Re: NVIDIA and Etch : WAS Re: Problems with GRUB and SATA

2007-03-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 05:52:23AM +0100, Ian Broadbent wrote:
  You could of snipped the unnecessary bits.
  Chris.
 errr..  that might be good advice Chris  BUT, it kinda
 ASSumes that I knew what the 'unnecessary bits' were ... doesn't it? 
 If I'd known that ... then I would have been able to spot the error
 instantly (as others did when they saw the full detailed listing).

That was the lspci -v listing I was referring to.

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Re: NVIDIA and Etch : WAS Re: Problems with GRUB and SATA

2007-03-27 Thread Magnus Therning
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 18:44:30 +0100, ieb wrote:
Hello folks,
[..]
I have rebuilt the 2.6.18-4-amd64 with the NVIDIA components, have
installed the nvidia-glx module, but whenever I let the
etc/X11/xorg.conf build with the nvidia configuration tool it builds
the 'conf' with a declaration for the driver to be nvidia, ...but ... X
wont start then, ... warns me that there is no device for NVIDIA 00:1:3
(and/or if I manually change it to include 00:1:3) 00:13:0, and finally
stops with a grumble about the kernel kicking out an error 11.  BUT,
... if I change xorg.conf to use the driver nv (rather than nvidia) X
(gdm) will start, does have the higher resolution set (1600x1200), but
has a significant 'pink' colour cast. I can't find a configuration tool
for the nvidia settings (such as Gamma etc).

Question please... should the driver be 'nvidia' or 'nv', (if 'nvidia'
-  any suggestions as to what I am missing?)  ... if it's should be
'nv' in any event .. then can someone help me find the settings for
this to get the colours to be accurately displayed? 

It depends.  IIRC 'nv' is the open source driver that comes with Xorg
and 'nvidia' is the proprietary driver.  Which one you use depends on
what you want out of your card I suppose.

Also note that there are two versions of the proprietary driver
available in Debian (at least in Sid); the package names for the older
one end with -legacy.  On top of this there's a new version of the
driver out, but it doesn't seem to have hit Sid yet AFAIU it removes
support for some older cards.

Sorry I can't help you out more than this...

/M

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Re: NVIDIA and Etch : WAS Re: Problems with GRUB and SATA

2007-03-27 Thread Ian Broadbent
 
 Question please... should the driver be 'nvidia' or 'nv', (if
'nvidia'
 -  any suggestions as to what I am missing?)  ... if it's should be
 'nv' in any event .. then can someone help me find the settings for
 this to get the colours to be accurately displayed? 
 
 It depends.  IIRC 'nv' is the open source driver that comes with Xorg
 and 'nvidia' is the proprietary driver.  Which one you use depends on
 what you want out of your card I suppose.
 

Thanks Magnus, with the 'nv' all I get is basic graphics.  The modules
and various bits'n'pieces for the 3d acceleration and advanced elements
all load and report (via the log files) as being 'ok', but each time
(and I have now rebuilt the kernel with the proprietory driver pack 5
times with various options selected and deselected) I fire it up with
'nvidia' in the xorg.conf file it fails with warnings about no instance
for NVIDIA and the X-server failing with a 'Caught signal 11'. 


 Also note that there are two versions of the proprietary driver
 available in Debian (at least in Sid); the package names for the older
 one end with -legacy.  On top of this there's a new version of the
 driver out, but it doesn't seem to have hit Sid yet AFAIU it removes
 support for some older cards.

Yep, I was aware of that thanks I haven't gone the legacy route
because this is meant to be a 'new' motherboard and revised NVIDIA
chipset (NF-6100-406)... so I presumed that going 'legacy' would not be
much use.


 
 Sorry I can't help you out more than this...
 
 /M
 

Thanks for at least responding Magnus I have been asking the same
questions now for days of various forums ... and folks must be getting
as sick of me asking as I am of trying to get this thing to work.

