Re: Loking for TV tuner / media player help

[Steve Litt]

On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 13:07:57 -0400 (EDT)
Rob Owens  wrote:

> - Original Message -
> > From: "Timothy Danielson" 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I am looking to finish installing a card= Happauge 2250 dual tuner
> > into Debian. I would also like to have a comparable Media center
> > software that would allow recording as I did in win media center as
> > wekk as watch live tv (since it is a dual tuner type and will let
> > me do that)
> > 
> I've been using MythTV for many years and am happy with it.  I use
> packages from the 3rd party deb-multimedia.org repository.
> 
> MythTV will let you watch live tv, schedule/record shows, and will
> even skip the commercials automatically if you set it up to do so.

My wife's been urging me to put in a way to record shows for later
playback, and I'm thinking MythTV might be the best way. I understand
it's a little difficult to get working, and I want to use a fanless
system so the sound isn't drowned out by the fan.

Thanks,

SteveT

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Re: Loking for TV tuner / media player help

[Bzzzz]

On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 20:09:00 -0700
Timothy Danielson  wrote:

> into Debian. I would also like to have a comparable Media center
> software that would allow recording as I did in win media center as
> wekk as watch live tv (since it is a dual tuner type and will let me
> do that)

Is it for a dedicated pc or just to add this function to a regular pc?


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Re: Loking for TV tuner / media player help

[Snow Leopard]

Hi,

also "Linux VDR" must be include in this list.

Home page http://www.tvdr.de/

Andy

On 8/26/2014 10:07 AM, Rob Owens wrote:

- Original Message -

From: "Timothy Danielson" 

Hi,

I am looking to finish installing a card= Happauge 2250 dual tuner into
Debian. I would also like to have a comparable Media center software that
would allow recording as I did in win media center as wekk as watch live tv
(since it is a dual tuner type and will let me do that)


I've been using MythTV for many years and am happy with it.  I use packages 
from the 3rd party deb-multimedia.org repository.

MythTV will let you watch live tv, schedule/record shows, and will even skip 
the commercials automatically if you set it up to do so.

-Rob





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Re: Loking for TV tuner / media player help

[Rob Owens]

- Original Message -
> From: "Timothy Danielson" 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am looking to finish installing a card= Happauge 2250 dual tuner into
> Debian. I would also like to have a comparable Media center software that
> would allow recording as I did in win media center as wekk as watch live tv
> (since it is a dual tuner type and will let me do that)
> 
I've been using MythTV for many years and am happy with it.  I use packages 
from the 3rd party deb-multimedia.org repository.

MythTV will let you watch live tv, schedule/record shows, and will even skip 
the commercials automatically if you set it up to do so.

-Rob


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Re: Loking for TV tuner / media player help

[Chris Bannister]

On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 08:09:00PM -0700, Timothy Danielson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am looking to finish installing a card= Happauge 2250 dual tuner
> into Debian. I would also like to have a comparable Media center
> software that would allow recording as I did in win media center as
> wekk as watch live tv (since it is a dual tuner type and will let me
> do that)
> 
> Thanks in advance,

I haven't heard of any software called "wekk" but on linux you can use
mythtv. No doubt there are heaps of others.

A google with linux+media+centre should bring up others.

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Loking for TV tuner / media player help

[Timothy Danielson]

Hi,

I am looking to finish installing a card= Happauge 2250 dual tuner into Debian. 
I would also like to have a comparable Media center software that would allow 
recording as I did in win media center as wekk as watch live tv (since it is a 
dual tuner type and will let me do that)

Thanks in advance,



Timothy Danielson

Re: VLC media player 2.1.2 Rincewind (revision 2.1.2-0-ga4c4876)

[Charles Kroeger]

On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 21:00:01 +0100
Brian  wrote:

> A bug report where? Not to Debian, we hope.

No just write those guys in France.

> It's up to you. Please see the first sentence in this post. A
> 'downgrade' might result in an upgrade to something which works better
> for you.

I'll probably do that, OK thanks for the input.

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Re: VLC media player 2.1.2 Rincewind (revision 2.1.2-0-ga4c4876)

[Brad Rogers]

On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 12:47:35 -0500
Charles Kroeger  wrote:

Hello Charles,

>deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org testing main non-free
>deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid  main non-free
>deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org experimental main

Why testing & sid?  Experimental is pretty useless, having only the
d-m.o keyring in it.

>VLC media player 2.1.2 Rincewind (revision 2.1.2-0-ga4c4876)
>(no seg fault or anything reported except the version you see there)

That's the sid version, which I don't use, so can't offer any real
advice.  Suffice to say, 2.1.1 works fine here.

>I thought I might hold off on the bug report pending an inquiry here to
>see if others have had a similar experience.

As Brian says, a waste of time reporting it on the Debian bugtracker;
At best it'll be closed without comment.

>Do the VLC maintainers like the deb-mutimedia.org sources seem like I
>was reading once where they didn't like them at all.

Debian VLC maintainers != DMO VLC maintainers.

>Is it prudent to remove the deb-multimedia.org sources from my
>sources.list and downgrade VLC to a working condition?

Entirely your choice.  Personally, I use DMO packages without problems.

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Re: VLC media player 2.1.2 Rincewind (revision 2.1.2-0-ga4c4876)

[Brian]

On Wed 18 Dec 2013 at 12:47:35 -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote:

> apropos to nothing but after reinserting these locations in my sources.list:
> 
> deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org testing main non-free
> deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid  main non-free
> deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org experimental main
> 
> and getting an upgrade to VLC
> 
> the first time to use VLC, I get no appearance of VLC but this:
> 
> 
> charles@mundo:~$ vlc
> VLC media player 2.1.2 Rincewind (revision 2.1.2-0-ga4c4876)

The vlc interface comes up on stable and unstable here.

> (no seg fault or anything reported except the version you see there)
> 
> I thought I might hold off on the bug report pending an inquiry here to see if
> others have had a similar experience.

A bug report where? Not to Debian, we hope.

> Do the VLC maintainers like the deb-mutimedia.org sources seem like I was 
> reading
> once where they didn't like them at all.

Pass.

> Is it prudent to remove the deb-multimedia.org sources from my sources.list 
> and
> downgrade VLC to a working condition?

It's up to you. Please see the first sentence in this post. A
'downgrade' might result in an upgrade to something which works better
for you.


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VLC media player 2.1.2 Rincewind (revision 2.1.2-0-ga4c4876)

[Charles Kroeger]

apropos to nothing but after reinserting these locations in my sources.list:

deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org testing main non-free
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid  main non-free
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org experimental main

and getting an upgrade to VLC

the first time to use VLC, I get no appearance of VLC but this:


charles@mundo:~$ vlc
VLC media player 2.1.2 Rincewind (revision 2.1.2-0-ga4c4876)

(no seg fault or anything reported except the version you see there)

I thought I might hold off on the bug report pending an inquiry here to see if
others have had a similar experience.

Do the VLC maintainers like the deb-mutimedia.org sources seem like I was 
reading
once where they didn't like them at all.

Is it prudent to remove the deb-multimedia.org sources from my sources.list and
downgrade VLC to a working condition?

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Re: what's the best media player ?

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 23:44:16 +0800, lina wrote:

> which media player is your favoriate and love to recommend.

I'm not a fanatic movie/music watcher/listener so I use the system's 
default, that is Totem, which in the end covers all of my non-excentric 
needs :-)

> I have a problem in using movie player, it's kinda of funny when open
> some song with it, all the process just being killed and came to login
> interface. (more like the new-started laptop without truely re-start).

Should I have to choose a different media player I would look into 
VideoLAN or MPlayer. I have used both in the past and were very good.

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Re: what's the best media player ?

[steef]

lina schreef:

Hi,

which media player is your favoriate and love to recommend.

I have a problem in using movie player, it's kinda of funny when open
some song with it, all the process just being killed and came to login
interface. (more like the new-started laptop without truely re-start).

Thanks with best regards,




hi lina


svn-(g)mplayer for which you need subversion and the possibility to compile 
and install the program yourself. go to 'their' site which is working again. 
to use with the alsa-plugin i compile always the alsa-module in /usr/src first 
and the alsa-libs in my home directory. see the ALSA website.


regards,

steef


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Re: what's the best media player ?

[lina]

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Paul Saunders  wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 18:35:33 +0800
> lina  wrote:
>
>> sorry, supposed to send to list.
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: lina 
>> Date: Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 6:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: what's the best media player ?
>> To: Walter Hurry 
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Walter Hurry
>>  wrote:
>> > On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 23:44:16 +0800, lina wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> which media player is your favoriate and love to recommend.
>> >>
>> >> I have a problem in using movie player, it's kinda of funny when
>> >> open some song with it, all the process just being killed and came
>> >> to login interface. (more like the new-started laptop without
>> >> truely re-start).
>> >>
>> >> Thanks with best regards,
>> >
>> > mplayer, gxine, gnome-mplayer, vlc, totem. They all work very well
>> > indeed with pretty much anything you throw at them, provided you
>> > have the codecs installed. Take your pick.
>>
>> my laptop is undesirable weird.
>>
>> I installed the mplayer, when I
>> use $ mplayer some.mp4
>>
>> it's just crashed, jump to login interface.
>> the same as the vlc media player.
>> $ vlc some.mp4
>>
>>
>> # aptitude install codecs
>> Couldn't find package "codecs".  However, the following
>> packages contain "codecs" in their name:
>>  python2.7-cjkcodecs libk3b6-extracodecs python3.1-cjkcodecs
>>  python3.2-cjkcodecs python2.6-cjkcodecs
>>
>> I don't know which one I should choose.
>>
>> and I even don't know how to examine,
>>
>> why it's just jump to login, and everything becomes so new.
>
> It sounds like your X server is crashing, possibly when the media
> player accesses the XVIDEO extension. To rule out the player, try:
>
> $ mplayer -vo x11 filename.mp4
>
> or
>
> $ mplayer -vo null filename.mp4

cool... the -vo x11 and -vo null both works.

>
> If the file plays correctly (the second command will give you sound,
> but no video), then you have a broken X server/driver. Check your
> Xorg and Xsession logs.

I attached the Xorg.0.log.old

[ 34895.081] 0: /usr/bin/X (xorg_backtrace+0x26) [0x7f3945e339a6]
[ 34895.081] 1: /usr/bin/X (0x7f3945caf000+0x188609) [0x7f3945e37609]
[ 34895.081] 2: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
(0x7f3944fd8000+0xf020) [0x7f3944fe7020]
[ 34895.081] 3: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so
(xs111LookupPrivate+0x22) [0x7f39418dac72]
[ 34895.081] 4: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so
(xclLookupPrivate+0xd) [0x7f39412ad75d]
[ 34895.081] 5: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/amdxmm.so (X740XvPutImage+0x12e)
[0x7f393e61d8de]
[ 34895.081] 6: /usr/bin/X (0x7f3945caf000+0xa69ce) [0x7f3945d559ce]
[ 34895.081] 7: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so
(0x7f3942ddb000+0x12e02) [0x7f3942dede02]
[ 34895.081] 8: /usr/bin/X (0x7f3945caf000+0x51fc9) [0x7f3945d00fc9]
[ 34895.081] 9: /usr/bin/X (0x7f3945caf000+0x4122a) [0x7f3945cf022a]
[ 34895.081] 10: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
(__libc_start_main+0xfd) [0x7f3943d03ead]
[ 34895.081] 11: /usr/bin/X (0x7f3945caf000+0x4151d) [0x7f3945cf051d]
[ 34895.081] Segmentation fault at address 0x20
[ 34895.081]
Fatal server error:
[ 34895.081] Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting
[ 34895.081]
[ 34895.081]
Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
 at http://wiki.x.org
 for help.
[ 34895.081] Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
for additional information.
[ 34895.081]
[ 34895.116] (II) Power Button: Close
[ 34895.116] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[ 34895.116] (II) Unloading evdev
[ 34895.116] (II) Video Bus: Close
[ 34895.117] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[ 34895.117] (II) Unloading evdev
[ 34895.117] (II) Power Button: Close
[ 34895.117] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[ 34895.117] (II) Unloading evdev
[ 34895.117] (II) Sleep Button: Close
[ 34895.118] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[ 34895.118] (II) Unloading evdev
[ 34895.120] (II) Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad: Close
[ 34895.120] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[ 34895.120] (II) Unloading evdev
[ 34895.141] (II) UnloadModule: "synaptics"
[ 34895.141] (II) Unloading synaptics
[ 34895.142] (II) Logitech Logitech USB Optical Mouse: Close
[ 34895.142] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[ 34895.142] (II) Unloading evdev
[ 34895.144] (II) FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in): Close
[ 34895.144] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[ 34895.144] (II) Unloading evdev
[ 34895.145] (II) AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT 

Re: what's the best media player ?

[Paul Saunders]

On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 18:35:33 +0800
lina  wrote:

> sorry, supposed to send to list.
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: lina 
> Date: Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 6:34 PM
> Subject: Re: what's the best media player ?
> To: Walter Hurry 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Walter Hurry
>  wrote:
> > On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 23:44:16 +0800, lina wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> which media player is your favoriate and love to recommend.
> >>
> >> I have a problem in using movie player, it's kinda of funny when
> >> open some song with it, all the process just being killed and came
> >> to login interface. (more like the new-started laptop without
> >> truely re-start).
> >>
> >> Thanks with best regards,
> >
> > mplayer, gxine, gnome-mplayer, vlc, totem. They all work very well
> > indeed with pretty much anything you throw at them, provided you
> > have the codecs installed. Take your pick.
> 
> my laptop is undesirable weird.
> 
> I installed the mplayer, when I
> use $ mplayer some.mp4
> 
> it's just crashed, jump to login interface.
> the same as the vlc media player.
> $ vlc some.mp4
> 
> 
> # aptitude install codecs
> Couldn't find package "codecs".  However, the following
> packages contain "codecs" in their name:
>  python2.7-cjkcodecs libk3b6-extracodecs python3.1-cjkcodecs
>  python3.2-cjkcodecs python2.6-cjkcodecs
> 
> I don't know which one I should choose.
> 
> and I even don't know how to examine,
> 
> why it's just jump to login, and everything becomes so new.

It sounds like your X server is crashing, possibly when the media
player accesses the XVIDEO extension. To rule out the player, try:

$ mplayer -vo x11 filename.mp4

or

$ mplayer -vo null filename.mp4

If the file plays correctly (the second command will give you sound,
but no video), then you have a broken X server/driver. Check your
Xorg and Xsession logs.



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Re: what's the best media player ?

[lina]

On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Tutku Dalmaz  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As a default player i use gnome-mplayer.I recommend that you to use it.

I just installed the gnome-mplayer too

when I used gnome-mplayer filename.mp4

it's just crashed again,
>
> Best Regards.
>
> On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 5:44 PM, lina  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> which media player is your favoriate and love to recommend.
>>
>> I have a problem in using movie player, it's kinda of funny when open
>> some song with it, all the process just being killed and came to login
>> interface. (more like the new-started laptop without truely re-start).
>>
>> Thanks with best regards,
>>
>>
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Re: what's the best media player ?

[lina]

sorry, supposed to send to list.

