Re: Newbie video editing question

2010-12-02 Thread Florian Rehnisch
Marc Shapiro marcns...@gmail.com writes:

 Also, what is the best capture and editing software for a newbie with
 minimal needs.  No flame wars, please.  I know that Cinelerra is
 available, but I don't know what else there is, or how easy they are
 to use.  For now all I really need to do is capture the analog signal
 from a VCR and save it to a file.  Then I want to edit out the
 commercials, possibly combine multiple files, and then save the
 resulting file to a dvd iso that can be mounted directly and played
 back, or written to a dvd.

For cutting out parts off recorded dvb-t streams, I use dvbcut from 
the debian-multimedia.org repository.  Despite its name, it should
work with any mpeg streams.
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Re: Newbie video editing question

2010-11-30 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
30/11/2010 06:47, Marc Shapiro wrote:
 On 11/29/10 16:52, Rob Owens wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 09:31:10PM -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote:
 First off, I'm a video editing newbie.  Not a linux newbie.  I've been
 running Debian since Bo.

 I have a lot of video tapes lying around and I am afraid they will
 degrade over time.  Also, since they are not making tapes any more (or
 VCRs?) I expect it will be difficult to repair my two VCRs when they
 start to die on me.  So I want to convert my analog tapes to digital
 files while I can and write them out to DVD.

 When I mentioned this to a friend, he pulled out a WinTV card, using a
 Hauppauge PVR-250.  Are there drivers for this in the standard kernel
 tree, or do I need to get them from somewhere?

 This works in Lenny and is auto-detected.
 
 Well, I have installed the card, but it is not initializing correctly.
 For one thing, in appears to be a PVR-150 (not PVR-250).  These appear
 to be the pertinent output sections of dmesg showing that, and also
 showing what looks like a successful initialization and an unsuccessful
 loading of firmware at the very end:
 
 -
 [   10.496469] Linux video capture interface: v2.00
 [   10.778863] ivtv: Start initialization, version 1.4.1
 [   10.779040] ivtv0: Initializing card 0
 [   10.779091] ivtv0: Autodetected Hauppauge card (cx23416 based)
 [   10.808083] ivtv :00:08.0: PCI INT A - GSI 18 (level, low) -
 IRQ 18
 [   10.880224] tveeprom 0-0050: Hauppauge model 26032, rev C199, serial#
 8164408
 [   10.880283] tveeprom 0-0050: tuner model is TCL 2002N 5H (idx 99,
 type 50)
 [   10.880337] tveeprom 0-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
 [   10.880390] tveeprom 0-0050: audio processor is CX25841 (idx 35)
 [   10.880442] tveeprom 0-0050: decoder processor is CX25841 (idx 28)
 [   10.880494] tveeprom 0-0050: has no radio, has IR receiver, has IR
 transmitter
 [   10.880557] ivtv0: Autodetected Hauppauge WinTV PVR-150
 [   10.880607] ivtv0: Reopen i2c bus for IR-blaster support
 
 
 
 [   12.667545] cx25840 0-0044: cx25841-23 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
 [   14.118219] tuner 0-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
 [   14.529890] wm8775 0-001b: chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
 [   15.371353] tuner-simple 0-0061: creating new instance
 [   15.371410] tuner-simple 0-0061: type set to 50 (TCL 2002N)
 [   15.372369] IRQ 18/ivtv0: IRQF_DISABLED is not guaranteed on shared IRQs
 [   15.373626] ivtv0: Registered device video0 for encoder MPG (4096 kB)
 [   15.374463] ivtv0: Registered device video32 for encoder YUV (2048 kB)
 [   15.374601] ivtv0: Registered device vbi0 for encoder VBI (1024 kB)
 [   15.374678] ivtv0: Registered device video24 for encoder PCM (320 kB)
 [   15.374731] ivtv0: Initialized card: Hauppauge WinTV PVR-150
 
 
 
 [   46.500015] ivtv :00:08.0: firmware: requesting v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw
 [   46.570501] ivtv0: Unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw (must
 be 376836 bytes)
 [   46.570570] ivtv0: Did you put the firmware in the hotplug firmware
 directory?
 [   46.570634] ivtv0: Retry loading firmware
 [   47.192019] ivtv :00:08.0: firmware: requesting v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw
 [   47.200641] ivtv0: Unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw (must
 be 376836 bytes)
 [   47.200710] ivtv0: Did you put the firmware in the hotplug firmware
 directory?
 [   47.200775] ivtv0: Failed to initialize on minor 2
 [   47.207908] ivtv0: Failed to initialize on minor 0
 [   47.214245] ivtv0: Failed to initialize on minor 3
 [   47.221233] ivtv0: Failed to initialize on minor 1
 -
 
 Am I missing something, somewhere?  Should I have received a disk with
 firmware that I need to install somewhere?  Can said firmware be
 downloaded from somewhere on th Hauppauge site?
 
