Re: Cannot read newsgroups with new Thunderbird

2022-10-08 Thread Max Nikulin

On 07/10/2022 01:14, piorunz wrote:

On 06/10/2022 00:05, Ralph Katz wrote:


news://news.gmane.io/gmane.linux.debian.user   and replying directly to
debian-user.


Wow! Is this free service?


The story of gmane:

https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2020/01/15/news-gmane-org-is-now-news-gmane-io/




Re: Cannot read newsgroups with new Thunderbird

2022-10-07 Thread Curt
On 2022-10-06, piorunz  wrote:
> On 06/10/2022 20:38, Curt wrote:
>
>> server: news.gmane.io
>>
>> newsgroup: gmane.linux.debian.user
>
> It worked! Thanks. Does it support TLS, by any chance? Or
> username/password, to prevent spoofing?

I don't know.

> Can posts be sent from this newsgroup directly to debian list, or its
> read only?

Bidirectional gateway.

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Re: Cannot read newsgroups with new Thunderbird

2022-10-06 Thread piorunz

On 06/10/2022 20:38, Curt wrote:


server: news.gmane.io

newsgroup: gmane.linux.debian.user


It worked! Thanks. Does it support TLS, by any chance? Or
username/password, to prevent spoofing?
Can posts be sent from this newsgroup directly to debian list, or its
read only?

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Re: Cannot read newsgroups with new Thunderbird

2022-10-06 Thread Curt
On 2022-10-06, piorunz  wrote:
> On 06/10/2022 00:05, Ralph Katz wrote:
>
>> I'm reading your post on Thunderbird 102.3.0 in bullseye (debian stable)
>> from newsgroup gmane.linux.debian.user at
>> news://news.gmane.io/gmane.linux.debian.user   and replying directly to
>> debian-user.
>
> Wow! Is this free service? So we can actually have debian-user group as
> newsgroup in usenet reader? I went to this page (https://news.gmane.io/)
> but it does not say anything how to use it.

server: news.gmane.io

newsgroup: gmane.linux.debian.user

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Re: Cannot read newsgroups with new Thunderbird

2022-10-06 Thread piorunz

On 06/10/2022 00:05, Ralph Katz wrote:


I'm reading your post on Thunderbird 102.3.0 in bullseye (debian stable)
from newsgroup gmane.linux.debian.user at
news://news.gmane.io/gmane.linux.debian.user   and replying directly to
debian-user.


Wow! Is this free service? So we can actually have debian-user group as
newsgroup in usenet reader? I went to this page (https://news.gmane.io/)
but it does not say anything how to use it.

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Re: Cannot read newsgroups with new Thunderbird

2022-10-06 Thread Max Nikulin

On 05/10/2022 20:08, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
After a recent Thunderbird upgrade in Buster (from version 91-something 
to 101-something, or like), it stopped handling newsgroups properly 
(where the source is News Server (NNTP) on the same machine, and there 
nothing was changed/upgraded).


If you can provide steps to reproduce then it may be reasonable to 
report the issues to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org Likely you will be 
asked to confirm the problem for the latest release or daily build.


A part of NNTP has been reimplemented since Thunderbird-91, I am unsure 
concerning Kamil's suggestion to switch back to the older one. There are 
enough bugs in the latter as well. On the other hand my issues was 
related to network latency or lost packets. In some aspects behavior of 
Thunderbird-102 should be better, but I am not surprised by new bugs.




Re: Cannot read newsgroups with new Thunderbird

2022-10-06 Thread Miroslav Skoric

On 10/6/22 1:05 AM, Ralph Katz wrote:

On 10/5/22 07:08, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
After a recent Thunderbird upgrade in Buster (from version 
91-something to 101-something, or like), it stopped handling 
newsgroups properly (where the source is News Server (NNTP) on the 
same machine, and there nothing was changed/upgraded).


To be precise, Thunderbird now seems downloading new messages from the 
NNTP server, then shows the new number of messages in the folder pane, 
but displays an empty content in the message pane, i.e. Subject and 
From columns are empty, while Date column is filled with 1/1/70 - for 
all news messages that arrived since the Thunderbird upgrade.


Btw, handling personal emails (from the local POP Mail Server) is ok.

Any idea?

Misko


I'm reading your post on Thunderbird 102.3.0 in bullseye (debian stable) 
from newsgroup gmane.linux.debian.user at
news://news.gmane.io/gmane.linux.debian.user   and replying directly to 
debian-user.


The upgrade to Thunderbird 102.3.0 was seamless.  So thunderbird does 
the job for newsgroups, at least in bullseye.


Good luck!

Ralph




I am using buster, not bullseye.



Re: Cannot read newsgroups with new Thunderbird

2022-10-05 Thread Kamil Jońca
Miroslav Skoric  writes:

> After a recent Thunderbird upgrade in Buster (from version
> 91-something to 101-something, or like), it stopped handling
> newsgroups properly (where the source is News Server (NNTP) on the
> same machine, and there nothing was changed/upgraded).
>
> To be precise, Thunderbird now seems downloading new messages from the
> NNTP server, then shows the new number of messages in the folder pane,
> but displays an empty content in the message pane, i.e. Subject and
> From columns are empty, while Date column is filled with 1/1/70 - for
> all news messages that arrived since the Thunderbird upgrade.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1788102 ?

You may try to set "mailnews.nntp.jsmodule" to "false"

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Re: Cannot read newsgroups with new Thunderbird

2022-10-05 Thread Ralph Katz

On 10/5/22 07:08, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
After a recent Thunderbird upgrade in Buster (from version 91-something 
to 101-something, or like), it stopped handling newsgroups properly 
(where the source is News Server (NNTP) on the same machine, and there 
nothing was changed/upgraded).


To be precise, Thunderbird now seems downloading new messages from the 
NNTP server, then shows the new number of messages in the folder pane, 
but displays an empty content in the message pane, i.e. Subject and From 
columns are empty, while Date column is filled with 1/1/70 - for all 
news messages that arrived since the Thunderbird upgrade.


Btw, handling personal emails (from the local POP Mail Server) is ok.

Any idea?

Misko


I'm reading your post on Thunderbird 102.3.0 in bullseye (debian stable) 
from newsgroup gmane.linux.debian.user at
news://news.gmane.io/gmane.linux.debian.user   and replying directly to 
debian-user.


The upgrade to Thunderbird 102.3.0 was seamless.  So thunderbird does 
the job for newsgroups, at least in bullseye.


Good luck!

Ralph



Cannot read newsgroups with new Thunderbird

2022-10-05 Thread Miroslav Skoric
After a recent Thunderbird upgrade in Buster (from version 91-something 
to 101-something, or like), it stopped handling newsgroups properly 
(where the source is News Server (NNTP) on the same machine, and there 
nothing was changed/upgraded).


To be precise, Thunderbird now seems downloading new messages from the 
NNTP server, then shows the new number of messages in the folder pane, 
but displays an empty content in the message pane, i.e. Subject and From 
columns are empty, while Date column is filled with 1/1/70 - for all 
news messages that arrived since the Thunderbird upgrade.


Btw, handling personal emails (from the local POP Mail Server) is ok.

Any idea?

Misko



TIP: Iceape Mail and Newsgroups (Outlook Express gibi bir Mail- ve News-Reader)

2008-12-16 Thread Adem

Windows'tan Linux'a gecip Linux'ta Outlook/OutlookExpress gibi bir
Mail- ve News-Reader arayanlara Iceape paketindeki Iceape Mail and Newsgroups
programini gönülden tavsiye ederim.
Ben iki hafta önce tamamen Linux'a gectim ve pek memnunum.


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Google no longer searches newsgroups?

2007-02-18 Thread Roby
Looks like Google has dropped archive searches of newsgroups.
Anybody have any suggestions of what to use now?



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Re: Google no longer searches newsgroups?

2007-02-18 Thread Kelly Clowers

On 2/18/07, Roby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Looks like Google has dropped archive searches of newsgroups.
Anybody have any suggestions of what to use now?


They didn't drop it. Just click more (above the search bar) and then groups.


Cheers,
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T-Online-Newsgroups mit Evolution

2006-08-16 Thread Wolfgang Hartter
Hallo zusammen,

ich versuche schon geraume Zeit vergeblich, über Ximian Evolution (unter
Debian) Postings an Newsgroups von T-Online zu schicken.
T-Online bietet natürlich keinen Support für Evolution...

Abonnieren und Lesen funktioniert, jedoch kann ich keine Postings
schicken.

Der Account wurde natürlich für T-Online eingerichtet und ich wähle mich
damit auch ein.
Abrufen über news.t-online.de funktioniert (Servertyp: USENET-News).

