SOLVED was: Re: Networking an all-in-one printer/scanner/fax

2014-06-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 07 June 2014 08:35:14 Lisi Reisz wrote:
 Two questions.  And yes, I am googling and RTFMing, but I am left with two
 immediate questions.  And as of now I have not got access to the device and
 network in question.  I am trying to do my homework in advance.

 The AIO in question is a CLX4195FN, but the two questions I have are
 probably general to AIO.  We have the ULD and it is installed in both
 computers that need access.  When the device is connected by USB to either
 computer, it works fine.  But now we want, if possible, to network it.

 1)  I assume that if the printer is connected by ethernet to a router, amd
 that router is a wireless router, the printer can be controlled from a
 laptop wirelessly connected to the router.  Is this correct?

 2)  Can it scan over the network?  Again, I assume so, but would be
 grateful for confirmation.

I got there.  Unplugged the USB cable form the AIO.  Plugged a cat5e cable 
into both the router and the AIO.  Switched everything on. 

Go to first computer (the wired one.)  Opened CUPS. - printers - new network 
printer.  Click on default.  Click on default.  Test printing and scanning 
from 1st computer.  Rinse and repeat from second computer (the wi-fi one).  
Total time:  a few minutes.

I love CUPS. :-)

Thanks all.

Lisi


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Re: SOLVED was: Re: Networking an all-in-one printer/scanner/fax

2014-06-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/06/2014, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Saturday 07 June 2014 08:35:14 Lisi Reisz wrote:
 Two questions.  And yes, I am googling and RTFMing, but I am left with
 two
 immediate questions.  And as of now I have not got access to the device
 and
 network in question.  I am trying to do my homework in advance.

 The AIO in question is a CLX4195FN, but the two questions I have are
 probably general to AIO.  We have the ULD and it is installed in both
 computers that need access.  When the device is connected by USB to
 either
 computer, it works fine.  But now we want, if possible, to network it.

 1)  I assume that if the printer is connected by ethernet to a router,
 amd
 that router is a wireless router, the printer can be controlled from a
 laptop wirelessly connected to the router.  Is this correct?

 2)  Can it scan over the network?  Again, I assume so, but would be
 grateful for confirmation.

 I got there.  Unplugged the USB cable form the AIO.  Plugged a cat5e cable
 into both the router and the AIO.  Switched everything on.

 Go to first computer (the wired one.)  Opened CUPS. - printers - new
 network
 printer.  Click on default.  Click on default.  Test printing and scanning
 from 1st computer.  Rinse and repeat from second computer (the wi-fi one).

 Total time:  a few minutes.

 I love CUPS. :-)

 Thanks all.

 Lisi


Hello.

Two things.

1. The use of the acronyms can make it difficult to understand such
messages. After a while, I believe that figured out the AIO (= All
in One?), but I do not understand the ULD. If people could avoid the
use of acronyms, it would make understanding messages, easier for us
simple foilk.

2. How did you manage to get the scanning, working?

I have previously mentioned, on this, or the Debian printing list,
that I have a Samsung CLX3185FW  (which I believe, is supposed to also
be able to operate as a network device, wireless or wired), but that I
have not been able to scan from it to a computer, since Debian 6 was
implemented.

I am assuming that you are using Debian 6 or later, for your CLX 4195FN.


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Re: SOLVED was: Re: Networking an all-in-one printer/scanner/fax

2014-06-13 Thread Brian
On Sat 14 Jun 2014 at 03:11:37 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:

 1. The use of the acronyms can make it difficult to understand such
 messages. After a while, I believe that figured out the AIO (= All
 in One?), but I do not understand the ULD. If people could avoid the
 use of acronyms, it would make understanding messages, easier for us
 simple foilk.

Lisi did explain the acronym in another mail. I'm sure even simple folk
can keep up with reading this list.


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Re: SOLVED was: Re: Networking an all-in-one printer/scanner/fax

2014-06-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 13 June 2014 20:11:37 Bret Busby wrote:
 On 14/06/2014, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Saturday 07 June 2014 08:35:14 Lisi Reisz wrote:
  Two questions.  And yes, I am googling and RTFMing, but I am left with
  two
  immediate questions.  And as of now I have not got access to the device
  and
  network in question.  I am trying to do my homework in advance.
 
  The AIO in question is a CLX4195FN, but the two questions I have are
  probably general to AIO.  We have the ULD and it is installed in both
  computers that need access.  When the device is connected by USB to
  either
  computer, it works fine.  But now we want, if possible, to network it.
 