I have read dozens of trails about this 'Signal 11' ... but so far not
one of them has thrown any light on it.  (The error codes listed for the
xserver are about as obscure as they could be ... at least the version I
downloaded was).

I must have done something really dumn... but I just can't figure this
one out.  I suspect it has somethign to do with the warning about there
being no instance for NVIDIA at 00:1:3 (or 00:0:13 ... quite why they
keep alternating is also a mystery to me).


Ah well,   ... as written .. thanks for responding at least.

Ian



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Re: NVIDIA and Etch : WAS Re: Problems with GRUB and SATA

2007-03-27 Thread Wackojacko



Ian Broadbent wrote:

Question please... should the driver be 'nvidia' or 'nv', (if

'nvidia'

-  any suggestions as to what I am missing?)  ... if it's should be
'nv' in any event .. then can someone help me find the settings for
this to get the colours to be accurately displayed? 

It depends.  IIRC 'nv' is the open source driver that comes with Xorg
and 'nvidia' is the proprietary driver.  Which one you use depends on
what you want out of your card I suppose.



Thanks Magnus, with the 'nv' all I get is basic graphics.  The modules
and various bits'n'pieces for the 3d acceleration and advanced elements
all load and report (via the log files) as being 'ok', but each time
(and I have now rebuilt the kernel with the proprietory driver pack 5
times with various options selected and deselected) I fire it up with
'nvidia' in the xorg.conf file it fails with warnings about no instance
for NVIDIA and the X-server failing with a 'Caught signal 11'. 




Also note that there are two versions of the proprietary driver
available in Debian (at least in Sid); the package names for the older
one end with -legacy.  On top of this there's a new version of the
driver out, but it doesn't seem to have hit Sid yet AFAIU it removes
support for some older cards.


Yep, I was aware of that thanks I haven't gone the legacy route
because this is meant to be a 'new' motherboard and revised NVIDIA
chipset (NF-6100-406)... so I presumed that going 'legacy' would not be
much use.



Sorry I can't help you out more than this...

/M



Thanks for at least responding Magnus I have been asking the same
questions now for days of various forums ... and folks must be getting
as sick of me asking as I am of trying to get this thing to work.

I have read dozens of trails about this 'Signal 11' ... but so far not
one of them has thrown any light on it.  (The error codes listed for the
xserver are about as obscure as they could be ... at least the version I
downloaded was).

I must have done something really dumn... but I just can't figure this
one out.  I suspect it has somethign to do with the warning about there
being no instance for NVIDIA at 00:1:3 (or 00:0:13 ... quite why they
keep alternating is also a mystery to me).



Try commenting the PCI bus line out of the xorg.conf and see if the 
driver can auto detect the card.  Otherwise, look at lspci -v for 
details of the bus.



Ah well,   ... as written .. thanks for responding at least.

Ian


HTH

Wackojacko


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Re: NVIDIA and Etch : WAS Re: Problems with GRUB and SATA

2007-03-27 Thread Ian Broadbent
On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 13:05 +0100, Wackojacko wrote:
 
  
  I have read dozens of trails about this 'Signal 11' ... but so far not
  one of them has thrown any light on it.  (The error codes listed for the
  xserver are about as obscure as they could be ... at least the version I
  downloaded was).
  


 Try commenting the PCI bus line out of the xorg.conf and see if the 
 driver can auto detect the card.  Otherwise, look at lspci -v for 
 details of the bus.

 HTH
 
 Wackojacko
 
 

OK, now I am really into DEEP water  I have run the lspci
command ... but I'm not too sure what it is telling me on a quick
scan down this lot (below) I only see the entry for VGA graphics
controller.   Would you not expect to see something that looked like
GeForce6  or DX9.0 or similar?

Sorry folks this is now at the 'bleeding-edge' of my limited
knowledge 

Does this list below give anyone a clue?