-- Forwarded message --
From: lina 
Date: Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: what's the best media player ?
To: Walter Hurry 


On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Walter Hurry  wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 23:44:16 +0800, lina wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> which media player is your favoriate and love to recommend.
>>
>> I have a problem in using movie player, it's kinda of funny when open
>> some song with it, all the process just being killed and came to login
>> interface. (more like the new-started laptop without truely re-start).
>>
>> Thanks with best regards,
>
> mplayer, gxine, gnome-mplayer, vlc, totem. They all work very well indeed
> with pretty much anything you throw at them, provided you have the codecs
> installed. Take your pick.

my laptop is undesirable weird.

I installed the mplayer, when I
use $ mplayer some.mp4

it's just crashed, jump to login interface.
the same as the vlc media player.
$ vlc some.mp4


# aptitude install codecs
Couldn't find package "codecs".  However, the following
packages contain "codecs" in their name:
 python2.7-cjkcodecs libk3b6-extracodecs python3.1-cjkcodecs
 python3.2-cjkcodecs python2.6-cjkcodecs

I don't know which one I should choose.

and I even don't know how to examine,

why it's just jump to login, and everything becomes so new.
>
>
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Re: what's the best media player ?

[Walter Hurry]

On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 23:44:16 +0800, lina wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> which media player is your favoriate and love to recommend.
> 
> I have a problem in using movie player, it's kinda of funny when open
> some song with it, all the process just being killed and came to login
> interface. (more like the new-started laptop without truely re-start).
> 
> Thanks with best regards,

mplayer, gxine, gnome-mplayer, vlc, totem. They all work very well indeed 
with pretty much anything you throw at them, provided you have the codecs 
installed. Take your pick.



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Re: what's the best media player ?

[darkestkhan]

2011/12/18 lina :
> Hi,
>
> which media player is your favorite and love to recommend.
>
> I have a problem in using movie player, it's kinda of funny when open
> some song with it, all the process just being killed and came to login
> interface. (more like the new-started laptop without truly re-start).
>
> Thanks with best regards,
>

VLC - it just rocks, and plays almost anything (streaming included)

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Re: what's the best media player ?

[Andrei Popescu]

On Du, 18 dec 11, 23:44:16, lina wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> which media player is your favoriate and love to recommend.
> 
> I have a problem in using movie player, it's kinda of funny when open
> some song with it, all the process just being killed and came to login
> interface. (more like the new-started laptop without truely re-start).

For watching TV shows I use xbmc because it keeps track of which 
episodes I have already watched.

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Re: what's the best media player ?

[Celejar]

On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 23:44:16 +0800
lina  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> which media player is your favoriate and love to recommend.

vlc or mplayer. vlc has its own native gui, and in my experience, has
proven much more effective for streaming audio, invariably working even
on urls that mplayer fails on.

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Re: what's the best media player ?

[Andrei Popescu]

On Du, 18 dec 11, 10:12:12, Javier Vasquez wrote:
> 
> Well, I don't know what moview player is, perhaps "mplayer" is what
> has been referred?  BTW, "m" stands for media, if that is the case,
> not movie, :-)
> 
> Now gnome-mplayer is not a player by its own.  It's just a front end
> to mplayer.  And mplayer has different front ends, like KDE ones, GTK+
> ones, etc.
 
As far as I understand the recommended frontend is now smplayer.

> To watch video I've been using mplayer for quiet a while, and I've
> found no reason to change.  Even when VLC came on board, I just kept
> with mplayer with no regret.  Regarding a front end, gnome-player is
> what I use given it's the one installed for the gecko plugin, and
> besides it works well.
> 
> For audio I'm afraid I prefer MPD with mpc, ncmpc, and gmpc as client
> front ends, for most of the stuff (including listenning to streaming).
>  And for local audio listening I prefer just MOC.  Alsaplayer
> sometimes comes in handy as well...

+1, just prefer ario as a graphical frontend (not that I use it much, I 
have keyboard shortcuts tied to mpc actions) for mpd.

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Re: what's the best media player ?

[Javier Vasquez]

> ...
> As a default player i use gnome-mplayer.I recommend that you to use it.
>
> ...
>>
>> I have a problem in using movie player, it's kinda of funny when open
>> some song with it, all the process just being killed and came to login
>> interface. (more like the new-started laptop without truely re-start).
>>
>> ...

Well, I don't know what moview player is, perhaps "mplayer" is what
has been referred?  BTW, "m" stands for media, if that is the case,
not movie, :-)

Now gnome-mplayer is not a player by its own.  It's just a front end
to mplayer.  And mplayer has different front ends, like KDE ones, GTK+
ones, etc.

To watch video I've been using mplayer for quiet a while, and I've
found no reason to change.  Even when VLC came on board, I just kept
with mplayer with no regret.  Regarding a front end, gnome-player is
what I use given it's the one installed for the gecko plugin, and
besides it works well.

For audio I'm afraid I prefer MPD with mpc, ncmpc, and gmpc as client
front ends, for most of the stuff (including listenning to streaming).
 And for local audio listening I prefer just MOC.  Alsaplayer
sometimes comes in handy as well...

I'm not sure if one alone media player fits all purposes, :-)

At any rate, there's bunch of information about media players on the web...

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Re: what's the best media player ?

[Tutku Dalmaz]

Hi,

As a default player i use gnome-mplayer.I recommend that you to use it.

Best Regards.

On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 5:44 PM, lina  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> which media player is your favoriate and love to recommend.
>
> I have a problem in using movie player, it's kinda of funny when open
> some song with it, all the process just being killed and came to login
> interface. (more like the new-started laptop without truely re-start).
>
> Thanks with best regards,
>
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what's the best media player ?

[lina]

Hi,

which media player is your favoriate and love to recommend.

I have a problem in using movie player, it's kinda of funny when open
some song with it, all the process just being killed and came to login
interface. (more like the new-started laptop without truely re-start).

Thanks with best regards,


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RE: media player with NFS cacheing?

[owens]

>
>
>
> Original Message 
>From: ty...@yi.org
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: RE: media player with NFS cacheing?
>Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:09:27 -0700
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>  My daughter's computer is hooked up to our intranet via a wireless
>>card so we don't have to stretch cables through the hallway.
>>
>>  Unfortuantely, it's pretty radio-noisy here so we dont get very
>good
>>performance. I've tried several channels with little success. So
>when she
>>puts dora the explorer on, it will play fine for a minute, then
>freeze up,
>>then play fine for a minute... understandably, she finds this a bit
>>annoying.
>>
>>  Is there a media player out there that is NFS-aware, and can be
>>configured to cache an entire media file locally before playing? 
>She's
>>running KDE on her desktop but a gnome app would do as well so long
>as it's
>>easy enough for a three and a half year old to
>play/pause/fullscreen/quit
>>etc (she's using totem right now).
>>
>>  Thanks,
>>  Tyler
>>
There are wireless range extenders that regenerate the signal,
thereby improving the signal-to noise ratio
Larry
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Re: media player with NFS cacheing?

[Michael Pobega]

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 07:09:27PM -0700, Tyler MacDonald wrote:
>
> Is there a media player out there that is NFS-aware, and can be
> configured to cache an entire media file locally before playing?
> She's running KDE on her desktop but a gnome app would do as well so
> long as it's easy enough for a three and a half year old to
> play/pause/fullscreen/quit etc (she's using totem right now).
> 

Thanks to the help of someone on #debian a while ago, I now use 
`mplayer -cache 8192 /path/to/file.avi` to play movies over an NFS
stream. If the video quality/filesize is large you may have to increase
the size of the cache (it uses kB by default, append an M for MB.)

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Re: media player with NFS cacheing?

[Alex Samad]

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 07:09:27PM -0700, Tyler MacDonald wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>   My daughter's computer is hooked up to our intranet via a wireless
> card so we don't have to stretch cables through the hallway.
> 
>   Unfortuantely, it's pretty radio-noisy here so we dont get very good
> performance. I've tried several channels with little success. So when she
> puts dora the explorer on, it will play fine for a minute, then freeze up,
> then play fine for a minute... understandably, she finds this a bit
> annoying.
> 
>   Is there a media player out there that is NFS-aware, and can be
> configured to cache an entire media file locally before playing?  She's
> running KDE on her desktop but a gnome app would do as well so long as it's
> easy enough for a three and a half year old to play/pause/fullscreen/quit
> etc (she's using totem right now).

mplayer -cache 200M  

> 
>   Thanks,
>   Tyler
> 
> 

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media player with NFS cacheing?

[Tyler MacDonald]

Hi,

My daughter's computer is hooked up to our intranet via a wireless
card so we don't have to stretch cables through the hallway.

Unfortuantely, it's pretty radio-noisy here so we dont get very good
performance. I've tried several channels with little success. So when she
puts dora the explorer on, it will play fine for a minute, then freeze up,
then play fine for a minute... understandably, she finds this a bit
annoying.

    Is there a media player out there that is NFS-aware, and can be
configured to cache an entire media file locally before playing?  She's
running KDE on her desktop but a gnome app would do as well so long as it's
easy enough for a three and a half year old to play/pause/fullscreen/quit
etc (she's using totem right now).

Thanks,
Tyler


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Re: Totem Media Player plugin not working ...

[Sjoerd Hiemstra]

Op Sat, 1 Nov 2008 14:20:32 -0400, Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Sjoerd Hiemstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> >
> >totem http://stream11.finetra.co.uk/minack
> >
> > Works fine here, using Totem 2.22.2.
> 
> Thanks - that command prompted me to download some additional codecs,
> which I did, and it worked from the command line.  (It still doesn't
> work in the browser, but that's OK, now that I know how to find the
> stream address, for which I also thank you!)

You're welcome. If you prefer it to work in the browser, BTW, you can
still enter the stream address in the URL field.


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Re: Totem Media Player plugin not working ...

[Patrick Wiseman]

On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Sjoerd Hiemstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Patrick Wiseman:
> > http://www.minack.com/dayvisitors/stream.html
> >
> > My system is amd64, testing.  The media player plugin is
> > Totem<http://www.gnome.org/projects/totem/>
> > 2.22.2.  I get a failure to load Media Player at the above site.  Any
> > thoughts?
>
> The Totem media player plugin works pretty well these days.
> This appears to be one of those rare cases where it doesn't yet.
> In these cases it usually works to find the stream address and play it
> with the standalone Totem player.
>
> In Iceape: View > Page Info, tab 'Media'
> or in Iceweasel: Tools > Page Info, tab 'Media'.
>
> There you'll find the address of the stream:
>
>http://stream11.finetra.co.uk/minack
>
> which can be played with Totem:
>
>totem http://stream11.finetra.co.uk/minack
>
> Works fine here, using Totem 2.22.2.
>

Thanks - that command prompted me to download some additional codecs, which
I did, and it worked from the command line.  (It still doesn't work in the
browser, but that's OK, now that I know how to find the stream address, for
which I also thank you!)

Patrick

Re: Totem Media Player plugin not working ...

[Sjoerd Hiemstra]

Patrick Wiseman:
> http://www.minack.com/dayvisitors/stream.html
> 
> My system is amd64, testing.  The media player plugin is
> Totem<http://www.gnome.org/projects/totem/>
> 2.22.2.  I get a failure to load Media Player at the above site.  Any
> thoughts?

The Totem media player plugin works pretty well these days.
This appears to be one of those rare cases where it doesn't yet.
In these cases it usually works to find the stream address and play it
with the standalone Totem player.

In Iceape: View > Page Info, tab 'Media'
or in Iceweasel: Tools > Page Info, tab 'Media'.

There you'll find the address of the stream:

http://stream11.finetra.co.uk/minack

which can be played with Totem:

totem http://stream11.finetra.co.uk/minack

Works fine here, using Totem 2.22.2.


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Totem Media Player plugin not working ...

[Patrick Wiseman]

http://www.minack.com/dayvisitors/stream.html

My system is amd64, testing.  The media player plugin is
Totem<http://www.gnome.org/projects/totem/>
2.22.2.  I get a failure to load Media Player at the above site.  Any
thoughts?

Patrick

Re: [mythtv-users] AM2+ motherboard with support for ECC RAM for media player / server

[Roger Heflin]

Bob wrote:

Roger Heflin wrote:

Bob wrote:
  

Roger Heflin wrote:

Bob wrote:  
  

Bill Williamson wrote:


Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob wrote:
> Unbuffered / Registered obviously.
>

Bad form Bla Bla Bla but just to update the list, the abit A-S78H also
supports Un-buffered ECC RAM, it doesn't have FireWire though

http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NAME=A-S78H&fMTYPE=Socket%20AM2



Why do you think that ECC vs non ECC ram will have any bearing on 
stability of a media computer ?  If you're going ECC, why would you 
not also go SCSI?


I don't disagree with wanting stability, but the reality is that ECC 
likely will not give you any.
  
  
ECC RAM corrects bit errors in memory which could cause a crash or other 
problems, these errors while rare are estimated to occur once a month 
per GB of RAM, I'm planing have 2 or 4 GBs and I'll leave the system up 
all the time, which is why reliability and low power consumption are a must.


Actually the errors don't happen that often anymore, not sure exactly why, but I 
have monitored huge amounts of ram (1+ GB for months) and the errors happen 
pretty rarely except on machines getting huge numbers of errors, in a given 
month with a machine with 32GB on it very few of the machines get any errors at 
all, the few that get errors don't usually get only 1 error.
  
  
That's interesting to have some real world figures, thank you. 


But, if you are monitoring ECC then this will give you a chance to know about 
the memory *BEFORE* it causes you machine to be unstable and crash randomly 
without you knowing why it is crashing.   It would also speed up correcting the 
issue as you don't have to guess what the actual issue is.
  
  

What do you use to monitor the errors?

On AMD boards a program called mcelog (you will have to put it in cron) will 
work-most soft MCE errors are ECC errors either in the CPU or in memory, also 
something in the kernel (may require an extra module in some distribtions) 
called edac will also work.   The edac thing will also work on *SELECT* intel 
boards, mostly on the intel side only the higher end (dual socket server boards) 
are supported, on AMD because the ECC is in the CPU itself it is pretty much 
supported everywhere if the MB will take ECC ram.
  


But those are quite rare on consumer side of things, when I get these 
boards setup I'll look into mcelog vs edac, it looks like edac is in 
lenny but not etch.

http://packages.debian.org/edac-utils

It is really one of the advantages of the AMD cpus, as you can easily get ECC in 
them without buying a single socket server grade MB for a lot more money that 
you have to get with the Intel cpus.
  
  
This is exactly the reason I'm after an AM2+ MotherBoard that supports 
it, I like these 2 boards [4] but I've had bad experiences with both 
abit [0] and asus [1] in the past in both cases not actually their fault 
but once bitten.. the only downside is the lack of FireWire which as Ron 
on debian-users points out that can be fixed with a PCI card, the only 
problem with that is these mATX are quite short on space and I'll 
probably put a DVB-C card in.

In the order of the vendors, Supermicro's quality is on average better than any 
of the other MB only vendors.
  


Intel only though.


I forgot that since I have used a number of Supermicro AMD server boards, Intel 
only unless you are a VAR.   They do have AMD boards for VAR's, just not for 
consumers, and the lowest board is a low-end server board.


See: http://www.supermicro.com/aplus/

The closest they have use an Opteron 1000 and costs $260, it does have 6 sata 
ports, 2 gbit lans, and  some higher end pcie ports (x16,x8,x4), but no DVI or 
HDMI even on the more expensive MB with video on it.