Das Verschicken versuche ich über smtp.t-online.de (keine
Verschlüsselung) unter Verwendung meiner T-Online Daten. Das
Veröffentlichen in:-Feld setze ich als Empfänger (kein An:/ to:) -
z.B. t-online.test.
Ich kann das Posting senden, bekomme dann aber eine Robot-Antwort
zurück, in der verschiedene Fehler-Ursachen beschrieben sind. U.a. auch,
dass der Header in einem falschen Format sein könne.

Geht das Senden von Postings mit Evolution generell?
Hat jemand dieses Problem schon mal gelöst?
Wenn der Header die Ursache sein sollte - wie/wo kann man den Header
in/für Evolution konfigurieren?

... eine Anleitung zu News über T-Online mit den genauen und
beschriebenen Einstellungs-Parametern wäre natürlich ganz gut :-)

Momentan benutze ich Knode - damit funktioniert alles. Ich würde aber
doch gerne News mit Evolution nicht nur lesen, sondern auch schreiben
können.

Gruß
Wolfgang Hartter






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Re: T-Online-Newsgroups mit Evolution

2006-08-16 Thread Andreas Kroschel
* Wolfgang Hartter:

 Das Verschicken versuche ich über smtp.t-online.de (keine
 Verschlüsselung) unter Verwendung meiner T-Online Daten. Das
 Veröffentlichen in:-Feld setze ich als Empfänger (kein An:/ to:) -
 z.B. t-online.test.

Das kann nichts werden. News gehen nicht an einen smtp-, sondern an
einen nntp-Server.

 Ich kann das Posting senden, bekomme dann aber eine Robot-Antwort
 zurück, in der verschiedene Fehler-Ursachen beschrieben sind. U.a. auch,
 dass der Header in einem falschen Format sein könne.

Und da hat der Roboter recht.

 Momentan benutze ich Knode - damit funktioniert alles. Ich würde aber
 doch gerne News mit Evolution nicht nur lesen, sondern auch schreiben
 können.

Ale generell fauler Mensch würde ich ja einfach die knode-Einstellungen
bei Evolution ebenfalls verwenden.

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Re: About newsgroups related to debian lists

2006-05-25 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Rodolfo Medina wrote:

 In my experience, it is possible to read and send messages to debian lists
 in at least three ways: e.g., the present one: 
 via `debian-user' mailing list; through `linux.debian.user' newsgroup;
 through `gmane.linux.debian.user' newsgroup.

 Now, I realised that `gmane.linux.debian.user' preserves the message's
 original headers, whereas `linux.debian.user' changes the Message ID
 into a different value.

 I'd like to know other users' experience about this matter:
 is it normal? Does it maybe depend on the nntp server?
 What can you tell about it?
 


Paul Johnson wrote:

 Different mail to news gateways.  The gmane.* heirarchy is generally the
 best mail to news gateways.



T [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 2nd to that. 



Sorry, what do you mean with `2nd to that'? (My English is not very good.)
Maybe you mean there's a newsgroup hierarchy that works even better
than gmane.* with news gateways?



T:

 Moreover, Rodolfo, are you sure that you can post to linux.debian.user?



Yes, I can, I subscribed the linux-gate mailing list.
Cheers,
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Re: About newsgroups related to debian lists

2006-05-25 Thread T
On Wed, 24 May 2006 22:39:47 +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

 Paul Johnson wrote:

 Different mail to news gateways.  The gmane.* heirarchy is generally
 the best mail to news gateways.
 
 T [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 2nd to that.
 
 Sorry, what do you mean with `2nd to that'? (My English is not very good.)
 Maybe you mean there's a newsgroup hierarchy that works even better than
 gmane.* with news gateways?

Oh, I was just saying, I agree with that.

 Moreover, Rodolfo, are you sure that you can post to linux.debian.user?
 
 Yes, I can, I subscribed the linux-gate mailing list. Cheers, Rodolfo

thanks for the info. 



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Re: About newsgroups related to debian lists

2006-05-24 Thread T
On Sun, 21 May 2006 10:11:28 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:

 On Sunday 21 May 2006 09:18, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
 
 Now, I realised that `gmane.linux.debian.user' preserves the message's
 original headers, whereas `linux.debian.user' changes the Message ID
 into a different value.
 
 Different mail to news gateways.  The gmane.* heirarchy is generally the
 best mail to news gateways.

2nd to that. 

Moreover, Rodolfo, are you sure that you can post to linux.debian.user?

tong



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About newsgroups related to debian lists

2006-05-21 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Hi, all.

In my experience, it is possible to read and send messages to debian lists
in at least three ways: e.g., the present one: 
via `debian-user' mailing list; through `linux.debian.user' newsgroup;
through `gmane.linux.debian.user' newsgroup.

Now, I realised that `gmane.linux.debian.user' preserves the message's
original headers, whereas `linux.debian.user' changes the Message ID
into a different value.

I'd like to know other users' experience about this matter:
is it normal? Does it maybe depend on the nntp server?
What can you tell about it?

Thanks,
Rodolfo


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Re: About newsgroups related to debian lists

2006-05-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday 21 May 2006 09:18, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

 Now, I realised that `gmane.linux.debian.user' preserves the message's
 original headers, whereas `linux.debian.user' changes the Message ID
 into a different value.

Different mail to news gateways.  The gmane.* heirarchy is generally the best 
mail to news gateways.

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Almost 3000 Debian Newsgroups

2006-05-02 Thread Daniel L. McGrew
That one worked... there are almost 3000 Debian groups... 
Quite a few... 
I found an awesome group for newbies like me with over 2860 messages... 
There is also a group for kernel newbies with 15,743 messages... WOW... 
If you want a good MS newsgroup and you probably already know this one,
news.microsoft.com... there are thousands of groups in there also... 
Thanks again,
Most sincerely,
Dan
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whosoever should believe in him should not perish but have everlasting live
 - John 3:16 GOD's Holy BIBLE



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From: Christopher Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 6:57 PM
To: Daniel L. McGrew
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: News Readers

On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 06:39:46PM -0500, Daniel L. McGrew wrote:
   Am I doing a better job of pruning??? 
   That newsgroup address didn't work either... says that it can't find
 the server... 
   What would I type into the address bar to get to it, the url???
   So far I'm using 'Outlook Express'... and I've tried;
   gmane.linux.debian.user
   lists.debian.org 
   linux.debian.user

Sorry, I mis-understood the question.  The server you want is
news.gmane.org

And yes, your .sig is much better.



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NewsGroups - U-Br Debian

2005-10-27 Thread Pedro Müller



 Galera,
  A U-Br, 
a USENETBrasileira dispõe de um grupo só para Debian ( 
u-br.comp.so.linux.dist.debian ). Para quem não conhece o sistema de 
newsgroups,a vantagem de newsgroups é que se tem uma boa organização das 
postagens além de não ser centralizado em apenas um servidor e não fica lotando 
sua caixa postal pois não usa seu e-mail. Além de não ter que ficar solicitando 
por e-mail para seinscrever ou sair. 
Para acessar é fácil,basta selecionar um 
servidor(http://www.ubr.inf.br/wiki/Servidores) 
configurar o Mozilla Thunderbird. Seestiver 
usando Outlook,basta clicar aqui -- news://news.secret.com.br 

Convido para que conheçam os outros grupos da U-Br, 
pois são muitos interessantes.
  Quem quiser 
saber mais sobre a U-Br - www.ubr.inf.br 


Pedro Müller



Re: Newsgroups for Debian

2005-09-09 Thread kooto (sent by Nabble.com)

Another Debian searchable archive/forum (bi-directional for posting) is hosted by Nabble, it's clean and fast: http://www.nabble.com/Debian-f24.html

Sent from the Debian User forum at Nabble.com.


Re: Newsgroups for Debian

2005-09-07 Thread Adam McCarthy

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Don't forget gmane.org.




ty, Gmane works awesomely. I heard of it before but never really used it.


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Newsgroups for Debian

2005-09-06 Thread Scott Schreiber
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Marc Wilson wrote:

 No and yes (mostly). But the gateway used to be one-way, where
 what you posted in the ng didn't go back to the ML. I have no idea
 if that's still the case.

It is.

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Re: Newsgroups for Debian

2005-09-06 Thread Howard Eisenberger
On 2005-09-06, Marc Wilson wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 08:56:48PM -0400, Adam wrote:
 Are the linux.debian newsgroups offical? Also, are they mailing list
 copies?

 No and yes (mostly).  But the gateway is used to be one-way, where what you
 posted in the ng didn't go back to the ML.  I have no idea if that's still
 the case.

Let's see. I'm posting this to the newsgroup, and I am subscribed
to linux-gate at lists.bofh.it .

