Re: Message for Dale Scheetz and sendmail question for list

1997-05-13 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Sun, 11 May 1997, Rick Jones wrote:

 You should see something like the following in
 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf:
 
 # Alias for this host
 Cw

I have:

Cwbraincells.com


 # Virtual email domain
 # who I masquerade as (null for no masquerading)
 DMyourdomain.com

I have:

# who I masquerade as (null for no masquerading) (see also $=M)
DMbraincells.com


 # Smart host
 DSmail.yourISP.net

I have:


 # Use this mailer to reach the Smart host
 DNesmtp

The only line I have that begins with Dn is:

# my name for error messages
DnMAILER-DAEMON

The only line that mentions esmtp is:

# SMTP daemon options
#O DaemonPortOptions=Port=esmtp

As you can see, it's commented out.

# Smart relay host (may be null)
DS

Hmm...what is a smart host anyway?  As far as I know my mail comes
directly to braincells.com not forwarded from the upstream ISP.

 # Central host for local mail
 DHlocalhost
 

I have:

# who gets all local email traffic ($R has precedence for unqualified
names)
DH

Is any of this significant?  Thanks for your help.

-- Jaldhar



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Re: Message for Dale Scheetz and sendmail question for list

1997-05-13 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas

On Mon, 12 May 1997, Nicola Bernardelli wrote:

 (I think I'm not giving any help... anyway:)
 
 I've left it blank but it uses smail (pine 3.95q, Debian 1.2.4), not
 sendmail... or better: 1) I have smail installed and not sendmail, 2) 
 that field in pine configuration is blank, 3) changing configuration of
 smail DOES change the results, both for local delivery and for mail to be
 sent over the Internet via dialup PPP to my ISP.
 

As Rick says, pine actually calls sendmail which in your case is symlinked
to smail.  So I think sendmail is the cause of my problem not pine.
Though I do think it is suspicious this only occurred after I upgraded
pine...

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Re: Message for Dale Scheetz and sendmail question for list

1997-05-12 Thread Nicola Bernardelli
On Sun, 11 May 1997, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:

 # List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses sendmail.
 smtp-server=
 
 I've left it blank.  So I think sendmail is where my problem lies.


(I think I'm not giving any help... anyway:)

I've left it blank but it uses smail (pine 3.95q, Debian 1.2.4), not
sendmail... or better: 1) I have smail installed and not sendmail, 2) 
that field in pine configuration is blank, 3) changing configuration of
smail DOES change the results, both for local delivery and for mail to be
sent over the Internet via dialup PPP to my ISP.

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Re: Message for Dale Scheetz and sendmail question for list

1997-05-12 Thread Rick Jones
On Mon, 12 May 1997, Nicola Bernardelli wrote:

 I've left it blank but it uses smail (pine 3.95q, Debian 1.2.4), not
 sendmail... or better: 1) I have smail installed and not sendmail, 2) 
 that field in pine configuration is blank, 3) changing configuration of
 smail DOES change the results, both for local delivery and for mail to be
 sent over the Internet via dialup PPP to my ISP.

This is because the install setsup a link from sendmail to smail.  So pine
calls sendamil and actually gets smail.


--Rick

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Message for Dale Scheetz and sendmail question for list

1997-05-11 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas

Dale, 

Sorry for sending this to the whole list but when I tried replying to your
mail to me about the pine bug (btw I had a lot of swap space free so that
wasn't it but I think the problem is solved now anyway.) I got:

501: HELO Requires Domain Address

and sure enough I'm sending out 

HELO

instead of:

HELO braincells.com

This has never happened before. I think one of three things may have
caused it.

1.) This new version of pine.  In which case is this a bug or do I have to
configure something?

2.) Your sendmail isn't as lax as others and doesn't accept a plain HELO.
In which case I probably need something in my sendmail.cf to enable HELO
domain name.  Does anyone know what that would be?

3.) My sendmail is misconfigured in which case the solution would be the
same as 2.

Am I on the right track?  Any clue would be appreciated.

-- Jaldhar 





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Re: Message for Dale Scheetz and sendmail question for list

1997-05-11 Thread Rick Jones

Sounds like you don't have a domain set in sendmail config file.  Pine
would have nothing to do with this particular error since it uses the
local transport (normally).  

You could also insure that you do have localhost set as smtp host in pine
setup.  If you have your ISP's host set in pine as smtp host then it is
pine.  In that case either change it to localhost or insure the domain is
set just above that entry, I belive.

I haven't seen the entire thread, but I hope this helps.

On Sun, 11 May 1997, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:

 501: HELO Requires Domain Address
 
 and sure enough I'm sending out 
 
 HELO
 
 instead of:
 
 HELO braincells.com
 
 This has never happened before. I think one of three things may have
 caused it.
 
 1.) This new version of pine.  In which case is this a bug or do I have to
 configure something?
 
 2.) Your sendmail isn't as lax as others and doesn't accept a plain HELO.
 In which case I probably need something in my sendmail.cf to enable HELO
 domain name.  Does anyone know what that would be?
 
 3.) My sendmail is misconfigured in which case the solution would be the
 same as 2.
 
 Am I on the right track?  Any clue would be appreciated.
 
 -- Jaldhar 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Message for Dale Scheetz and sendmail question for list

1997-05-11 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas

 
 Sounds like you don't have a domain set in sendmail config file.  

Ok, I thought as much.  How do I change it?  I tried running
/usr/sbin/sendmailconfig again but that didn't help.  And one look at the
size of the O'Reilly sendmail book was enough to put the fear of God in
me!

 Pine
 would have nothing to do with this particular error since it uses the
 local transport (normally).  
 
 You could also insure that you do have localhost set as smtp host in pine
 setup.  If you have your ISP's host set in pine as smtp host then it is
 pine.  In that case either change it to localhost or insure the domain is
 set just above that entry, I belive.
 

Theres a line in pine.conf that says:

# List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses sendmail.
smtp-server=

I've left it blank.  So I think sendmail is where my problem lies.

-- Jaldhar



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Re: Message for Dale Scheetz and sendmail question for list

1997-05-11 Thread Rick Jones
On Sun, 11 May 1997, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:

  Sounds like you don't have a domain set in sendmail config file.  
 
 Ok, I thought as much.  How do I change it?  I tried running
 /usr/sbin/sendmailconfig again but that didn't help.  And one look at the
 size of the O'Reilly sendmail book was enough to put the fear of God in
 me!

Pines squared away.  You should see something like the following in
/etc/mail/sendmail.cf:

# Alias for this host
Cw
# Virtual email domain
# who I masquerade as (null for no masquerading)
DMyourdomain.com
# Smart host
DSmail.yourISP.net
# Use this mailer to reach the Smart host
DNesmtp
# Central host for local mail
DHlocalhost



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