  1)  I assume that if the printer is connected by ethernet to a router,
  amd
  that router is a wireless router, the printer can be controlled from a
  laptop wirelessly connected to the router.  Is this correct?
 
  2)  Can it scan over the network?  Again, I assume so, but would be
  grateful for confirmation.
 
  I got there.  Unplugged the USB cable form the AIO.  Plugged a cat5e
  cable into both the router and the AIO.  Switched everything on.
 
  Go to first computer (the wired one.)  Opened CUPS. - printers - new
  network
  printer.  Click on default.  Click on default.  Test printing and
  scanning from 1st computer.  Rinse and repeat from second computer (the
  wi-fi one).
 
  Total time:  a few minutes.
 
  I love CUPS. :-)
 
  Thanks all.
 
  Lisi

 Hello.

 Two things.

 1. The use of the acronyms can make it difficult to understand such
 messages.
http://www.acronymfinder.com/
 After a while, I believe that figured out the AIO (= All 
 in One?),

  but I do not understand the ULD. 

Someone had already asked about that and I had explained it.  It is Samsung's 
Linux Driver. 

  If people could avoid the   
 use of acronyms, it would make understanding messages, easier for us
 simple foilk.

 I agree with you - but none-the-less, sadly, it is common practice.  I often 
don't understand things.  I do not even know what HPLIP stands for.  (Though 
I know what it is, as I do HPIJS.)  In my own defence, not understanding it 
in this case didn't matter because I had said the exact model number to which 
I was referring.  Multifunction would have been better.

 2. How did you manage to get the scanning, working?

It Just Worked - with the Samsung driver already installed from before and the 
version of Xsane on which it depended.

 I have previously mentioned, on this, or the Debian printing list,
 that I have a Samsung CLX3185FW  (which I believe, is supposed to also
 be able to operate as a network device, wireless or wired), but that I
 have not been able to scan from it to a computer, since Debian 6 was
 implemented.

Talk to Samsung.  They helped me when I first installed the CLX4195FN.  You 
will have to fight your way past first line support to reach those who 
actually know something.

 I am assuming that you are using Debian 6 or later, for your CLX 4195FN.

From the second email in this thread, which I sent immediately after I had 
sent the first:
quote
I omitted to say that the two computers are both running Debian Wheezy with 
TDE 3.5.13.2.  The router is one supplied by Virgin (a cable company).  I 
have no details.
/quote
Sorry.  I obviously ought to have included it in the original mail.

Lisi


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Networking an all-in-one printer/scanner/fax

2014-06-07 Thread Lisi Reisz
Two questions.  And yes, I am googling and RTFMing, but I am left with two 
immediate questions.  And as of now I have not got access to the device and 
network in question.  I am trying to do my homework in advance.  

The AIO in question is a CLX4195FN, but the two questions I have are probably 
general to AIO.  We have the ULD and it is installed in both computers that 
need access.  When the device is connected by USB to either computer, it 
works fine.  But now we want, if possible, to network it.

1)  I assume that if the printer is connected by ethernet to a router, amd 
that router is a wireless router, the printer can be controlled from a laptop 
wirelessly connected to the router.  Is this correct?

2)  Can it scan over the network?  Again, I assume so, but would be grateful 
for confirmation.

Thanks for help.

Lisi


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Re: Networking an all-in-one printer/scanner/fax - ADDENDUM

2014-06-07 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 07 June 2014 08:35:14 Lisi Reisz wrote:
 Two questions.  And yes, I am googling and RTFMing, but I am left with two
 immediate questions.  And as of now I have not got access to the device and
 network in question.  I am trying to do my homework in advance.

 The AIO in question is a CLX4195FN, but the two questions I have are
 probably general to AIO.  We have the ULD and it is installed in both
 computers that need access.  When the device is connected by USB to either
 computer, it works fine.  But now we want, if possible, to network it.

 1)  I assume that if the printer is connected by ethernet to a router, amd
 that router is a wireless router, the printer can be controlled from a
 laptop wirelessly connected to the router.  Is this correct?

 2)  Can it scan over the network?  Again, I assume so, but would be
 grateful for confirmation.

I omitted to say that the two computers are both running Debian Wheezy with 
TDE 3.5.13.2.  The router is one supplied by Virgin (a cable company).  I 
have no details.

Thanks.
Lisi


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Re: Networking an all-in-one printer/scanner/fax - ADDENDUM

2014-06-07 Thread ken

On 06/07/2014 04:11 AM Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Saturday 07 June 2014 08:35:14 Lisi Reisz wrote:

Two questions.  And yes, I am googling and RTFMing, but I am left with two
immediate questions.  And as of now I have not got access to the device and
network in question.  I am trying to do my homework in advance.