Regards,

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Re: Newsgroups for Debian

2005-09-06 Thread Bill Wohler
antgel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Scott Schreiber wrote:
 Marc Wilson wrote:
 
 
No and yes (mostly). But the gateway used to be one-way, where
what you posted in the ng didn't go back to the ML. I have no idea
if that's still the case.
 
 
 It is.

 It isn't.

Posted via gmane.linux.debian.user. If you got this via the mailing
list, that should answer your question.

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Re: Newsgroups for Debian

2005-09-06 Thread Scott
antgel wrote:
 Scott Schreiber wrote:
 
Marc Wilson wrote:



No and yes (mostly). But the gateway used to be one-way, where
what you posted in the ng didn't go back to the ML. I have no idea
if that's still the case.


It is.
 
 
 It isn't.

Well my experience is that my repeated posts to the NG fell on deaf
ears, but when I sent the very same message to the email address, I got
answers to my question.  I thought I read somewhere that it was one-way,
but I can't seem to find anything on it right now.

Scott


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Re: Newsgroups for Debian

2005-09-06 Thread Roel Schroeven

Scott wrote:


antgel wrote:


Scott Schreiber wrote:



Marc Wilson wrote:





No and yes (mostly). But the gateway used to be one-way, where
what you posted in the ng didn't go back to the ML. I have no idea
if that's still the case.



It is.



It isn't.



Well my experience is that my repeated posts to the NG fell on deaf
ears, but when I sent the very same message to the email address, I got
answers to my question.  I thought I read somewhere that it was one-way,
but I can't seem to find anything on it right now.


I remember a similar discussion from about half a year ago (or maybe 
more). Some people thought the gateway was one-way, others insisted it 
works both ways.


My posts to the newsgroup never appeared on the mailing list, so I stood 
firmly in the camp of the non-believers. Now maybe it's possible that 
the gateway works both ways but that there's something else wrong, such 
as incorrectly configure news servers at ISP's.


Whatever the case, newsgroup to ML doesn't work for many people. I 
started using gmane, which works both ways without problems, and I never 
looked back.


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OT: history of science Re: Newsgroups for Debian

2005-09-06 Thread Carl Fink
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 04:41:52AM +0200, Roel Schroeven wrote:

 If I have been able to see further, it was only because I stood
 on the shoulders of giants.  -- Isaac Newton

A slam at his dwarfish rival, Hooke, and not modesty.
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Re: Newsgroups for Debian

2005-09-06 Thread Marc Wilson
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 12:39:26PM +, Howard Eisenberger wrote:
 On 2005-09-06, Marc Wilson wrote:
  No and yes (mostly).  But the gateway is used to be one-way, where what you
  posted in the ng didn't go back to the ML.  I have no idea if that's still
  the case.
 
 Let's see. I'm posting this to the newsgroup, and I am subscribed
 to linux-gate at lists.bofh.it .

Well, that seems to answer that... the gateway is bi-directional. :)

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Re: Newsgroups for Debian

2005-09-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Don't forget gmane.org.



Newsgroups for Debian

2005-09-05 Thread Adam
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Re: Newsgroups for Debian

2005-09-05 Thread Michael Marsh
On 9/5/05, Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Are the linux.debian newsgroups offical? Also, are they mailing list copies?

They're mirrors of the lists at lists.debian.org

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Re: Newsgroups for Debian

2005-09-05 Thread Marc Wilson
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 08:56:48PM -0400, Adam wrote:
 Are the linux.debian newsgroups offical? Also, are they mailing list
 copies?

No and yes (mostly).  But the gateway is used to be one-way, where what you
posted in the ng didn't go back to the ML.  I have no idea if that's still
the case.

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MuttNG mit Newsgroups nutzen

2005-04-29 Thread Andreas Pakulat
Hi,

ich wollte endlich mal den NG-Support in MuttNG ausprobieren und stosse
grad auf folgendes Problem: Ich hab keine Ahnung :-)

Ich kriege ohne Probleme per Hand eine NG geoeffnet und kann die Posts
lesen und ich schaetze selbst posten ginge auch, was mir fehlt waere,
dass diese NG in der Sidebar erscheint oder wenigstens weniger
umstaendlich erreichbar waere (muss erst i druecken und dann ? und
dann die NG auswaehlen, oder selbst den Namen eintippen). 

Ich hab das Manual _nicht_ komplett gelesen, aber greps nach news, nntp
und subscribe sowie sidebar haben keine entsprechenden
Konfigurationsmoeglichkeiten zum Vorschein gebracht. Sollte dem wirklich
so sein, muss ich wohl doch noch nen richtigen News-Client
installieren...

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Re: Betrifft:Scanner funktioniert nicht mehr, , article in Newsgroups: linux.debian.user.german -- nochmal ich

2005-04-24 Thread Carsten Schmidt
Bernd Schwendele schrieb:
Carsten Schmidt schrieb:
hallo, nochmal ich,
wir haben quasi die gleichen Vorraussetzungen,
brody:
Linux brody 2.6.8-1-686-smp #1 SMP Thu Nov 25 04:55:00 UTC 2004 i686 
GNU/Linux
Sarge

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sane-find-scanner
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found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON], product=0x011d [EPSON 
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...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/sane.d/dll.conf
plustek

seit jahren schon die plustek.conf für den scanner
gruß carsten
Du hast also Debian Sarge und nen Epson Perfection 1260... Bei mir wars 
so, dass xsane gar keinen scanner mehr gefunden hat, ich aber mit 
sane-find-scanner das gleiche Ergebnis wie Du geliefert bekommen hab.
Ich habe mir irgendwann dummerweise das Paket libsane-extras 
installiert, weil da in der Beschreibung was von Epson-Scanner stand. 
Dachte mit denen läufts evtl. besser als mit dem Plustek! Nahc der 
Installation des Pakets habe ich das wohl vergessen, dass ich es 
installiert habe und schwubs, war ich überrascht, dass nach einigen 
Wochen keinen Scannen mehr möglich war. Um es kurz zu machen:
Die Lösung des Problems, war die deinstall. des libsane-extras Paketes 
und der Scanner war mir wieder Untertan :-)
Schaust einfach mal nach, vielleicht hast ja auch druff.
Gruß
 Bernd

geanau, xsane hat ebenfalls keinen scanner mehr gesehen -
und tatsächlich libsane-extras war der böse Bube -- wobei, warum?
die dll hat doch nach wie vor auf die plustek.conf gewiesen ...
egal -- danke -- es funzt!
solltest glatt noch eine Notiz in Deinen thread reinschreiben.
gruß Carsten

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Re: Betrifft:Scanner funktioniert nicht mehr, , article in Newsgroups: linux.debian.user.german -- nochmal ich

2005-04-24 Thread Bernd Schwendele
Carsten Schmidt schrieb:
[...]
geanau, xsane hat ebenfalls keinen scanner mehr gesehen -
und tatsächlich libsane-extras war der böse Bube -- wobei, warum?
die dll hat doch nach wie vor auf die plustek.conf gewiesen ...
egal -- danke -- es funzt!
solltest glatt noch eine Notiz in Deinen thread reinschreiben.
Wieso, steht doch schon drin...
Subject: [solved]Re: Scanner funktioniert nicht mehr
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Re: Re: Re: Une equivalent des Newsgroups avev mutt

2004-12-10 Thread Aurelien Roux
(Re) Bonjour a tous

Donc j'ai teste un peu slrn, mais j'ai quelques petits soucis que je
suis tres loin de pouvoir gerer seul, etant donne qu'ils sont dus au
fait que je suis avec ma machine perso sur le reseau d'une fac, et que
je ne connais pas grand chose au reseau.

Donc voila, j'ai configure slrn avec comme *nom pour les courriels* :

roux.univ-lemans.fr

qui est le nom de ma machine suivi du nom de domaine de la fac.

Le probleme, c'est que pour le mail, mon serveur SMTP a un nom
different de type (je sais pas si c'est dangereux de le donner, donc je
ne l'ecris pas) :

.univ-lemans.fr

sur lequel j'ai un login (s99), qui est different de celui que j'ai
sur mon pc (wlad).

Resultat, lorsque je reponds a mon topic de test, rien n'apparait sur la
liste debian, par contre je recois (dans mutt) un mail de 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] qui est donc l'utilisateur sous lequel je
travaille.

Donc je ne sais pas du tout comment orienter la configuration de slrn
pour que je puisse repondre a la liste directement dessus...

Pour info, pour lire mes mails sous mutt, j'ai un postfix qui est
configure avec les bonnes donnees pour envoyer au serveur mail de ma
fac.

Merci d'avance.



Re: Une equivalent des Newsgroups avev mutt

2004-12-10 Thread Francois Cerbelle
Le Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 09:45:28AM +0100, Aurelien Roux ecrit :
 Le probleme, c'est que pour le mail, mon serveur SMTP a un nom
 different de type (je sais pas si c'est dangereux de le donner, donc je
 ne l'ecris pas) :
 .univ-lemans.fr

C'est dans les en-tetes de tes courriers : caravelle
ou dans les DNS.