 Never having done any of this before, I am now at a loss.  Can someone
 point me in the right direction?
 
 Marc
 
 

Hi,

apt-file search v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw

firmware-ivtv: /lib/firmware/v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw



Then a:

aptitude search ivtv

should put you on the right track.

Hope it helps.


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Re: Newbie video editing question

2010-11-30 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 11/29/2010 09:48 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote:
 No worries there.  I avoid KDE and any apps that use its libraries
 like the plague.  I used to use a few KDE apps (kate, in particular)
 but artsd kept messing up my sound so that I had to kill it to get any
 sound back.  I got tired of that real fast and purged anything to do
 with KDE.  My laptop runs gnome, since it was installed from scratch. 
 The desktop, however, which has been upgraded, or had parts moved from
 one box to another since Bo, is running FVWM2. 
I have that issue on Lenny, I have to restart alsasound sometimes,
iceweasel pukes on sound, chrome doesn't. so I restart alsasound,
iceweasel crashes, chrome gives me a little check box telling me
something restarted.. I use gnome, but my wife uses KDE3.

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Re: Newbie video editing question

2010-11-30 Thread Marc Shapiro

On 11/30/10 01:03, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:

Hi,

apt-file search v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw

firmware-ivtv: /lib/firmware/v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw



~$ apt-file search v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw
bash: apt-file: command not found

~$ apt-cache search v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw
firmware-ivtv - Binary firmware for iTVC15-family MPEG codecs (ivtv and 
pvrusb2 drivers)






Then a:

aptitude search ivtv


 ~$ aptitude search ivtv
p   firmware-ivtv  - Binary firmware for 
iTVC15-family MPEG codecs (ivtv and
p   ivtv-source- source for ivtv 
drivers (1.0.x branch)
p   ivtv-utils - utilities for use 
with the ivtv kernel driver
p   libvideo-ivtv-perl - Perl extension for 
using V4l2 in the ivtv perl scripts
p   xserver-xorg-video-ivtv- X.Org X server -- 
IVTV display driver
p   xserver-xorg-video-ivtv-dbg- X.Org X server -- 
IVTV display driver (debug symbols)



~$ ls /lib/firmware
total 4
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 Apr  5  2010 av7110
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 Apr  5  2010 cis
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 Apr  5  2010 dsp56k
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 Apr  5  2010 keyspan_pda




should put you on the right track.



I assume that I should install firmware-ivtv.  What about ivtv-tools? 
Does it have anything necessary?  Useful?



Marc


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Re: Newbie video editing question

2010-11-30 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
30/11/2010 16:28, Marc Shapiro wrote:
 On 11/30/10 01:03, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 apt-file search v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw

 firmware-ivtv: /lib/firmware/v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw

 
 ~$ apt-file search v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw
 bash: apt-file: command not found
 
 ~$ apt-cache search v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw
 firmware-ivtv - Binary firmware for iTVC15-family MPEG codecs (ivtv and
 pvrusb2 drivers)
 
 


 Then a:

 aptitude search ivtv
 
 ~$ aptitude search ivtv
 p   firmware-ivtv  - Binary firmware for
 iTVC15-family MPEG codecs (ivtv and
 p   ivtv-source- source for ivtv
 drivers (1.0.x branch)
 p   ivtv-utils - utilities for use
 with the ivtv kernel driver
 p   libvideo-ivtv-perl - Perl extension for
 using V4l2 in the ivtv perl scripts
 p   xserver-xorg-video-ivtv- X.Org X server --
 IVTV display driver
 p   xserver-xorg-video-ivtv-dbg- X.Org X server --
 IVTV display driver (debug symbols)
 
 
 ~$ ls /lib/firmware
 total 4
 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 Apr  5  2010 av7110
 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 Apr  5  2010 cis
 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 Apr  5  2010 dsp56k
 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 Apr  5  2010 keyspan_pda
 
 
 
 should put you on the right track.
 
