Re: Microsoft Mouse
Does anyone know if it is possible to get a micrsoft mouse (the on with the wheel) to act as a 3 button mouse? As under windows 95/nt the wheel can also be used as a third button. Yes, it is possible. Just choose the MS protocol and then ask to have the middle button enabled, with *no* middle button emulation. Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra http://www.lge.com.br./[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terravista.pt./Enseada/1989/ BRASIL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Microsoft Mouse
Hi, Does anyone know if it is possible to get a micrsoft mouse (the on with the wheel) to act as a 3 button mouse? As under windows 95/nt the wheel can also be used as a third button. Regards Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Microsoft mouse in X11
=== Timm Gleason wrote: Check the bottom of your Microsoft mouse. If it is a version 2.1 or higher, you have become the victim of the Microsoft behemoth. For some reason, which has yet to be adequately explained, the MS Mice above version 2.0 do not work with the newest versions of XFree. I have dissected many a mouse and still have no answers. Microsoft is apparently now in the business of making Windows Only hardware. Still it works fine using gpm in text mode. http://www.xfree86.org/FAQ/index.html#MSMouse21A I just had a glimpse at my mouse: Mouse Port Compatible Mouse 2.1A Microsoft Corporation - Made in China FCC ID: C3KKMP3 --- 5V 20mA Works fine with debian 1.3.1 , both in text mode (with gpm) and in X (with or without gpm) Does this mean i am going to have problems with hamm ? Gabor Kontur [EMAIL PROTECTED] === -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Microsoft mouse in X11
Check the bottom of your Microsoft mouse. If it is a version 2.1 or higher, you have become the victim of the Microsoft behemoth. For some reason, which has yet to be adequately explained, the MS Mice above version 2.0 do not work with the newest versions of XFree. I have dissected many a mouse and still have no answers. Microsoft is apparently now in the business of making Windows Only hardware. Still it works fine using gpm in text mode. http://www.xfree86.org/FAQ/index.html#MSMouse21A Timm Gleason Hardware Engineer -Original Message- From: Paul Bernays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 1998 7:50 PM To: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' Subject: Microsoft mouse in X11 Okay, I'm a complete beginner in Linux and I really need help in trying to configure the X-windows system. I can't configure the mouse to work at all. I read on XFree's site that I needed to download the gpm1-13 package and use the mouseman protocol. Unfortunately, this requires libc6. I already have libc5 installed, and libc6 conflicts with this package. However, libc5 is required by too many other packages. Do I have to upgrade the libc5 package? How do I work around this problem? I should also add that the libc6 and gpm1-13 packages were from the unstable catagory, whereas the libc5 package was a stable one. Could this be a problem? Any help anyone can give would be much appreciated. Paul Bernays -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Microsoft mouse in X11
Okay, I'm a complete beginner in Linux and I really need help in trying to configure the X-windows system. I can't configure the mouse to work at all. I read on XFree's site that I needed to download the gpm1-13 package and use the mouseman protocol. Unfortunately, this requires libc6. I already have libc5 installed, and libc6 conflicts with this package. However, libc5 is required by too many other packages. Do I have to upgrade the libc5 package? How do I work around this problem? I should also add that the libc6 and gpm1-13 packages were from the unstable catagory, whereas the libc5 package was a stable one. Could this be a problem? Which version of XFree are you using ? I think that the one from bo (debian 1.3.1) will not need the gpm package. And, more important, both it and gpm will work with libc5. However: 1) If you have a newly hardware which is not comptiable with older one, then bo's XFree might not work. 2) Linux is going to use libc6 as its standard C library. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Microsoft mouse in X11
Okay, I'm a complete beginner in Linux and I really need help in trying to configure the X-windows system. I can't configure the mouse to work at all. I read on XFree's site that I needed to download the gpm1-13 package and use the mouseman protocol. Unfortunately, this requires libc6. I already have libc5 installed, and libc6 conflicts with this package. However, libc5 is required by too many other packages. Do I have to upgrade the libc5 package? How do I work around this problem? I should also add that the libc6 and gpm1-13 packages were from the unstable catagory, whereas the libc5 package was a stable one. Could this be a problem? Any help anyone can give would be much appreciated. Paul Bernays -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Microsoft mouse in X11