 Donc je ne sais pas du tout comment orienter la configuration de slrn
 pour que je puisse repondre a la liste directement dessus...
---end quoted text / fin de citation---

J'ai l'impression que tu confonds deux trucs : 
- les courriers qui partent avec un protocole (SMTP) sur un port
  réseau (25) depuis un client de messagerie (mutt) vers un serveur 
  de messagerie (Postfix) puis qui sont récupéres depuis un serveur de
  messagerie (ipop ou autre) par le client (mutt) avec un protocole
  (POP)
- les news qui communiquent avec un protocole (NNTP) sur un port
  réseau (119) entre un serveur (inn ou autre) et un client (slrn)

Un serveur de messagerie, par precaution et pour limiter le spam
n'accepte que les courriers du reseau local vers n'importe ou et les
courrier de l'exterieur vers le reseau local, mais pas les courriers
de l'exterieur vers l'exterieur (pour faire simple). Pour pouvoir
ecrire, tu dois donc utiliser le serveur de messagerie du reseau sur
lequel tu te trouve (ton bureau de poste de quartier). Ce que tu fais
tres bien. Par contre, tu peux les consulter depuis l'interieur comme
depuis l'exterieur.

Pour les news, c'est un peu pareil sauf qu'il n'y a qu'un seul
serveur et un seul protocole.  Il y a encore des serveurs de news
ouverts, mais il y en a beaucoup qui n'acceptent les connexions que
depuis leur reseau local.  Certains acceptent que tu consultes depuis
l'exterieur, mais pas que tu postes. Je pense que c'est ton cas.
Utilises-tu bien le serveur de news de ta fac ?

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Re: Re: Un equivalent des Newsgroups avev mutt

2004-12-10 Thread Aurelien Roux
Salut

 Le Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 09:45:28AM +0100, Aurelien Roux ecrit :
 Le probleme, c'est que pour le mail, mon serveur SMTP a un nom
 different de type (je sais pas si c'est dangereux de le donner, donc
 je
 ne l'ecris pas) :
 .univ-lemans.fr

 C'est dans les en-tetes de tes courriers : caravelle
 ou dans les DNS.

lol... bon ok, je vous avais prevenu, ca n'est vraiment pas mon fort!!!

 Donc je ne sais pas du tout comment orienter la configuration de slrn
 pour que je puisse repondre a la liste directement dessus...

 J'ai l'impression que tu confonds deux trucs :

a mon avis, beaucoup plus ;-)

 - les courriers qui partent avec un protocole (SMTP) sur un port
 réseau (25) depuis un client de messagerie (mutt) vers un serveur
 de messagerie (Postfix) puis qui sont récupéres depuis un serveur de
 messagerie (ipop ou autre) par le client (mutt) avec un protocole
 (POP)

ouais ok, ca, ca va maintenant, ou presque!

 - les news qui communiquent avec un protocole (NNTP) sur un port
 réseau (119) entre un serveur (inn ou autre) et un client
 (slrn)

Ca je ne connais pas, mais l'idee c'est que moi effectivement je precise
le port 119 (NNTP, donc), mais le probleme c'est que derriere au niveau
du reseau de ma fac, je n'ai aucune idee de ce qui se passe!

 Un serveur de messagerie, par precaution et pour limiter le spam
 n'accepte que les courriers du reseau local vers n'importe ou et les
 courrier de l'exterieur vers le reseau local, mais pas les courriers
 de l'exterieur vers l'exterieur (pour faire simple). 

Pas bien compris... En quoi une newsgroups est-elle du courrier de
l'exterieur vers l'exterieur?

 Pour pouvoir
 ecrire, tu dois donc utiliser le serveur de messagerie du reseau sur
 lequel tu te trouve (ton bureau de poste de quartier). Ce que tu fais
 tres bien. Par contre, tu peux les consulter depuis l'interieur comme
 depuis l'exterieur.

huok!

 Pour les news, c'est un peu pareil sauf qu'il n'y a qu'un seul
 serveur et un seul protocole.  Il y a encore des serveurs de news
 ouverts, mais il y en a beaucoup qui n'acceptent les connexions que
 depuis leur reseau local.  Certains acceptent que tu consultes depuis
 l'exterieur, mais pas que tu postes. Je pense que c'est ton cas.

Bah je suis un peu douteux, dans la mesure ou quand j'etais avec mozilla
messenger, je pouvais repondre au newsgroups debian-user-french, sans
passer par le compte qui etait defini avec le serveur de messagerie,
etc. Enfin je veux dire mon utilisateur pour le courrier c'est
Aurelien.Roux CHEZ univ-lemans.fr, et les newsgroups c'etait Wladimir
Ohrelianov II avec [EMAIL PROTECTED] comme adresse
passee... Et pourtant je pouvais repondre avec Wladimir Ohrelianov II a
la liste debian.
Mouais, je sais pas si j'ai ete super clair, la... Mais bon en meme
temps j'attends les limites de mes capacites.

 Utilises-tu bien le serveur de news de ta fac ?

Aucune idee, comment puis-je le verifier?

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Re: Un equivalent des Newsgroups avev mutt

2004-12-10 Thread Francois Cerbelle
Le Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 11:48:29AM +0100, Aurelien Roux ecrit :
  Un serveur de messagerie, par precaution et pour limiter le spam
  n'accepte que les courriers du reseau local vers n'importe ou et
  les courrier de l'exterieur vers le reseau local, mais pas les
  courriers de l'exterieur vers l'exterieur (pour faire simple). 
 
 Pas bien compris... En quoi une newsgroups est-elle du courrier de
 l'exterieur vers l'exterieur?

Là, je te parle de messagerie, pas de news.

  Pour les news, c'est un peu pareil sauf qu'il n'y a qu'un seul
  serveur et un seul protocole.  Il y a encore des serveurs de news
  ouverts, mais il y en a beaucoup qui n'acceptent les connexions
  que depuis leur reseau local.  Certains acceptent que tu consultes
  depuis l'exterieur, mais pas que tu postes. Je pense que c'est ton
  cas.
 
 Bah je suis un peu douteux, dans la mesure ou quand j'etais avec
 mozilla messenger, je pouvais repondre au newsgroups
 debian-user-french, sans passer par le compte qui etait defini avec
 le serveur de messagerie, etc. Enfin je veux dire mon utilisateur
 pour le courrier c'est Aurelien.Roux CHEZ univ-lemans.fr, et les
 newsgroups c'etait Wladimir Ohrelianov II avec
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] comme adresse passee... Et
 pourtant je pouvais repondre avec Wladimir Ohrelianov II a
 la liste debian.

Dans un cas comme dans l'autre, messagerie ou news, tu dois
configurer ton logiciel pour qu'il utilise le serveur de ton point de
connexion. Car ce sera un des seuls serveurs sur lesquels tu pourras
ecrire.

  Utilises-tu bien le serveur de news de ta fac ?
 Aucune idee, comment puis-je le verifier?
Edition / Preferences du compte / compte de news / serveur

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Re: Re: Re: Un equivalent des Newsgroups avev mutt

2004-12-10 Thread Aurelien Roux
 newsgroups c'etait Wladimir Ohrelianov II avec
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] comme adresse passee... Et
 pourtant je pouvais repondre avec Wladimir Ohrelianov II a
 la liste debian.

 Dans un cas comme dans l'autre, messagerie ou news, tu dois
 configurer ton logiciel pour qu'il utilise le serveur de ton point de
 connexion. Car ce sera un des seuls serveurs sur lesquels tu pourras
 ecrire.

Desole, je suis vraiment un, noob, mais qu'entends-tu par point de
connexion? Le serveur qui me donne acces a internet?


  Utilises-tu bien le serveur de news de ta fac ?
 Aucune idee, comment puis-je le verifier?
 Edition / Preferences du compte / compte de news / serveur

Bah justement, c'est la premiere chose que j'avais faite pour configurer
slrn, donc j'avais ete voir dans mozilla messenger, et il n'y avait que
news.gmane.org...
Le truc que je ne saisis pas en plus, c'est que sachant que c'est tout
news.gmane.org qui est ecrit, comment se fait-il que je n'avais la
debian-user-french (chose que j'avais demande), parce que la, j'ai
carrement toutes les listes, et c'est galere Mais c'est un autre
probleme, bien secondaire.

Merci d'avance.

Aurelien






Re: Re: Re: Un equivalent des Newsgroups avev mutt

2004-12-10 Thread Aurelien Roux
OK, j'ai compris l'origine du probleme... Ou dumoins j'ai compris
pourquoi avant je pouvais...
Dans la configuration du compte de Newsgroup de mozilla messenger,
j'avais precise d'utiliser le serveur smtp mel.univ-lemans.fr pour
repondre a la liste, c'est pour ca que ca fonctionnait.