Ian






brutus:~# lspci -v
00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP61 Memory Controller (rev a1)
Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Unknown device 03ea
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0
Capabilities: [44] HyperTransport: Slave or Primary Interface
Capabilities: [dc] HyperTransport: MSI Mapping

00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 LPC Bridge (rev a2)
Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Unknown device 03e0
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0

00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP61 SMBus (rev a2)
Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Unknown device 03eb
Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at ec00 [size=64]
I/O ports at 5000 [size=64]
I/O ports at 6000 [size=64]
Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2

00:01.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP61 Memory Controller (rev a2)
Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Unknown device 03eb
Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel

00:01.3 Co-processor: nVidia Corporation MCP61 SMU (rev a2)
Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Unknown device 03f4
Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel
Memory at 8000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
[size=512K]

00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP61 USB Controller (rev a2)
(prog-i
f 10 [OHCI])
Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Unknown device 03f1
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 225
Memory at d000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2

00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP61 USB Controller (rev a2)
(prog-i
f 20 [EHCI])
Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Unknown device 03f2
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 209
Memory at dfffec00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
Capabilities: [44] Debug port
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

00:04.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 PCI bridge (rev a1)
(prog-if 01 [Su
btractive decode])
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0
Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=32
Capabilities: [b8] Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Unknown
device 03f3
Capabilities: [8c] HyperTransport: MSI Mapping

00:05.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio
(rev a2)
Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Unknown device 0888
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
Memory at dfff8000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [50] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask+ 64bit+
Queue=0/0
Enable-
Capabilities: [6c] HyperTransport: MSI Mapping

00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP61 IDE (rev a2) (prog-if 8a
[Master
 SecP PriP])
Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Unknown device 03ec
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0
I/O ports at ffa0 [size=16]
Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2

00:07.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2)
Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Unknown device 03ef
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 50
Memory at dfffd000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
I/O ports at e480 [size=8]
Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [50] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask+ 64bit+
Queue=0/3
Enable+
Capabilities: [6c] HyperTransport: MSI Mapping

00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP61 SATA Controller (rev a2)
(prog-i
f 85 [Master SecO PriO])
Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Unknown device 03f6
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 233
I/O ports at e400 [size=8]
I/O ports at e080 [size=4]
I/O ports at e000 [size=8]
I/O ports at dc00 [size=4]
I/O ports at d880 [size=16]
Memory at dfffc000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Capabilities: [44] Power 

Re: NVIDIA and Etch : WAS Re: Problems with GRUB and SATA

2007-03-27 Thread Ian Broadbent

 Try commenting the PCI bus line out of the xorg.conf and see if the 
 driver can auto detect the card.  Otherwise, look at lspci -v for 
 details of the bus.


Oh and BTW. I had already tried that (and have just repeated it
'just in case') ... no effect whatsoever. same error-11 , same warnings.


Ian


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Re: NVIDIA and Etch : WAS Re: Problems with GRUB and SATA

2007-03-27 Thread Wackojacko

Ian Broadbent wrote:
Try commenting the PCI bus line out of the xorg.conf and see if the 
driver can auto detect the card.  Otherwise, look at lspci -v for 
details of the bus.



Oh and BTW. I had already tried that (and have just repeated it
'just in case') ... no effect whatsoever. same error-11 , same warnings.


Ian



OK, rename the current xorg file and rerun dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg 
and select nvidia, leave the PCI BUS empty and restart X.


Also post the output of lspci -v |grep VGA (should show video 
controller) and /var/log/xorg if no luck.


HTH

Wackojacko

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Re: NVIDIA and Etch : WAS Re: Problems with GRUB and SATA

2007-03-27 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 27 Mar 2007, Ian Broadbent wrote:
  
  Question please... should the driver be 'nvidia' or 'nv', (if
 'nvidia'
  -  any suggestions as to what I am missing?)  ... if it's should be
  'nv' in any event .. then can someone help me find the settings for
  this to get the colours to be accurately displayed? 
  