On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Paul Bernays wrote: Okay, I'm a complete beginner in Linux and I really need help in trying to configure the X-windows system. I can't configure the mouse to work at all. What have you tried to do? Did you run XF86Setup (included in the package xserver-vga16)? The XF86Setup program is a graphical utility that lets you choose different types of mice and try if it suits your hardware. If you have a standard Microsoft mouse then that should be easy, as it is the default setting. If there is something weird with the mouse and you can't get it working within 30 minutes, consider going to the shops and buying a cheap 3-button mouse. These things will almost always work as Microsoft mouse. The small amonut of money will almost certainly be worth the time you'll save. As a beginner, you're making much better use of your time reading eg. the bash manpage than all the more technical xfree86 docs. Oh, another tip: Ctrl-Alt-keypad minus and Ctrl-Alt-keypad plus change the resolution of the xserver (when it is running). You can also make a certain mode the default by putting it in front of the line in /etc/XF86Config that lists the modes. I read on XFree's site that I needed to download the gpm1-13 package and use the mouseman protocol. Unfortunately, this requires libc6. I already have libc5 installed, and libc6 conflicts with this package. However, libc5 is required by too many other packages. Do I have to upgrade the libc5 package? How do I work around this problem? Two things: - gpm is the textmode mouse driver; you should almost never have to use it to get the mouse working in X11. If you have a mouse that is badly supported by X11, get a new one unless you're quite a bit of a guru. - stay with libc5 for a while until 2.0 is out. 2.0 will only be released when the upgrade mechanism from libc5 to libc6 is working under all circumstances. Right now there are still some problems that you might encounter when you upgrade. I should also add that the libc6 and gpm1-13 packages were from the unstable catagory, whereas the libc5 package was a stable one. Could this be a problem? Yes, quite definately so. You'd have to install a lot of new packages, essentially you would relace the guts of your system. It is better to wait a month until a fully automated mechanism is provided. In the mean time, there is nothing wrong with libc5-based Debian 1.3. It is very stable and you should be able to get things working fine with it. Some more tips: Install the package dwww; it is an interface to the documentation, manpages and info documents that come with Debian packages. You'll also need to install apache (a web server) and lynx (a web browser) to use it. In X11 you can use Netscape instead of lynx, but it is bulkier and slower and there are no pretty pictures or javascript in dwww anyway. If you run X11, install the package menu. It automatically puts pacages that you install in the window-manager's (try fvwm2 for starters) menu. You should also consider buying a book about Linux, like Running Linux by Matt Welsh or the book about Debian written by Dale Scheetz titled Debian Linux user's guide. Both can also be read online, the latter one can be found at www.linuxpress.com O'Reilly has a variety of linux and unix oriented books. I can recommend Linux in a nutshell and Learning the bash shell. Cheers, Joost -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Microsoft mouse in X11
Hi, I have also had some problems with my mouse. Even that I'm a novice in Linux, maybe this helps: Using the XF86Setup I have choosed the MouseSystem mouse with ClearDTR. This way my mouse works very well and I can use all the 3 buttons of it. Other problem that I have had was that, if I have used the -R option in gpm, my mouse froze under X, and the only way to make it work again was to unload the gpm from memory. And one tip from me, too: use $ startx -- -bpp 16 to start to X in 16 bit mode (or with -bpp 24, for true color). Ionutz On Friday, March 20, 1998 5:50 AM, Paul Bernays [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I'm a complete beginner in Linux and I really need help in trying to configure the X-windows system. I can't configure the mouse to work at all. I read on XFree's site that I needed to download the gpm1-13 package and use the mouseman protocol. Unfortunately, this requires libc6. I already have libc5 installed, and libc6 conflicts with this package. However, libc5 is required by too many other packages. Do I have to upgrade the libc5 package? How do I work around this problem? I should also add that the libc6 and gpm1-13 packages were from the unstable catagory, whereas the libc5 package was a stable one. Could this be a problem? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Microsoft mouse in X11
On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Ionut Borcoman wrote: Using the XF86Setup I have choosed the MouseSystem mouse with ClearDTR. This way my mouse works very well and I can use all the 3 buttons of it. If you buy a cheap Logitech or Genius mouse, those are only slightly more expensive than the bottm=om-line noname rodents, you'll probably have no problems to get the 3rd button to work by default. Maybe it is the ClearDTR directive that fscks up gpm. If you can only find the noname mice, there is a way with many of those to make them talk mousesystems instead of microsoft. It involves soldering one of the pins of the ic inside the mouse to 0V or +5V (I forget which one exactly.) There used to be a 3-button mouse mini-HOWTO that describes this. And one tip from me, too: use $ startx -- -bpp 16 to start to X in 16 bit mode (or with -bpp 24, for true color). Or add DefaultDepth 16 to /etc/XF86Config Cheers, Joost -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
