Re: Mutt Unread Mail

2001-09-22 Thread xio
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 01:25:25AM +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote:
 also sprach Danie Roux (on Tue, 11 Sep 2001 02:22:43PM +0200):
  Anyone know how to make that little delay between folders changing
  dissapear?
 
 it needs to parse the new mailbox. that takes time. you can't
 deactivate it, other than to keep your mailboxes small.
 

Mutt can use different kinds of mailboxes:

$ man muttrc

[...]
   mbox_type
  Type: folder magic
  Default: mbox

  The default mailbox type used when creating new folders.
May be any of mbox, MMDF, MH and Maildir.

I think Maildir is supposed to be one of the faster types of
mailbox and will keep parsing times short ...


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Re: Mutt Unread Mail

2001-09-22 Thread Martin F Krafft
also sprach xio (on Sat, 22 Sep 2001 05:02:57PM +0100):
 Mutt can use different kinds of mailboxes:
 
 $ man muttrc
 
 [...]
mbox_type
   Type: folder magic
   Default: mbox
 
   The default mailbox type used when creating new folders.
   May be any of mbox, MMDF, MH and Maildir.
 
 I think Maildir is supposed to be one of the faster types of
 mailbox and will keep parsing times short ...

that's what i am using. it's really just the only good type of
mailbox. no, not meaning to start a flame war, but there are many
arguments...

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Re: Mutt Unread Mail

2001-09-20 Thread Martin F Krafft
also sprach Danie Roux (on Tue, 11 Sep 2001 02:22:43PM +0200):
 Anyone know how to make that little delay between folders changing
 dissapear?

it needs to parse the new mailbox. that takes time. you can't
deactivate it, other than to keep your mailboxes small.

martin;  (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
  \ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- 
1-800-psych 
hello, welcome to the psychiatric hotline. 
if you are schizophrenic, listen carefully and a little voice will
tell you which number to press. 


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Re: Mutt Unread Mail

2001-09-19 Thread Michael Heldebrant
On Tue, 2001-09-11 at 07:22, Danie Roux wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 01:37:28PM +0100, Paul Clark wrote:
  I am learning to use Mutt. I cannot find a way to jump to unread
  messages across my many mail folders. I know TAB works
  within folders but that means I have to try every folder to find
  unread messages.
  
  Is there an easier way?
  
  -- 
  Paul Clark
 
 c changes to a folder with new mail in it.
 
 Anyone know how to make that little delay between folders changing
 dissapear?

Faster processor and faster hard drive?

--mike




Re: Mutt Unread Mail

2001-09-14 Thread Ailbhe Leamy
On (11/09/01 14:42), Martin F Krafft wrote:

 list your mailboxes in .muttrc with the mailboxes command, then use
 the letter 'c' to switch mailboxes - it'll switch to the next mailbox
 with unread messages.

Correction: It'll switch to the next mailbox with NEW mail. If you open
a mailbox, read half of what's new there, and leave, the other unread
messages will not cause the mailbox to be marked as containing new mail.

Ailbhe

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Re: Mutt Unread Mail

2001-09-14 Thread P Kirk
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 01:34:30PM +0100, Ailbhe Leamy wrote:
On (11/09/01 14:42), Martin F Krafft wrote:

 list your mailboxes in .muttrc with the mailboxes command, then use
 the letter 'c' to switch mailboxes - it'll switch to the next mailbox
 with unread messages.

Correction: It'll switch to the next mailbox with NEW mail. If you open
a mailbox, read half of what's new there, and leave, the other unread
messages will not cause the mailbox to be marked as containing new mail.


Is there a command to simply cycle to the next mailbox, read mail 
or no read mail?



Re: Mutt Unread Mail

2001-09-14 Thread Martin F Krafft
also sprach Ailbhe Leamy (on Fri, 14 Sep 2001 01:34:30PM +0100):
 Correction: It'll switch to the next mailbox with NEW mail. If you open
 a mailbox, read half of what's new there, and leave, the other unread
 messages will not cause the mailbox to be marked as containing new mail.

that's not true, at least not in my version. in fact, it gets quite
annoying when i purposely leave some mail as new (for later attention)
in one mailbox, 'c' will go to the next mailbox, but the next 'c' will
bring me back to the old one. do i need to provide screenshots?

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Re: Mutt Unread Mail

2001-09-14 Thread Martin F Krafft
also sprach P Kirk (on Fri, 14 Sep 2001 04:56:46PM +0100):
 Is there a command to simply cycle to the next mailbox, read mail or
 no read mail?

no. but 'c' provides a prompt with tab completion, and hitting '?'
will display all mailboxes in browser style.