[snip]

Have you tried the fglrx packages (fglrx-driver and fglrx-kernel-src)? I
installed these recently on a Thinkpad X61M and got 3d acceleration. I
can't remember the exact steps I used (and the machine is not here at
present to check) but it's explained in the docs and there is stuff on
Google about doing it.

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Re: NVIDIA and Etch : WAS Re: Problems with GRUB and SATA

2007-03-27 Thread Joe Hart
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Magnus Therning wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 18:44:30 +0100, ieb wrote:
 Hello folks,
 [..]
 I have rebuilt the 2.6.18-4-amd64 with the NVIDIA components, have
 installed the nvidia-glx module, but whenever I let the
 etc/X11/xorg.conf build with the nvidia configuration tool it builds
 the 'conf' with a declaration for the driver to be nvidia, ...but ... X
 wont start then, ... warns me that there is no device for NVIDIA 00:1:3
 (and/or if I manually change it to include 00:1:3) 00:13:0, and finally
 stops with a grumble about the kernel kicking out an error 11.  BUT,
 ... if I change xorg.conf to use the driver nv (rather than nvidia) X
 (gdm) will start, does have the higher resolution set (1600x1200), but
 has a significant 'pink' colour cast. I can't find a configuration tool
 for the nvidia settings (such as Gamma etc).

 Question please... should the driver be 'nvidia' or 'nv', (if 'nvidia'
 -  any suggestions as to what I am missing?)  ... if it's should be
 'nv' in any event .. then can someone help me find the settings for
 this to get the colours to be accurately displayed? 
 
 It depends.  IIRC 'nv' is the open source driver that comes with Xorg
 and 'nvidia' is the proprietary driver.  Which one you use depends on
 what you want out of your card I suppose.
 
 Also note that there are two versions of the proprietary driver
 available in Debian (at least in Sid); the package names for the older
 one end with -legacy.  On top of this there's a new version of the
 driver out, but it doesn't seem to have hit Sid yet AFAIU it removes
 support for some older cards.
 
 Sorry I can't help you out more than this...

I can.  The nvidia-glx package available in Sid (and I believe Etch as
well) is the proprietary driver from Nvidia for the newer cards.
However, it is an old version of it (8776).  Nvidia's web site has two
newer versions, both marked stable.  9746 and 9755.

If one is willing to use proprietary drivers in their computer, and
their card is still supported by Nvidia, then I would strongly recommend
using the drivers from nvidia directly and not installing the 8776
drivers that are old.

Unless 8776 is the last version that supports the video card you have,
use the more recent versions of the driver.

Keep in mind though, if you update your kernel, you'll need to reinstall
the nvidia drivers.  So keep the .run file you download from Nvidia
handy unless you want to download the drivers again.

Of course all of this is refers to someone who doesn't mind going
against the dsfg and installing proprietary stuff.  For people who free
software is everything, then the nv drivers are the best you can get,
and work fine for 2D things, but are quite sub-par in the 3D world
specifically because Nvidia will not release the source code.

Joe

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Re: NVIDIA and Etch : WAS Re: Problems with GRUB and SATA

2007-03-27 Thread Joe Hart
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Anthony Campbell wrote:
 On 27 Mar 2007, Ian Broadbent wrote:
 Question please... should the driver be 'nvidia' or 'nv', (if
 'nvidia'
 -  any suggestions as to what I am missing?)  ... if it's should be
 'nv' in any event .. then can someone help me find the settings for
 this to get the colours to be accurately displayed? 
 [snip]
 
 Have you tried the fglrx packages (fglrx-driver and fglrx-kernel-src)? I
 installed these recently on a Thinkpad X61M and got 3d acceleration. I
 can't remember the exact steps I used (and the machine is not here at
 present to check) but it's explained in the docs and there is stuff on
 Google about doing it.
 
 Anthony

flgrx is for ati cards.  OP has nvidia.  Ian, don't do that.

Ian, It sounds to me like your xorg.conf is still messed up.  Can you
post that too?  Just the relevant Device and Screen sections should
be enough.  But you can put the whole thing here too.  Then we should
get a pretty good idea what is going on.


