Re: Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_

2014-04-23 Thread Brian
On Wed 23 Apr 2014 at 01:30:07 -0400, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:

 I took up on your suggestions and below is the feedback:
 
 After typing the command 'sudo apt-cdrom -d /media/usb0 ident' the response 
 was:
 
 Using CD-ROM mount point /media/usb0/
 Mounting CD-ROM
 Identifying{a long string of alphanumeric characters}
 Stored label: Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 
 20140208-13:47
 Unmounting CD-ROM...

The correct mount point is identified and the Stored label means
sources.list should be edited to have

  deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 
20140208-13:47]/ wheezy main

put in it. Note that you have to add [, ]/, the distibution name and the 
suites.

 Following the above response, I issued another command 'sudo apt-cdrom
 --no-auto-detect -d /media/usb0 add' and the reply from the OS was as
 shown below:
 
 Using CD-ROM mount point /media/usb0/
 Unmounting CD-ROM
 Waiting for disc..
 Please insert a Disc in the drive and press enter
 
 The USB flash/thumb drive had all the while been in the USB port. All I did 
 was to press 'Enter' and below was the response:
 
 Mounting CD-ROM
 Identifying...{a long string of alphanumeric characters}
 Scanning disc for index files..
 Found 2 package indexes, 0 source indexes, 2 translation indexes and 0 
 signatures
 This disc is called Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 DVD 
 Binary-1 20140208-13:47
 Reading Package Indexes.Done
 Writing new source list
 Source list entries for this disc are: deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 
 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20140208-13:47]/ wheezy contrib main
 Unmounting CD-ROM
 Repeat this process for the rest of the CDs in your set

The modified command worked. Your sources.list should now contain the
entry:

  deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 
20140208-13:47]/ wheezy contrib main
 
 Seeing that the OS was able to detect that my USB stick contains the Debian 
 installer, I re-issued the command 'sudo apt-cdrom -d /media/usb0 add' and 
 pressed 'Enter'. The error message is the same, viz.:
 
 Using CD-ROM mount point /media/cdrom/
 Identifying...{a long string of alphanumeric characters}
 Scanning disc for index files...
 Found 0 package indexes, 0 source indexes, 0 translation indexes and 0 
 signatures
 W: Failed to mount '/dev/sr0' to '/media/cdrom/'
 E: Unable to locate any package files, perhaps this is not a Debian disc or 
 the wrong architecture
 
 What shall I do now, please? Is this a bug in the 'apt' package?

There is nothing for you to do; you have achieved your objective and
updated your sources.list. The bug appears to be fixed in Jessie.


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Re: Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_

2014-04-23 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
 There is nothing for you to do; you have achieved your objective and updated 
 your sources.list. The bug appears to be fixed in Jessie.

OMG, far from it, I have yet to achieve my objective, which is to install 
essential packages such as xorg, gnome-core or gnome-full off the USB 
flash/thumb drive without the need to access the internet. Certainly, I did 
learn something useful from you, such as apt-cdrom, dmesg and the mount point 
of a USB stick.

I have some questions:

1. When will the next Debian version (codename: Jessie) be released?

2. I read on the internet that there is long-term support (LTS) being planned 
for Wheezy. If such is the case, do you not agree that the bug mentioned in my 
original post should be fixed in Wheezy too? Moreover between now and the 
official release date of Jessie is a period of more than 10 months. I 
understand that Debian 7.5 is being planned for release in early May. I would 
strongly recommend that Debian developers issue a fix for the bug before then.

3. Who shall I contact to ask Debian developers/maintainers to issue a fix for 
the bug for Wheezy? Are you one of them? Could you escalate the issue on my 
behalf?

I happened to google for a solution to the bug today and it appears that on 
AskUbuntu's forum, many users also encounter the same bug. So it isn't just 
Debian users; Ubuntu users are affected too.

I really appreciate your help all this while.

P.S.: If you are one of the developers/maintainers, it would be good if you 
could help us (users) out.




