Re: No volume change possible
On 07/02/2014 01:29 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 02:22:42PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: On 06/30/2014 02:44 PM, B wrote: On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 14:30:46 -0400 Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote: Problems of this sort would be much lessoned if pavucontrol was a depend. RIc I wouldn't say 'depend' but much more 'recommend'; 'depend' should only be used for _mandatory_ dependencies IMHO. I would tend to agree, except that over 50% of configuration errors reported, regarding audio, is due to the lack of pavucontrol being installed at all and/or the user being aware that it needs to be invoked. Recommends are on by default, so a wishlist bug would be appropriate to get it moved from Suggests to Recommends, although some may consider it cruft, *esp* if it is only needed in rare cases. Depends are for the benefit of the package NOT the user. :) True Chris, for the very average user with only one stereo audio out and one mono mike inpuo in. But once you have a speaker set up and a stereo headphone to chose between for audio out, or a headset mike for ,skype then you NEED pavucontrol ...without a doubt. To be able to switch sources both in and out on the fly, which is what it's for. It's kinda like buying a new Corvette and the dealer is telling you it will do zero to sixty in three seconds, once you install the transmission. Then, to top it off, he bings happy telling you so, since it cut costs to GM. Heheheh, Ric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53b4b44a.2080...@gmail.com
Re: No volume change possible
On 06/30/2014 02:44 PM, B wrote: On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 14:30:46 -0400 Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote: Problems of this sort would be much lessoned if pavucontrol was a depend. RIc I wouldn't say 'depend' but much more 'recommend'; 'depend' should only be used for _mandatory_ dependencies IMHO. I would tend to agree, except that over 50% of configuration errors reported, regarding audio, is due to the lack of pavucontrol being installed at all and/or the user being aware that it needs to be invoked. So, if it were installed from the get-go, and a dialog popped up during install time, asking if the user wants to configure audio NOW or do it later using the pavucontrol application? ...that would be really nice! OTOH, that would just make installing Linux too user friendly. New users should learn VIM first. cackles Ric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53b2fc72.9080...@gmail.com
Re: No volume change possible
On 06/30/2014 04:54 PM, B wrote: On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 22:44:26 +0200 mad m...@sharktooth.de wrote: pavucontrol does not fix the problem. In pavucontrol between 1 and 100% the volume stays the same. It is muted when switched to zero and it is getting louder over 100%. Which knob(s) did you act on? Play between application volume and general to see if it is changing things. Did you check that not any other mixer is running in the background? He mentioned kmix, ergo he's running KDE that has another layer of audio handling with phonon. So, here's a handy guide to KDE: http://userbase.kde.org/Sound_Problems ...who likes to do things THEIR way. :/ Ric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53b2fe5d.5090...@gmail.com
Re: No volume change possible
On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 02:22:42PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: On 06/30/2014 02:44 PM, B wrote: On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 14:30:46 -0400 Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote: Problems of this sort would be much lessoned if pavucontrol was a depend. RIc I wouldn't say 'depend' but much more 'recommend'; 'depend' should only be used for _mandatory_ dependencies IMHO. I would tend to agree, except that over 50% of configuration errors reported, regarding audio, is due to the lack of pavucontrol being installed at all and/or the user being aware that it needs to be invoked. Recommends are on by default, so a wishlist bug would be appropriate to get it moved from Suggests to Recommends, although some may consider it cruft, *esp* if it is only needed in rare cases. Depends are for the benefit of the package NOT the user. :) -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140702052932.GB1092@tal
No volume change possible
Hi, I can no longer change the volume on my desktop running Debian testing. In kmix or alsamixer (card: pulseaudio) I can lower the volume but nothing happens until the volume switches to zero. Then the sound is muted. Above zero the volume is always the same. On the command line with mplayer I could observe the following: mplayer -ao alsa test.mp3 # No volume change, only mute. If I change the volume too fast (pressing 0 or 9 permanently) the playback crashes (but not mplayer). mplayer -ao pulse test.mp3 # Volume change is possible mplayer -ao oss test.mp3 # Volume change is possible Anybody any idea what the problem may be? On my laptop (also Debian testing, very similar setup) volume change is possible. Thanks in advance mad -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53b1a1e2.20...@sharktooth.de
Re: No volume change possible
On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 19:44:02 +0200 mad m...@sharktooth.de wrote: I can no longer change the volume on my desktop running Debian testing. May be your system has switched to pulseaudio, install pavucontrol and test it while audio playing. -- Mel : Does guy's brain unscrambler exists? :'( Blondin : yep Blondin : it is called beer signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: No volume change possible
On 06/30/2014 02:07 PM, B wrote: On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 19:44:02 +0200 mad m...@sharktooth.de wrote: I can no longer change the volume on my desktop running Debian testing. May be your system has switched to pulseaudio, install pavucontrol and test it while audio playing. Problems of this sort would be much lessoned if pavucontrol was a depend. RIc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53b1acd6.3090...@gmail.com
Re: No volume change possible
On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 14:30:46 -0400 Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote: Problems of this sort would be much lessoned if pavucontrol was a depend. RIc I wouldn't say 'depend' but much more 'recommend'; 'depend' should only be used for _mandatory_ dependencies IMHO. -- neonoe what means lp0 on fire ? Naha that your printer is burning neonoe ah ok neonoe indeed neonoe shit… signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: No volume change possible
pavucontrol does not fix the problem. In pavucontrol between 1 and 100% the volume stays the same. It is muted when switched to zero and it is getting louder over 100%. On 30.06.2014 20:07, B wrote: On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 19:44:02 +0200 mad m...@sharktooth.de wrote: I can no longer change the volume on my desktop running Debian testing. May be your system has switched to pulseaudio, install pavucontrol and test it while audio playing. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53b1cc2a.3000...@sharktooth.de
Re: No volume change possible
On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 22:44:26 +0200 mad m...@sharktooth.de wrote: pavucontrol does not fix the problem. In pavucontrol between 1 and 100% the volume stays the same. It is muted when switched to zero and it is getting louder over 100%. Which knob(s) did you act on? Play between application volume and general to see if it is changing things. Did you check that not any other mixer is running in the background? -- Emi: tell me something to push back but nicely iFf: huu iFf: go to hell, please signature.asc Description: PGP signature