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Re: NVIDIA and Etch : WAS Re: Problems with GRUB and SATA

2007-03-27 Thread Joe Hart
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Joe Hart wrote:
 Anthony Campbell wrote:
 On 27 Mar 2007, Ian Broadbent wrote:
 Question please... should the driver be 'nvidia' or 'nv', (if
 'nvidia'
 -  any suggestions as to what I am missing?)  ... if it's should be
 'nv' in any event .. then can someone help me find the settings for
 this to get the colours to be accurately displayed? 
 [snip]
 
 Have you tried the fglrx packages (fglrx-driver and fglrx-kernel-src)? I
 installed these recently on a Thinkpad X61M and got 3d acceleration. I
 can't remember the exact steps I used (and the machine is not here at
 present to check) but it's explained in the docs and there is stuff on
 Google about doing it.
 
 Anthony
 
 flgrx is for ati cards.  OP has nvidia.  Ian, don't do that.
 
 Ian, It sounds to me like your xorg.conf is still messed up.  Can you
 post that too?  Just the relevant Device and Screen sections should
 be enough.  But you can put the whole thing here too.  Then we should
 get a pretty good idea what is going on.
 
 

It would help if I slow down on my typing.  I meant fglrx is for ati.

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Re: NVIDIA and Etch : WAS Re: Problems with GRUB and SATA

2007-03-27 Thread Ian Broadbent

  
  Ian, It sounds to me like your xorg.conf is still messed up.  Can you
  post that too?  Just the relevant Device and Screen sections should
  be enough.  But you can put the whole thing here too.  Then we should
  get a pretty good idea what is going on.


Will do... but just now I have to go and get some work done... I only
meant to spend 15-20 minutes on this this morning... and have just
noticed the time oops I have meetings soon and I haven't even
prepared for them yet.

more later...


thanks folks.

Ian


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Re: NVIDIA and Etch : WAS Re: Problems with GRUB and SATA

2007-03-27 Thread Anthony Campbell
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 Anthony Campbell wrote:
  On 27 Mar 2007, Ian Broadbent wrote:
  Question please... should the driver be 'nvidia' or 'nv', (if
  'nvidia'
  -  any suggestions as to what I am missing?)  ... if it's should be
  'nv' in any event .. then can someone help me find the settings for
  this to get the colours to be accurately displayed? 
  [snip]
  
  Have you tried the fglrx packages (fglrx-driver and fglrx-kernel-src)? I
  installed these recently on a Thinkpad X61M and got 3d acceleration. I
  can't remember the exact steps I used (and the machine is not here at
  present to check) but it's explained in the docs and there is stuff on
  Google about doing it.
  
  Anthony
 
 flgrx is for ati cards.  OP has nvidia.  Ian, don't do that.
 
 
Sorry - yes, of course. Brain not working properly this morning.

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Re: NVIDIA and Etch : WAS Re: Problems with GRUB and SATA

2007-03-27 Thread Wackojacko

Ian Broadbent wrote:
On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 13:39 +0100, Wackojacko wrote: 

Ian Broadbent wrote:
Try commenting the PCI bus line out of the xorg.conf and see if the 
driver can auto detect the card.  Otherwise, look at lspci -v for 
details of the bus.


Oh and BTW. I had already tried that (and have just repeated it
'just in case') ... no effect whatsoever. same error-11 , same warnings.


Ian

OK, rename the current xorg file and rerun dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg 
and select nvidia, leave the PCI BUS empty and restart X.


Done.Same warnings (only this time for PCI 00:1:3  rather than
00:13:0) Same error 11.

Also post the output of lspci -v |grep VGA (should show video 
controller) and /var/log/xorg if no luck.


return from root call to lspci.

brutus:~# lspci -v |grep VGA
00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device
03d1 (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA])



IIRC, this suggests the bus id is 00:0d.0.