I hear you, one thing that saddened me was ULi being swallowed by 
nVidia, they were coming out with some pretty innovative stuff, Oh well, 
it can join 3dfx, S3 graphics and lodes of others on the wasted 
potential and shattered dreams pile.


I'd actually like to get a system with one of the Loongson / Godson 3 
chips when they come out, assuming they're available in a more capable 
all round package than the Godson2 stuff was.



Not sure I would touch a via again, I just figured out that my machine (with a 
via chipset) became unstable when I started using both of the via sata ports, it 
had been previously stable without them, using the via ports made the raid about 
2x faster but prone to crashing the machine, and causing a number of other bad 
behaviors.


 Roger


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AM2+ motherboard with support for ECC RAM for media player / server

[Bob]

Roger Heflin wrote:

Bob wrote:
  

Roger Heflin wrote:

Bob wrote:  
  

Bill Williamson wrote:


Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob wrote:
> Unbuffered / Registered obviously.
>

Bad form Bla Bla Bla but just to update the list, the abit A-S78H also
supports Un-buffered ECC RAM, it doesn't have FireWire though

http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NAME=A-S78H&fMTYPE=Socket%20AM2



Why do you think that ECC vs non ECC ram will have any bearing on 
stability of a media computer ?  If you're going ECC, why would you 
not also go SCSI?


I don't disagree with wanting stability, but the reality is that ECC 
likely will not give you any.
  
  
ECC RAM corrects bit errors in memory which could cause a crash or other 
problems, these errors while rare are estimated to occur once a month 
per GB of RAM, I'm planing have 2 or 4 GBs and I'll leave the system up 
all the time, which is why reliability and low power consumption are a must.


Actually the errors don't happen that often anymore, not sure exactly why, but I 
have monitored huge amounts of ram (1+ GB for months) and the errors happen 
pretty rarely except on machines getting huge numbers of errors, in a given 
month with a machine with 32GB on it very few of the machines get any errors at 
all, the few that get errors don't usually get only 1 error.
  
  
That's interesting to have some real world figures, thank you. 


But, if you are monitoring ECC then this will give you a chance to know about 
the memory *BEFORE* it causes you machine to be unstable and crash randomly 
without you knowing why it is crashing.   It would also speed up correcting the 
issue as you don't have to guess what the actual issue is.
  
  

What do you use to monitor the errors?



On AMD boards a program called mcelog (you will have to put it in cron) will 
work-most soft MCE errors are ECC errors either in the CPU or in memory, also 
something in the kernel (may require an extra module in some distribtions) 
called edac will also work.   The edac thing will also work on *SELECT* intel 
boards, mostly on the intel side only the higher end (dual socket server boards) 
are supported, on AMD because the ECC is in the CPU itself it is pretty much 
supported everywhere if the MB will take ECC ram.
  


But those are quite rare on consumer side of things, when I get these 
boards setup I'll look into mcelog vs edac, it looks like edac is in 
lenny but not etch.

http://packages.debian.org/edac-utils

It is really one of the advantages of the AMD cpus, as you can easily get ECC in 
them without buying a single socket server grade MB for a lot more money that 
you have to get with the Intel cpus.
  
  
This is exactly the reason I'm after an AM2+ MotherBoard that supports 
it, I like these 2 boards [4] but I've had bad experiences with both 
abit [0] and asus [1] in the past in both cases not actually their fault 
but once bitten.. the only downside is the lack of FireWire which as Ron 
on debian-users points out that can be fixed with a PCI card, the only 
problem with that is these mATX are quite short on space and I'll 
probably put a DVB-C card in.



In the order of the vendors, Supermicro's quality is on average better than any 
of the other MB only vendors.
  


Intel only though.

I don't want to build a "proper" server with ECC Registered RAM and SCSI 
because it'll cost a fair bit more for a fairly marginal improvement in 
stability and longevity.


SCSI does not matter anymore, in the last 3 years the SATA/IDE disk have got a 
lot better, I think the issue is that the disk manufacturers figured out better 
platter quality control.   I have experience with large samples of SCSI 
(2003-800 scsi disks) and SATA disks (2000+ IDE/SATA  disks), and they both have 
similar failures rates, if you go back to large numbers of IDE/SCSI disks in the 
2000-2004 range this was not the case and the SATA disks were utter crap were 
you could expect 10-20% failures in the first 6 months, and the SCSI/FC disks 
had very low failure rates.
  
[0] abit BP6 motherboard dual skt 370 celeron board, that took ECC RAM, 
great home SMP board with a clear upgrade path, only intel moved some 
stuff around on the P!!! and shafted them / us


[1] some ASUS Slot A board with a crappy VIA chipset, [2] I won't touch 
VIA again [3] and shouldn't really hold it against ASUS but I sort of have



I have a via chipset, and I have used other VIA MB's, and I would probably avoid 
VIA if possible, but if they are the only ones with the required features I 
would use them.
  


I hear you, one thing that saddened me was ULi being swallowed by 
nVidia, they were coming out with some pretty innovative stuff, Oh well, 
it can join 3dfx, S3 graphics and lodes of o

Re: [mythtv-users] AM2+ motherboard with support for ECC RAM for media player / server

[Roger Heflin]

Bob wrote:

Roger Heflin wrote:

Bob wrote:
  

Bill Williamson wrote:

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Bob wrote:
> Unbuffered / Registered obviously.
>

Bad form Bla Bla Bla but just to update the list, the abit A-S78H also
supports Un-buffered ECC RAM, it doesn't have FireWire though

http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NAME=A-S78H&fMTYPE=Socket%20AM2



Why do you think that ECC vs non ECC ram will have any bearing on 
stability of a media computer ?  If you're going ECC, why would you 
not also go SCSI?


I don't disagree with wanting stability, but the reality is that ECC 
likely will not give you any.
  
ECC RAM corrects bit errors in memory which could cause a crash or other 
problems, these errors while rare are estimated to occur once a month 
per GB of RAM, I'm planing have 2 or 4 GBs and I'll leave the system up 
all the time, which is why reliability and low power consumption are a must.

Actually the errors don't happen that often anymore, not sure exactly why, but I 
have monitored huge amounts of ram (1+ GB for months) and the errors happen 
pretty rarely except on machines getting huge numbers of errors, in a given 
month with a machine with 32GB on it very few of the machines get any errors at 
all, the few that get errors don't usually get only 1 error.
  


That's interesting to have some real world figures, thank you. 

But, if you are monitoring ECC then this will give you a chance to know about 
the memory *BEFORE* it causes you machine to be unstable and crash randomly 
without you knowing why it is crashing.   It would also speed up correcting the 
issue as you don't have to guess what the actual issue is.
  


What do you use to monitor the errors?


On AMD boards a program called mcelog (you will have to put it in cron) will 
work-most soft MCE errors are ECC errors either in the CPU or in memory, also 
something in the kernel (may require an extra module in some distribtions) 
called edac will also work.   The edac thing will also work on *SELECT* intel 
boards, mostly on the intel side only the higher end (dual socket server boards) 
are supported, on AMD because the ECC is in the CPU itself it is pretty much 
supported everywhere if the MB will take ECC ram.




It is really one of the advantages of the AMD cpus, as you can easily get ECC in 
them without buying a single socket server grade MB for a lot more money that 
you have to get with the Intel cpus.
  


This is exactly the reason I'm after an AM2+ MotherBoard that supports 
it, I like these 2 boards [4] but I've had bad experiences with both 
abit [0] and asus [1] in the past in both cases not actually their fault 
but once bitten.. the only downside is the lack of FireWire which as Ron 
on debian-users points out that can be fixed with a PCI card, the only 
problem with that is these mATX are quite short on space and I'll 
probably put a DVB-C card in.


In the order of the vendors, Supermicro's quality is on average better than any 
of the other MB only vendors.




I don't want to build a "proper" server with ECC Registered RAM and SCSI 
because it'll cost a fair bit more for a fairly marginal improvement in 
stability and longevity.

SCSI does not matter anymore, in the last 3 years the SATA/IDE disk have got a 
lot better, I think the issue is that the disk manufacturers figured out better 
platter quality control.   I have experience with large samples of SCSI 
(2003-800 scsi disks) and SATA disks (2000+ IDE/SATA  disks), and they both have 
similar failures rates, if you go back to large numbers of IDE/SCSI disks in the 
2000-2004 range this was not the case and the SATA disks were utter crap were 
you could expect 10-20% failures in the first 6 months, and the SCSI/FC disks 
had very low failure rates.


[0] abit BP6 motherboard dual skt 370 celeron board, that took ECC RAM, 
great home SMP board with a clear upgrade path, only intel moved some 
stuff around on the P!!! and shafted them / us


[1] some ASUS Slot A board with a crappy VIA chipset, [2] I won't touch 
VIA again [3] and shouldn't really hold it against ASUS but I sort of have


I have a via chipset, and I have used other VIA MB's, and I would probably avoid 
VIA if possible, but if they are the only ones with the required features I 
would use them.


   Roger


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AM2+ motherboard with support for ECC RAM for media player / server

[Bob]

Roger Heflin wrote:

Bob wrote:
  

Bill Williamson wrote:

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Bob wrote:
> Unbuffered / Registered obviously.
>

Bad form Bla Bla Bla but just to update the list, the abit A-S78H also
supports Un-buffered ECC RAM, it doesn't have FireWire though

http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NAME=A-S78H&fMTYPE=Socket%20AM2



Why do you think that ECC vs non ECC ram will have any bearing on 
stability of a media computer ?  If you're going ECC, why would you 
not also go SCSI?


I don't disagree with wanting stability, but the reality is that ECC 
likely will not give you any.
  
ECC RAM corrects bit errors in memory which could cause a crash or other 
problems, these errors while rare are estimated to occur once a month 
per GB of RAM, I'm planing have 2 or 4 GBs and I'll leave the system up 
all the time, which is why reliability and low power consumption are a must.



Actually the errors don't happen that often anymore, not sure exactly why, but I 
have monitored huge amounts of ram (1+ GB for months) and the errors happen 
pretty rarely except on machines getting huge numbers of errors, in a given 
month with a machine with 32GB on it very few of the machines get any errors at 
all, the few that get errors don't usually get only 1 error.
  


That's interesting to have some real world figures, thank you. 

But, if you are monitoring ECC then this will give you a chance to know about 
the memory *BEFORE* it causes you machine to be unstable and crash randomly 
without you knowing why it is crashing.   It would also speed up correcting the 
issue as you don't have to guess what the actual issue is.
  


What do you use to monitor the errors?

It is really one of the advantages of the AMD cpus, as you can easily get ECC in 
them without buying a single socket server grade MB for a lot more money that 
you have to get with the Intel cpus.
  


This is exactly the reason I'm after an AM2+ MotherBoard that supports 
it, I like these 2 boards [4] but I've had bad experiences with both 
abit [0] and asus [1] in the past in both cases not actually their fault 
but once bitten.. the only downside is the lack of FireWire which as Ron 
on debian-users points out that can be fixed with a PCI card, the only 
problem with that is these mATX are quite short on space and I'll 
probably put a DVB-C card in.


I don't want to build a "proper" server with ECC Registered RAM and SCSI 
because it'll cost a fair bit more for a fairly marginal improvement in 
stability and longevity.



SCSI does not matter anymore, in the last 3 years the SATA/IDE disk have got a 
lot better, I think the issue is that the disk manufacturers figured out better 
platter quality control.   I have experience with large samples of SCSI 
(2003-800 scsi disks) and SATA disks (2000+ IDE/SATA  disks), and they both have 
similar failures rates, if you go back to large numbers of IDE/SCSI disks in the 
2000-2004 range this was not the case and the SATA disks were utter crap were 
you could expect 10-20% failures in the first 6 months, and the SCSI/FC disks 
had very low failure rates.


[0] abit BP6 motherboard dual skt 370 celeron board, that took ECC RAM, 
great home SMP board with a clear upgrade path, only intel moved some 
stuff around on the P!!! and shafted them / us


[1] some ASUS Slot A board with a crappy VIA chipset, [2] I won't touch 
VIA again [3] and shouldn't really hold it against ASUS but I sort of have


[2] and then ALI came along to show us all that VIA wasn't that bad 
after all


[3] although if they genuinely open up their graphics drivers and the 
new 64bit CPU is as OK as it's touted to be, I may well use them for low 
power desktops or media players, and embedded servers if they put ECC 
support in their RAM controllers


[4] the abit A-S78H & ASUS M3A78-EMH HDMI for those that missed the OPs



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On 05/07/08 01:23, Bob wrote:
> Bob wrote:
>> Unbuffered / Registered obviously.
>>   
> 
> Bad form Bla Bla Bla but just to update the list, the abit A-S78H also
> supports Un-buffered ECC RAM, it doesn't have FireWire though
> http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NAME=A-S78H&fMTYPE=Socket%20AM2

Add a Firewire PCI card?

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[Bob]

Bob wrote:

Unbuffered / Registered obviously.
  


Bad form Bla Bla Bla but just to update the list, the abit A-S78H also 
supports Un-buffered ECC RAM, it doesn't have FireWire though

http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NAME=A-S78H&fMTYPE=Socket%20AM2

This is an edited repost of something I sent to debian-user list last 
month with little result, so apologies to those who, like me, are 
subscribed to both.


I'm building a couple of Debian / MythTV based home media players /
servers and want reliability + low power consumption and noise, at the 
moment I'm leaning towards


CPU45W Dual Core Athlon64
MotherboardASUS M3A78-EMH HDMI
RAM4GB DDR2 ECC RAM as fast as I can find [0]
GPURadeon X800, X1900, X1950 [1] or on-board [2]
HDD (system)   Toshiba MK8037GSX or some other SATA laptop drive
HDD (Data) Western Digital 1TB Green Power
   or the Samsung ITB F1
and some DVB-C card

I'll probably go for ATI/AMD graphics because
A: I want to reward AMD for the recent opening up of their GPU specks
B: no other GPU matches the on-board one on the 780G chipset in terms of 
performance for power consumption, at a rough guess with the on-board 
GPU, a 45W CPU and a Laptop HardDrive or net boot I should be able to 
get the whole systems power to 30 or 40 W idle and maybe 70W under load, 
if I can do that then it can be passively cooled with no fans and 
potentially no moving parts at all.


The ASUS AM2+ boards are the only ones I can find with the traces / BIOS
support for ECC RAM but this one doesn't have FireWire on-board which
I'd like, can anyone suggest another mATX system with USB2, SATA2, ATA,
FireWire, Digital sound IO and ECC RAM support that would meet my
requirements? [3]

Does anyone know weather an Athlon X2 4850e (2500MHz) or Athlon X2
BE-2400 (2300MHz) (both 45W ) is going to be capable of decoding H.264
1080p in Blu-ray quality if the only assistance it gets is with scaling 
via XV which already works for GPUs <= R400 in the Radion diver [5] but 
I don't think does yet in RadeonHD? [6]


How about when we get IDCT (Inverse Discrete Cosine Transform) and MC
(Motion Compensation) video acceleration in RadeonHD?

Thanks for any help.