Alors du coup, est-ce que je peux faire un truc du style avec slrn? Il
ne me semble pas, en tout cas ca n'apparait pas dans la config de base.

Merci

Aurelien



Re: Un equivalent des Newsgroups avev mutt

2004-12-10 Thread Francois Cerbelle
Le Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 02:53:28PM +0100, Aurelien Roux ecrit :
  newsgroups c'etait Wladimir Ohrelianov II avec
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] comme adresse passee... Et
  pourtant je pouvais repondre avec Wladimir Ohrelianov II a
  la liste debian.
 
  Dans un cas comme dans l'autre, messagerie ou news, tu dois
  configurer ton logiciel pour qu'il utilise le serveur de ton point de
  connexion. Car ce sera un des seuls serveurs sur lesquels tu pourras
  ecrire.
 
 Desole, je suis vraiment un, noob, mais qu'entends-tu par point de
 connexion? Le serveur qui me donne acces a internet?

Le serveur de news de ton fournisseur d'accès (la fac, en l'occurence)

   Utilises-tu bien le serveur de news de ta fac ?
  Aucune idee, comment puis-je le verifier?
  Edition / Preferences du compte / compte de news / serveur
 
 Bah justement, c'est la premiere chose que j'avais faite pour configurer
 slrn, donc j'avais ete voir dans mozilla messenger, et il n'y avait que
 news.gmane.org...

Je ne suis pas certain que tu aies les droits de poster des messages
depuis ton PC sur news.gmane.org sans passer par l'interface www. Je
ne l'utilise pas, je ne peux pas t'en dire plus.

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Re: Re: Un equivalent des Newsgroups avev mutt

2004-12-09 Thread Aurelien Roux
Bonjour

OK, je vais tenter slrn deja pour voir.

Par contre pour la deuxieme solution, je n'ai pas tout compris (voire
rien), et c'est ennuyeux, car ca semble adapte a mon cas, car la seule
Newsgroup que je consulte est la debian-user-french...
Enfin si l'idee c'est de recuperer tous les messages sur mon PC, ca ne
m'interesse pas trop, c'est pour ca que je voudrais rester avec juste
les headers qui sont telecharges, et si un sujet m'interesse, hop, je
rentre dedans.

Merci a tous.

A bientot



Re: Un equivalent des Newsgroups avev mutt

2004-12-09 Thread Francois Cerbelle
Le Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 01:49:21PM +0100, Aurelien Roux ecrit :
 Par contre pour la deuxieme solution, je n'ai pas tout compris
 (voire rien), et c'est ennuyeux, car ca semble adapte a mon cas, car
 la seule Newsgroup que je consulte est la debian-user-french...
 Enfin si l'idee c'est de recuperer tous les messages sur mon PC, ca
 ne m'interesse pas trop, c'est pour ca que je voudrais rester avec
 juste les headers qui sont telecharges, et si un sujet m'interesse,
 hop, je rentre dedans.
---end quoted text / fin de citation---

La premiere solution consulte les messages depuis un serveur de news,
c'est donc toi qui va les chercher comme tu l'entends, la seconde te
pousse les messages dans ta boite à lettres et tu as tous les
messages...

D'après tes critères, la seconde solution n'est pas celle que tu
recherches.

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Un equivalent des Newsgroups avev mutt

2004-12-08 Thread Aurelien Roux
Bonjour a tous

Je suis un peu depite parce que depuis que je suis passe a l'equipe
mutt/procmail/fetchmail/postfix/spamassassin (dans le desordre), je n'ai
pas trouve comment faire pour consulter les messages d'une liste a la
maniere des newsgroups dans mozilla. Du coup je ne peux plus lire la
debian-user-french sans aller sur le net, et ca m'ennuie.

Qu'est-ce que je dois passer dans fetchmailrc pour un truc comme ca?
J'ai pense a mettre IMAP comme protocole, mais comme je n'y connais
rien...

Merci

A plus tard...

Aurelien



Re: Un equivalent des Newsgroups avev mutt

2004-12-08 Thread Sébastien Mengin
Le mer 08 déc 04 à 15:30, Aurelien Roux a écrit:
 Bonjour a tous

Salut,

 Qu'est-ce que je dois passer dans fetchmailrc pour un truc comme ca?
 J'ai pense a mettre IMAP comme protocole, mais comme je n'y connais
 rien...

Pendant un moment j'ai utilisé mutt comme lecteur de news... mais c'est
pas l'idéal, sincèrement.

Pour répondre à ta demande : il y a plusieurs patchs disponibles sur
internet, qui permettent de compiler mutt pour faire ce que tu veux.

Google donne plusieurs pistes.

Sinon, je te conseille slrn, qui n'est vraiment pas difficile à utiliser
ni à configurer.

Amicalement,

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Re: Un equivalent des Newsgroups avev mutt

2004-12-08 Thread Francois Cerbelle
Le Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 03:30:31PM +0100, Aurelien Roux ecrit :
 Je suis un peu depite parce que depuis que je suis passe a l'equipe
 mutt/procmail/fetchmail/postfix/spamassassin (dans le desordre), je n'ai
 pas trouve comment faire pour consulter les messages d'une liste a la
 maniere des newsgroups dans mozilla. Du coup je ne peux plus lire la
 debian-user-french sans aller sur le net, et ca m'ennuie.
 
 Qu'est-ce que je dois passer dans fetchmailrc pour un truc comme ca?
 J'ai pense a mettre IMAP comme protocole, mais comme je n'y connais
 rien...
---end quoted text / fin de citation---

Coucou Aurélien,

slrn est une premiere solution pour TOUS les newsgroups, mais, si
c'est pour debian, tu peux aussi t'abonner aux mailling-lists... Il y
a une passerelle entre les news et les ML debian ! Donc, tu restes en
full-power... Euh, je voulais dire full-mutt ! ;-)

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Re: Newsgroups

2004-11-20 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 05:49:39PM +0100, Andreas Neiser wrote:
 Daniel Franke wrote:
 gibt es auch einen newsgroup server für die debian mailinglists??
 
 http://www.gmane.org
Die meisten Mailinglisten sind auch ueber linux.debian.* auf vielen
Newsservern zu erreichen. Wobei ich grade nicht weiss ob da auch
ein Posten drueber moeglich ist.

Sven
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Newsgroups

2004-11-18 Thread Daniel Franke
Hi,
gibt es auch einen newsgroup server für die debian mailinglists??
mfg Daniel
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Re: Newsgroups

2004-11-18 Thread Andreas Kneib
* Daniel Franke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 gibt es auch einen newsgroup server für die debian mailinglists??

news.gmane.org


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Re: Newsgroups

2004-11-18 Thread Andreas Neiser
Daniel Franke wrote:
gibt es auch einen newsgroup server für die debian mailinglists??
http://www.gmane.org
bis dann
andi
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Re: Newsgroups

2004-11-18 Thread Andreas Kroschel
* Daniel Franke:

 gibt es auch einen newsgroup server für die debian mailinglists??

news.gmane.org

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Re: Pan zeigt nicht mehr alle verfügbaren Newsgroups an

2004-08-13 Thread Gernot Sadlo
Am Thu, 12 Aug 2004 22:20:07 +0200 schrieb Christian Christmann:

 Hallo,
 
 seit einigen Zeit zeigt mir der Newsreader Pan nicht
 mehr alle verfügbaren Newsgroups an. Wenn ich mir alle
 Gruppen anzeigen lassen will, werden nur einige zur Auswahl
 angezeigt. Auf einem anderem Rechner mit identischen
 Einstellungen klappt das Anzeigen hingegen einwandfrei.
 
 Ich nutze pan 0.14.2.91 aus dem Sarge tree.
 
 Igendwelche Lösungsvorschläge?

Hmm, in Suchen  ist leer ?

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Pan zeigt nicht mehr alle verfügbaren Newsgroups an

2004-08-12 Thread Christian Christmann
Hallo,

seit einigen Zeit zeigt mir der Newsreader Pan nicht
mehr alle verfügbaren Newsgroups an. Wenn ich mir alle
Gruppen anzeigen lassen will, werden nur einige zur Auswahl
angezeigt. Auf einem anderem Rechner mit identischen
Einstellungen klappt das Anzeigen hingegen einwandfrei.

Ich nutze pan 0.14.2.91 aus dem Sarge tree.

Igendwelche Lösungsvorschläge?

Danke
Gruß
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Re: is it possible to use newsgroups?

