Memory leak - somewhere :)

2003-03-20 Thread Jeetu Golani
Hello ppl,

I have a Debian 3.0 installation on my P4 2.2 512MB with 256MB Swap system. I 
use KDE 3.1.

For sometime, I've been feeling that there's a memory leak in one of the apps 
because after quite a few days of use KDE becomes slow. Apps I typically use 
are KMail,Konqueror,KMerlin,Konsole,K3B.

I've noticed that memory seems to be consumed at an alarmingly huge rate. 
Sometimes about 300MB+ gets used up overnight inspite of no additional 
programs being run. For e.g. if with a clean boot into KDE I have 300MB of 
free Physical memory left (as displayed by free) and the whole swap free then 
the next morning I may see just 5MB of Physical memory free and the Swap used 
to a degree.

I thought it could be KDE or artsd or some such component/app and I kept 
rebooting my system with one less program running each time i.e. i'd turn on 
KDE and not switch on KMail and see how it performs and next time wouldn't 
switch on KMail and K3b,etc.did this till i basically had a bare KDE 
session running but the memory usage issue continued.

I therefore thought it may be X and I just put a # in the 
default-display-manager file in /etc/X11, therefore since there's no default 
manager I just get a message stating that at bootup and X doesn't come up.

If I do a free in succession with just this much I notice that my memory is 
going down at a rate of 8KB each successive reduction.this is most of the 
time...although sometimes reductions can be of different sizes.

I can't make much of it.is this normal?? doesn't look like it 
should.since I'm basically not turning on any programs...therefore 
something seems to be up...any help on either clarifying my understanding 
on the above or tracing the rogue program would be appreciatedhas neone 
else noticed something similar.

Thanks
Bye


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Re: Memory leak - somewhere :)

2003-03-20 Thread Gary Hennigan
Jeetu Golani [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I have a Debian 3.0 installation on my P4 2.2 512MB with 256MB Swap
 system. I use KDE 3.1.
 
 For sometime, I've been feeling that there's a memory leak in one of
 the apps because after quite a few days of use KDE becomes
 slow. Apps I typically use are KMail,Konqueror,KMerlin,Konsole,K3B.
 
 I've noticed that memory seems to be consumed at an alarmingly huge
 rate.  Sometimes about 300MB+ gets used up overnight inspite of no
 additional programs being run. For e.g. if with a clean boot into
 KDE I have 300MB of free Physical memory left (as displayed by free)
 and the whole swap free then the next morning I may see just 5MB of
 Physical memory free and the Swap used to a degree.
 
 I thought it could be KDE or artsd or some such component/app and I
 kept rebooting my system with one less program running each time
 i.e. i'd turn on KDE and not switch on KMail and see how it performs
 and next time wouldn't switch on KMail and K3b,etc.did this till
 i basically had a bare KDE session running but the memory usage
 issue continued.
 
 I therefore thought it may be X and I just put a # in the
 default-display-manager file in /etc/X11, therefore since there's no
 default manager I just get a message stating that at bootup and X
 doesn't come up.
 
 If I do a free in succession with just this much I notice that my
 memory is going down at a rate of 8KB each successive
 reduction.this is most of the time...although sometimes
 reductions can be of different sizes.
 
 I can't make much of it.is this normal?? doesn't look like it
 should.since I'm basically not turning on any
 programs...therefore something seems to be up...any help on
 either clarifying my understanding on the above or tracing the rogue
 program would be appreciatedhas neone else noticed something
 similar.

This has got to be in a FAQ somewhere. In all my years of using Linux
and reading mailing lists and Usenet I've seen this question more than
any other. Anyway...

Linux allocates all free memory for disk cache. If an application
requests memory and all of it is being used by the disk cache then
Linux frees up some of the memory being used by the disk cache for the
application. On a healthy system, that you've been using for a while,
you should have very little free memory.

That doesn't mean you don't have something that's leaking memory, it
just means you'll have to look harder to find out if there is indeed
something sucking up memory.

Gary


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Re: Memory leak - somewhere :)

2003-03-20 Thread nate
Jeetu Golani said:

 I can't make much of it.is this normal?? doesn't look like it
 should.since I'm basically not turning on any programs...therefore
 something seems to be up...any help on either clarifying my
 understanding  on the above or tracing the rogue program would be
 appreciatedhas neone  else noticed something similar.

try running 'top' and while in top press the 'M' key that will sort
the processes by memory usage.

also it would help, when your system is dug deep into swap run:

ps auxw ~/ps.log

and include that in your next message(preferably post it on a web
or ftp site).

nate




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Re: Memory leak - somewhere :)

2003-03-20 Thread David Z Maze
Jeetu Golani [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 For sometime, I've been feeling that there's a memory leak in one of
 the apps because after quite a few days of use KDE becomes
 slow. Apps I typically use are KMail,Konqueror,KMerlin,Konsole,K3B.

 I've noticed that memory seems to be consumed at an alarmingly huge
 rate. Sometimes about 300MB+ gets used up overnight inspite of no
 additional programs being run. For e.g. if with a clean boot into
 KDE I have 300MB of free Physical memory left (as displayed by free)
 and the whole swap free then the next morning I may see just 5MB of
 Physical memory free and the Swap used to a degree.

You could post the output of 'free' that causes you to believe that.
Or read a Linux FAQ, any one, it doesn't matter: Linux considers it
better to use memory to improve performance (e.g. by doing disk
caching) than just let it sit idle, so you'll typically have very
little physical memory free without the system performance being
degraded at all.

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