[0] ECC for prolonged uptime and reliability without having to go for 
full Opteron with Registered ECC RAM, the fastest ECC sticks I can find 
are DDR2-800, I can't find any 1066s and would like to for some headroom


[1] I haven't decided which GPU to go for, I'll have to do more research
into how well R500 and R600 GPU are handling video playback at the
moment, I have a feeling that for simplicity I may have to get an R400
GPU as an interim measure and then when RadeonHD matures a bit I'll
switch to either the On-Board or an R500 based discreet card [4]

[2] for the first time in my life I'm considering on-board graphics (the 
780G chipset).


[3] not necessarily AMD but preferably

[4] Because the R600 Unified Video Decoder (UVD) has integrated DRM
we'll probably never get access to it, in which case any
hardware-assisted video decoding the Linux world sees will be in the
same form as the R500 stuff, (pixel or vertex shader)  I'm unsure if 
this will mean that R500s will ultimately be "better" than R600s but I 
suspect they'll be the same, either way for Home Theater PCs I'd really 
like someone to start putting Mobility Radeon GPUs on PCIe cards.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=955&num=1

[5] and maybe R500 too as Dave Arlied has been running the Radion driver 
on R500 hardware, but he has a powerful beard so it's probably not a 
solution I, with my puny stubble, want to rely on for my everyday video 
playback needs quite yet.


[6] up to 40Mbit/s, probably not is my feeling from reading round, I
think an X2 6000+ (3000 MHz) at 89W or 125W can *just* do it.

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Re: AM2+ motherboard with support for ECC RAM for media player / server

[Bob]

Bob wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

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On 04/28/08 21:41, Bob wrote:
 

Unbuffered / Registered obviously.

I'm building a couple of Debian / MythTV based home media players /
servers and want low power consumption and noise, at the moment I'm
leaning towards

CPU45W Dual Core Athlon
Motherboard ASUS M3A78-EMH HDMI
RAM   4GB DDR2 ECC RAM as fast as I can find [0]



Why ECC?
  


Prolonged uptime and reliability without having to go for full Opteron 
with Registered ECC RAM.



GPURadeon X800, X1900, X1950 [1] or on-board [2]



Why not nvdia?
  


1. I want to reward AMD for the recent opening up of their GPU specks
2. none of the other GPUs match the on-board one on the 780G chipset 
in terms of performance for power consumption, at a rough guess with 
the on-board GPU, a 45W CPU and a Laptop HardDrive or net boot I 
should be able to get the whole systems power to 30 or 40 W idle and 
maybe 70W under load, if I can do that then it can be passively cooled 
with no fans and potentially no moving parts at all.



HDD (system) Toshiba MK8037GSX or some other SATA laptop drive
HDD (Data) Western Digital 1TB Green Power or the Samsung 
ITB F1

and some DVB-C card

The ASUS boards are the only ones I can find with the traces / BIOS
support for ECC RAM but this one doesn't have FireWire on-board which
I'd like, can anyone suggest another mATX system with USB2, SATA2, ATA,
FireWire, Digital sound IO and ECC RAM support that would meet my
requirements? [3]

Does anyone know weather an Athlon X2 4850e (2500MHz) or Athlon X2
BE-2400 (2300MHz) (both 45W ) is going to be capable of decoding H.264
1080p in Blu-ray quality? [5]



It'll have the oomph, but as you mentioned in your footnotes, might
not have the software to decode it,
  


I meant will it have the power if the only assistance it gets is with 
scaling via XV which already works for GPUs <= R400 in the Radion 
diver [6] but I don't think does yet in RadeonHD?



How about when we get IDCT (Inverse Discrete Cosine Transform) and MC
(Motion Compensation) video acceleration in RadeonHD?

Thanks for any help.


[0] at the moment the fastest ECC sticks I can find are DDR2-800, I
can't find any 1066s and would like some headroom

[1] I haven't decided which GPU to go for, I'll have to do more 
research

into how well R500 and R600 GPU are handling video playback at the
moment, I have a feeling that for simplicity I may have to get an R400
GPU as an interim measure and then when RadeonHD matures a bit I'll
switch to either the On-Board or an R500 based discreet card [4]

[2] for the first time in my life I'm considering on-board graphics,of
the 780G chipset.

[3] not necessarily AMD but preferably

[4] Because the R600 Unified Video Decoder (UVD) has integrated DRM
we'll probably never get access to it, in which case any
hardware-assisted video decoding the Linux world sees will be in the
same form as the R500 stuff, I'm unsure weather this will mean that
R500s will ultimately be "better" than R600 but I suspect they'll be 
the

same, either way for Home Theater PCs I'd really like someone to start
putting Mobility Radeon GPUs on PCIe cards.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=955&num=1

[5] up to 40Mbit/s, probably not is my feeling from reading round, I
think an X2 6000+ (3000 MHz) at 89W or 125W can just do it.



[6] and maybe R500 too as Dave Arlied has been running the Radion 
driver on R500 hardware, but he has a powerful beard so it's probably 
not a solution I want to rely on for my everyday video playback needs 
quite yet.


sorry no snippage

I've reedited and reposted this question to MythTV-users they're very 
good at multimedia stuff and should be able to answer the question on 
CPU grunt at the least, and may have some useful suggestions on the rest.


I'll update the list if I get anything useful back.
What's the etiquette on CCing one list on a discussion in another?


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Re: AM2+ motherboard with support for ECC RAM for media player / server

[Bob]

Ron Johnson wrote:

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On 04/28/08 21:41, Bob wrote:
  

Unbuffered / Registered obviously.

I'm building a couple of Debian / MythTV based home media players /
servers and want low power consumption and noise, at the moment I'm
leaning towards

CPU45W Dual Core Athlon
Motherboard ASUS M3A78-EMH HDMI
RAM   4GB DDR2 ECC RAM as fast as I can find [0]



Why ECC?
  


Prolonged uptime and reliability without having to go for full Opteron 
with Registered ECC RAM.



GPURadeon X800, X1900, X1950 [1] or on-board [2]



Why not nvdia?
  


1. I want to reward AMD for the recent opening up of their GPU specks
2. none of the other GPUs match the on-board one on the 780G chipset in 
terms of performance for power consumption, at a rough guess with the 
on-board GPU, a 45W CPU and a Laptop HardDrive or net boot I should be 
able to get the whole systems power to 30 or 40 W idle and maybe 70W 
under load, if I can do that then it can be passively cooled with no 
fans and potentially no moving parts at all.



HDD (system) Toshiba MK8037GSX or some other SATA laptop drive
HDD (Data) Western Digital 1TB Green Power or the Samsung ITB F1
and some DVB-C card

The ASUS boards are the only ones I can find with the traces / BIOS
support for ECC RAM but this one doesn't have FireWire on-board which
I'd like, can anyone suggest another mATX system with USB2, SATA2, ATA,
FireWire, Digital sound IO and ECC RAM support that would meet my
requirements? [3]

Does anyone know weather an Athlon X2 4850e (2500MHz) or Athlon X2
BE-2400 (2300MHz) (both 45W ) is going to be capable of decoding H.264
1080p in Blu-ray quality? [5]



It'll have the oomph, but as you mentioned in your footnotes, might
not have the software to decode it,
  


I meant will it have the power if the only assistance it gets is with 
scaling via XV which already works for GPUs <= R400 in the Radion diver 
[6] but I don't think does yet in RadeonHD?



How about when we get IDCT (Inverse Discrete Cosine Transform) and MC
(Motion Compensation) video acceleration in RadeonHD?

Thanks for any help.


[0] at the moment the fastest ECC sticks I can find are DDR2-800, I
can't find any 1066s and would like some headroom

[1] I haven't decided which GPU to go for, I'll have to do more research
into how well R500 and R600 GPU are handling video playback at the
moment, I have a feeling that for simplicity I may have to get an R400
GPU as an interim measure and then when RadeonHD matures a bit I'll
switch to either the On-Board or an R500 based discreet card [4]

[2] for the first time in my life I'm considering on-board graphics,of
the 780G chipset.

[3] not necessarily AMD but preferably

[4] Because the R600 Unified Video Decoder (UVD) has integrated DRM
we'll probably never get access to it, in which case any
hardware-assisted video decoding the Linux world sees will be in the
same form as the R500 stuff, I'm unsure weather this will mean that
R500s will ultimately be "better" than R600 but I suspect they'll be the
same, either way for Home Theater PCs I'd really like someone to start
putting Mobility Radeon GPUs on PCIe cards.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=955&num=1

[5] up to 40Mbit/s, probably not is my feeling from reading round, I
think an X2 6000+ (3000 MHz) at 89W or 125W can just do it.



[6] and maybe R500 too as Dave Arlied has been running the Radion driver 
on R500 hardware, but he has a powerful beard so it's probably not a 
solution I want to rely on for my everyday video playback needs quite yet.



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[Ron Johnson]

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On 04/28/08 21:41, Bob wrote:
> Unbuffered / Registered obviously.
> 
> I'm building a couple of Debian / MythTV based home media players /
> servers and want low power consumption and noise, at the moment I'm
> leaning towards
> 
> CPU45W Dual Core Athlon
> Motherboard ASUS M3A78-EMH HDMI
> RAM   4GB DDR2 ECC RAM as fast as I can find [0]

Why ECC?

> GPURadeon X800, X1900, X1950 [1] or on-board [2]

Why not nvdia?

> HDD (system) Toshiba MK8037GSX or some other SATA laptop drive
> HDD (Data) Western Digital 1TB Green Power or the Samsung ITB F1
> and some DVB-C card
> 
> The ASUS boards are the only ones I can find with the traces / BIOS
> support for ECC RAM but this one doesn't have FireWire on-board which
> I'd like, can anyone suggest another mATX system with USB2, SATA2, ATA,
> FireWire, Digital sound IO and ECC RAM support that would meet my
> requirements? [3]
> 
> Does anyone know weather an Athlon X2 4850e (2500MHz) or Athlon X2
> BE-2400 (2300MHz) (both 45W ) is going to be capable of decoding H.264
> 1080p in Blu-ray quality? [5]

It'll have the oomph, but as you mentioned in your footnotes, might
not have the software to decode it,

> How about when we get IDCT (Inverse Discrete Cosine Transform) and MC
> (Motion Compensation) video acceleration in RadeonHD?
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> 
> [0] at the moment the fastest ECC sticks I can find are DDR2-800, I
> can't find any 1066s and would like some headroom
> 
> [1] I haven't decided which GPU to go for, I'll have to do more research
> into how well R500 and R600 GPU are handling video playback at the
> moment, I have a feeling that for simplicity I may have to get an R400
> GPU as an interim measure and then when RadeonHD matures a bit I'll
> switch to either the On-Board or an R500 based discreet card [4]
> 
> [2] for the first time in my life I'm considering on-board graphics,of
> the 780G chipset.
> 
> [3] not necessarily AMD but preferably
> 
> [4] Because the R600 Unified Video Decoder (UVD) has integrated DRM
> we'll probably never get access to it, in which case any
> hardware-assisted video decoding the Linux world sees will be in the
> same form as the R500 stuff, I'm unsure weather this will mean that
> R500s will ultimately be "better" than R600 but I suspect they'll be the
> same, either way for Home Theater PCs I'd really like someone to start
> putting Mobility Radeon GPUs on PCIe cards.
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=955&num=1
> 
> [5] up to 40Mbit/s, probably not is my feeling from reading round, I
> think an X2 6000+ (3000 MHz) at 89W or 125W can just do it.
> 
> 


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[Bob]

Unbuffered / Registered obviously.

I'm building a couple of Debian / MythTV based home media players / 
servers and want low power consumption and noise, at the moment I'm 
leaning towards


CPU45W Dual Core Athlon
Motherboard ASUS M3A78-EMH HDMI
RAM   4GB DDR2 ECC RAM as fast as I can find [0]
GPURadeon X800, X1900, X1950 [1] or on-board [2]
HDD (system) Toshiba MK8037GSX or some other SATA laptop drive
HDD (Data) Western Digital 1TB Green Power or the Samsung ITB F1
and some DVB-C card

The ASUS boards are the only ones I can find with the traces / BIOS 
support for ECC RAM but this one doesn't have FireWire on-board which 
I'd like, can anyone suggest another mATX system with USB2, SATA2, ATA, 
FireWire, Digital sound IO and ECC RAM support that would meet my 
requirements? [3]


Does anyone know weather an Athlon X2 4850e (2500MHz) or Athlon X2 
BE-2400 (2300MHz) (both 45W ) is going to be capable of decoding H.264 
1080p in Blu-ray quality? [5]


How about when we get IDCT (Inverse Discrete Cosine Transform) and MC 
(Motion Compensation) video acceleration in RadeonHD?


Thanks for any help.


[0] at the moment the fastest ECC sticks I can find are DDR2-800, I 
can't find any 1066s and would like some headroom


[1] I haven't decided which GPU to go for, I'll have to do more research 
into how well R500 and R600 GPU are handling video playback at the 
moment, I have a feeling that for simplicity I may have to get an R400 
GPU as an interim measure and then when RadeonHD matures a bit I'll 
switch to either the On-Board or an R500 based discreet card [4]


[2] for the first time in my life I'm considering on-board graphics,of 
the 780G chipset.


[3] not necessarily AMD but preferably

[4] Because the R600 Unified Video Decoder (UVD) has integrated DRM 
we'll probably never get access to it, in which case any 
hardware-assisted video decoding the Linux world sees will be in the 
same form as the R500 stuff, I'm unsure weather this will mean that 
R500s will ultimately be "better" than R600 but I suspect they'll be the 
same, either way for Home Theater PCs I'd really like someone to start 
putting Mobility Radeon GPUs on PCIe cards.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=955&num=1

[5] up to 40Mbit/s, probably not is my feeling from reading round, I 
think an X2 6000+ (3000 MHz) at 89W or 125W can just do it.



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[OT] Anybody using Pic'nRoll Trully media player for oggs?

[Javier Vasquez]

Hi,

I acquired a Pic'nRoll Trully media player which is advertised to
interpret oggs from Q1 to Q10.

My experience, even with latest firmware from their site, is that it
doesn't play oggs nice, since I experience little jumps and sometimes
the player gets stuck for a little while as well.  Not to mention that
if the screen is not off while playing, or if a bottom or something is
used, then the player slows down...  I didn't notice these things
while playing mp3's.

So I was wondering if it's the same to anybody who has acquired such
player, and if there's some workAround, like changing completely the
firmware for a rockbox one or something similar...

Thanks,

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Re: Re: Media player

[Vidyadhar Gadgil]

Etch has debian-multimedia-keyring, installing which seems to solve the
problem.
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Re: Default Media Player

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 08:05:21PM +0100, somethin2cool wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 12:14:07PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>Just to save me doing a bunch of formats and re-installs, can someone 
> >>tell me off the top of their head what media player would have been 
> >>the default for AVIs if i installed Debian 4 binary 1 (gnome), then 
> >>added xfce and opened an AVI from Thunar?
> >
> >what exactly would cause the formats and re-installs? 
> >
> 
> Currently it's faster than fixing problems, but in this case it would be 
>  to reproduce the exact environment of a few days ago

I'm resending this 'cause I lost my connection mid-write... If I've
duped myself, sorry.

So. A word of friendly advice: learn to use your package manager
(apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, etc). Reinstalling is usually a last
resort with debian, and is generally not necessary except in the most
extreme cases of fs corruption and the like. It is certainly overkill
for something like choosing a media player. And nothing prevents you
from installing multiple media players. I typically have 3-4 on my
machines and use them for different purposes or moods.