2003-11-28 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
mighty sword wrote:
Hi,

I am new to all this lists stuff. I have primarily
used newsgroups readers till now. I have just
subscribed to debian-user list from my linuxmail
account, found that inconvenient and unsubscribed, and
again subscribed from this yahoo account.
So from this new email account, how do I reply to the
messages that I had read in my linuxmail account?
And even though I have subscribed to this list, can I
instead use linux.debian.user or
gmane.linux.debian.user to read and post messages? Is
it me or is that the newsgroups and newsreaders are
much more convenient and organized to read/post
messages?
-HS

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Re: is it possible to use newsgroups?

2003-11-28 Thread Paul Morgan
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 00:30:54 +, Anita Lewis wrote:

 
 I agree with you.  I am using gmane.linux.debian.user. I am not subscribed
 to the list - I save those messages that I want to keep and don't need to
 download them all. You cannot post to the list from linux.debian.user - that
 one recieves the list mail, but doesn't send it.  I think the best way would
 be gmane, because then your message will find its way into the thread.  If
 you send to the list from yahoo, you can duplicate the Subject, but it
 doesn't end up threading properly. 
 
 Reading from the archives isn't bad either, but it is much easier to post
 from the newsgroup.  When you read from the archives, you still have the
 problem of bringing up an email client and duplicating the Subject and so
 on.
 
 Yeah, linuxmail is about as cumbersome as it gets.  Too bad.  
 
 Anita

Thanks, Anita.  It's kind of clumsy and annoying getting the entire list
via email one bit at a time.  Kind of like a Chinese water torture.

Thanks to you and gmane I am now much happier, especially as I get to read
and post using the extremely nifty Pan newsreader :)

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Re: is it possible to use newsgroups?

2003-11-27 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 at 22:04 GMT, mighty sword penned:
 
 And even though I have subscribed to this list, can I instead use
 linux.debian.user or gmane.linux.debian.user to read and post
 messages? Is it me or is that the newsgroups and newsreaders are much
 more convenient and organized to read/post messages?
 


I use the gmane mirror exclusively.

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Re: is it possible to use newsgroups?

2003-11-27 Thread Anita Lewis
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:04:39 -0800 (PST), mighty sword wrote:
 Hi,

 I am new to all this lists stuff. I have primarily
 used newsgroups readers till now. I have just
 subscribed to debian-user list from my linuxmail
 account, found that inconvenient and unsubscribed, and
 again subscribed from this yahoo account.

 So from this new email account, how do I reply to the
 messages that I had read in my linuxmail account?

 And even though I have subscribed to this list, can I
 instead use linux.debian.user or
 gmane.linux.debian.user to read and post messages? Is
 it me or is that the newsgroups and newsreaders are
 much more convenient and organized to read/post
 messages?


 -HS

I agree with you.  I am using gmane.linux.debian.user. I am not subscribed
to the list - I save those messages that I want to keep and don't need to
download them all. You cannot post to the list from linux.debian.user - that
one recieves the list mail, but doesn't send it.  I think the best way would
be gmane, because then your message will find its way into the thread.  If
you send to the list from yahoo, you can duplicate the Subject, but it
doesn't end up threading properly. 

Reading from the archives isn't bad either, but it is much easier to post
from the newsgroup.  When you read from the archives, you still have the
problem of bringing up an email client and duplicating the Subject and so
on.

Yeah, linuxmail is about as cumbersome as it gets.  Too bad.  

Anita


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Mozilla Mail und Newsgroups

2003-11-01 Thread Björn Alexander Binder
Hi!

Ich nutze den Mozilla Mail Client für die Newsgroups. Gibt es eine 
Möglichkeit die Beiträge in einer Tree-Übersicht anzeigen zu lassen? Ich 
hätte gerne die entsprechenden Beiträge sortiert ...

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Re: Mozilla Mail und Newsgroups

2003-11-01 Thread Heino Tiedemann
Björn Alexander Binder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ich nutze den Mozilla Mail Client für die Newsgroups. Gibt es eine
 Möglichkeit die Beiträge in einer Tree-Übersicht anzeigen zu lassen?
 Ich hätte gerne die entsprechenden Beiträge sortiert ...

Mich wundert, das es nicht per default so ist. Warscheinlich musste
das einfach nur irgendwo einstellen mit einem Maus-Rechtsklick oder so.

Ansonnsten lies doch einfach mal die Newsgroup:
 de.comm.software.mozilla.mailnews  

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Re: Mozilla Mail und Newsgroups

2003-11-01 Thread Weinzierl Stefan
Heino Tiedemann schrieb:
Björn Alexander Binder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ich nutze den Mozilla Mail Client für die Newsgroups. Gibt es eine
Möglichkeit die Beiträge in einer Tree-Übersicht anzeigen zu lassen?
Ich hätte gerne die entsprechenden Beiträge sortiert ...
Hier im Mozilla-Thunderbird heißt der entsprechende Eintrag 'Thema' und 
ist zu finden links in der Kopfzeile, in der auch Betreff Absender usw. 
angezeigt werden. Einfach ein paar mal draufklichen und Mozilla sortiert um.

Stefan

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Re: Mozilla Mail und Newsgroups

2003-11-01 Thread Andreas Richter
Björn Alexander Binder wrote:

 Hi!
 
 Ich nutze den Mozilla Mail Client für die Newsgroups. Gibt es eine
 Möglichkeit die Beiträge in einer Tree-Übersicht anzeigen zu lassen? Ich
 hätte gerne die entsprechenden Beiträge sortiert ...

Nimm die Überschrift der Nachrichtenanzeige zum sortieren. Da ist auch eine
Spalte für Thread-Anzeige dabei. 

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does slrn host a collection of all newsgroups only temporarly?

2003-01-06 Thread Robert Land
I'm new to slrn and did a apt-get install a few weeks
ago. I'm not that sure anymore but I thought apt-get
had prompted for a valid news server while being
in installation mode. 
Addionaly I also thought slrn had pulled all newsgroups
from the prompted newsserver (at least I have this
warning about 'it could take a few minutes' in my mind).

After this installation I didn't bother about this 
programm - up to today - realizing there was no
.newsrc or .jnewsrc on my disk.

Would someone kindly clarify?


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Re: does slrn host a collection of all newsgroups only temporarly?

2003-01-06 Thread J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)
On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 14:49:09 +0100, Robert Land wrote:
 I'm new to slrn and did a apt-get install a few weeks ago. I'm not that
 sure anymore but I thought apt-get had prompted for a valid news server
 while being in installation mode. 
 Addionaly I also thought slrn had pulled all newsgroups from the prompted
 newsserver (at least I have this warning about 'it could take a few
 minutes' in my mind).
 
 After this installation I didn't bother about this programm - up to today
 - realizing there was no .newsrc or .jnewsrc on my disk.

It asks whether to fetch the newsgroup descriptions (not their content -
that takes quite a bit longer than a few minutes) which it caches in
/var/lib/slrn/newsgroups.dsc .

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Re: does slrn host a collection of all newsgroups only temporarly?

2003-01-06 Thread Robert Land
On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 03:40:55PM +0100, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 14:49:09 +0100, Robert Land wrote:
  I'm new to slrn and did a apt-get install a few weeks ago. I'm not that
  sure anymore but I thought apt-get had prompted for a valid news server
  while being in installation mode. 
  Addionaly I also thought slrn had pulled all newsgroups from the prompted
  newsserver (at least I have this warning about 'it could take a few
  minutes' in my mind).
  
  After this installation I didn't bother about this programm - up to today
  - realizing there was no .newsrc or .jnewsrc on my disk.
 
 It asks whether to fetch the newsgroup descriptions (not their content -
 that takes quite a bit longer than a few minutes) which it caches in
 /var/lib/slrn/newsgroups.dsc .
 
 HTH,
 Ray

I thought of all active newsgroups on the nntp server (I guess
you meant that by the newsgroup descriptions) - yes - not
their contents.
The action the docs describe by using the -create flag.
Grepping in the root dir (apt-get install only seems to work
in su modi) or in the spool directories resulted in no 
success.

Robert


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Re: Newsgroups gehen nicht mehr

2002-12-02 Thread Andreas Suess
Moin Moin

'A News (NNTP) error occured: You don't have the permisson to talk, Goodby'
 Scheint so, als wenn sich deine Einloggdaten geändert haben.
Heißt das, ich muß einen neuen Account anlegen, oder kann ich die 
irgendwo umschalten?

Es könnte z.B. sein, das du einen freien Newsserver benutzt (wird
nicht deutlich) und dieser nun nicht mehr frei ist. Dann brauchst du
einen Account.