 
 I assume that I should install firmware-ivtv.  What about ivtv-tools?
 Does it have anything necessary?  Useful?
 
 
 Marc
 

Sorry, I answered in a hurry in between two other things. apt-file is
a tool you have you to install separately, it's useful for searching
what package a file belongs to even if the package isn't installed.
Given the messages you get you definitely need the firmware package
firmware-ivtv. Installing ivtv-tools is probably a good idea, it will
let you access and set some options on the card (talk to the card from
the command line). As usual man ivtv-tools is a good starting point.
I don't own such hardware so I cannot help you with the specific of this
card.


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Re: Newbie video editing question

2010-11-30 Thread Rob Owens
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 09:47:53PM -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote:
 On 11/29/10 16:52, Rob Owens wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 09:31:10PM -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote:
 First off, I'm a video editing newbie.  Not a linux newbie.  I've been
 running Debian since Bo.

 I have a lot of video tapes lying around and I am afraid they will
 degrade over time.  Also, since they are not making tapes any more (or
 VCRs?) I expect it will be difficult to repair my two VCRs when they
 start to die on me.  So I want to convert my analog tapes to digital
 files while I can and write them out to DVD.

 When I mentioned this to a friend, he pulled out a WinTV card, using a
 Hauppauge PVR-250.  Are there drivers for this in the standard kernel
 tree, or do I need to get them from somewhere?

 This works in Lenny and is auto-detected.

 Well, I have installed the card, but it is not initializing correctly.  
 For one thing, in appears to be a PVR-150 (not PVR-250).  These appear  
 to be the pertinent output sections of dmesg showing that, and also  
 showing what looks like a successful initialization and an unsuccessful  
 loading of firmware at the very end:

I forgot about the firmware.  I think this is the page I used for
guidance when I built my MythTV system with a PVR-150:

http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Firmware

-Rob


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Re: Newbie video editing question

2010-11-29 Thread Marc Shapiro

On 11/28/10 23:10, Camaleón wrote:

On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 21:31:10 -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote:

When I mentioned this to a friend, he pulled out a WinTV card, using a
Hauppauge PVR-250.  Are there drivers for this in the standard kernel
tree, or do I need to get them from somewhere?


As per this doc:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_PVR-250

The card seems to be supported under v4l drivers that come with modern
stock kernels.


Thanks, that's good to know.


Also, what is the best capture and editing software for a newbie with
minimal needs.  No flame wars, please.  I know that Cinelerra is
available, but I don't know what else there is, or how easy they are to
use.  For now all I really need to do is capture the analog signal from
a VCR and save it to a file.  Then I want to edit out the commercials,
possibly combine multiple files, and then save the resulting file to a
dvd iso that can be mounted directly and played back, or written to a
dvd.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_editing_software


I had seen this site before, then forgot about it.  Thanks for posting 
the link.



PiTiVi, OpenShot and Kino are the easy-ones (in the line of Windows Movie
Maker).


I'll give PiTiVi and Kino a shot as soon as I get the card installed. 
Is OpenShot a Debian package?  I couldn't find it.



Cinelerra and Kdenlive are more complete (like Adobe Premiere).


I thought Cinelerra was overkill.  I can always install it later if I 
decide I need more control and functionality.  Since I avoid KDE (I keep 
things simple with FVWM2) Kdenlive would be a last resort.



Avidemux and LiVES could be another option.


Thanks, again.  Now I have someplace to start my experimenting.

Marc


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Re: Newbie video editing question

2010-11-29 Thread Marc Shapiro

On 11/29/10 04:24, Paul Cartwright wrote:

First off, I'm a video editing newbie.  Not a linux newbie.  I've been
running Debian since Bo.

I have a lot of video tapes lying around and I am afraid they will
degrade over time.  Also, since they are not making tapes any more (or
VCRs?) I expect it will be difficult to repair my two VCRs when they
start to die on me.  So I want to convert my analog tapes to digital
files while I can and write them out to DVD.

ever thought about MythTV?? or is that overkill..