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Re: Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_

2014-04-23 Thread Richard Owlett

Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:

There is nothing for you to do; you have achieved your objective and updated 
your sources.list. The bug appears to be fixed in Jessie.


OMG, far from it, I have yet to achieve my objective, which is to install 
essential packages such as xorg, gnome-core or gnome-full off the USB 
flash/thumb drive without the need to access the internet. Certainly, I did 
learn something useful from you, such as apt-cdrom, dmesg and the mount point 
of a USB stick.
[*SNIP*]


I'm working towards a similar goal. My restrictions include:
  1. not only minimal internet , but absolutely *NO* networking 
at all
  2. not only installing a few specified packages, but allow 
installing

 *any* package from the distro
  3. automating the install with an appropriate preseed.cfg

My project allows using a 64 GB flash drive.

See my thread titled Copying complete SET of installation DVDs 
to a USB stick beginning at 
https://lists.debian.org/53494721.3090...@cloud85.net for what 
I've accomplished so far and hints as to how some problems will 
be addressed.


HTH



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Re: Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_

2014-04-23 Thread Brian
On Wed 23 Apr 2014 at 09:46:52 -0400, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:

 P.S.: If you are one of the developers/maintainers, it would be good if you 
 could help us (users) out.

I am not a developer or a maintainer; the only thing I am intent on is
to maintain my sanity.

You will have to submit any bug report yourself. Whether it is ever
fixed in Wheezy is doubtful. But you now have two ways to make progress
with what you want to do. '--no-auto-detect' appears to be the key but
when the manual says

   It is necessary to use apt-cdrom to add CDs to the APT system; it
   cannot be done by hand.

we can question the cannot be done by hand assertion.


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Re: Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_

2014-04-23 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
 - Original Message -
 From: Richard Owlett
 Sent: 04/24/14 12:49 AM
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 
 7.4.0 _Wheezy_

 I'm working towards a similar goal. My restrictions include: 1. not only 
 minimal internet , but absolutely *NO* networking at all 2. not only 
 installing a few specified packages, but allow installing *any* package from 
 the distro 3. automating the install with an appropriate preseed.cfg

Well, I hate to be the harbinger of bad news. It appears there is a bug in 
apt-cdrom that prevents one from installing packages -post-installation- from 
the USB stick without the need to access the internet. According to people in 
the know, the bug is said to have been fixed in Debian Jessie. And if the post 
referenced by 
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Debian-8-0-quot-Jessie-quot-Should-Arrive-by-the-End-of-2015-391154.shtml
 is any indication, the official release date of Debian Jessie is end 2015 (a 
wait of about 20 months.) If you know the APT package's developers, you could 
petition them to issue a bug fix before the release of Debian 7.5, which is 
planned for early May 2014.

 See my thread titled Copying complete SET of installation DVDs to a USB 
 stick beginning at https://lists.debian.org/53494721.3090...@cloud85.net for 
 what I've accomplished so far and hints as to how some problems will be 
 addressed.

With reference to your post at 
https://lists.debian.org/53494721.3090...@cloud85.net, if you still encounter 
problems and I think they aren't OS-specific, may I suggest that you make a 
post at http://unix.stackexchange.com/  There are many experts in that forum.

Regards.

Theodore


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Re: Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_

2014-04-23 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
 - Original Message -
 From: Brian
 Sent: 04/24/14 03:03 AM
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 
 7.4.0 _Wheezy_
 
 I am not a developer or a maintainer; the only thing I am intent on is to 
 maintain my sanity.

Thanks for the joke. It lightens my day ;)

 You will have to submit any bug report yourself.

Thanks, I will file a bug report. If Richard Owlett reads this post, I hope he 
will do too.

 Whether it is ever fixed in Wheezy is doubtful.

Oh dear, oh dear! My and Richard's hope is dashed :(


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Re: Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_

2014-04-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 23 apr 14, 09:46:52, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:
 
 1. When will the next Debian version (codename: Jessie) be released?
 
Jessie will be frozen on 5th of November. If everything goes well the 
release could happen early 2015.

