Re: More acroread printing problems

2010-06-16 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 16:46 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
 On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 16:41 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
  Hello, all.  With the appreciate help from this list, we finally learned
  we needed to install Acrobat Reader version 9.3.2 from unstable into our
  Lenny systems in order for Acrobat to see our CUPS printers.  However we
  are still having problems printing anything other than letter size jobs.
  It looks like acroread is creating an lpr command using the -o
  PageRegion and setting that option incorrectly.  For example, in one
  case we saw -o PageSize=11x17 -p PageRegion=Letter which printed the
  11x17 print job on letter sized paper.  On a plotter we saw -o
  PageSize=24x36 -p PageRegion=A4 which resulted in the plotter rejecting
  the job as an invalid page size.  Bypassing the Acroread print command
  by using a Custom printer and sending the job to KPrinter works so this
  seems to be a clear bug in how Acrobat is reading the PPD file and
  creating the print command.
  
  Has anyone else encountered this problem? Is there a workaround? If not,
  I suppose I'll need to figure out how one reports bugs for acroread to
  Adobe.  Thanks - John
  
  
 Oops! typing a little too fast.  That's appreciated help and the
 PageRegion is preceded by -o and not -p - John
 
 
An upgrade to libcups2 solved the problem.  We are running Lenny which
uses libcups2 1.3.8.  We upgraded to libcups2 1.4.3 from Squeeze and it
solved the problem.  We still have a similar problem when printing from
Acrobat Standard on Windows via a CUPS print server.  On to that problem
next - John


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Re: More acroread printing problems

2010-05-06 Thread deloptes
John A. Sullivan III wrote:

 PageSize=24x36 -p PageRegion=A4

so you mean from cups or from AcroRead it's setting the option -p
PageRegion=A4 by default?

 /etc/papersize ? what about this one

What if you use the Other size option in the acroread printing interface
and setup the given size manually?

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Re: More acroread printing problems

2010-05-06 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 15:54 +0200, deloptes wrote:
 John A. Sullivan III wrote:
 
  PageSize=24x36 -p PageRegion=A4
 
 so you mean from cups or from AcroRead it's setting the option -p
 PageRegion=A4 by default?
acroread is setting -o PageRegion=(whatever the ppd default is) (sorry
about the -p - that was a typo on my part).
 
  /etc/papersize ? what about this one
 
 What if you use the Other size option in the acroread printing interface
 and setup the given size manually?
No matter what we enter including custom sizes, the -o PageSize= is set
properly but PageRegion= is set to the default.  Thanks - John
 
 regards
 
 


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More acroread printing problems

2010-05-05 Thread John A. Sullivan III
Hello, all.  With the appreciate help from this list, we finally learned
we needed to install Acrobat Reader version 9.3.2 from unstable into our
Lenny systems in order for Acrobat to see our CUPS printers.  However we
are still having problems printing anything other than letter size jobs.
It looks like acroread is creating an lpr command using the -o
PageRegion and setting that option incorrectly.  For example, in one
case we saw -o PageSize=11x17 -p PageRegion=Letter which printed the
11x17 print job on letter sized paper.  On a plotter we saw -o
PageSize=24x36 -p PageRegion=A4 which resulted in the plotter rejecting
the job as an invalid page size.  Bypassing the Acroread print command
by using a Custom printer and sending the job to KPrinter works so this
seems to be a clear bug in how Acrobat is reading the PPD file and
creating the print command.

Has anyone else encountered this problem? Is there a workaround? If not,
I suppose I'll need to figure out how one reports bugs for acroread to
Adobe.  Thanks - John


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Re: More acroread printing problems

2010-05-05 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 16:41 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
 Hello, all.  With the appreciate help from this list, we finally learned
 we needed to install Acrobat Reader version 9.3.2 from unstable into our
 Lenny systems in order for Acrobat to see our CUPS printers.  However we
 are still having problems printing anything other than letter size jobs.
 It looks like acroread is creating an lpr command using the -o
 PageRegion and setting that option incorrectly.  For example, in one
 case we saw -o PageSize=11x17 -p PageRegion=Letter which printed the
 11x17 print job on letter sized paper.  On a plotter we saw -o
 PageSize=24x36 -p PageRegion=A4 which resulted in the plotter rejecting
 the job as an invalid page size.  Bypassing the Acroread print command
 by using a Custom printer and sending the job to KPrinter works so this
 seems to be a clear bug in how Acrobat is reading the PPD file and
 creating the print command.
 
