Re: OT: advice on Notebook, smartbook from alwaysinnovating

2010-10-14 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 14. 10. 2010 03:06:59 je Thierry Chatelet napisal(a):

Here we have to buy any
laptop with win#$$% inside, and then fight to get it remove and get  
some money

back!!


Sounds we Europeans are even worse off than Americans themselves? Way  
to go, Mr. Gates!



HP does not want to
give you anything back, and many others don't want to pay for  
shipment, so it

make no sense because it's almost as much as they give back.!!


If you shop around, you'll find that many HP laptops come preinstalled  
with FreeDOS. That's how I bought mine. They may even have laptops  
preinstalled with OpenSuSE (I hear it's their distro of choice, at  
least for certain laptop models).



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Re: OT: advice on Notebook, smartbook from alwaysinnovating

2010-10-14 Thread didier gaumet
Le Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:40:02 +0200,
Thierry Chatelet tchate...@free.fr a écrit :

An answer a little aside your question: if import (VAT, delays,
warranty and so on) is too of a hassle for you and openness is not
not an absolute requirement, you could take a look at the Toshiba AC100
Android ARM smartbook:
 http://eu.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/generic/b2c-toshiba-ac100/
which is available in France (approximately 280 euros).
It should comply with your mobility requirements and you could probably
install the linux distro of your choice but I don't know if binary
blobs / proprietary softwares are needed though (Nvidia Tegra2
with integrated GPU)... 


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Re: OT: advice on Notebook, smartbook from alwaysinnovating

2010-10-14 Thread Javier Vasquez
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Thierry Chatelet tchate...@free.fr wrote:
 Hi,
 I am planning to buy a notebook, laptop or tablet for my daughter who is at
 university. So the main use will be internet research, and writing of her
 theses (in litterature, so no big.deal as far as sketches, drawings...). The
 contract from alwaysinnovating, respecting the gpl even on the material just
 please me. But if any of you has try it, can you give some feed back, at least
 on the notebook, as I would get the smartbook which is not produced yet. But
 if their first product was up to what they claim it is, I would like to give
 them a chance for the next baby. Thank you
 Thierry


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I'm not sure about how well these netbooks perform, but any ways, here
it's an alternative:

http://www.lemote.com/en/products/Notebook/2010/0310/112.html

Advantage is that this things are really meant to run on linux, and
the loongson 2f soc comes with 2 64-bits mips, and they have both
Europe and USA dealers if that's to be considered.

Bad thing is that their batteries are not that good, but in terms of
processing I think these got in better shape than the alwaysinnovating
ones which include a beagleboard...

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OT: advice on Notebook, smartbook from alwaysinnovating

2010-10-13 Thread Thierry Chatelet
Hi,
I am planning to buy a notebook, laptop or tablet for my daughter who is at 
university. So the main use will be internet research, and writing of her 
theses (in litterature, so no big.deal as far as sketches, drawings...). The 
contract from alwaysinnovating, respecting the gpl even on the material just 
please me. But if any of you has try it, can you give some feed back, at least 
on the notebook, as I would get the smartbook which is not produced yet. But 
if their first product was up to what they claim it is, I would like to give 
them a chance for the next baby. Thank you
Thierry


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Re: OT: advice on Notebook, smartbook from alwaysinnovating

2010-10-13 Thread B. Alexander
I don't have one, but it is one of my top choices for a netbook. I remember
when they came out. There was a guy on the talk.maemo.org forums that got
one, and he said it was a good machine.

The earlier version had some construction issues, they kinda felt cheesy,
but I assume they worked these bugs out. And the processor was a little
anemic, (400MHz ARM, same as in my N810), but they have come out with a new
version (SmartBook) has a Cortex A8, which is the same chip as the N900 will
do at a minimum, 600MHz, and can be overclocked (the record on the N900 is
apparently 1.7GHz).

Not sure what distro it runs (Meego?), but the guy that got the TouchBook
running Maemo, which is based on Debian.

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On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Thierry Chatelet tchate...@free.fr wrote:

 Hi,
 I am planning to buy a notebook, laptop or tablet for my daughter who is at
 university. So the main use will be internet research, and writing of her
 theses (in litterature, so no big.deal as far as sketches, drawings...).
 The
 contract from alwaysinnovating, respecting the gpl even on the material
 just
 please me. But if any of you has try it, can you give some feed back, at
 least
 on the notebook, as I would get the smartbook which is not produced yet.
 But
 if their first product was up to what they claim it is, I would like to
 give
 them a chance for the next baby. Thank you
 Thierry


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Re: OT: advice on Notebook, smartbook from alwaysinnovating

2010-10-13 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:40:02 +0200, Thierry Chatelet wrote:

 I am planning to buy a notebook, laptop or tablet for my daughter who is
 at university. So the main use will be internet research, and writing of
 her theses (in litterature, so no big.deal as far as sketches,
 drawings...). 