 2. I read on the internet that there is long-term support (LTS) being 
 planned for Wheezy. 

For squeeze, not wheezy. The decision for wheeze will be taken based on 
how good or bad it worked out with squeeze.

 3. Who shall I contact to ask Debian developers/maintainers to issue a 
 fix for the bug for Wheezy? 

This should be done by or at least in coordination with the package 
maintainer. I didn't follow the thread very closely, could you please 
tell me which bug (number) is this?

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_

2014-04-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 23 apr 14, 15:14:10, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:
 
 And if the post referenced by 
 http://news.softpedia.com/news/Debian-8-0-quot-Jessie-quot-Should-Arrive-by-the-End-of-2015-391154.shtml
  
 is any indication, the official release date of Debian Jessie is end 
 2015 (a wait of about 20 months.) 

by the end of 2015. Small but significant difference.

Kind regards,
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Re: Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_

2014-04-23 Thread Richard Owlett

Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:

- Original Message -
From: Richard Owlett
Sent: 04/24/14 12:49 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 
7.4.0 _Wheezy_



I'm working towards a similar goal. My restrictions include: 1. not only 
minimal internet , but absolutely *NO* networking at all 2. not only installing 
a few specified packages, but allow installing *any* package from the distro 3. 
automating the install with an appropriate preseed.cfg


Well, I hate to be the harbinger of bad news. It appears there is a bug in 
apt-cdrom that prevents one from installing packages -post-installation- from 
the USB stick without the need to access the internet.[SNIP]


I don't use apt-cdrom. I loop mount images of the DVDs. It may or 
may not meet your total needs. I hope to have a detailed write up 
in about a week. I'm using Squeeze (6.0.5) and Wheezy (7.1) as 
test beds. Not having fast internet I'm restricted to using only 
DVD sets available for purchase.




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Re: Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_

2014-04-23 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
 I don't use apt-cdrom. I loop mount images of the DVDs. It may or may not 
 meet your total needs. I hope to have a detailed write up in about a week. 
 I'm using Squeeze (6.0.5) and Wheezy (7.1) as test beds.

Best of luck on your endeavor and if you need someone to debug, you can always 
find experts on Unix and Linux by clicking the following link: 
http://unix.stackexchange.com/

Please keep me informed of when you finish your project.


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Re: Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_

2014-04-22 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
Hello Brian

You are right.

According to /etc/fstab, /dev/sdb1 has a mount point /media/usb0

However I had to mount it first: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0
and then followed by the command: sudo apt-cdrom -d /media/usb0 add

And the error message is always the same, viz:

Using CD-ROM mount point /media/cdrom/
Identifying...{a long string of alphanumeric characters}
Scanning disc for index files...
Found 0 package indexes, 0 source indexes, 0 translation indexes and 0 
signatures
W: Failed to mount '/dev/sr0' to '/media/cdrom/'
E: Unable to locate any package files, perhaps this is not a Debian disc or the 
wrong architecture


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Re: Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_

2014-04-22 Thread Brian
On Tue 22 Apr 2014 at 15:46:45 -0400, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:

 According to /etc/fstab, /dev/sdb1 has a mount point /media/usb0
 
 However I had to mount it first: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0

There should be no need to mount it first. Even if you do the manual
says the CD-ROM is unmounted before promting for a disc to be inserted.
It shouldn't do any harm, though.

 and then followed by the command: sudo apt-cdrom -d /media/usb0 add
 
 And the error message is always the same, viz:
 
 Using CD-ROM mount point /media/cdrom/

It should say 'Using CD-ROM mount point /media/usb0', then tell you it
is unmounting the CD-ROM and ask for a disc to be inserted.

 Identifying...{a long string of alphanumeric characters}
 Scanning disc for index files...

That's ok.

 Found 0 package indexes, 0 source indexes, 0 translation indexes and 0 
 signatures
 W: Failed to mount '/dev/sr0' to '/media/cdrom/'

/dev/sr0 is where one of those round, shiny discs would be located. This
is not ok.