 Has anyone else encountered this problem? Is there a workaround? If not,
 I suppose I'll need to figure out how one reports bugs for acroread to
 Adobe.  Thanks - John
 
 
Oops! typing a little too fast.  That's appreciated help and the
PageRegion is preceded by -o and not -p - John


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Re: More acroread printing problems

2010-05-05 Thread deloptes
John A. Sullivan III wrote:

 On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 16:41 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
 Hello, all.  With the appreciate help from this list, we finally learned
 we needed to install Acrobat Reader version 9.3.2 from unstable into our
 Lenny systems in order for Acrobat to see our CUPS printers.  However we
 are still having problems printing anything other than letter size jobs.
 It looks like acroread is creating an lpr command using the -o
 PageRegion and setting that option incorrectly.  For example, in one
 case we saw -o PageSize=11x17 -p PageRegion=Letter which printed the
 11x17 print job on letter sized paper.  On a plotter we saw -o
 PageSize=24x36 -p PageRegion=A4 which resulted in the plotter rejecting

you have to use sizes supported by the plotter, no?

 the job as an invalid page size.  Bypassing the Acroread print command
 by using a Custom printer and sending the job to KPrinter works so this
 seems to be a clear bug in how Acrobat is reading the PPD file and
 creating the print command.

KPrinter or gnome printer have their own rendering engines to translate to
printer language (as far as I know).

 
 Has anyone else encountered this problem? Is there a workaround? If not,
 I suppose I'll need to figure out how one reports bugs for acroread to
 Adobe.  Thanks - John

I had a lot of headache years ago. We finally upgraded the firmmemory on one
of the printers that was printing junk in certain cases. It took about 2
weeks to find out and a lot of paper. Luckily we had 3 from the same model
and we noticed on the other 2 one and the same document was printed fine
but on the 3rd one it was failing. That much on commercial software...

 
 
 Oops! typing a little too fast.  That's appreciated help and the
 PageRegion is preceded by -o and not -p - John

I'm not sure that the AcroReader on the client knows the PPD on the server.
Did you install on both the same ppd? I'm also not sure that it is using it
at all to create the printable. I think it's the cups server that can not
prepare the printable for the printer.

You can try using the ppds from the plotters manufacturer. This was very
useful approach in many cases.

Also I would try printing the same document from Adobe on Windows or Mac.

regards




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Re: More acroread printing problems

2010-05-05 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 01:57 +0200, deloptes wrote:
 John A. Sullivan III wrote:
 
  On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 16:41 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
  Hello, all.  With the appreciate help from this list, we finally learned
  we needed to install Acrobat Reader version 9.3.2 from unstable into our
  Lenny systems in order for Acrobat to see our CUPS printers.  However we
  are still having problems printing anything other than letter size jobs.
  It looks like acroread is creating an lpr command using the -o
  PageRegion and setting that option incorrectly.  For example, in one
  case we saw -o PageSize=11x17 -p PageRegion=Letter which printed the
  11x17 print job on letter sized paper.  On a plotter we saw -o
  PageSize=24x36 -p PageRegion=A4 which resulted in the plotter rejecting
 
 you have to use sizes supported by the plotter, no?
Yes, exactly.  We told acroread that the page size was 24x36 - a
supported size.  It sent an A4 size print job.
 
  the job as an invalid page size.  Bypassing the Acroread print command
  by using a Custom printer and sending the job to KPrinter works so this
  seems to be a clear bug in how Acrobat is reading the PPD file and
  creating the print command.
 
 KPrinter or gnome printer have their own rendering engines to translate to
 printer language (as far as I know).
 
  
  Has anyone else encountered this problem? Is there a workaround? If not,
  I suppose I'll need to figure out how one reports bugs for acroread to
  Adobe.  Thanks - John
 
 I had a lot of headache years ago. We finally upgraded the firmmemory on one
 of the printers that was printing junk in certain cases. It took about 2
 weeks to find out and a lot of paper. Luckily we had 3 from the same model
 and we noticed on the other 2 one and the same document was printed fine
 but on the 3rd one it was failing. That much on commercial software...
 
I don't think this is a printer issue as it breaks on each of the
several printers we tried and, when it did not break, it was still
sending the wrong paper size.
  
  
  Oops! typing a little too fast.  That's appreciated help and the
  PageRegion is preceded by -o and not -p - John
 
 I'm not sure that the AcroReader on the client knows the PPD on the server.
 Did you install on both the same ppd? I'm also not sure that it is using it
 at all to create the printable. I think it's the cups server that can not
 prepare the printable for the printer.
Apparently it does read the PPD.  In fact, we had problems with default
paper sizes.  We had set the default paper sizes via KDE but acroread
was ignoring them.  We needed to edit the actual /etc/cups/ppd/ files to
set the defaults before acroread would use them.
 
 You can try using the ppds from the plotters manufacturer. This was very
 useful approach in many cases.
We are.
 
 Also I would try printing the same document from Adobe on Windows or Mac.
 
 regards
Thanks - John


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