Also try installing the pciutils package and running update-pciids as 
root.  Then rerun the lspci command.



 which looks very similar to the entry in the longer lspci report.

The log file(s) are attached.
Xorg.0.log.old is the one from when it fails using 'nvidia'
Xorg.0.log is the most recent after I reset the xorg.conf to use 'nv'

I presume that the fonts having warnings is just that warnings as it
appears to find alternatives later.

...as for the rest, I don't know what I am missing, ...perhaps i am too
hooked up on the PCI warning and missing something more obvious.

 


Ian



snip xorg nv log


(II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:0d:0
(WW) NV: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:1:3) found


Again suggests different PCI Bus ID as above.

snip xorg nvidia log

(II) Initializing extension GLX

Backtrace:
0: /usr/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x6d) [0x4802ed]
1: /lib/libc.so.6 [0x2ac51f460110]
2: /lib/libc.so.6(__ctype_tolower_loc+0x25) [0x2ac51f45a2c5]
3: /usr/bin/X(xf86nameCompare+0xfe) [0x4a4cde]
4: /usr/bin/X(InitInput+0x103) [0x45ea23]
5: /usr/bin/X(main+0x337) [0x430e57]
6: /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xda) [0x2ac51f44d4ca]
7: /usr/bin/X(FontFileCompleteXLFD+0x9a) [0x43026a]

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11.  Server aborting



Ah!  Seems to be a problem with the GLX extension,  are you sure the 
nvidia-glx package matches the source from which you compiled the module?


I have googled this error (last line of backtrace) and it appears others 
are having problems and it does seem to be the nvidia-glx package 
causing the problem.  Bug#415878 (1) seems similar to your problem and 
suggests commenting the Load glx from xorg.  Might want to try this and 
see if it loads (albeit without glx acceleration) and add to the bug 
report if necessary.


HTH

Wackojacko

(1) 
http://people.debian.org/~terpstra/thread/20070324.205818.d7d3b216.en.html



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Re: NVIDIA and Etch : WAS Re: Problems with GRUB and SATA

2007-03-27 Thread Ian Broadbent

 
 snip xorg nvidia log
  (II) Initializing extension GLX
  
  Backtrace:
  0: /usr/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x6d) [0x4802ed]
  1: /lib/libc.so.6 [0x2ac51f460110]
  2: /lib/libc.so.6(__ctype_tolower_loc+0x25) [0x2ac51f45a2c5]
  3: /usr/bin/X(xf86nameCompare+0xfe) [0x4a4cde]
  4: /usr/bin/X(InitInput+0x103) [0x45ea23]
  5: /usr/bin/X(main+0x337) [0x430e57]
  6: /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xda) [0x2ac51f44d4ca]
  7: /usr/bin/X(FontFileCompleteXLFD+0x9a) [0x43026a]
  
  Fatal server error:
  Caught signal 11.  Server aborting
  
 
 Ah!  Seems to be a problem with the GLX extension,  are you sure the 
 nvidia-glx package matches the source from which you compiled the module?
 
 I have googled this error (last line of backtrace) and it appears others 
 are having problems and it does seem to be the nvidia-glx package 
 causing the problem.  Bug#415878 (1) seems similar to your problem and 
 suggests commenting the Load glx from xorg.  Might want to try this and 
 see if it loads (albeit without glx acceleration) and add to the bug 
 report if necessary.
 
 HTH
 
 Wackojacko
 


My thanks to Anthony, Joe, Magnus and especially to Jacko (can't
bring myself to write 'Wackojacko')   You were spot on...  remove the
Load GLX from xorg.conf and set the driver back to 'nvidia' and it
started up perfectly ...well .'almost'. As you may recall from
earlier posts I had a heavy pink cast over the KDE desktop it's
still there, but now at least it goes away as soon as I start the
nvidia-settings programme  unfortunately, it returns when I switch
to Gnome but as don't usually switch between display-managers it
shouldn't be a major problem.

