Re: Netscape 4.7x, unstable and XFree4.3

2004-02-28 Thread Greg Madden
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On Friday 27 February 2004 04:29 am, Andreas Bach Aaen wrote:
 Hi,

 I have sucessfully used Netscape Navigator 4.7x from stable in my
 othervise unstable installation. After upgrading unstable to XFree4.3
 it removed netscape as it couldn't provide the needed dependancies.
 Is there any way to solve this?

 I need this old outdated version of Netscape, as my homebanking
 requires it.

 When It try to install navigator I get:
 ---
 apt-get install navigator
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
 requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
 distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
 or been moved out of Incoming.

 Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely
 that
 the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
 that package should be filed.
 The following information may help to resolve the situation:

 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
   navigator: Depends: navigator-smotif-477 but it is not going to be
 installed
  Depends: netscape-base-4 but it is not going to be
 installed
 E: Broken packages
 ---

 Regards,

Are you sure Konqueror 3.1.5 or the current version of Mozilla do not 
work ? My banks site became workable with Konq 3.1.2 and works with 
modern versions of Mozilla. My bank is an IE preffered web site (:
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Re: Netscape 4.7x, unstable and XFree4.3

2004-02-28 Thread Doug Holland
On Friday 27 February 2004 11:49 am, Vineet Kumar wrote:
 * Andreas Bach Aaen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040227 05:32]:
  I need this old outdated version of Netscape, as my homebanking
  requires it.

 Hi Andreas,

 Sorry, this is another post which does not answer your question.

 But IMO, this is as good a reason as any to switch banks.  I've done
 this in the past for specifically this reason.  I can't stand a bank
 claiming that they provide Internet Banking only to find out later
 that (for no good reason) they do browser checks or other broken
 javascript crap which prevents it from running properly.  I'd never use
 a bank whose branches featured drive-up tellers that only served SUVs.
 This is the same thing.  I see this as an opportunity to let the bank
 know that their broken technology is actively driving their customers
 away to their competitors.  Tell them you'll bring your money back if
 they'll give you a call when they've fixed it.

 If you don't follow my thinking purely on philosophical grounds,
 extrapolate their incompetence at putting together a simple web
 application to the security of your money elsewhere in the bank's
 various other systems, and switch for your own safety.

True.  Any web site that requires such an outdated web browser as Netscape 4.x 
is broken, as far as I'm concerned.  Banks are notoriously conservative when 
it comes to computing, but it can't be THAT hard to keep a web site updated.

Alternatively, The Mozilla based browsers (Mozilla, Firefox, Galeon, etc.) as 
well as Konqueror and Opera can be set to lie in their User-Agent strings, 
which should get you past your bank's lame browser checks.


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Netscape 4.7x, unstable and XFree4.3

2004-02-27 Thread Andreas Bach Aaen
Hi,

I have sucessfully used Netscape Navigator 4.7x from stable in my 
othervise unstable installation. After upgrading unstable to XFree4.3 
it removed netscape as it couldn't provide the needed dependancies. 
Is there any way to solve this?

I need this old outdated version of Netscape, as my homebanking 
requires it.

When It try to install navigator I get:
---
apt-get install navigator
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely 
that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  navigator: Depends: navigator-smotif-477 but it is not going to be 
installed
 Depends: netscape-base-4 but it is not going to be 
installed
E: Broken packages
---

Regards,
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Re: Netscape 4.7x, unstable and XFree4.3

2004-02-27 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 14:29, Andreas Bach Aaen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have sucessfully used Netscape Navigator 4.7x from stable in my 
 othervise unstable installation. After upgrading unstable to XFree4.3 
 it removed netscape as it couldn't provide the needed dependancies. 
 Is there any way to solve this?
 
 I need this old outdated version of Netscape, as my homebanking 
 requires it.
 
 When It try to install navigator I get:
 ---
 apt-get install navigator
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
 requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
 distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
 or been moved out of Incoming.
 
 Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely 
 that
 the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
 that package should be filed.
 The following information may help to resolve the situation:
 
 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
   navigator: Depends: navigator-smotif-477 but it is not going to be 
 installed
  Depends: netscape-base-4 but it is not going to be 
 installed
 E: Broken packages

   [ ... ]

I'm on unstable, powerpc:

$ apt-cache policy navigator-smotif-477
W: Unable to locate package navigator-smotif-477
$ apt-cache policy netscape-base-4 
netscape-base-4:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: (none)
  Version Table:

So I'd try to get set up

/etc/apt/sources.list

for stable, too, but without removing the lines for the unstable
versions, and then do something along the line 

# apt-get --simulate install -t stable netscape-package

and look what apt-get says ...

HTH

Best Regards
Wolfgang
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Re: Netscape 4.7x, unstable and XFree4.3

2004-02-27 Thread CW Harris
On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 02:29:02PM +0100, Andreas Bach Aaen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have sucessfully used Netscape Navigator 4.7x from stable in my 
 othervise unstable installation. After upgrading unstable to XFree4.3 
 it removed netscape as it couldn't provide the needed dependancies. 
 Is there any way to solve this?
 
 I need this old outdated version of Netscape, as my homebanking 
 requires it.

Really?  No others work?  One other possibility might be Opera (it can
be set up to identify itself as mozilla 4.78, although the identity
doesn't always guarantee it will work exactly the same.)  I haven't yet
tried it with XFree4.3 either.

Sorry, that really doesn't answer your question, I know.

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Re: Netscape 4.7x, unstable and XFree4.3

2004-02-27 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Andreas Bach Aaen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040227 05:32]:
 I need this old outdated version of Netscape, as my homebanking 
 requires it.

Hi Andreas,

Sorry, this is another post which does not answer your question.

But IMO, this is as good a reason as any to switch banks.  I've done
this in the past for specifically this reason.  I can't stand a bank
claiming that they provide Internet Banking only to find out later
that (for no good reason) they do browser checks or other broken
javascript crap which prevents it from running properly.  I'd never use
a bank whose branches featured drive-up tellers that only served SUVs.
This is the same thing.  I see this as an opportunity to let the bank
know that their broken technology is actively driving their customers
away to their competitors.  Tell them you'll bring your money back if
they'll give you a call when they've fixed it.

If you don't follow my thinking purely on philosophical grounds,
extrapolate their incompetence at putting together a simple web
application to the security of your money elsewhere in the bank's
various other systems, and switch for your own safety.

good times,
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