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Re: Mutt Unread Mail

2001-09-14 Thread Martin F Krafft
also sprach Martin F Krafft (on Fri, 14 Sep 2001 05:00:24PM +0200):
 that's not true, at least not in my version. in fact, it gets quite
 annoying when i purposely leave some mail as new (for later attention)
 in one mailbox, 'c' will go to the next mailbox, but the next 'c' will
 bring me back to the old one. do i need to provide screenshots?

one way around this is to press space once 'c' has been pressed -
mutt will cycle through mailboxes with unread messages at the prompt,
so you hit enter when the desired mailbox with unread messages shows
up.

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Re: Mutt Unread Mail

2001-09-14 Thread dman
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 05:00:24PM +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote:
| also sprach Ailbhe Leamy (on Fri, 14 Sep 2001 01:34:30PM +0100):
|  Correction: It'll switch to the next mailbox with NEW mail. If you open
|  a mailbox, read half of what's new there, and leave, the other unread
|  messages will not cause the mailbox to be marked as containing new mail.
| 
| that's not true, at least not in my version. in fact, it gets quite
| annoying when i purposely leave some mail as new (for later attention)
| in one mailbox, 'c' will go to the next mailbox, but the next 'c' will
| bring me back to the old one. do i need to provide screenshots?

I have the same verison as you.  If I leave messages as either New or
Old in a mailbox, pressing 'c' will not jump to that mailbox.  If,
however, new mail arrives in that mailbox while I'm looking at another
mailbox then it will jump to it.  The flag on a mailbox (contains new
mail or not) is based on the mailbox's timestamp.  If you look at the
mailbox after it was modified then it does not have new mail, but if
it was modified after it was looked at then it has new mail.  What
sort of mailbox do you use?  I am using mbox, but perhaps a directory
based format (such as maildir) has different semantics?

-D



Re: Mutt Unread Mail

2001-09-14 Thread Martin F Krafft
also sprach dman (on Fri, 14 Sep 2001 11:11:56AM -0400):
 I have the same verison as you.  If I leave messages as either New or
 Old in a mailbox, pressing 'c' will not jump to that mailbox.  If,
 however, new mail arrives in that mailbox while I'm looking at another
 mailbox then it will jump to it.  The flag on a mailbox (contains new
 mail or not) is based on the mailbox's timestamp.  If you look at the
 mailbox after it was modified then it does not have new mail, but if
 it was modified after it was looked at then it has new mail.  What
 sort of mailbox do you use?  I am using mbox, but perhaps a directory
 based format (such as maildir) has different semantics?

yup, i have Maildir. that's most likely why. precisely for the reason
you indicated.

thanks for clearing this up!

martin;  (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
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Re: Mutt Unread Mail

2001-09-14 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Martin F Krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010914 08:18]:
 also sprach Ailbhe Leamy (on Fri, 14 Sep 2001 01:34:30PM +0100):
  Correction: It'll switch to the next mailbox with NEW mail. If you open
  a mailbox, read half of what's new there, and leave, the other unread
  messages will not cause the mailbox to be marked as containing new mail.
 
 that's not true, at least not in my version. in fact, it gets quite
 annoying when i purposely leave some mail as new (for later attention)
 in one mailbox, 'c' will go to the next mailbox, but the next 'c' will
 bring me back to the old one. do i need to provide screenshots?

Check out this configuration option; it might help you get the behaviour
you want.

  6.3.84.  mark_old

  Type: boolean
  Default: yes

  Controls whether or not Mutt makes the distinction between new
  messages and old unread messages.  By default, Mutt will mark new
  messages as old if you exit a mailbox without reading them.  The next
  time you start Mutt, the messages will show up with an O next to
  them in the index menu, indicating that they are old.  In order to
  make Mutt treat all unread messages as new only, you can unset this
  variable.

With this set (as it is by default) mutt only goes to folders with new
mail (not unread mail). This is with version 1.3.20i; I'm not sure how
the stable branch behaves. If this is not working for you, double-check
your .muttrc and /etc/Muttrc to make sure it's not being turned off.