Can I ask (and learn) then about the backtrace reporting.   I presume
than the backtrace always then applies to the last element on the log
prior to it?   I didn't know that (if correct).. so although I read the
backtrace I thought it was telling me that step seven in the trace was
the root problem (something to do with the fonts)... rather than the
actual bugbear being the last thing in the log above the point where the
backtrace begins.   Is my assumption correct?  Is it always so?  If
yes... then todays been helpful on two counts.

So ... final question (if you don't mind) how do I add this to the bug
report as you suggested?  Sorry, bug reporting is also new to me.


Thanks again folks... it really is very much appreciated


Ian




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Re: NVIDIA and Etch : WAS Re: Problems with GRUB and SATA

2007-03-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 11:23:14AM +0100, Ian Broadbent wrote:
 OK, now I am really into DEEP water  I have run the lspci
 command ... but I'm not too sure what it is telling me on a quick
 scan down this lot (below) I only see the entry for VGA graphics
 controller.   Would you not expect to see something that looked like
 GeForce6  or DX9.0 or similar?
 
 Sorry folks this is now at the 'bleeding-edge' of my limited
 knowledge 
 
 Does this list below give anyone a clue?
 
 brutus:~# lspci -v
 
 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device
 03d1 (rev a
 2) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
 Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Unknown device 03d1
 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10
 Memory at de00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
 Memory at c000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
 Memory at dd00 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
 Expansion ROM at dffc [disabled] [size=128K]
 Capabilities: [48] Power Management version 2
 Capabilities: [50] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+

You could of snipped the unnecessary bits.

Looks like recent h/w. Try running, as root, the following:

update-pciids

from a command line while you are online.

Then try as root
lspci | grep VGA

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Don't forget to check that your /etc/apt/sources.lst entries point to 
etch and not testing, otherwise you may end up with a broken system once
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Re: NVIDIA and Etch : WAS Re: Problems with GRUB and SATA

2007-03-27 Thread Ian Broadbent
 You could of snipped the unnecessary bits.
 Chris.
errr..  that might be good advice Chris  BUT, it kinda
ASSumes that I knew what the 'unnecessary bits' were ... doesn't it? 
If I'd known that ... then I would have been able to spot the error
instantly (as others did when they saw the full detailed listing).

Thanks anyway. As written previously it's now at least resolved in that
we know what the problem is/was and I have NVIDIA running (crippled..
but running).
Ian


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NVIDIA and Etch : WAS Re: Problems with GRUB and SATA

2007-03-25 Thread ieb
Hello folks,
I'm still puzzling with my build of Etch on this new machine  I've
solved the GRUB error 16 and error 18 problems, by disabling the SMART
options in the BIOS and stopping the appropriate services for
smartmon.   Everything on that front now appears to be stable ...and I
don't appear to have a faulty disc-controller after all. But I am still
puzzling over the NVIDIA and sound modules.  My latest 'problem' is with
NVIDIA. (I'll worry about why ALSA isn't working next).

I have rebuilt the 2.6.18-4-amd64 with the NVIDIA components, have
installed the nvidia-glx module, but whenever I let the
etc/X11/xorg.conf build with the nvidia configuration tool it builds the
'conf' with a declaration for the driver to be nvidia, ...but ... X wont
start then, ... warns me that there is no device for NVIDIA 00:1:3
(and/or if I manually change it to include 00:1:3) 00:13:0, and finally
stops with a grumble about the kernel kicking out an error 11.
BUT, ... if I change xorg.conf to use the driver nv (rather than nvidia)
X (gdm) will start, does have the higher resolution set (1600x1200), but
has a significant 'pink' colour cast. I can't find a configuration tool
for the nvidia settings (such as Gamma etc).

Question please... should the driver be 'nvidia' or 'nv', (if 'nvidia'
-  any suggestions as to what I am missing?)  ... if it's should be 'nv'
in any event .. then can someone help me find the settings for this to
get the colours to be accurately displayed? 

Thanks again folks,

Ian


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