For now, that would certainly be overkill.  Of course, now that I have a 
compatible card, there is no telling what I might do down the line.


Marc


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Re: Newbie video editing question

2010-11-29 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 07:19:14 -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote:

 On 11/28/10 23:10, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

 PiTiVi, OpenShot and Kino are the easy-ones (in the line of Windows
 Movie Maker).
 
 I'll give PiTiVi and Kino a shot as soon as I get the card installed. Is
 OpenShot a Debian package?  I couldn't find it.

Humm... it's available for Squeeze/Sid but not Lenny (sorry, I didn't 
notice you were running stable) :-(

http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/openshot
 
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Re: Newbie video editing question

2010-11-29 Thread Marc Shapiro
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 07:19:14 -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote:

 On 11/28/10 23:10, Camaleón wrote:

 (...)

 PiTiVi, OpenShot and Kino are the easy-ones (in the line of Windows
 Movie Maker).

 I'll give PiTiVi and Kino a shot as soon as I get the card installed. Is
 OpenShot a Debian package?  I couldn't find it.

 Humm... it's available for Squeeze/Sid but not Lenny (sorry, I didn't
 notice you were running stable) :-(

I seem not to have mentioned it.  My bad.  If nothing else works for
me then I could update to Squeeze.  I'm running it on my netbook
without any problems, but the desktop still has Lenny.  My wife and
daughter use the desktop also, so I have three concurrent logins and
three concurrent X sessions.  I want all the stability that I can get.

Marc


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Re: Newbie video editing question

2010-11-29 Thread Rob Owens
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 09:31:10PM -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote:
 First off, I'm a video editing newbie.  Not a linux newbie.  I've been  
 running Debian since Bo.

 I have a lot of video tapes lying around and I am afraid they will  
 degrade over time.  Also, since they are not making tapes any more (or  
 VCRs?) I expect it will be difficult to repair my two VCRs when they  
 start to die on me.  So I want to convert my analog tapes to digital  
 files while I can and write them out to DVD.

 When I mentioned this to a friend, he pulled out a WinTV card, using a  
 Hauppauge PVR-250.  Are there drivers for this in the standard kernel  
 tree, or do I need to get them from somewhere?

This works in Lenny and is auto-detected.

 Also, what is the best capture and editing software for a newbie with  
 minimal needs.  No flame wars, please.  I know that Cinelerra is  
 available, but I don't know what else there is, or how easy they are to  
 use.  For now all I really need to do is capture the analog signal from  
 a VCR and save it to a file.  Then I want to edit out the commercials,  
 possibly combine multiple files, and then save the resulting file to a  
 dvd iso that can be mounted directly and played back, or written to a 
 dvd.

This will work to capture from your input card:

cat /dev/video0  test.mpg

I think it defaults to capturing from the coax input.  You can try the
various ivtv commands to change that.

Pitivi and Devede are pretty decent and simple for editing and authoring
dvd's.  So are most of the packages others have already mentioned.

-Rob


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Re: Newbie video editing question

2010-11-29 Thread Marc Shapiro

On 11/29/10 16:18, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On 11/29/2010 06:09 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote:

I seem not to have mentioned it.  My bad.  If nothing else works for
me then I could update to Squeeze.  I'm running it on my netbook
without any problems, but the desktop still has Lenny.  My wife and
daughter use the desktop also, so I have three concurrent logins and
three concurrent X sessions.  I want all the stability that I can get.

if they use KDE, you might wanna think about that.. going to squeeze
will require kde4...
I am still using lenny because of that.

No worries there.  I avoid KDE and any apps that use its libraries like 
the plague.  I used to use a few KDE apps (kate, in particular) but 
artsd kept messing up my sound so that I had to kill it to get any sound 
back.  I got tired of that real fast and purged anything to do with KDE. 
 My laptop runs gnome, since it was installed from scratch.  The 
desktop, however, which has been upgraded, or had parts moved from one 
box to another since Bo, is running FVWM2.


Marc


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Re: Newbie video editing question

2010-11-29 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 4cf46610.3040...@gmail.com, Marc Shapiro wrote:
I used to use a few KDE apps (kate, in particular) but
artsd kept messing up my sound so that I had to kill it to get any sound
back.

