Re: OT: advice on Notebook, smartbook from alwaysinnovating
Dne, 14. 10. 2010 03:06:59 je Thierry Chatelet napisal(a): Here we have to buy any laptop with win#$$% inside, and then fight to get it remove and get some money back!! Sounds we Europeans are even worse off than Americans themselves? Way to go, Mr. Gates! HP does not want to give you anything back, and many others don't want to pay for shipment, so it make no sense because it's almost as much as they give back.!! If you shop around, you'll find that many HP laptops come preinstalled with FreeDOS. That's how I bought mine. They may even have laptops preinstalled with OpenSuSE (I hear it's their distro of choice, at least for certain laptop models). -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1287037698.861...@compax
Re: OT: advice on Notebook, smartbook from alwaysinnovating
Le Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:40:02 +0200, Thierry Chatelet tchate...@free.fr a écrit : An answer a little aside your question: if import (VAT, delays, warranty and so on) is too of a hassle for you and openness is not not an absolute requirement, you could take a look at the Toshiba AC100 Android ARM smartbook: http://eu.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/generic/b2c-toshiba-ac100/ which is available in France (approximately 280 euros). It should comply with your mobility requirements and you could probably install the linux distro of your choice but I don't know if binary blobs / proprietary softwares are needed though (Nvidia Tegra2 with integrated GPU)... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101014101128.4afc5...@netbook-didier.gaumet.fr
Re: OT: advice on Notebook, smartbook from alwaysinnovating
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Thierry Chatelet tchate...@free.fr wrote: Hi, I am planning to buy a notebook, laptop or tablet for my daughter who is at university. So the main use will be internet research, and writing of her theses (in litterature, so no big.deal as far as sketches, drawings...). The contract from alwaysinnovating, respecting the gpl even on the material just please me. But if any of you has try it, can you give some feed back, at least on the notebook, as I would get the smartbook which is not produced yet. But if their first product was up to what they claim it is, I would like to give them a chance for the next baby. Thank you Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201010132240.02301.tchate...@free.fr I'm not sure about how well these netbooks perform, but any ways, here it's an alternative: http://www.lemote.com/en/products/Notebook/2010/0310/112.html Advantage is that this things are really meant to run on linux, and the loongson 2f soc comes with 2 64-bits mips, and they have both Europe and USA dealers if that's to be considered. Bad thing is that their batteries are not that good, but in terms of processing I think these got in better shape than the alwaysinnovating ones which include a beagleboard... -- Javier. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktiklkbbryndldueoeoshct64bcny0dtkehoym...@mail.gmail.com
OT: advice on Notebook, smartbook from alwaysinnovating
Hi, I am planning to buy a notebook, laptop or tablet for my daughter who is at university. So the main use will be internet research, and writing of her theses (in litterature, so no big.deal as far as sketches, drawings...). The contract from alwaysinnovating, respecting the gpl even on the material just please me. But if any of you has try it, can you give some feed back, at least on the notebook, as I would get the smartbook which is not produced yet. But if their first product was up to what they claim it is, I would like to give them a chance for the next baby. Thank you Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201010132240.02301.tchate...@free.fr
Re: OT: advice on Notebook, smartbook from alwaysinnovating
I don't have one, but it is one of my top choices for a netbook. I remember when they came out. There was a guy on the talk.maemo.org forums that got one, and he said it was a good machine. The earlier version had some construction issues, they kinda felt cheesy, but I assume they worked these bugs out. And the processor was a little anemic, (400MHz ARM, same as in my N810), but they have come out with a new version (SmartBook) has a Cortex A8, which is the same chip as the N900 will do at a minimum, 600MHz, and can be overclocked (the record on the N900 is apparently 1.7GHz). Not sure what distro it runs (Meego?), but the guy that got the TouchBook running Maemo, which is based on Debian. --b On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Thierry Chatelet tchate...@free.fr wrote: Hi, I am planning to buy a notebook, laptop or tablet for my daughter who is at university. So the main use will be internet research, and writing of her theses (in litterature, so no big.deal as far as sketches, drawings...). The contract from alwaysinnovating, respecting the gpl even on the material just please me. But if any of you has try it, can you give some feed back, at least on the notebook, as I would get the smartbook which is not produced yet. But if their first product was up to what they claim it is, I would like to give them a chance for the next baby. Thank you Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201010132240.02301.tchate...@free.fr
Re: OT: advice on Notebook, smartbook from alwaysinnovating