The AIO in question is a CLX4195FN, but the two questions I have are
probably general to AIO.  We have the ULD and it is installed in both
computers that need access.  When the device is connected by USB to either
computer, it works fine.  But now we want, if possible, to network it.

1)  I assume that if the printer is connected by ethernet to a router, amd
that router is a wireless router, the printer can be controlled from a
laptop wirelessly connected to the router.  Is this correct?

2)  Can it scan over the network?  Again, I assume so, but would be
grateful for confirmation.


I omitted to say that the two computers are both running Debian Wheezy with
TDE 3.5.13.2.  The router is one supplied by Virgin (a cable company).  I
have no details.

Thanks.
Lisi


If the router functions as a normal router ought to function, then that 
shouldn't be a problem.  You don't say whether your network is set up 
for static IP addresses or DHCP.  I find static addressing to be more 
straightforward in instances like this.  If the printer/scanner/fax 
worked when connected via USB, then you should be able to use the same 
configuration files or apps and just change the device address.  E.g., 
using CUPS for printing, create another printer and specify the 
CLX4195FN's network address.  Prior to doing that though, try running a 
'ping' from your two Wheezy boxes to the all-in-one's network interface 
to ensure it's reachable.



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Re: Networking an all-in-one printer/scanner/fax

2014-06-07 Thread Brian
On Sat 07 Jun 2014 at 08:35:14 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:

 1)  I assume that if the printer is connected by ethernet to a router, amd 
 that router is a wireless router, the printer can be controlled from a laptop 
 wirelessly connected to the router.  Is this correct?

Your printer speaks ipp. So, yes.

 2)  Can it scan over the network?  Again, I assume so, but would be grateful 
 for confirmation.

Yes. Last time I did this the setup was made with sane.

ULD?


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Re: Networking an all-in-one printer/scanner/fax

2014-06-07 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 07 June 2014 11:18:24 Brian wrote:
 On Sat 07 Jun 2014 at 08:35:14 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
  1)  I assume that if the printer is connected by ethernet to a router,
  amd that router is a wireless router, the printer can be controlled from
  a laptop wirelessly connected to the router.  Is this correct?

 Your printer speaks ipp. So, yes.

  2)  Can it scan over the network?  Again, I assume so, but would be
  grateful for confirmation.

 Yes. Last time I did this the setup was made with sane.

Thanks, Brian.

 ULD?

Sorry.  Samsung's Universal Linux Driver.


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Re: Networking an all-in-one printer/scanner/fax - ADDENDUM

2014-06-07 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 07 June 2014 11:13:21 ken wrote:
 On 06/07/2014 04:11 AM Lisi Reisz wrote:
  On Saturday 07 June 2014 08:35:14 Lisi Reisz wrote:
  Two questions.  And yes, I am googling and RTFMing, but I am left with
  two immediate questions.  And as of now I have not got access to the
  device and network in question.  I am trying to do my homework in
  advance.
 
  The AIO in question is a CLX4195FN, but the two questions I have are
  probably general to AIO.  We have the ULD and it is installed in both
  computers that need access.  When the device is connected by USB to
  either computer, it works fine.  But now we want, if possible, to
  network it.
 
  1)  I assume that if the printer is connected by ethernet to a router,
  amd that router is a wireless router, the printer can be controlled from
  a laptop wirelessly connected to the router.  Is this correct?
 
  2)  Can it scan over the network?  Again, I assume so, but would be
  grateful for confirmation.
 
  I omitted to say that the two computers are both running Debian Wheezy
  with TDE 3.5.13.2.  The router is one supplied by Virgin (a cable
  company).  I have no details.
 
  Thanks.
  Lisi

 If the router functions as a normal router ought to function, then that
 shouldn't be a problem.  You don't say whether your network is set up
 for static IP addresses or DHCP.  I find static addressing to be more
 straightforward in instances like this.  If the printer/scanner/fax
 worked when connected via USB, then you should be able to use the same
 configuration files or apps and just change the device address.  E.g.,
 using CUPS for printing, create another printer and specify the
 CLX4195FN's network address.  Prior to doing that though, try running a
 'ping' from your two Wheezy boxes to the all-in-one's network interface
 to ensure it's reachable.

Thnaks, Ken.  That is very helpful.  I shall certainly follow your suggestion 
to ping both computers.

Lisi


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Re: Networking an all-in-one printer/scanner/fax

2014-06-07 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 08:35:14 +0100
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Lisi,

2)  Can it scan over the network?  Again, I assume so, but would be

Scanning can be controlled by any computer with the correct software and
access rights.

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