As far as reproducing an environment, look into dpkg --get-selections,
dpkg --set-selections and apt-get dselect-upgrade.

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[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 08:05:21PM +0100, somethin2cool wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 12:14:07PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>Just to save me doing a bunch of formats and re-installs, can someone 
> >>tell me off the top of their head what media player would have been the 
> >>default for AVIs if i installed Debian 4 binary 1 (gnome), then added 
> >>xfce and opened an AVI from Thunar?
> >
> >what exactly would cause the formats and re-installs? 
> >
> >A
> 
> Currently it's faster than fixing problems, but in this case it would be 
>  to reproduce the exact environment of a few days ago

just some friendly advice: learn to use your package manager
(apt-get, aptitude, whatever). formats and reinstalls are really a
last resort and almost never needed. Especially for something as
trivial as selecting a media player. And nothing prevents you from
having more than one installed. I typically have 3 or 4 installed and
use different ones depending on my mood.

for reproducing an exact environment, look at dpkg --get-selections,
dpkg --set-selections and apt-get dselect-upgrade.

hth


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[somethin2cool]

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 12:14:07PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just to save me doing a bunch of formats and re-installs, can someone 
tell me off the top of their head what media player would have been the 
default for AVIs if i installed Debian 4 binary 1 (gnome), then added 
xfce and opened an AVI from Thunar?


what exactly would cause the formats and re-installs? 


A


Currently it's faster than fixing problems, but in this case it would be 
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[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 12:14:07PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Just to save me doing a bunch of formats and re-installs, can someone 
> tell me off the top of their head what media player would have been the 
> default for AVIs if i installed Debian 4 binary 1 (gnome), then added 
> xfce and opened an AVI from Thunar?

what exactly would cause the formats and re-installs? 

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> Totem? XFMedia? Because it didn't look like either. It was awesome and I 
> want to add it to my xfce only environment. It was GTK+2 and had a 
> playlist on the right side as default.

Sounds like totem (which's sidebar may be switched off).

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Just to save me doing a bunch of formats and re-installs, can someone 
tell me off the top of their head what media player would have been the 
default for AVIs if i installed Debian 4 binary 1 (gnome), then added 
xfce and opened an AVI from Thunar?


Totem? XFMedia? Because it didn't look like either. It was awesome and I 
want to add it to my xfce only environment. It was GTK+2 and had a 
playlist on the right side as default.



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Re: totem media player...

[Michael Fothergill]

From: Marcelo Gondim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user 
Subject: Re: totem media player...
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 21:20:40 +

Hello!

 I was able to watch it with the Firefox's extension Media Player
Connectivity and the Real Player plugin:
http://www.real.com/linux/?rppr=rnwk&src=040104freeplayer

 I hope it works for you.

 Cheers!


Thanks for this advice.  I went on the firefox plugin site and installed the 
Media Player Connectivity thing.  I had also installed the VLC media player 
as suggested in an earlier posting.


I then had to restart firefox.  Then the media player connectivity beastie 
spring into life and started to sniff around and look for media players on 
my machine. It found a bunch and seemed to settle on VLC as its favourite 
one.   Then when I went on the web site with the video on it I got the AV 
box from firefox but then the media player connectivity plugin made a new 
little window for me.  I then clicked on it and it fired up VLC.  Then I was 
able to watch the video.


Thanks a lot.

Regards

Michael Fothergill









On Ter, 2007-01-09 at 00:38 +, Michael Fothergill wrote:
> Dear folks,
>
> I have been trying to watch a video on the following site:
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsnight
>
> If you go on there and click on a video clip you get a little firefox AV
> window.  The black box and some boxes with arrows appear to play the 
clip

> but the clip refuses to start.
>
> Javascipt etc is enabled.  I don't think I have a kill the pop ups off
> setting in the browser that could mess things up
>
> I also tried firing up totem movie player to see if it would help.  
Excuse

> my ignorance but is it the free alternative to real player?
>
> It can't seem to find the real player files on the web page.  You can 
get

> the web page to look for a Windows media player file instead of a real
> player format file.  If you do this then totem movie player says it 
can't

> read the file type and so you need another plug in.
>
> What plug in might this be?
>
> In my earlier posting I had thought to try to download real player for 
linux
> but if other free alternatives are actually better then perhaps I should 
try

> to use them instead.
>
> Comments appreciated.
>
> Regards
>
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Re: totem media player...

[Marcelo Gondim]

Hello!

 I was able to watch it with the Firefox's extension Media Player
Connectivity and the Real Player plugin:
http://www.real.com/linux/?rppr=rnwk&src=040104freeplayer 

 I hope it works for you.

 Cheers!

On Ter, 2007-01-09 at 00:38 +, Michael Fothergill wrote:
> Dear folks,
> 
> I have been trying to watch a video on the following site:
> 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsnight
> 
> If you go on there and click on a video clip you get a little firefox AV 
> window.  The black box and some boxes with arrows appear to play the clip 
> but the clip refuses to start.
> 
> Javascipt etc is enabled.  I don't think I have a kill the pop ups off 
> setting in the browser that could mess things up
> 
> I also tried firing up totem movie player to see if it would help.  Excuse 
> my ignorance but is it the free alternative to real player?
> 
> It can't seem to find the real player files on the web page.  You can get 
> the web page to look for a Windows media player file instead of a real 
> player format file.  If you do this then totem movie player says it can't 
> read the file type and so you need another plug in.
> 
> What plug in might this be?
> 
> In my earlier posting I had thought to try to download real player for linux 
> but if other free alternatives are actually better then perhaps I should try 
> to use them instead.
> 
> Comments appreciated.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Michael Fothergill
> 
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Re: totem media player...

[Douglas Tutty]

On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 12:38:11AM +, Michael Fothergill wrote:
 
> I also tried firing up totem movie player to see if it would help.  Excuse 
> my ignorance but is it the free alternative to real player?
> 
> It can't seem to find the real player files on the web page.  You can get 
> the web page to look for a Windows media player file instead of a real 
> player format file.  If you do this then totem movie player says it can't 
> read the file type and so you need another plug in.
> 
> What plug in might this be?
> 
> In my earlier posting I had thought to try to download real player for 
> linux but if other free alternatives are actually better then perhaps I 
> should try to use them instead.

Try VLC the VideoLan client.  There's a plugin for mozilla-type browsers
as well.  Both are standard debian packages.  Look closely at all the
suggests and recommends.

Good luck.

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totem media player...

[Michael Fothergill]

Dear folks,

I have been trying to watch a video on the following site:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsnight

If you go on there and click on a video clip you get a little firefox AV 
window.  The black box and some boxes with arrows appear to play the clip 
but the clip refuses to start.


Javascipt etc is enabled.  I don't think I have a kill the pop ups off 
setting in the browser that could mess things up


I also tried firing up totem movie player to see if it would help.  Excuse 
my ignorance but is it the free alternative to real player?


It can't seem to find the real player files on the web page.  You can get 
the web page to look for a Windows media player file instead of a real 
player format file.  If you do this then totem movie player says it can't 
read the file type and so you need another plug in.


What plug in might this be?

In my earlier posting I had thought to try to download real player for linux 
but if other free alternatives are actually better then perhaps I should try 
to use them instead.


Comments appreciated.

Regards

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Re: xine, mplayer or any media player segfaults

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 02:11 -0500, Nick Lidakis wrote:
> As of a couple of days ago, any media player that I try on my Debian Sid 
> box segfaults, no matter what video file format. Same goes after 
> installing VLC.
> 
> After doing a search, I think I might want to use a program called 
> strace to try to figure out what's going on. I have to admit that I am 
> totally perplexed by the strace man page as well as by the output after 
> running "strace xine example.avi".
> 
> How do I post the output to the mailing list, as a text attachment or 
> inline with the message? Any preferred command line options?

strace output is really verbose and become really long really fast, I
don't think putting it inline would be appreciated unless you trim it
down to only the relevant parts, if it's possible to find them. 

You could use something like http://pastebin.com/ to post it online and
provide a link, or possibly compress the log and attach it to a mail.

For using strace, this tutorial is pretty easy to follow.
http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/05/strace-very-powerful-troubleshooting.html

If strace can't help you, the next step is gdb, but it's a little more
complicated as you need to build debug enabled version of the packages
you have trouble with.
http://wiki.debian.org/?HowToGetABacktrace

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[Nick Lidakis]

As of a couple of days ago, any media player that I try on my Debian Sid 
box segfaults, no matter what video file format. Same goes after 
installing VLC.


After doing a search, I think I might want to use a program called 
strace to try to figure out what's going on. I have to admit that I am 
totally perplexed by the strace man page as well as by the output after 
running "strace xine example.avi".


How do I post the output to the mailing list, as a text attachment or 
inline with the message? Any preferred command line options?


Nick


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Re: Media player

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On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 11:39:26AM -0800, Raquel wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 20:37:15 +0100
> "Brian Durant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Hmm. OK, I assume this is being dealt with? There isn't anywhere
> > near the chatter that can be found on an Ubuntu Bugzilla bug. I
> > hope this is fixed by the time Etch becomes stable.
[snip]

> U ... that's what stable is.

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On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 20:37:15 +0100
"Brian Durant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >
> > Sounds like you're affected by this bug,
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=385322
> >
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> Hmm. OK, I assume this is being dealt with? There isn't anywhere
> near the chatter that can be found on an Ubuntu Bugzilla bug. I
> hope this is fixed by the time Etch becomes stable.
> 
> Thanks for the effort :-)
> 
> Brian

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Re: Media player

[Brian Durant]

On 12/2/06, Sven Arvidsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Sat, 2006-12-02 at 19:35 +0100, Brian Durant wrote:
> Whoops, my fault. A return character crept into the command. However,
> there still seems to be a problem. When I try to play a CD after
> having started Goobox form command line, I get the following:
>
> :~$ goobox
>$1 =
>$1 =
>$1 =
>$2 =
>$3 =
>$4 =
>$1 =
>$1 =
>
> (goobox:4610): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_element_link_many: assertion
> `GST_IS_ELEMENT (element_2)' failed
>$1 =
>$1 =
>$1 =
>$2 =
>$3 =
>$4 =
>$1 =
>$1 =
>
> (goobox:4610): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_element_link_many: assertion
> `GST_IS_ELEMENT (element_2)' failed
> Segmentation fault
>
> Goobox still crashes. The difference is that before it was when I
> started the app. Now it crashes when I try to play a CD. I am not sure
> what difference that makes, but I thought it might be important.

Sounds like you're affected by this bug,
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=385322

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Hmm. OK, I assume this is being dealt with? There isn't anywhere near
the chatter that can be found on an Ubuntu Bugzilla bug. I hope this
is fixed by the time Etch becomes stable.

Thanks for the effort :-)

Brian


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Re: Media player

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Sat, 2006-12-02 at 19:35 +0100, Brian Durant wrote:
> Whoops, my fault. A return character crept into the command. However,
> there still seems to be a problem. When I try to play a CD after
> having started Goobox form command line, I get the following:
> 
> :~$ goobox
>$1 =
>$1 =
>$1 =
>$2 =
>$3 =
>$4 =
>$1 =
>$1 =
> 
> (goobox:4610): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_element_link_many: assertion
> `GST_IS_ELEMENT (element_2)' failed
>$1 =
>$1 =
>$1 =
>$2 =
>$3 =
>$4 =
>$1 =
>$1 =
> 
> (goobox:4610): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_element_link_many: assertion
> `GST_IS_ELEMENT (element_2)' failed
> Segmentation fault
> 
> Goobox still crashes. The difference is that before it was when I
> started the app. Now it crashes when I try to play a CD. I am not sure
> what difference that makes, but I thought it might be important.

Sounds like you're affected by this bug,
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=385322

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Re: Media player

[Brian Durant]

On 12/2/06, Brian Durant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Sven,

On 12/1/06, Sven Arvidsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 23:00 +0100, Brian Durant wrote:
> > Neither of these were installed. I installed them both and now GNOME
> > CD, Rhythmbox and Sound Juicer seem to work fine. GNOME CD player
> > plays CD's and Rhythmbox and Sound Juicer play both CD's and .mp3
> > files. Goobox however, crashes immediately on startup. When I start it
> > from the command line I get the following:
>
> [...]
>
> > ** (goobox:5022): WARNING **: No GConf default audio sink key and
> > osssink doesn't work
>
> [...]
>
> > It looks to me to be the same message as before - correct?
> >
> > > Launch gstreamer-properties and try setting Audio Output to Autodetect
> > > or esd (or esound, not sure what it's called).
> > >
> > > If none of the above works, please run
> > > gconftool-2 --get /system/gstreamer/0.8/default/audiosink
> > > and
> > > gconftool-2 --get /system/gstreamer/0.10/default/audiosink
> > > from a terminal and paste the output in a mail back to the list.
> >
> > Are any of the above relevant for the Goobox issue or am I into
> > something else now?
>
> Yes, it looks like everything is set up okay for the applications using
> GStreamer 0.10 (all of the above, except Goobox it seems).
>
> I _think_ this should work, run
>
> gconftool-2 -t string --set /system/gstreamer/0.8/default/audiosink
> esdsink

Hmmm. I got an error when I ran that:

~$ gconftool-2 -t string --set /system/gstreamer/0.8/default/audiosink
No value to set for key: `/system/gstreamer/0.8/default/audiosink'


Whoops, my fault. A return character crept into the command. However,
there still seems to be a problem. When I try to play a CD after
having started Goobox form command line, I get the following:

:~$ goobox
  $1 =
  $1 =
  $1 =
  $2 =
  $3 =
  $4 =
  $1 =
  $1 =

(goobox:4610): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_element_link_many: assertion
`GST_IS_ELEMENT (element_2)' failed
  $1 =
  $1 =
  $1 =
  $2 =
  $3 =
  $4 =
  $1 =
  $1 =

(goobox:4610): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_element_link_many: assertion
`GST_IS_ELEMENT (element_2)' failed
Segmentation fault

Goobox still crashes. The difference is that before it was when I
started the app. Now it crashes when I try to play a CD. I am not sure
what difference that makes, but I thought it might be important.

Cheers,

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Re: Media player

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 23:00 +0100, Brian Durant wrote:
> Neither of these were installed. I installed them both and now GNOME
> CD, Rhythmbox and Sound Juicer seem to work fine. GNOME CD player
> plays CD's and Rhythmbox and Sound Juicer play both CD's and .mp3
> files. Goobox however, crashes immediately on startup. When I start it
> from the command line I get the following:

[...]

> ** (goobox:5022): WARNING **: No GConf default audio sink key and
> osssink doesn't work

[...]

> It looks to me to be the same message as before - correct?
> 
> > Launch gstreamer-properties and try setting Audio Output to Autodetect
> > or esd (or esound, not sure what it's called).
> >
> > If none of the above works, please run
> > gconftool-2 --get /system/gstreamer/0.8/default/audiosink
> > and
> > gconftool-2 --get /system/gstreamer/0.10/default/audiosink
> > from a terminal and paste the output in a mail back to the list.
> 
> Are any of the above relevant for the Goobox issue or am I into
> something else now?

Yes, it looks like everything is set up okay for the applications using
GStreamer 0.10 (all of the above, except Goobox it seems).