Schönen Tag noch,
Andreas


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Newsgroups gehen nicht mehr

2002-11-29 Thread Malte Thoma
Hallo,

eigentlich ist mit dem Titel schon (fast) alles gesagt:

Wenn ich (mit mozilla) auf einen meiner newsgroups-accounts gehe, 
bekomme ich die Fehlermeldung, daß ich keine Erlaubnis habe:

'A News (NNTP) error occured: You don't have the permisson to talk, Goodby'

Nun frage ich mich, woran das liegen kann (an der (öffentlichen) 
newsgroup (irgendeine LaTeX-Liste) wohl kaum.

Wo kann ich suchen?

Fragt sich Malte Thoma

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target prot opt source   destination

Chain FORWARD (policy DROP)
target prot opt source   destination

Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
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Re: Newsgroups gehen nicht mehr

2002-11-29 Thread Andreas Suess
Moin Moin

'A News (NNTP) error occured: You don't have the permisson to talk, Goodby'

Scheint so, als wenn sich deine Einloggdaten geändert haben.

Schönen Tag noch,
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Re: Newsgroups gehen nicht mehr

2002-11-29 Thread Malte Thoma


Andreas Suess wrote:

Moin Moin



'A News (NNTP) error occured: You don't have the permisson to talk, Goodby'



Scheint so, als wenn sich deine Einloggdaten geändert haben.


Heißt das, ich muß einen neuen Account anlegen, oder kann ich die 
irgendwo umschalten?

Malte


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Re: Newsgroups gehen nicht mehr

2002-11-29 Thread Konrad Neitzel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
 Andreas Suess wrote:

  Scheint so, als wenn sich deine Einloggdaten geändert haben.

 Heißt das, ich muß einen neuen Account anlegen, oder kann ich 
 die irgendwo umschalten?

Du solltest einmal schauen, ob die Daten, mit denen Du Dich auf dem 
Newsserver anmeldest, noch stimmen.

Es kann sein, dass sich an der Konfiguration des Newsservers etwas 
geändert hat (z.B. Zugriffsbeschränkungen eingeführt oder falls Du 
schon einen Account hattest eine Veränderung am Account wie Löschung, 
Sperrung, Modifikation, ...) oder bei Dir hat sich etwas geändert (z.B. 
Wechsel des Providers und damit dann auch wechsel des IP Netzes. (Der T-
Online Newsserver lässt IMHO z.B. nur T-Online User auf den Server.)

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Mozilla and newsgroups

2002-05-05 Thread Mike Fontenot

After I installed mozilla (from potato) and executed it
the first time, I clicked on tasks - mail, and it
popped up a wizard window to allow me to set up mail
and newsgroups.  But it wouldn't let me select BOTH
mail AND newsgroups for setup...so I selected mail.  Once
I had entered all the mail server info, mozilla crashed
with a segmentation fault.  When I restarted it, mail
worked OK, but I can't get it to let me setup newsgroups.
When I click on edit - mailnews_account_settings, it only
shows info about mail...there seems to be no way that I can
specify a name for my newsgroup server.

Anyone know how I can get newsgroups working?

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Re: Mozilla and newsgroups

2002-05-05 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Mike Fontenot ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020505 09:20]:
 
 After I installed mozilla (from potato) and executed it

Mozilla has come a long way. Potato's version is quite old; the current
versions approaching a 1.0 release hardly resemble the old M18 milestone
release, and have come leaps and bounds in the area of stability. I
strongly suggest that you try a more current mozilla. If this is a
desktop machine (not a server or other that has strong availability
requirements preventing it from the risk of doing so) I'd recommend
moving forwards towards woody and its version of mozilla.

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Re: cliente de newsgroups

2002-02-24 Thread Toms Snchez Santos
El vie 22 de feb de 2002, a las 05:15:58 -0500, Eduardo J. Gargiulo dijo:

 Alguien me puede recomendar algún lector de noticias para debian
 potato?

slrn. Tienes un tutorial muy bueno en
http://www.escomposlinux.org/sromero/linux/slrn-tut.html

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2002-02-22 Thread Eduardo J. Gargiulo
Alguien me puede recomendar algún lector de noticias para debian
potato?

gracias

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Re: cliente de newsgroups

2002-02-22 Thread aktin0s
On 22.02.2002, Eduardo J. Gargiulo wrote:

 Alguien me puede recomendar algún lector de noticias para debian
 potato?
 
 gracias
 
 ~ejg

Tienes para elegir: slrn, tin, pan, gnus, pine, trn, uqwk..
Personalmente, yo uso slrn :)

Saludos.

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cliente de newsgroups

2002-02-22 Thread synthespian

PAN



Re: Mutt y los newsgroups

2001-11-30 Thread Diego M. Illera
Si te refieres a listas como esta, tienes que añadir al fichero de
configuración:
lists debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Saludos.

El vie, 30-11-2001 a las 02:09, Santiago Pastorino escribió:
 ¿Alguien sabe como poder acceder a un newsgroup con mutt?
 Gracias.




Re: Mutt y los newsgroups

2001-11-30 Thread Jesus Angel del Pozo
Santiago Pastorino([EMAIL PROTECTED])@29.11.2001 22:09:06 +:
 ¿Alguien sabe como poder acceder a un newsgroup con mutt?

Hay un patch por ahí para acceder a grupos de noticias con mutt, búscalo
por www.deja.com. De todas formas yo te recomendaría utilizar slrn.
Tiene  un estilo similar a mutt.

Después de todo una de las filosofías de UNIX es: lo pequeño es bello.
En lugar de hacer un programa para leer el correo y los grupos de
noticias creo que los programas serán más potentes si se centran sólo en
un aspecto.

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Mutt y los newsgroups

2001-11-29 Thread Santiago Pastorino
¿Alguien sabe como poder acceder a un newsgroup con mutt?
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Re: Can't post to newsgroups . . . at wits end!

2001-08-13 Thread Aquarion
On Thu, 09 Aug 2001 21:18:00 GMT, in linux.debian.user you wrote:

Talk about your Catch-22's!!

I'm at my brother's housesitting for him.  He's got 6 computers sharing an
@home cable account via a pre-potato firewall/router.  I brought my laptop
(yellowdog) to do work, and can surf, send and receive email, and receive
news postings.  But I cannot post myself  I get

Error 440:  Posting Not Allowed.

I figure it has something to do with his firewall.  Any idea?

Are you using the @home newsswerver(a), or the one on your brother's
network(b)?

If A:
Possibly an ISP problem, try from one of the boxes on the 
network (assumably *he* can use Usenet)

If B:
He has configured his servers not to let anyone outside his 
local network post to the server, for Sensible and Correct 
reasons. Since your laptop isn't on the list of Allowed 
People, you can't post.

*probably*

Yours In Total Sincerity

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Re: *Could someone please post this to linux.debian.user and linux.dev.debian newsgroups*

2001-07-26 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 05:59:21PM -0500, DvB ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 George wrote:
  *Could someone please post this to linux.debian.user and linux.dev.debian
  newsgroups - my news server is not working atm - exclude this part :-)*
 
  
 
 
 Why don't you try http://www.deja.com? They've got their own news
 server...

In case you've been sleeping, Deja's dead, its archive has been aquired
by Google.  The page currently redirects to Google's Usenet search page.

http://groups.google.com/ will provide search-and-post functionality for
Usenet-via-Web.

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Re: *Could someone please post this to linux.debian.user and linux.dev.debian newsgroups*

2001-07-26 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 11:00:41PM +0100, George ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 *Could someone please post this to linux.debian.user and linux.dev.debian
 newsgroups - my news server is not working atm - exclude this part :-)*
 
 Hi , does anyone know how I can using ip aliasing with the
 /etc/network/interfaces (debian method). I could easily add another startup
 script with ifconfigs and routes, but that would be messy and uncalled for
 and I'm sure someone must have done it before and got it right. Nomatter
 what I've tried neither my pcmcia eth0 device is configured, (although the
 module for it loads fine) nor are any of the aliases configured. I've tried
 the following lines :
 
 auto lo eth0 eth0:1 eth0:2// Didn't work
 auto lo eth0// Didn't work

My /etc/network/interfaces has an auto line for each appropriate
interface:

auto lo
lo device config

auto eth0
eth0 device config


There's also a package, netenv, which is supposed to allow you to choose
a network configuration at boot time.  I've installed it but not yet
figured out how to configure it.  Seems like a good idea though

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Re: *Could someone please post this to linux.debian.user and linux.dev.debian newsgroups*

2001-07-26 Thread DvB

Karsten M. Self wrote:

on Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 05:59:21PM -0500, DvB ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:


George wrote:


*Could someone please post this to linux.debian.user and linux.dev.debian
newsgroups - my news server is not working atm - exclude this part :-)*



Why don't you try http://www.deja.com? They've got their own news
server...



In case you've been sleeping, Deja's dead, its archive has been aquired
by Google.  The page currently redirects to Google's Usenet search page.

http://groups.google.com/ will provide search-and-post functionality for
Usenet-via-Web.