ARTSd is dead is KDE SC 4.  KDE SC 4 does include Phonon, a common API or A/V 
manipulations, but it does not have a daemon component.  Phonon will simply 
talk to PulseAudio, JACK, ALSA, or OSS--however you configure it.  I'm not 
entirely sure what the defaults are, but it is designed to cleanly fallback 
when (e.g.) PulseAudio is missing, even if it was present last time you 
started KDE SC 4.

I hear Kate is also even more awesome in KDE SC 4 than it was in KDE 3.  I 
don't use it though.
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Re: Newbie video editing question

2010-11-29 Thread Marc Shapiro

On 11/29/10 16:52, Rob Owens wrote:

On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 09:31:10PM -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote:

First off, I'm a video editing newbie.  Not a linux newbie.  I've been
running Debian since Bo.

I have a lot of video tapes lying around and I am afraid they will
degrade over time.  Also, since they are not making tapes any more (or
VCRs?) I expect it will be difficult to repair my two VCRs when they
start to die on me.  So I want to convert my analog tapes to digital
files while I can and write them out to DVD.

When I mentioned this to a friend, he pulled out a WinTV card, using a
Hauppauge PVR-250.  Are there drivers for this in the standard kernel
tree, or do I need to get them from somewhere?


This works in Lenny and is auto-detected.


Well, I have installed the card, but it is not initializing correctly. 
For one thing, in appears to be a PVR-150 (not PVR-250).  These appear 
to be the pertinent output sections of dmesg showing that, and also 
showing what looks like a successful initialization and an unsuccessful 
loading of firmware at the very end:


-
[   10.496469] Linux video capture interface: v2.00
[   10.778863] ivtv: Start initialization, version 1.4.1
[   10.779040] ivtv0: Initializing card 0
[   10.779091] ivtv0: Autodetected Hauppauge card (cx23416 based)
[   10.808083] ivtv :00:08.0: PCI INT A - GSI 18 (level, low) - IRQ 18
[   10.880224] tveeprom 0-0050: Hauppauge model 26032, rev C199, serial# 
8164408
[   10.880283] tveeprom 0-0050: tuner model is TCL 2002N 5H (idx 99, 
type 50)

[   10.880337] tveeprom 0-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
[   10.880390] tveeprom 0-0050: audio processor is CX25841 (idx 35)
[   10.880442] tveeprom 0-0050: decoder processor is CX25841 (idx 28)
[   10.880494] tveeprom 0-0050: has no radio, has IR receiver, has IR 
transmitter

[   10.880557] ivtv0: Autodetected Hauppauge WinTV PVR-150
[   10.880607] ivtv0: Reopen i2c bus for IR-blaster support



[   12.667545] cx25840 0-0044: cx25841-23 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
[   14.118219] tuner 0-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
[   14.529890] wm8775 0-001b: chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
[   15.371353] tuner-simple 0-0061: creating new instance
[   15.371410] tuner-simple 0-0061: type set to 50 (TCL 2002N)
[   15.372369] IRQ 18/ivtv0: IRQF_DISABLED is not guaranteed on shared IRQs
[   15.373626] ivtv0: Registered device video0 for encoder MPG (4096 kB)
[   15.374463] ivtv0: Registered device video32 for encoder YUV (2048 kB)
[   15.374601] ivtv0: Registered device vbi0 for encoder VBI (1024 kB)
[   15.374678] ivtv0: Registered device video24 for encoder PCM (320 kB)
[   15.374731] ivtv0: Initialized card: Hauppauge WinTV PVR-150



[   46.500015] ivtv :00:08.0: firmware: requesting v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw
[   46.570501] ivtv0: Unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw (must 
be 376836 bytes)
[   46.570570] ivtv0: Did you put the firmware in the hotplug firmware 
directory?

[   46.570634] ivtv0: Retry loading firmware
[   47.192019] ivtv :00:08.0: firmware: requesting v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw
[   47.200641] ivtv0: Unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw (must 
be 376836 bytes)
[   47.200710] ivtv0: Did you put the firmware in the hotplug firmware 
directory?

[   47.200775] ivtv0: Failed to initialize on minor 2
[   47.207908] ivtv0: Failed to initialize on minor 0
[   47.214245] ivtv0: Failed to initialize on minor 3
[   47.221233] ivtv0: Failed to initialize on minor 1
-

Am I missing something, somewhere?  Should I have received a disk with 
firmware that I need to install somewhere?  Can said firmware be 
downloaded from somewhere on th Hauppauge site?