I _think_ this should work, run

gconftool-2 -t string --set /system/gstreamer/0.8/default/audiosink
esdsink

from a terminal. I have no idea why this isn't set up in a sane way out
of the box.

By the way, no need to reply to me directly, I'm subscribed to the
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Re: Media player

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 19:49 +0100, Brian Durant wrote:
> I hadn't seen it before, but now that I have glanced at it, I don't
> believe it has relevance for me as my system sounds work and until I
> started trying to get .mp3 working, both Rythmbox, Goobox, etc. worked
> fine, but could only rip .ogg files.

[..]

> ** (goobox:4805): WARNING **: No GConf default audio sink key and
> osssink doesn't work

From this, I'm guessing that you're running the GNOME sound server, esd,
and for some reason GStreamer isn't set up using esd or autodetect.

Make sure gstreamer0.10-esd and gstreamer0.8-esd are installed. (Running
dpkg  -l packagename from a terminal should show this.)

Launch gstreamer-properties and try setting Audio Output to Autodetect
or esd (or esound, not sure what it's called).

If none of the above works, please run 
gconftool-2 --get /system/gstreamer/0.8/default/audiosink
and
gconftool-2 --get /system/gstreamer/0.10/default/audiosink
from a terminal and paste the output in a mail back to the list.

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Re: Media player

[Brian Durant]

Hi Antony,

On 12/1/06, Antony Gelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Brian Durant wrote:

> So, now that this problem is solved, I still need to deal with the
> original issue I posted about, which succinctly put is that I am a
> newbie mucking around trying to get all of the multimedia goodies
> installed. I have Helix and I have installed the w32codex, gstreamer,
> etc. However, Either I haven't installed everything or I have
> installed something that I shouldn't have.
>
> I get the following from the gnome-cd player:
>
> Error playing CD.
>
> Reason: Resource busy or not available.
>
> Goobox can't even find the CD (plus sometimes quits as soon as it
> starts) and Rythmbox and VLC refuse to play any audio files,
> regardless of whether they are .ogg, .mp3, etc.
>
> I thought I was just following the process for get multimedia to work,
> but there is definitely something not right here. Any ideas?
>

Yes, make sure that your user is in the audio and cdrom groups.  Have
you read this?  http://wiki.debian.org/SoundFAQ


I hadn't seen it before, but now that I have glanced at it, I don't
believe it has relevance for me as my system sounds work and until I
started trying to get .mp3 working, both Rythmbox, Goobox, etc. worked
fine, but could only rip .ogg files.

When I run Goobox from terminal, I get the following, unfortunately as
a newbie, It could just as easily be Greek:

$ goobox
  $1 =
  $1 =
  $2 =
  $3 =
  $4 =

** (goobox:4805): WARNING **: No GConf default audio sink key and
osssink doesn't work

(goobox:4805): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_bin_add_many: assertion
`GST_IS_ELEMENT (element_1)' failed

(goobox:4805): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_element_link_many: assertion
`GST_IS_ELEMENT (element_2)' failed

(goobox:4805): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_element_set_state: assertion
`GST_IS_ELEMENT (element)' failed

(goobox:4805): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_pad_query: assertion
`GST_IS_PAD (pad)' failed

(goobox:4805): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_pad_query: assertion
`GST_IS_PAD (pad)' failed

(goobox:4805): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_pad_convert: assertion
`GST_IS_PAD (pad)' failed

(goobox:4805): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_get: assertion
`G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(goobox:4805): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_element_set_state: assertion
`GST_IS_ELEMENT (element)' failed

** (goobox:4805): CRITICAL **: cddb_slave_client_query: assertion
`discid != NULL' failed
  $1 =
  $1 =
  $2 =
  $3 =
  $4 =

** (goobox:4805): WARNING **: No GConf default audio sink key and
osssink doesn't work

(goobox:4805): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_bin_add_many: assertion
`GST_IS_ELEMENT (element_1)' failed

(goobox:4805): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_element_link_many: assertion
`GST_IS_ELEMENT (element_2)' failed
  $1 =
  $1 =
  $2 =
  $3 =
  $4 =

** (goobox:4805): WARNING **: No GConf default audio sink key and
osssink doesn't work

(goobox:4805): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_bin_add_many: assertion
`GST_IS_ELEMENT (element_1)' failed

(goobox:4805): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_element_link_many: assertion
`GST_IS_ELEMENT (element_2)' failed
Segmentation fault

Rhythmbox is silent as the grave.

GNOME CD Player, likewise.


NB Automatix is quite well known for breaking stuff.


I have only heard positive things about both EasyUbuntu and Automatix,
but maybe only from people that haven't tried it themselves???

Cheers,

Brian


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Re: Media player

[Antony Gelberg]

Brian Durant wrote:

> So, now that this problem is solved, I still need to deal with the
> original issue I posted about, which succinctly put is that I am a
> newbie mucking around trying to get all of the multimedia goodies
> installed. I have Helix and I have installed the w32codex, gstreamer,
> etc. However, Either I haven't installed everything or I have
> installed something that I shouldn't have.
> 
> I get the following from the gnome-cd player:
> 
> Error playing CD.
> 
> Reason: Resource busy or not available.
> 
> Goobox can't even find the CD (plus sometimes quits as soon as it
> starts) and Rythmbox and VLC refuse to play any audio files,
> regardless of whether they are .ogg, .mp3, etc.
> 
> I thought I was just following the process for get multimedia to work,
> but there is definitely something not right here. Any ideas?
> 

Yes, make sure that your user is in the audio and cdrom groups.  Have
you read this?  http://wiki.debian.org/SoundFAQ

NB Automatix is quite well known for breaking stuff.


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Re: Media player

[Carl Fink]

On my box, for some reason, only in the last two days, totem-xine freezes
without ever displaying a window.  Etch, xorg+icewm, totem from the
Marillat archive.  Any suggestions?
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Re: Media player

[Brian Durant]

On 11/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Thank you Brian

-- Initial Header ---

From  : "Brian Durant" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To  : "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc  : debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date  : Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:03:30 +0100
Subject : Re: Media player

> I have been experiencing similar problems with Debian Etch (rc1)
> repositories mentioned at Debian Help: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/
>
> It sure would be nice if there was a Debian version of this
> "source-o-matic" sources.list generator:
>
> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
>
> and/or a Debian version of EasyUbuntu:
>
> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/index.html
>
> and/or Automatix2: http://www.getautomatix.com/
>
> I don't know if the repositories have been taken off line or if the
> structure of the repositories has been changed since the howtos were
> made. Very frustrating.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brian
>
> On 11/29/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > I've solved my problem on apt-get...simply reading how to on Debian site, 
sorry.
> > Now, I would like to have a media player for video streaming on my debian 
pc, how can i do?
> > I have found this http://www.bxlug.be/articles/129
> > Trying add this
> > deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main
> > in sources.list file and doing apt-get update then apt-get realplayer, it 
doen't work...
> > Can you help me?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > Carmelo


So, now that this problem is solved, I still need to deal with the
original issue I posted about, which succinctly put is that I am a
newbie mucking around trying to get all of the multimedia goodies
installed. I have Helix and I have installed the w32codex, gstreamer,
etc. However, Either I haven't installed everything or I have
installed something that I shouldn't have.

I get the following from the gnome-cd player:

Error playing CD.

Reason: Resource busy or not available.

Goobox can't even find the CD (plus sometimes quits as soon as it
starts) and Rythmbox and VLC refuse to play any audio files,
regardless of whether they are .ogg, .mp3, etc.

I thought I was just following the process for get multimedia to work,
but there is definitely something not right here. Any ideas?

Cheers,

Brian


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Re: Media player

[Brian Durant]

On 11/30/06, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 18:16:29 +0100, Brian Durant wrote:
> On 11/30/06, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 16:00:05 +0100, Brian Durant wrote:

[...]

> >> Where do I import the public key from??? I have been digging around
> >> Sunet.se but can't seem to find it.
> >
> >The safest way to get Christian Marillat's key is to install the package
> >"debian-keyring". Then you can export the key directly from the Debian
> >keyring and feed it into apt-key:
> >
> >gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg
> >-a --export 07DC563D1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -
>
> Hi Florian,
>
> Here is the result:
>
> ~$ sudo gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring
> /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg -a --export 07DC563D1F41B907 |
> sudo apt-key add -
> gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file
> `/home/user/.gnupg/gpg.conf'
> gpg: keyring `/usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg' created
> gpg: WARNING: nothing exported
> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
>
> I am a newbie to Linux, so I really don't understand any of the above.
> Any ideas?

It looks like you did not install the "debian-keyring" package before
you ran the gpg command. gpg did not find the debian-keyring.gpg file
(which was supposed to come from the keyring package) and therefore
decided to create an empty keyring from scratch. Also, it is not
necessary to run the gpg command as root (and you should always try to
run as root as little as possible).

To fix this:

1) Delete this empty keyring again (as root):
   sudo rm /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg

2) Install the debian-keyring package (as root):
   sudo apt-get install debian-keyring

3) Export Marillat's key to a file (as user):
   gpg --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg -a --export 
07DC563D1F41B907 > marillat.txt

4) Add the key from the file to the trusted keys of apt (as root):
   sudo apt-key add marillat.txt

5) Clean up the file (as user):
   rm marillat.txt

I have now split the process into more steps to make it easier to
understand. The original one-liner used a pipe "|" to feed the output of
the gpg-export command directly to the input of apt-key. This allows
very powerful combinations of commands, but it can be confusing if you
are new to Linux. Now we use a redirector ">" in step 3) to save the
output of the gpg-export command to a file and in step 4) we read that
file into apt-key.

Let us know if you run into any other difficulties.

--
Regards,
  Florian


That seems to have done the trick.

Many thanks,

Brian


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Re: Media player

[Florian Kulzer]

On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 18:16:29 +0100, Brian Durant wrote:
> On 11/30/06, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 16:00:05 +0100, Brian Durant wrote:

[...]

> >> Where do I import the public key from??? I have been digging around
> >> Sunet.se but can't seem to find it.
> >
> >The safest way to get Christian Marillat's key is to install the package
> >"debian-keyring". Then you can export the key directly from the Debian
> >keyring and feed it into apt-key:
> >
> >gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg 
> >-a --export 07DC563D1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -
> 
> Hi Florian,
> 
> Here is the result:
> 
> ~$ sudo gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring
> /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg -a --export 07DC563D1F41B907 |
> sudo apt-key add -
> gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file
> `/home/user/.gnupg/gpg.conf'
> gpg: keyring `/usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg' created
> gpg: WARNING: nothing exported
> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
> 
> I am a newbie to Linux, so I really don't understand any of the above.
> Any ideas?

It looks like you did not install the "debian-keyring" package before
you ran the gpg command. gpg did not find the debian-keyring.gpg file
(which was supposed to come from the keyring package) and therefore
decided to create an empty keyring from scratch. Also, it is not
necessary to run the gpg command as root (and you should always try to
run as root as little as possible).

To fix this:

1) Delete this empty keyring again (as root):
   sudo rm /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg

2) Install the debian-keyring package (as root):
   sudo apt-get install debian-keyring
 
3) Export Marillat's key to a file (as user):
   gpg --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg -a --export 
07DC563D1F41B907 > marillat.txt

4) Add the key from the file to the trusted keys of apt (as root):
   sudo apt-key add marillat.txt

5) Clean up the file (as user):
   rm marillat.txt

I have now split the process into more steps to make it easier to
understand. The original one-liner used a pipe "|" to feed the output of
the gpg-export command directly to the input of apt-key. This allows
very powerful combinations of commands, but it can be confusing if you
are new to Linux. Now we use a redirector ">" in step 3) to save the
output of the gpg-export command to a file and in step 4) we read that
file into apt-key.

Let us know if you run into any other difficulties.

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Re: Media player

[Alan Ianson]

On Thu November 30 2006 09:57 am, Brian Durant wrote:
> On 11/30/06, Alan Ianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu November 30 2006 09:16 am, Brian Durant wrote:
> > > On 11/30/06, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 16:00:05 +0100, Brian Durant wrote:
> > > > > On 11/30/06, Wulfy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > [...]
> > > >
> > > > > >Is your sources.list entry like this?:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >deb
> > > > > > http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia/
> > > > > > etch main
> > > > >
> > > > > It is now ;-) and it seems to work, except for the error message
> > > > > below:
> > > > >
> > > > > W: GPG error: http://ftp.sunet.se etch Release: The following
> > > > > signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not
> > > > > available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
> > > > >
> > > > > Where do I import the public key from??? I have been digging around
> > > > > Sunet.se but can't seem to find it.
> > > >
> > > > The safest way to get Christian Marillat's key is to install the
> > > > package "debian-keyring". Then you can export the key directly from
> > > > the Debian keyring and feed it into apt-key:
> > > >
> > > > gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring
> > > > /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg -a --export 07DC563D1F41B907 |
> > > > sudo apt-key add -
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Regards,
> > > >   Florian
> > >
> > > Hi Florian,
> > >
> > > Here is the result:
> > >
> > > ~$ sudo gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring
> > > /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg -a --export 07DC563D1F41B907 |
> > > sudo apt-key add -
> > > gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file
> > > `/home/user/.gnupg/gpg.conf'
> > > gpg: keyring `/usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg' created
> > > gpg: WARNING: nothing exported
> > > gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
> > >
> > > I am a newbie to Linux, so I really don't understand any of the above.
> > > Any ideas?
> >
> > That command needs to be run as root.. :)
>
> Thanks. Here is the output:
>
> # gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring
> /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg -a --export 07DC563D1F41B907 |
> sudo apt-key add -
> gpg: directory `/root/.gnupg' created
> gpg: new configuration file `/root/.gnupg/gpg.conf' created
> gpg: WARNING: options in `/root/.gnupg/gpg.conf' are not yet active
> during this run
> gpg: keyring `/root/.gnupg/secring.gpg' created
> gpg: WARNING: nothing exported
> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
>
> There still seems to be something fishy going on.

I added that key like this (as root)..

# gpg --keyserver hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907

then again..

# gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | apt-key add -

The above is from memory but the faq has a few examples of how to add that 
key.


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Re: Media player

[Alan Ianson]

On Thu November 30 2006 09:49 am, Alan Ianson wrote:
> On Thu November 30 2006 09:16 am, Brian Durant wrote:
> > On 11/30/06, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 16:00:05 +0100, Brian Durant wrote:
> > > > On 11/30/06, Wulfy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > >Is your sources.list entry like this?:
> > > > >
> > > > >deb
> > > > > http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia/
> > > > > etch main
> > > >
> > > > It is now ;-) and it seems to work, except for the error message
> > > > below:
> > > >
> > > > W: GPG error: http://ftp.sunet.se etch Release: The following
> > > > signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not
> > > > available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
> > > >
> > > > Where do I import the public key from??? I have been digging around
> > > > Sunet.se but can't seem to find it.
> > >
> > > The safest way to get Christian Marillat's key is to install the
> > > package "debian-keyring". Then you can export the key directly from the
> > > Debian keyring and feed it into apt-key:
> > >
> > > gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring
> > > /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg -a --export 07DC563D1F41B907 |
> > > sudo apt-key add -
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > >   Florian
> >
> > Hi Florian,
> >
> > Here is the result:
> >
> > ~$ sudo gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring
> > /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg -a --export 07DC563D1F41B907 |
> > sudo apt-key add -
> > gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file
> > `/home/user/.gnupg/gpg.conf'
> > gpg: keyring `/usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg' created
> > gpg: WARNING: nothing exported
> > gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
> >
> > I am a newbie to Linux, so I really don't understand any of the above.
> > Any ideas?
>
> That command needs to be run as root.. :)

You did sudo, but it looks like it didn't quite work as expected. Try changing 
to root (su perhaps) first and see if that command works.