I currently post messages using deja/google-groups (just posted one this 
morning). They've been allowing posts for quite some time now. I am, 
however, using my old deja account and don't know if they allow new 
sign-ups...




Re: *Could someone please post this to linux.debian.user and linux.dev.debian newsgroups*

2001-07-26 Thread Hall Stevenson
  http://groups.google.com/ will provide
  search-and-post functionality for Usenet-via-Web.
 
 

 I currently post messages using deja/google-groups
 (just posted one this morning). They've been allowing
 posts for quite some time now. I am, however, using
 my old deja account and don't know if they allow new
 sign-ups...

I just signed up and posted via Google this morning. New
username and all. I do have an old Deja account, but didn't
even think to try it, nor do I necessarily remember the
details of it, i.e. username and password ;-)

Hall



*Could someone please post this to linux.debian.user and linux.dev.debian newsgroups*

2001-07-25 Thread George
*Could someone please post this to linux.debian.user and linux.dev.debian
newsgroups - my news server is not working atm - exclude this part :-)*

Hi , does anyone know how I can using ip aliasing with the
/etc/network/interfaces (debian method). I could easily add another startup
script with ifconfigs and routes, but that would be messy and uncalled for
and I'm sure someone must have done it before and got it right. Nomatter
what I've tried neither my pcmcia eth0 device is configured, (although the
module for it loads fine) nor are any of the aliases configured. I've tried
the following lines :

auto lo eth0 eth0:1 eth0:2// Didn't work
auto lo eth0// Didn't work

Also I tried changing the order of execution for the networking script, but
to no avail : i.e. # mv /etc/rc2.d/S40networking /etc/rc2.d/S99networking
and  # mv /etc/rc2.d/S40networking /etc/rc2.d/S04networking


I've attached my /etc/network/interfaces if anyone wants to take a look, and
feel free to ask me to post any more files. They're all pretty small i.e.
10k

PS : Bg info on my system : Running Woody Testing / 2.4.7 kernel / xirc_2pcs
driver for pcmcia NIC. Sony VAIO laptop (don't think that'll be of much use
though :-) )

Thanks
George




Re: *Could someone please post this to linux.debian.user and linux.dev.debian newsgroups*

2001-07-25 Thread DvB

George wrote:

*Could someone please post this to linux.debian.user and linux.dev.debian
newsgroups - my news server is not working atm - exclude this part :-)*







Why don't you try http://www.deja.com? They've got their own news server...



no valid newsgroups again (inews)

2000-10-13 Thread dochawk


I know Ive been through this before, but this didn't come up on my 
install last year (which worked fine).

I can read usenet just fine, but when I try to post, I get

inews: No valid newsgroups in alt.folklore.computers

--which happens to be the group Im reading.  

I'm not running a newserver, but getting news from news.psu.edu, if
this makes a difference.
-- 




Re: Newsgroups

2000-05-12 Thread Graeme Mathieson
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Hi,

Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I want to start subscribing to newsgroups and wondered if anyone could
 recommend a really good news group application, one with a good GUI if
 possible. 

Ooh, news reader war. :)  I use Gnus.  In fact I use Gnus for all my mail and
news.  The environment is consistent, it works nicely (with Mailcrypt)
to provide encryption and clearsigning.  It does highlighting of comments
and smilies.

Does everything I'm looking for.  Mail handling takes a little getting
used to (it treats _everything_ like a newsfroup), but it's useful enough.

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Newsgroups

2000-05-11 Thread Daniel Burrows

I want to start subscribing to newsgroups and wondered if anyone could
recommend a really good news group application, one with a good GUI if
possible. 


Thanks.



Re: Newsgroups

2000-05-11 Thread Steve Zinck
On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 07:06:31PM +, Daniel Burrows wrote:
 
 I want to start subscribing to newsgroups and wondered if anyone could
 recommend a really good news group application, one with a good GUI if
 possible. 

I prefer tin, but if you're looking for a GUI, PAN is a pretty decent 
GTK news client.


-- 
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http://nerd.halifax.ns.ca



Re: Newsgroups

2000-05-11 Thread Christian Surchi
On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 07:06:31PM +, Daniel Burrows wrote:
 
 I want to start subscribing to newsgroups and wondered if anyone could
 recommend a really good news group application, one with a good GUI if
 possible. 

I like slrn!

bye
Christian



Re: Setting Up Newsgroups

1999-01-14 Thread Thomas Adams
On Tue, Jan 12, 1999 at 11:42:50PM -0500, Chris Hoover wrote:
 How do I go about setting up newsgroups on my hamm box?  I installed the
 news servers, but I'm unsure of what to do next.  I just want to pull
 maybe 10 groups down to my local box.

Your article leaves many open questions: Which newsserver did you install, 
what do you mean with I installed the news server_s_? You don't need more 
than one. Can you use UUCP or do you have to use NNTP? With the few groups you 
want to get, wouldn't slrnpull be an option? If you don't like slrn, then 
probably not but then maybe leafnode could be used instead of a full blown 
newsserver?

What you have to do next is basically create the groups locally on your system 
and tell your computer to fetch articles from your ISP's newsserver.


Re: Setting Up Newsgroups

1999-01-14 Thread Jiri Baum
Hello,

  How do I go about setting up newsgroups on my hamm box?  I installed
  the news servers, but I'm unsure of what to do next.  I just want to
  pull maybe 10 groups down to my local box.
...
 The simplest news server is probably leafnode.  I've never used it, so
 can't give you specific instructions, but it is designed for exactly this
 situation.  It provides a news server, and downloads those groups you
 have subscribed to with your newsreader from an upstream server.  You
 don't have to deal with the intricacies of inn or anything like that.

Seconded recommendation of leafnode - but get the slink version (use
--force if necessary). With hamm leafnode and tin, tin would hang when
attempting to access a newsgroup for the first time (afterwards it was OK,
so it was not a major problem, but it's nicer when it works as it should).


HTH

Jiri


Setting Up Newsgroups

1999-01-13 Thread Chris Hoover
How do I go about setting up newsgroups on my hamm box?  I installed the
news servers, but I'm unsure of what to do next.  I just want to pull
maybe 10 groups down to my local box.

Thanks


Re: Setting Up Newsgroups

1999-01-13 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, Jan 12, 1999 at 11:42:50PM -0500, Chris Hoover wrote:

 How do I go about setting up newsgroups on my hamm box?  I installed the
 news servers, but I'm unsure of what to do next.  I just want to pull
 maybe 10 groups down to my local box.

You'll also need a news reader if you are going to use a news server -
something like Gnus (in Emacs), tin or slrn that provides a user interface
allowing you to read and write news articles.  Tastes vary, but for my
money Gnus is the easiest and most featureful.

Which news server have you installed?  With either inn or cnews, you should
investigate one of the news downloaders like suck or newsx.  Neither inn
nor cnews is really designed for pulling news from another sever and it's
all a bit heavy duty.

The simplest news server is probably leafnode.  I've never used it, so
can't give you specific instructions, but it is designed for exactly this
situation.  It provides a news server, and downloads those groups you have
subscribed to with your newsreader from an upstream server.  You don't
have to deal with the intricacies of inn or anything like that.

There are also newsreaders which can do the downloading themselves, giving
you the ability to read news offline.  Gnus and slrn can do this.  I've no
experience with doing this.  The disadvantages are that each user downloads
news seperately and it's a bit harder to arrange for news to be downloaded
automatically when you bring up a PPP link.  It also ties you to using that
reader.

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Re: Newsgroups and this mailing list

1998-12-31 Thread Matus \fantomas\ Uhlar
-  I may be wrong (pls correct me if so) but I believe this mail list
-  _IS_ linked to the newsgroups.  Check out linux.debian.user
- 
- At least in my region (Germany) the linux.* newsgroups are almost
- dead.  I also had problems with other gated mailing lists (like
- comp.risks) so I prefer subscribing to these ml by myself und gating
- into my own LOCAL server for ease of reading.

afaik, linux.* newsgroup hierarchy is DEAD.
the right should be comp.os.linux.*

-- 
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 BIC coord for *.sk; admin of netlab.irc.sk; co-admin of irc.felk.cvut.cz


Re: Newsgroups and this mailing list

1998-12-30 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
ivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I may be wrong (pls correct me if so) but I believe this mail list
 _IS_ linked to the newsgroups.  Check out linux.debian.user

At least in my region (Germany) the linux.* newsgroups are almost
dead.  I also had problems with other gated mailing lists (like
comp.risks) so I prefer subscribing to these ml by myself und gating
into my own LOCAL server for ease of reading.

Torsten

BTW: ML-news gateways have the disadvantage of not knowing exactly if
 your artikel sent to this group is gated back into the ml.

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