(...)

If mobility is not a requirement, I would go for a good and generous 
screen laptop (15 or 16). For someone who needs writing a lot, it is 
very convenient.

Greetings,

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Re: OT: advice on Notebook, smartbook from alwaysinnovating

2010-10-13 Thread B. Alexander
...or possibly a larger monitor and keyboard if mobility is an issue.

I was issued a Macbook, and tried humping that monster around for a week.
Gave up and it sat at home. Traded it in for a Lenovo thinkpad. Of course, I
generally use my N900 for the stuff that I would need a laptop for at work.
:)

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On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:40:02 +0200, Thierry Chatelet wrote:

  I am planning to buy a notebook, laptop or tablet for my daughter who is
  at university. So the main use will be internet research, and writing of
  her theses (in litterature, so no big.deal as far as sketches,
  drawings...).

 (...)

 If mobility is not a requirement, I would go for a good and generous
 screen laptop (15 or 16). For someone who needs writing a lot, it is
 very convenient.

 Greetings,

 --
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Re: OT: advice on Notebook, smartbook from alwaysinnovating

2010-10-13 Thread Ron Johnson

On 10/13/2010 04:45 PM, Camaleón wrote:
[snip]


If mobility is not a requirement, I would go for a good and generous
screen laptop (15 or 16). For someone who needs writing a lot, it is
very convenient.


And remember that wide screens chop off a lot of the vertical height 
that writers need, so look for a regular laptop.


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Re: OT: advice on Notebook, smartbook from alwaysinnovating

2010-10-13 Thread owens



 Original Message 
From: stor...@gmail.com
To: noela...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: OT: advice on Notebook, smartbook from alwaysinnovating
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:26:38 -0400

...or possibly a larger monitor and keyboard if mobility is an
issue.

I was issued a Macbook, and tried humping that monster around for a
week.
Gave up and it sat at home. Traded it in for a Lenovo thinkpad. Of
course, I
generally use my N900 for the stuff that I would need a laptop for
at work.
:)

--b

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:40:02 +0200, Thierry Chatelet wrote:

  I am planning to buy a notebook, laptop or tablet for my
daughter who is
  at university. So the main use will be internet research, and
writing of
  her theses (in litterature, so no big.deal as far as sketches,
  drawings...).

 (...)

 If mobility is not a requirement, I would go for a good and
generous
 screen laptop (15 or 16). For someone who needs writing a lot,
it is
 very convenient.

 Greetings,

 --
 Camaleón


I would check with her department at the University.  Most (including
the one I teach at) have a recommended list of computer capabilities
and some also recommended vendors.  You must be careful,
unfortunately, because some programs use specific software packages
that only run under one O/S (even shudder win#$%).  If necessary
schedule an appointment with the Department Chair since you would
hate your daughter to be disappointed.
Larry
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Re: OT: advice on Notebook, smartbook from alwaysinnovating

2010-10-13 Thread Thierry Chatelet
 I would check with her department at the University.  Most (including
 the one I teach at) have a recommended list of computer capabilities
 and some also recommended vendors.  You must be careful,
 unfortunately, because some programs use specific software packages
 that only run under one O/S (even shudder win#$%).  If necessary
 schedule an appointment with the Department Chair since you would
 hate your daughter to be disappointed.
 Larry

That no problem, she had up to 2 days ago a beautiful laptop running squeeze 
to her satisfaction and it did fit her needs.Unfortunately it died! RIP.
She has to carry it quiet a lot has she has a bad time table, and she works at 
the library during her free time.So weight matters.
I am considering the small screen as a problem, that can be solved when she is 
at home as I can give her a 19 in 4:3 ratio.
My worries is in the reliability of that alwaysinnovating, as we are in 
Europe, and I would hate to have to ship it back to the states.
The good point is that it is made to work whit Linux. Here we have to buy any 
laptop with win#$$% inside, and then fight to get it remove and get some money 
back!! Usually , you have to ship it back to the maintenance center and it 
takes around 2 weeks++ before you get it back, and quiet often, with a lost of 
the warranty. Acer, Asus and Samsung are giving you money back and they pay 
for the shipment back and forth to the maintenance center. HP does not want to 
give you anything back, and many others don't want to pay for shipment, so it 
make no sense because it's almost as much as they give back.!!
That's why I have a strong desire to buy something made for our lovely OS.
Thierry


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