When I added that repository I followed the instructions at 
http://debian-multimedia.org/faq.html. Not to say the above won't work just 
saying how I did it.. :)


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Re: Media player

[Brian Durant]

On 11/30/06, Alan Ianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Thu November 30 2006 09:16 am, Brian Durant wrote:
> On 11/30/06, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 16:00:05 +0100, Brian Durant wrote:
> > > On 11/30/06, Wulfy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > >Is your sources.list entry like this?:
> > > >
> > > >deb http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia/
> > > >etch main
> > >
> > > It is now ;-) and it seems to work, except for the error message below:
> > >
> > > W: GPG error: http://ftp.sunet.se etch Release: The following
> > > signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not
> > > available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
> > >
> > > Where do I import the public key from??? I have been digging around
> > > Sunet.se but can't seem to find it.
> >
> > The safest way to get Christian Marillat's key is to install the package
> > "debian-keyring". Then you can export the key directly from the Debian
> > keyring and feed it into apt-key:
> >
> > gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg
> > -a --export 07DC563D1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >   Florian
>
> Hi Florian,
>
> Here is the result:
>
> ~$ sudo gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring
> /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg -a --export 07DC563D1F41B907 |
> sudo apt-key add -
> gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file
> `/home/user/.gnupg/gpg.conf'
> gpg: keyring `/usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg' created
> gpg: WARNING: nothing exported
> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
>
> I am a newbie to Linux, so I really don't understand any of the above.
> Any ideas?

That command needs to be run as root.. :)


Thanks. Here is the output:

# gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring
/usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg -a --export 07DC563D1F41B907 |
sudo apt-key add -
gpg: directory `/root/.gnupg' created
gpg: new configuration file `/root/.gnupg/gpg.conf' created
gpg: WARNING: options in `/root/.gnupg/gpg.conf' are not yet active
during this run
gpg: keyring `/root/.gnupg/secring.gpg' created
gpg: WARNING: nothing exported
gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.

There still seems to be something fishy going on.

Cheers,

Brian


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Re: Media player

[Alan Ianson]

On Thu November 30 2006 09:16 am, Brian Durant wrote:
> On 11/30/06, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 16:00:05 +0100, Brian Durant wrote:
> > > On 11/30/06, Wulfy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > >Is your sources.list entry like this?:
> > > >
> > > >deb http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia/
> > > >etch main
> > >
> > > It is now ;-) and it seems to work, except for the error message below:
> > >
> > > W: GPG error: http://ftp.sunet.se etch Release: The following
> > > signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not
> > > available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
> > >
> > > Where do I import the public key from??? I have been digging around
> > > Sunet.se but can't seem to find it.
> >
> > The safest way to get Christian Marillat's key is to install the package
> > "debian-keyring". Then you can export the key directly from the Debian
> > keyring and feed it into apt-key:
> >
> > gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg
> > -a --export 07DC563D1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >   Florian
>
> Hi Florian,
>
> Here is the result:
>
> ~$ sudo gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring
> /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg -a --export 07DC563D1F41B907 |
> sudo apt-key add -
> gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file
> `/home/user/.gnupg/gpg.conf'
> gpg: keyring `/usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg' created
> gpg: WARNING: nothing exported
> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
>
> I am a newbie to Linux, so I really don't understand any of the above.
> Any ideas?

That command needs to be run as root.. :)


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Re: Media player

[Brian Durant]

On 11/30/06, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 16:00:05 +0100, Brian Durant wrote:
> On 11/30/06, Wulfy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[...]

> >Is your sources.list entry like this?:
> >
> >deb http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia/
> >etch main
>
> It is now ;-) and it seems to work, except for the error message below:
>
> W: GPG error: http://ftp.sunet.se etch Release: The following
> signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not
> available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
>
> Where do I import the public key from??? I have been digging around
> Sunet.se but can't seem to find it.

The safest way to get Christian Marillat's key is to install the package
"debian-keyring". Then you can export the key directly from the Debian
keyring and feed it into apt-key:

gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg -a 
--export 07DC563D1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -

--
Regards,
  Florian


Hi Florian,

Here is the result:

~$ sudo gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring
/usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg -a --export 07DC563D1F41B907 |
sudo apt-key add -
gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file
`/home/user/.gnupg/gpg.conf'
gpg: keyring `/usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg' created
gpg: WARNING: nothing exported
gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.

I am a newbie to Linux, so I really don't understand any of the above.
Any ideas?

Cheers,

Brian


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Re: Media player

[Florian Kulzer]

On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 16:00:05 +0100, Brian Durant wrote:
> On 11/30/06, Wulfy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[...]

> >Is your sources.list entry like this?:
> >
> >deb http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia/
> >etch main
> 
> It is now ;-) and it seems to work, except for the error message below:
> 
> W: GPG error: http://ftp.sunet.se etch Release: The following
> signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not
> available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
> 
> Where do I import the public key from??? I have been digging around
> Sunet.se but can't seem to find it.

The safest way to get Christian Marillat's key is to install the package
"debian-keyring". Then you can export the key directly from the Debian
keyring and feed it into apt-key:

gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg -a 
--export 07DC563D1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -

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Re: Media player

[Brian Durant]

On 11/30/06, Wulfy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Brian Durant wrote:
> On 11/29/06, Wulfy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Brian Durant wrote:
>> > On 11/29/06, matthew yee-king <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> Brian Durant wrote:
>> >> > On 11/29/06, Виталий Ищенко <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sarge main
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Sorry, I am a newbie. What would Etch be? deb
>> >> > ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch testing (???)
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> I have
>> >>
>> >> deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main
>> >>
>> >> mplayer seems to play the most different formats, esp when you
>> have the
>> >> w32codecs package installed. It's also very efficient. It can't fast
>> >> forward some avi files when you don't have the whole file though,
>> unlike
>> >> totem-xine. The mplayer plugin seems to work for realplayer
>> content e.g.
>> >> bbc as well. mplayer also supports streaming over rtsp.
>> >>
>> >> cheers
>> >>
>> >> - matthew
>> >
>> > Weird. It doesn't work for me:
>> >
>> > W: Couldn't stat source package list http://www.debian-multimedia.org
>> > etch/main Packages
>> >
>> 
(/var/lib/apt/lists/www.debian-multimedia.org_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages)
>>
>> >
>> > - stat (2 No such file or directory)
>> >
>> > I wonder what is going on? Is it my system or is it the repositories?
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Brian
>> The only time I see that message is either when I haven't updated (or
>> the update failed) after a change in sources.list...
>>
>> --
>> Blessings
>>
>> Wulfmann
>
> OK, maybe I am posting the wrong error message? Here is what I get
> after I update in Synaptic:
>
> 
http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia/dists/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz:
>
> 404 Not Found
>
> It looks to me like the path is correct, however I am a newbie so...
> am I doing something wrong?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brian
The error appears to be that there are two "dists" in the URL.  Only one
is needed:



Is your sources.list entry like this?:

deb http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia/
etch main


It is now ;-) and it seems to work, except for the error message below:

W: GPG error: http://ftp.sunet.se etch Release: The following
signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not
available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907

Where do I import the public key from??? I have been digging around
Sunet.se but can't seem to find it.

What about sources? I don't see a path for that on the site either. Do
I just make a line in my /etc/apt/sources.list that has the following?

deb-src http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia/
etch main

Cheers,

Brian

Re: Media player

[Mark Grieveson]

I got the following error message:

"W: Couldn't stat source package list http://www.debian-multimedia.org
etch/main Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/www.debian-multimedia.org_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages) 


- stat (2 No such file or directory)"

Cheers,

Brian 


If you just added this repository, you may simply need to update (aka 
"reload" if using synaptic).


Mark


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Re: Media player

[Mark Grieveson]

and/or a Debian version of EasyUbuntu: 


For Sarge, there was GenieOS, but I don't think a version of that has 
been released for Etch.  The other option is Knoppix, which is as close 
to "EasyDebian" as you're going to find.


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Re: Media player

[Alan Ianson]

On Wed November 29 2006 01:15 pm, Brian Durant wrote:
> On 11/29/06, Alan Ianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed November 29 2006 12:57 pm, Alan Ianson wrote:
> > > On Wed November 29 2006 12:41 pm, Brian Durant wrote:
> > > > On 11/29/06, matthew yee-king <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Brian Durant wrote:
> > > > > > On 11/29/06, Виталий Ищенко <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >> deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sarge main
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry, I am a newbie. What would Etch be? deb
> > > > > > ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch testing (???)
> > > > >
> > > > > I have
> > > > >
> > > > > deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main
> > > > >
> > > > > mplayer seems to play the most different formats, esp when you have
> > > > > the w32codecs package installed. It's also very efficient. It can't
> > > > > fast forward some avi files when you don't have the whole file
> > > > > though, unlike totem-xine. The mplayer plugin seems to work for
> > > > > realplayer content e.g. bbc as well. mplayer also supports
> > > > > streaming over rtsp.
> > > > >
> > > > > cheers
> > > > >
> > > > > - matthew
> > > >
> > > > Weird. It doesn't work for me:
> > > >
> > > > W: Couldn't stat source package list http://www.debian-multimedia.org
> > > > etch/main Packages
> > > > (/var/lib/apt/lists/www.debian-multimedia.org_dists_etch_main_binary-
> > > >i386 _P ackages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
> > > >
> > > > I wonder what is going on? Is it my system or is it the repositories?
> > >
> > > Hmm.. what if you remove the www. in front of debian-multimedia?
> >
> > Never mind that, the site says it should be there. Can you browse that
> > site (or one of the mirrors) with your browser?
>
> Here is the closest mirror to me:
>
> http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia/dists/etch
>/main/binary-i386/
>
> Does this look right?

Very close.. :) This is my debian-multimedia line from 
my /etc/apt/spurces.list..

deb http://debian-multimedia.dfoell.org/ testing main

> How should it read in the /etc/apt/sources.list file?

That's what it looks like for the mirror I use.

Re: Media player

[Wulfy]

Brian Durant wrote:

On 11/29/06, Wulfy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Brian Durant wrote:
> On 11/29/06, matthew yee-king <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Brian Durant wrote:
>> > On 11/29/06, Виталий Ищенко <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sarge main
>> >>
>>
>> > Sorry, I am a newbie. What would Etch be? deb
>> > ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch testing (???)
>> >
>>
>> I have
>>
>> deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main
>>
>> mplayer seems to play the most different formats, esp when you 
have the

>> w32codecs package installed. It's also very efficient. It can't fast
>> forward some avi files when you don't have the whole file though, 
unlike
>> totem-xine. The mplayer plugin seems to work for realplayer 
content e.g.

>> bbc as well. mplayer also supports streaming over rtsp.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> - matthew
>
> Weird. It doesn't work for me:
>
> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://www.debian-multimedia.org
> etch/main Packages
> 
(/var/lib/apt/lists/www.debian-multimedia.org_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages) 


>
> - stat (2 No such file or directory)
>
> I wonder what is going on? Is it my system or is it the repositories?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brian
The only time I see that message is either when I haven't updated (or
the update failed) after a change in sources.list...

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Blessings

Wulfmann


OK, maybe I am posting the wrong error message? Here is what I get
after I update in Synaptic:

http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia/dists/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 


404 Not Found

It looks to me like the path is correct, however I am a newbie so...
am I doing something wrong?

Cheers,

Brian
The error appears to be that there are two "dists" in the URL.  Only one 
is needed:




Is your sources.list entry like this?:

deb http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia/ 
etch main



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Re: Media player

[José Alburquerque]

Brian Durant wrote:

OK, maybe I am posting the wrong error message? Here is what I get
after I update in Synaptic:

http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia/dists/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 


404 Not Found

It looks to me like the path is correct, however I am a newbie so...
am I doing something wrong?

Cheers,

Brian

Maybe one of the other mirrors might work.  Have you looked at their list:
http://www.debian-multimedia.org/mirrors.html

Once there, click on the testing link for etch.  Each pair of lines 
refers to one mirror (one line is for binary and the other for source).


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Re: Media player

[Carl Fink]

On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 10:54:50PM +0100, Brian Durant wrote:

> http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia/dists/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz:
^^

Should "dists" be repeated like that?
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Re: Media player

[Brian Durant]

On 11/29/06, Wulfy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Brian Durant wrote:
> On 11/29/06, matthew yee-king <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Brian Durant wrote:
>> > On 11/29/06, Виталий Ищенко <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sarge main
>> >>
>>
>> > Sorry, I am a newbie. What would Etch be? deb
>> > ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch testing (???)
>> >
>>
>> I have
>>
>> deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main
>>
>> mplayer seems to play the most different formats, esp when you have the
>> w32codecs package installed. It's also very efficient. It can't fast
>> forward some avi files when you don't have the whole file though, unlike
>> totem-xine. The mplayer plugin seems to work for realplayer content e.g.
>> bbc as well. mplayer also supports streaming over rtsp.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> - matthew
>
> Weird. It doesn't work for me:
>
> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://www.debian-multimedia.org
> etch/main Packages
> 
(/var/lib/apt/lists/www.debian-multimedia.org_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages)
>
> - stat (2 No such file or directory)
>
> I wonder what is going on? Is it my system or is it the repositories?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brian
The only time I see that message is either when I haven't updated (or
the update failed) after a change in sources.list...

--
Blessings

Wulfmann


OK, maybe I am posting the wrong error message? Here is what I get
after I update in Synaptic:

http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia/dists/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz:
404 Not Found

It looks to me like the path is correct, however I am a newbie so...
am I doing something wrong?

Cheers,

Brian

Re: Media player

[Brian Durant]

On 11/29/06, Alan Ianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed November 29 2006 12:57 pm, Alan Ianson wrote:
> On Wed November 29 2006 12:41 pm, Brian Durant wrote:
> > On 11/29/06, matthew yee-king <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Brian Durant wrote:
> > > > On 11/29/06, Виталий Ищенко <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >> deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sarge main
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, I am a newbie. What would Etch be? deb
> > > > ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch testing (???)
> > >
> > > I have
> > >
> > > deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main
> > >
> > > mplayer seems to play the most different formats, esp when you have the
> > > w32codecs package installed. It's also very efficient. It can't fast
> > > forward some avi files when you don't have the whole file though,
> > > unlike totem-xine. The mplayer plugin seems to work for realplayer
> > > content e.g. bbc as well. mplayer also supports streaming over rtsp.
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > > - matthew
> >
> > Weird. It doesn't work for me:
> >
> > W: Couldn't stat source package list http://www.debian-multimedia.org
> > etch/main Packages
> > (/var/lib/apt/lists/www.debian-multimedia.org_dists_etch_main_binary-i386
> >_P ackages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
> >
> > I wonder what is going on? Is it my system or is it the repositories?
>
> Hmm.. what if you remove the www. in front of debian-multimedia?