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:40:02 +0200, Thierry Chatelet wrote: I am planning to buy a notebook, laptop or tablet for my daughter who is at university. So the main use will be internet research, and writing of her theses (in litterature, so no big.deal as far as sketches, drawings...). (...) If mobility is not a requirement, I would go for a good and generous screen laptop (15 or 16). For someone who needs writing a lot, it is very convenient. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.10.13.21.45...@gmail.com
Re: OT: advice on Notebook, smartbook from alwaysinnovating
...or possibly a larger monitor and keyboard if mobility is an issue. I was issued a Macbook, and tried humping that monster around for a week. Gave up and it sat at home. Traded it in for a Lenovo thinkpad. Of course, I generally use my N900 for the stuff that I would need a laptop for at work. :) --b On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:40:02 +0200, Thierry Chatelet wrote: I am planning to buy a notebook, laptop or tablet for my daughter who is at university. So the main use will be internet research, and writing of her theses (in litterature, so no big.deal as far as sketches, drawings...). (...) If mobility is not a requirement, I would go for a good and generous screen laptop (15 or 16). For someone who needs writing a lot, it is very convenient. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.10.13.21.45...@gmail.com
Re: OT: advice on Notebook, smartbook from alwaysinnovating
On 10/13/2010 04:45 PM, Camaleón wrote: [snip] If mobility is not a requirement, I would go for a good and generous screen laptop (15 or 16). For someone who needs writing a lot, it is very convenient. And remember that wide screens chop off a lot of the vertical height that writers need, so look for a regular laptop. -- Seek truth from facts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cb63697.7030...@cox.net
Re: OT: advice on Notebook, smartbook from alwaysinnovating
Original Message From: stor...@gmail.com To: noela...@gmail.com Subject: Re: OT: advice on Notebook, smartbook from alwaysinnovating Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:26:38 -0400 ...or possibly a larger monitor and keyboard if mobility is an issue. I was issued a Macbook, and tried humping that monster around for a week. Gave up and it sat at home. Traded it in for a Lenovo thinkpad. Of course, I generally use my N900 for the stuff that I would need a laptop for at work. :) --b On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:40:02 +0200, Thierry Chatelet wrote: I am planning to buy a notebook, laptop or tablet for my daughter who is at university. So the main use will be internet research, and writing of her theses (in litterature, so no big.deal as far as sketches, drawings...). (...) If mobility is not a requirement, I would go for a good and generous screen laptop (15 or 16). For someone who needs writing a lot, it is very convenient. Greetings, -- Camaleón I would check with her department at the University. Most (including the one I teach at) have a recommended list of computer capabilities and some also recommended vendors. You must be careful, unfortunately, because some programs use specific software packages that only run under one O/S (even shudder win#$%). If necessary schedule an appointment with the Department Chair since you would hate your daughter to be disappointed. Larry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.10.13.21.45...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/380-220101041403721...@netptc.net
Re: OT: advice on Notebook, smartbook from alwaysinnovating
I would check with her department at the University. Most (including the one I teach at) have a recommended list of computer capabilities and some also recommended vendors. You must be careful, unfortunately, because some programs use specific software packages that only run under one O/S (even shudder win#$%). If necessary schedule an appointment with the Department Chair since you would hate your daughter to be disappointed. Larry That no problem, she had up to 2 days ago a beautiful laptop running squeeze to her satisfaction and it did fit her needs.Unfortunately it died! RIP. She has to carry it quiet a lot has she has a bad time table, and she works at the library during her free time.So weight matters. I am considering the small screen as a problem, that can be solved when she is at home as I can give her a 19 in 4:3 ratio. My worries is in the reliability of that alwaysinnovating, as we are in Europe, and I would hate to have to ship it back to the states. The good point is that it is made to work whit Linux. Here we have to buy any laptop with win#$$% inside, and then fight to get it remove and get some money back!! Usually , you have to ship it back to the maintenance center and it takes around 2 weeks++ before you get it back, and quiet often, with a lost of the warranty. Acer, Asus and Samsung are giving you money back and they pay for the shipment back and forth to the maintenance center. HP does not want to give you anything back, and many others don't want to pay for shipment, so it make no sense because it's almost as much as they give back.!! That's why I have a strong desire to buy something made for our lovely OS. Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201010140306.59701.tchate...@free.fr