 E: Unable to locate any package files, perhaps this is not a Debian disc or 
 the wrong architecture

I won't insult you by asking whether it is a Debian disc for the right
architecture. (It is, isn't it :) )

Do 'sudo apt-cdrom -d /media/usb0 ident'. Is the correct mount point
used? Is there a value for 'Stored label'? This value is what you have
to put in the 'deb cdrom' line in sources.list if the following command
doesn't work.

   sudo apt-cdrom --no-auto-detect -d /media/usb0 add

'--no-auto-detect' is undocumented in Wheezy.


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Re: Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_

2014-04-22 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
 It should say 'Using CD-ROM mount point /media/usb0', then tell you it
 is unmounting the CD-ROM and ask for a disc to be inserted.

No. I confirm that the line indeed states 'Using CD-ROM mount point 
/media/cdrom' and not './media/usb0' {I reinstalled Debian just to make 
sure that what I wrote in the original post was correct.)

 /dev/sr0 is where one of those round, shiny discs would be located. This
 is not ok.

I agree. It's weird. I have not, at any point in time, used a DVD to install 
Debian.

 I won't insult you by asking whether it is a Debian disc for the right
 architecture. (It is, isn't it :) )

As I stated in my original post, the only medium used to install Debian is a 
USB 2.0 flash/thumb drive. No DVD was used during the installation.

 Do 'sudo apt-cdrom -d /media/usb0 ident'. Is the correct mount point
 used? Is there a value for 'Stored label'? This value is what you have
 to put in the 'deb cdrom' line in sources.list if the following command
 doesn't work.
 
  sudo apt-cdrom --no-auto-detect -d /media/usb0 add
 
 '--no-auto-detect' is undocumented in Wheezy.

I took up on your suggestions and below is the feedback:

After typing the command 'sudo apt-cdrom -d /media/usb0 ident' the response was:

Using CD-ROM mount point /media/usb0/
Mounting CD-ROM
Identifying{a long string of alphanumeric characters}
Stored label: Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 
20140208-13:47
Unmounting CD-ROM...

Following the above response, I issued another command 'sudo apt-cdrom 
--no-auto-detect -d /media/usb0 add' and the reply from the OS was as shown 
below:

Using CD-ROM mount point /media/usb0/
Unmounting CD-ROM
Waiting for disc..
Please insert a Disc in the drive and press enter

The USB flash/thumb drive had all the while been in the USB port. All I did was 
to press 'Enter' and below was the response:

Mounting CD-ROM
Identifying...{a long string of alphanumeric characters}
Scanning disc for index files..
Found 2 package indexes, 0 source indexes, 2 translation indexes and 0 
signatures
This disc is called Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 DVD 
Binary-1 20140208-13:47
Reading Package Indexes.Done
Writing new source list
Source list entries for this disc are: deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 
_Wheezy_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20140208-13:47]/ wheezy contrib main
Unmounting CD-ROM
Repeat this process for the rest of the CDs in your set

Seeing that the OS was able to detect that my USB stick contains the Debian 
installer, I re-issued the command 'sudo apt-cdrom -d /media/usb0 add' and 
pressed 'Enter'. The error message is the same, viz.:

Using CD-ROM mount point /media/cdrom/
Identifying...{a long string of alphanumeric characters}
Scanning disc for index files...
Found 0 package indexes, 0 source indexes, 0 translation indexes and 0 
signatures
W: Failed to mount '/dev/sr0' to '/media/cdrom/'
E: Unable to locate any package files, perhaps this is not a Debian disc or the 
wrong architecture

What shall I do now, please? Is this a bug in the 'apt' package?



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Re: Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_

2014-04-21 Thread Brian
On Sun 20 Apr 2014 at 17:40:53 -0400, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:

 I have tried the following steps on the advice of some of my colleagues:
 
 1. remove/delete all the entries in /etc/apt/sources.list and reboot the 
 computer

Rebooting isn't necessary.

 2. dmesg shows that the USB thumb drive is mounted on /dev/sdb1

No. dmesg shows a device sdb was detected.

 3. sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0

An bad move! Please read about the -d option in 'man apt-cdrom' and alter
your /etc/fstab.