Never having done any of this before, I am now at a loss.  Can someone 
point me in the right direction?


Marc


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Newbie video editing question

2010-11-28 Thread Marc Shapiro
First off, I'm a video editing newbie.  Not a linux newbie.  I've been 
running Debian since Bo.


I have a lot of video tapes lying around and I am afraid they will 
degrade over time.  Also, since they are not making tapes any more (or 
VCRs?) I expect it will be difficult to repair my two VCRs when they 
start to die on me.  So I want to convert my analog tapes to digital 
files while I can and write them out to DVD.


When I mentioned this to a friend, he pulled out a WinTV card, using a 
Hauppauge PVR-250.  Are there drivers for this in the standard kernel 
tree, or do I need to get them from somewhere?


Also, what is the best capture and editing software for a newbie with 
minimal needs.  No flame wars, please.  I know that Cinelerra is 
available, but I don't know what else there is, or how easy they are to 
use.  For now all I really need to do is capture the analog signal from 
a VCR and save it to a file.  Then I want to edit out the commercials, 
possibly combine multiple files, and then save the resulting file to a 
dvd iso that can be mounted directly and played back, or written to a dvd.


Marc Shapiro


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Re: Newbie video editing question

2010-11-28 Thread godo

On 11/29/2010 06:31 AM, Marc Shapiro wrote:

First off, I'm a video editing newbie.  Not a linux newbie.  I've been
running Debian since Bo.

I have a lot of video tapes lying around and I am afraid they will
degrade over time. Also, since they are not making tapes any more (or
VCRs?) I expect it will be difficult to repair my two VCRs when they
start to die on me. So I want to convert my analog tapes to digital
files while I can and write them out to DVD.

When I mentioned this to a friend, he pulled out a WinTV card, using a
Hauppauge PVR-250. Are there drivers for this in the standard kernel
tree, or do I need to get them from somewhere?

Also, what is the best capture and editing software for a newbie with
minimal needs. No flame wars, please. I know that Cinelerra is
available, but I don't know what else there is, or how easy they are to
use. For now all I really need to do is capture the analog signal from a
VCR and save it to a file. Then I want to edit out the commercials,
possibly combine multiple files, and then save the resulting file to a
dvd iso that can be mounted directly and played back, or written to a dvd.

Marc Shapiro



Hi,
for video editing I'm using Kdenlive.
He has option for firewire, screen grab, video4linux and of course input 
from hdd.

You can make your own rendering template, modified his or just use his.
If you wont edit video there are time-line for video and audio, project 
monitor, record monitor, clip monitor etc.

You can find lots audio and video effect, title editor, dvd wizard etc.

This is how he looks http://dobosevic.com/nix/kdenlive.png
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Re: Newbie video editing question

2010-11-28 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 21:31:10 -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote:

 First off, I'm a video editing newbie.  Not a linux newbie.  I've been
 running Debian since Bo.
 
 I have a lot of video tapes lying around and I am afraid they will
 degrade over time.  Also, since they are not making tapes any more (or
 VCRs?) I expect it will be difficult to repair my two VCRs when they
 start to die on me.  So I want to convert my analog tapes to digital
 files while I can and write them out to DVD.
 
 When I mentioned this to a friend, he pulled out a WinTV card, using a
 Hauppauge PVR-250.  Are there drivers for this in the standard kernel
 tree, or do I need to get them from somewhere?

As per this doc:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_PVR-250

The card seems to be supported under v4l drivers that come with modern 
stock kernels.
 
 Also, what is the best capture and editing software for a newbie with
 minimal needs.  No flame wars, please.  I know that Cinelerra is
 available, but I don't know what else there is, or how easy they are to
 use.  For now all I really need to do is capture the analog signal from
 a VCR and save it to a file.  Then I want to edit out the commercials,
 possibly combine multiple files, and then save the resulting file to a
 dvd iso that can be mounted directly and played back, or written to a
 dvd.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_editing_software

PiTiVi, OpenShot and Kino are the easy-ones (in the line of Windows Movie 
Maker).

Cinelerra and Kdenlive are more complete (like Adobe Premiere).

Avidemux and LiVES could be another option.

Greetings,

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