What works really well for me is to use mutt's move and keep_flagged
features. This way, after I've read mail, it gets moved into my mbox,
unless I flag it. This way, my inbox shows me only unread and flagged
mails, and I can always reach my read mails with a simple 'c[enter]'

HTH

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Re: Mutt Unread Mail

2001-09-14 Thread dman
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 10:57:34PM +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote:
| also sprach dman (on Fri, 14 Sep 2001 11:11:56AM -0400):
|  I have the same verison as you.  If I leave messages as either New or
|  Old in a mailbox, pressing 'c' will not jump to that mailbox.  If,
|  however, new mail arrives in that mailbox while I'm looking at another
|  mailbox then it will jump to it.  The flag on a mailbox (contains new
|  mail or not) is based on the mailbox's timestamp.  If you look at the
|  mailbox after it was modified then it does not have new mail, but if
|  it was modified after it was looked at then it has new mail.  What
|  sort of mailbox do you use?  I am using mbox, but perhaps a directory
|  based format (such as maildir) has different semantics?
| 
| yup, i have Maildir. that's most likely why. precisely for the reason
| you indicated.

I bet the folder is the directory, and the directory's mtime is
after it's atime when you mark messages as 'old'.

| thanks for clearing this up!

No problem.  For once my speculation was correct :-).

-D



Re: Mutt Unread Mail

2001-09-12 Thread Adam McDaniel
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 02:22:43PM +0200, Danie Roux wrote:
 Anyone know how to make that little delay between folders changing
 dissapear?
the only time i've ever noticed that is when i have alot of messages in
a mailbox file. Takes time to load, i assume.

-- 
Adam McDaniel
Infrastructure Technology Consultant
M-Tech Mercury Information Technology, Inc.



Mutt Unread Mail

2001-09-11 Thread Paul Clark
I am learning to use Mutt. I cannot find a way to jump to unread
messages across my many mail folders. I know TAB works
within folders but that means I have to try every folder to find
unread messages.

Is there an easier way?

-- 
Paul Clark



Re: Mutt Unread Mail

2001-09-11 Thread ktb
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 01:37:28PM +0100, Paul Clark wrote:
 I am learning to use Mutt. I cannot find a way to jump to unread
 messages across my many mail folders. I know TAB works
 within folders but that means I have to try every folder to find
 unread messages.
 
 Is there an easier way?

I start mutt with mutt -y which shows what folders contain new
messages.  Then iterate through them with c + enter
hth,
kent

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Re: Mutt Unread Mail

2001-09-11 Thread Danie Roux
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 01:37:28PM +0100, Paul Clark wrote:
 I am learning to use Mutt. I cannot find a way to jump to unread
 messages across my many mail folders. I know TAB works
 within folders but that means I have to try every folder to find
 unread messages.
 
 Is there an easier way?
 
 -- 
 Paul Clark

c changes to a folder with new mail in it.

Anyone know how to make that little delay between folders changing
dissapear?

-- 
Danie Roux *shuffle* Adore Unix



Re: Mutt Unread Mail

2001-09-11 Thread Martin F Krafft
also sprach Paul Clark (on Tue, 11 Sep 2001 01:37:28PM +0100):
 I am learning to use Mutt. I cannot find a way to jump to unread
 messages across my many mail folders. I know TAB works
 within folders but that means I have to try every folder to find
 unread messages.

list your mailboxes in .muttrc with the mailboxes command, then use
the letter 'c' to switch mailboxes - it'll switch to the next mailbox
with unread messages.

martin;  (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
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Re: Mutt Unread Mail

2001-09-11 Thread Hall Stevenson
 I am learning to use Mutt. I cannot find a way to jump to
unread
 messages across my many mail folders. I know TAB works
 within folders but that means I have to try every folder to
find
 unread messages.

 Is there an easier way?

Look into mutt's 'mailbox' setting. When properly setup, you
can start mutt with 'mutt -y' (Paul Clark's already mentioned
most of this), and you'll get something a list of your
mailboxes. Ones with new mail in them will be flagged with an
'N'. Cursor to that mailbox, hit enter, and read the messages.
When you're done in the mailbox, hit the letter 'c' and mutt
will default to the 'next' mailbox with new mail in it. Simply
hit enter to go to it. Repeat endlessly (depending on how fast
you read, how much mail you get, and how you check for mail).

Hall



Re: Mutt Unread Mail

2001-09-11 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 02:22:43PM +0200, Danie Roux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 01:37:28PM +0100, Paul Clark wrote:
  I am learning to use Mutt. I cannot find a way to jump to unread
  messages across my many mail folders. I know TAB works
  within folders but that means I have to try every folder to find
  unread messages.
  
  Is there an easier way?
  
  -- 
  Paul Clark
 
 c changes to a folder with new mail in it.

Search order is specified by the 'mailboxes' section of your .muttrc, so
order priority mailboxes higher.

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