On 17.08.2023 20:48, Luiz Romário Santana Rios wrote:
Hello, all,
(Please cc me when replying, I'm not subscribed to the mailing list)
I have (according do lspci) a NVIDIA Corporation GK208B [GeForce GT
710] (rev a1) graphics card. The correct proprietary driver for this
card seems to be the Nvidia 390 series.
When Bookworm came out, I was running Bullseye with this driver and
never really had any graphical issues that I can remember. Upon
upgrading to Bullseye, I eventually found out this driver was no
longer available and I was stuck with nouveau. I was recommended the
tesla 470 driver during the upgrade, but I never got it to work.
According to Nvidia's official website GT 710 is supported up to 470
version. [1]
I've never tried to install "tesla" flavor of nvidia-driver, so I can't
suggest anything about it.
When I needed a specific version I always build a simple backport [2]
from "testing" repo, so I'd try to do the same for a 470.199.02 version,
which is now available from "oldstable-proposed-updates" repo.
You can also try the official package from Nvidia website, at least to
test if 470 version works and solves your issue with freezing.
The nouveau driver would be fine, since I don't do anything
graphics-intensive like gaming and I get the bonus of being able to
run Wayland, which is cool. Except that I started noticing constant
freezes for no apparent reason. They usually take a few hours to
happen, sometimes I can spend a day or maybe two without freezes, but
they _keep happening_. I'm gonna spare you of the details of the
effort I spent trying to investigate this problem, but what I found
out is:
* It happens in any of the kernels I have installed: 6.1, 6.0, 5.11, 4.9
* It happens in Plasma, and it doesn't matter if I'm running X11 or
Wayland
* It _seems_ not to happen under GNOME Wayland, but I think it
happens under GNOME X11
* It appears to be related with screen sharing, because:
o When I was using Plasma, I had the impression that the
graphics froze way more often when I was sharing my screen
o Screen sharing doesn't work on GNOME Wayland (maybe related to
why it didn't freeze yet)
o The one time where I tried to use GNOME X11, it froze
immediately after I tried to share my screen
* The kernel logs seem to indicate some missing firmware right
before the graphics card freezes (and indeed some firmware is missing)
I had issues very similar to your description. Even made a bug report
[3] about it.
I don't have any instability or "freezing" issues with recent kernel and
driver versions, but I've also disabled hardware acceleration for my
browser as a workaround and haven't actually checked if the issue is gone.
Somehow it was all tied to video hardware acceleration and DE
Compositor, which I kept disabled. I was able to repro the issue quite
reliably, back then.
I've thought this workaround was better than downgrading driver version
to 416 and stick to it forever.
Now I've upgraded system to Bookworm, and use 525.105.17 version,
delaying update to an up-to-date version from stable, and haven't seen
"Xid" errors or "freezes" for many months, Compositor is enabled, games
and movies play without any issues.
Screen sharing is essential for me to work, so this is really not a
great situation to be in. For comparison, my laptop, which was also
updated to Bookworm in the same day I updated this PC, had none of the
problems I'm describing here, since it has an integrated intel
graphics card.
I appreciate that Nvidia cards can be very problematic and that the
one card I own is really old, but I didn't have this problem until
updating and I know this card can work just fine with the right
driver. Unfortunately, right now, nouveau is not adequate for me to
work, but the driver that does work is not officially available. What
should I do?
* Should I try updating to a newer kernel to see if nouveau got fixed?
I haven't checked, but I think nouveau didn't had a commit in years. It
is an abandon-ware for me.
* Should I try installing the missing firmware?
I'd try that, at least to see if it solves the issue.
Keep in mind, non-free firmware was separated to another repo in
Bookworm. [4]
[1] https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/205995/en-us/
[2] https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation
[3] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1016542
[4] https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList
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With kindest regards, Alexander.
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