Never mind that, the site says it should be there. Can you browse that site
(or one of the mirrors) with your browser?


Here is the closest mirror to me:

http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/

Does this look right?

How should it read in the /etc/apt/sources.list file?

Cheers,

Brian

Re: Media player

[Wulfy]

Brian Durant wrote:

On 11/29/06, matthew yee-king <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Brian Durant wrote:
> On 11/29/06, Виталий Ищенко <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sarge main
>>

> Sorry, I am a newbie. What would Etch be? deb
> ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch testing (???)
>

I have

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main

mplayer seems to play the most different formats, esp when you have the
w32codecs package installed. It's also very efficient. It can't fast
forward some avi files when you don't have the whole file though, unlike
totem-xine. The mplayer plugin seems to work for realplayer content e.g.
bbc as well. mplayer also supports streaming over rtsp.

cheers

- matthew


Weird. It doesn't work for me:

W: Couldn't stat source package list http://www.debian-multimedia.org
etch/main Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/www.debian-multimedia.org_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages) 


- stat (2 No such file or directory)

I wonder what is going on? Is it my system or is it the repositories?

Cheers,

Brian
The only time I see that message is either when I haven't updated (or 
the update failed) after a change in sources.list...


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Re: Media player

[Alan Ianson]

On Wed November 29 2006 12:57 pm, Alan Ianson wrote:
> On Wed November 29 2006 12:41 pm, Brian Durant wrote:
> > On 11/29/06, matthew yee-king <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Brian Durant wrote:
> > > > On 11/29/06, Виталий Ищенко <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >> deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sarge main
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, I am a newbie. What would Etch be? deb
> > > > ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch testing (???)
> > >
> > > I have
> > >
> > > deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main
> > >
> > > mplayer seems to play the most different formats, esp when you have the
> > > w32codecs package installed. It's also very efficient. It can't fast
> > > forward some avi files when you don't have the whole file though,
> > > unlike totem-xine. The mplayer plugin seems to work for realplayer
> > > content e.g. bbc as well. mplayer also supports streaming over rtsp.
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > > - matthew
> >
> > Weird. It doesn't work for me:
> >
> > W: Couldn't stat source package list http://www.debian-multimedia.org
> > etch/main Packages
> > (/var/lib/apt/lists/www.debian-multimedia.org_dists_etch_main_binary-i386
> >_P ackages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
> >
> > I wonder what is going on? Is it my system or is it the repositories?
>
> Hmm.. what if you remove the www. in front of debian-multimedia?

Never mind that, the site says it should be there. Can you browse that site 
(or one of the mirrors) with your browser?

Re: Media player

[Alan Ianson]

On Wed November 29 2006 12:41 pm, Brian Durant wrote:
> On 11/29/06, matthew yee-king <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Brian Durant wrote:
> > > On 11/29/06, Виталий Ищенко <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sarge main
> > >
> > > Sorry, I am a newbie. What would Etch be? deb
> > > ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch testing (???)
> >
> > I have
> >
> > deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main
> >
> > mplayer seems to play the most different formats, esp when you have the
> > w32codecs package installed. It's also very efficient. It can't fast
> > forward some avi files when you don't have the whole file though, unlike
> > totem-xine. The mplayer plugin seems to work for realplayer content e.g.
> > bbc as well. mplayer also supports streaming over rtsp.
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > - matthew
>
> Weird. It doesn't work for me:
>
> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://www.debian-multimedia.org
> etch/main Packages
> (/var/lib/apt/lists/www.debian-multimedia.org_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_P
>ackages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
>
> I wonder what is going on? Is it my system or is it the repositories?

Hmm.. what if you remove the www. in front of debian-multimedia?

Re: Media player

[Brian Durant]

On 11/29/06, matthew yee-king <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Brian Durant wrote:
> On 11/29/06, Виталий Ищенко <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sarge main
>>

> Sorry, I am a newbie. What would Etch be? deb
> ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch testing (???)
>

I have

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main

mplayer seems to play the most different formats, esp when you have the
w32codecs package installed. It's also very efficient. It can't fast
forward some avi files when you don't have the whole file though, unlike
totem-xine. The mplayer plugin seems to work for realplayer content e.g.
bbc as well. mplayer also supports streaming over rtsp.

cheers

- matthew


Weird. It doesn't work for me:

W: Couldn't stat source package list http://www.debian-multimedia.org
etch/main Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/www.debian-multimedia.org_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)

I wonder what is going on? Is it my system or is it the repositories?

Cheers,

Brian

Re: Media player

[matthew yee-king]

Brian Durant wrote:

On 11/29/06, Виталий Ищенко <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sarge main




Sorry, I am a newbie. What would Etch be? deb
ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch testing (???)



I have

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main

mplayer seems to play the most different formats, esp when you have the 
w32codecs package installed. It's also very efficient. It can't fast 
forward some avi files when you don't have the whole file though, unlike 
totem-xine. The mplayer plugin seems to work for realplayer content e.g. 
bbc as well. mplayer also supports streaming over rtsp.


cheers

- matthew





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Re: Media player

[Alan Ianson]

On Wed November 29 2006 11:49 am, Brian Durant wrote:
> On 11/29/06, Alan Ianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed November 29 2006 10:53 am, Brian Durant wrote:
> > > On 11/29/06, Alan Ianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On Wed November 29 2006 10:01 am, Brian Durant wrote:
> > > > > On 11/29/06, Виталий Ищенко <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > В Срд, 29/11/2006 в 18:37 +0100, Brian Durant пишет:
> > > > > > > Sorry, I am a newbie. What would Etch be? deb
> > > > > > > ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch testing (???)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brian
> > > > > >
> > > > > > no
> > > > > > deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main
> > > > >
> > > > > I got the following error message:
> > > > >
> > > > > "W: Couldn't stat source package list
> > > > > http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch/main Packages
> > > > > (/var/lib/apt/lists/www.debian-multimedia.org_dists_etch_main_binar
> > > > >y-i3 86_P ackages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)"
> > > >
> > > > I would try replacing etch with stable/testing/unstable, or use one
> > > > of the mirrors listed at http://debian-multimedia.org/mirrors.html
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, I have been there and done that. I can't get any of the
> > > mirrors near me to function, nor can I get anything with "testing". I
> > > get the same errors on all of them.
> >
> > Yep, I had to do a bit of adjusting to find a testing mirror for my amd64
> > machine. ATM I am using http://debian-multimedia.dfoell.org on this
> > stable box and it works well. I think I am using the same mirror on my
> > testing box but I'm not certain. Might have to try a few to get one that
> > has your arch and version of debian.
>
> See, that's the thing. Being a newbie, I am not really sure of the
> syntax. Is it something like this?
>
> deb http://debian-multimedia.dfoell.org/ testing main binary-i386
>
> I got errors from that line as well.

I think..

deb http://debian-multimedia.dfoell.org/ testing main

will do the trick. I just had a look at that web site and they have quite a 
few arch's there including i386 amd64 sparc and a few others for stable 
testing and unstable. No need for the binary-???, apt will handle that 
itself.. :)

Re: Media player

[Brian Durant]

On 11/29/06, Alan Ianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed November 29 2006 10:53 am, Brian Durant wrote:
> On 11/29/06, Alan Ianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed November 29 2006 10:01 am, Brian Durant wrote:
> > > On 11/29/06, Виталий Ищенко <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > В Срд, 29/11/2006 в 18:37 +0100, Brian Durant пишет:
> > > > > Sorry, I am a newbie. What would Etch be? deb
> > > > > ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch testing (???)
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Brian
> > > >
> > > > no
> > > > deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main
> > >
> > > I got the following error message:
> > >
> > > "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://www.debian-multimedia.org
> > > etch/main Packages
> > > (/var/lib/apt/lists/www.debian-multimedia.org_dists_etch_main_binary-i3
> > >86_P ackages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)"
> >
> > I would try replacing etch with stable/testing/unstable, or use one of
> > the mirrors listed at http://debian-multimedia.org/mirrors.html
>
> Unfortunately, I have been there and done that. I can't get any of the
> mirrors near me to function, nor can I get anything with "testing". I
> get the same errors on all of them.

Yep, I had to do a bit of adjusting to find a testing mirror for my amd64
machine. ATM I am using http://debian-multimedia.dfoell.org on this stable
box and it works well. I think I am using the same mirror on my testing box
but I'm not certain. Might have to try a few to get one that has your arch
and version of debian.


See, that's the thing. Being a newbie, I am not really sure of the
syntax. Is it something like this?

deb http://debian-multimedia.dfoell.org/ testing main binary-i386

I got errors from that line as well.

Cheers,

Brian

Re: Media player

[Alan Ianson]

On Wed November 29 2006 10:53 am, Brian Durant wrote:
> On 11/29/06, Alan Ianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed November 29 2006 10:01 am, Brian Durant wrote:
> > > On 11/29/06, Виталий Ищенко <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > В Срд, 29/11/2006 в 18:37 +0100, Brian Durant пишет:
> > > > > Sorry, I am a newbie. What would Etch be? deb
> > > > > ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch testing (???)
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Brian
> > > >
> > > > no
> > > > deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main
> > >
> > > I got the following error message:
> > >
> > > "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://www.debian-multimedia.org
> > > etch/main Packages
> > > (/var/lib/apt/lists/www.debian-multimedia.org_dists_etch_main_binary-i3
> > >86_P ackages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)"
> >
> > I would try replacing etch with stable/testing/unstable, or use one of
> > the mirrors listed at http://debian-multimedia.org/mirrors.html
>
> Unfortunately, I have been there and done that. I can't get any of the
> mirrors near me to function, nor can I get anything with "testing". I
> get the same errors on all of them.

Yep, I had to do a bit of adjusting to find a testing mirror for my amd64 
machine. ATM I am using http://debian-multimedia.dfoell.org on this stable 
box and it works well. I think I am using the same mirror on my testing box 
but I'm not certain. Might have to try a few to get one that has your arch 
and version of debian.

Re: Media player

[Brian Durant]

On 11/29/06, Alan Ianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed November 29 2006 10:01 am, Brian Durant wrote:
> On 11/29/06, Виталий Ищенко <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > В Срд, 29/11/2006 в 18:37 +0100, Brian Durant пишет:
> > > Sorry, I am a newbie. What would Etch be? deb
> > > ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch testing (???)
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Brian
> >
> > no
> > deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main
>
> I got the following error message:
>
> "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://www.debian-multimedia.org
> etch/main Packages
> (/var/lib/apt/lists/www.debian-multimedia.org_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_P
>ackages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)"

I would try replacing etch with stable/testing/unstable, or use one of the
mirrors listed at http://debian-multimedia.org/mirrors.html


Unfortunately, I have been there and done that. I can't get any of the
mirrors near me to function, nor can I get anything with "testing". I
get the same errors on all of them.

Cheers,

Brian

Re: Media player

[Alan Ianson]

On Wed November 29 2006 10:01 am, Brian Durant wrote:
> On 11/29/06, Виталий Ищенко <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > В Срд, 29/11/2006 в 18:37 +0100, Brian Durant пишет:
> > > Sorry, I am a newbie. What would Etch be? deb
> > > ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch testing (???)
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Brian
> >
> > no
> > deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main
>
> I got the following error message:
>
> "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://www.debian-multimedia.org
> etch/main Packages
> (/var/lib/apt/lists/www.debian-multimedia.org_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_P
>ackages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)"

I would try replacing etch with stable/testing/unstable, or use one of the 
mirrors listed at http://debian-multimedia.org/mirrors.html

Re: Media player

[Brian Durant]

On 11/29/06, Виталий Ищенко <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

В Срд, 29/11/2006 в 18:37 +0100, Brian Durant пишет:
> Sorry, I am a newbie. What would Etch be? deb
> ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch testing (???)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brian
>
no
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main


I got the following error message:

"W: Couldn't stat source package list http://www.debian-multimedia.org
etch/main Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/www.debian-multimedia.org_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)"

Cheers,

Brian

Re: Media player

[Carl Fink]

On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 09:14:35AM -0800, Alan Ianson wrote:

> On Wed November 29 2006 07:44 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > I've solved my problem on apt-get...simply reading how to on Debian site,
> > sorry. Now, I would like to have a media player for video streaming on my
> > debian pc ...

> This is Christian Marillat's debian archive, it's moved now to 
> http://debian-multimedia.org

Just to answer the original question, players available for Debian include
mplayer, gmplayer, totem-xine, totem-gstreamer, xine-ui, and vlc.  I tend to
use totem-xine.  On the other hand, for embedded web video I use the mplayer
plugin for Firefox.

The semi-free RealPlayer is also available as Helix Player, but I believe
the current version still only plays Real formats. The next release is a
more general media player.
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Re: Media player

[Brian Durant]

On 11/29/06, Виталий Ищенко <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sarge main

В Срд, 29/11/2006 в 16:44 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] пишет:
> Dear all,
> I've solved my problem on apt-get...simply reading how to on Debian site, 
sorry.
> Now, I would like to have a media player for video streaming on my debian pc, 
how can i do?
> I have found this http://www.bxlug.be/articles/129
> Trying add this
> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main
> in sources.list file and doing apt-get update then apt-get realplayer, it 
doen't work...
> Can you help me?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Carmelo


Sorry, I am a newbie. What would Etch be? deb
ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch testing (???)

Cheers,

Brian

Re: Media player

[Виталий Ищенко]

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sarge main

В Срд, 29/11/2006 в 16:44 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] пишет:
> Dear all,
> I've solved my problem on apt-get...simply reading how to on Debian site, 
> sorry.
> Now, I would like to have a media player for video streaming on my debian pc, 
> how can i do?
> I have found this http://www.bxlug.be/articles/129
> Trying add this
> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main
> in sources.list file and doing apt-get update then apt-get realplayer, it 
> doen't work...
> Can you help me?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Carmelo
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 

Re: Media player

[Alan Ianson]

On Wed November 29 2006 07:44 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Dear all,
> I've solved my problem on apt-get...simply reading how to on Debian site,
> sorry. Now, I would like to have a media player for video streaming on my
> debian pc, how can i do? I have found this http://www.bxlug.be/articles/129

Not sure about this one.

> Trying add this
> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main
> in sources.list file and doing apt-get update then apt-get realplayer, it
> doen't work... Can you help me?

This is Christian Marillat's debian archive, it's moved now to 
http://debian-multimedia.org


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Re: Media player

[Brian Durant]

I have been experiencing similar problems with Debian Etch (rc1)
repositories mentioned at Debian Help: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/

It sure would be nice if there was a Debian version of this
"source-o-matic" sources.list generator:

http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic

and/or a Debian version of EasyUbuntu:

http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/index.html

and/or Automatix2: http://www.getautomatix.com/

I don't know if the repositories have been taken off line or if the
structure of the repositories has been changed since the howtos were
made. Very frustrating.

Cheers,

Brian

On 11/29/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dear all,
I've solved my problem on apt-get...simply reading how to on Debian site, sorry.
Now, I would like to have a media player for video streaming on my debian pc, 
how can i do?
I have found this http://www.bxlug.be/articles/129
Trying add this
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main
in sources.list file and doing apt-get update then apt-get realplayer, it 
doen't work...
Can you help me?

Thanks in advance
Carmelo



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