 4. sudo apt-cdrom -m -d /media/usb0 add

If /dev/sdb1 has a mount point /media/usb0 in fstab:

 sudo apt-cdrom -d /media/usb0 add


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Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_

2014-04-20 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
I installed Debian 7 using a USB flash drive burned from the first DVD ISO of 
the Debian installation CD/DVD.

I did a very minimal install without Debian desktop environment, Print server 
and Standard system utilities.

After installation and a reboot, I was presented with a console with the words 
Debian GNU/Linux 7 hostname tty1. I supplied the login username and password.

After I typed the command sudo apt-get install xorg, an error message popped up 
stating:

Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_ 
- Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20140208-13:47' in the drive and press Enter

I inserted the same USB flash drive into the same slot and after waiting for a 
few seconds, I pressed Enter.

The same error message popped up.

I have tried the following steps on the advice of some of my colleagues:

1. remove/delete all the entries in /etc/apt/sources.list and reboot the 
computer
2. dmesg shows that the USB thumb drive is mounted on /dev/sdb1
3. sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0
4. sudo apt-cdrom -m -d /media/usb0 add

After doing the above, the following error message appears:

[quote]

Using CD-ROM mount point /media/cdrom/
Identifying...{a long string of alphanumeric characters}
Scanning disc for index files...
Found 0 package indexes, 0 source indexes, 0 translation indexes and 0 
signatures
W: Failed to mount '/dev/sr0' to '/media/cdrom/'
E: Unable to locate any package files, perhaps this is not a Debian disc or the 
wrong architecture

[end quote]

I prefer to install Xorg (60MB) and gnome-core (400MB) from the DVD disc. The 
NGO that I am working with is in a developing country with a very basic 
internet access infrastructure. Internet access is very patchy and the average 
download speed is less than 2 Mbps.

A solution will be much appreciated.

Regards.

Theodore


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Re: Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_

2014-04-20 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 05:40:53PM -0400, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:
 I installed Debian 7 using a USB flash drive burned from the first DVD ISO 
 of the Debian installation CD/DVD.
 
 I did a very minimal install without Debian desktop environment, Print server 
 and Standard system utilities.
 
 After installation and a reboot, I was presented with a console with the 
 words Debian GNU/Linux 7 hostname tty1. I supplied the login username and 
 password.
 
 After I typed the command sudo apt-get install xorg, an error message popped 
 up stating:
 
 Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 
 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20140208-13:47' in the drive and press 
 Enter
 
 I inserted the same USB flash drive into the same slot and after waiting for 
 a few seconds, I pressed Enter.
 
 The same error message popped up.
 
 I have tried the following steps on the advice of some of my colleagues:
 
 1. remove/delete all the entries in /etc/apt/sources.list and reboot the 
 computer
 2. dmesg shows that the USB thumb drive is mounted on /dev/sdb1
 3. sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0
 4. sudo apt-cdrom -m -d /media/usb0 add
 
 After doing the above, the following error message appears:
 
 [quote]
 
 Using CD-ROM mount point /media/cdrom/
 Identifying...{a long string of alphanumeric characters}
 Scanning disc for index files...
 Found 0 package indexes, 0 source indexes, 0 translation indexes and 0 
 signatures
 W: Failed to mount '/dev/sr0' to '/media/cdrom/'
 E: Unable to locate any package files, perhaps this is not a Debian disc or 
 the wrong architecture
 
 [end quote]
 
 I prefer to install Xorg (60MB) and gnome-core (400MB) from the DVD disc. The 
 NGO that I am working with is in a developing country with a very basic 
 internet access infrastructure. Internet access is very patchy and the 
 average download speed is less than 2 Mbps.
 
 A solution will be much appreciated.
 
 Regards.
 
 Theodore
 
 
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It's just possible that the first line in your /etc/apt/sources.list has an 
entry which references the CD itself
and that, underneath that are the entries which would work if you're on a 
network.

Edit the file to remove the first line / comment it out with an # and try again.

I think this is a minor bug in the installer but a new release of Debian CDs is 
due shortly.

All the very best,

AndyC


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