Re: OT Firewire networking (was: Ethernet port dead)

2010-10-18 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 18 oct 10, 14:06:08, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Camaleón  writes:
> 
> > On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 15:56:08 +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> >
> >> Camaleón writes:
> >
> >>> Please, type "lspci" and put here the output, just to be sure.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I had already posted it:
> >> 
> >> # lspci | grep -i ethernet
> >> eth1394: eth0: IEEE-1394 IPv4 over 1394 Ethernet (fw-host0)
> >
> > Yep, but do not "grep" it, put the full output (lspci).
> 
> Here it is the output of `lspci':
> 
> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 760/M760 Host (rev 03)
> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SG86C202
> 00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS963 [MuTIOL Media IO] 
> (rev 25)
> 00:02.1 SMBus: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS961/2 SMBus Controller
> 00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE]
> 00:02.6 Modem: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 
> a0)
> 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 
> Sound Controller (rev a0)
> 00:03.0 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 Controller 
> (rev 0f)
> 00:03.1 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 Controller 
> (rev 0f)
> 00:03.3 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 2.0 Controller
> 00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast 
> Ethernet (rev 91)

Here's your network card. Very interesting that it didn't show up in the 
grep... are you aware of any differences (for example booting with a 
different kernel)?

Could you please let us see the full output of 'dmesg'. If you are 
worried about the size you can use paste.debian.net

Regards,
Andrei
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Re: OT Firewire networking (was: Ethernet port dead)

2010-10-18 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Camaleón  writes:

> On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 15:56:08 +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>
>> Camaleón writes:
>
>>> Please, type "lspci" and put here the output, just to be sure.
>> 
>> 
>> I had already posted it:
>> 
>> # lspci | grep -i ethernet
>> eth1394: eth0: IEEE-1394 IPv4 over 1394 Ethernet (fw-host0)
>
> Yep, but do not "grep" it, put the full output (lspci).



Here it is the output of `lspci':


00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 760/M760 Host (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SG86C202
00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS963 [MuTIOL Media IO] 
(rev 25)
00:02.1 SMBus: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS961/2 SMBus Controller
00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE]
00:02.6 Modem: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Modem Controller (rev a0)
00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 
Sound Controller (rev a0)
00:03.0 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 Controller 
(rev 0f)
00:03.1 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 Controller 
(rev 0f)
00:03.3 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 2.0 Controller
00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast 
Ethernet (rev 91)
00:06.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB22/A IEEE-1394a-2000 
Controller (PHY/Link)
00:09.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711M1/MC1 4-in-1 MemoryCardBus 
Controller (rev 20)
00:09.1 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711M1/MC1 4-in-1 MemoryCardBus 
Controller (rev 20)
00:09.2 System peripheral: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711Mx 4-in-1 MemoryCardBus 
Accelerator
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address 
Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM 
Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
Miscellaneous Control
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 
661/741/760/761 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter


Thanks
Rodolfo


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Re: OT Firewire networking (was: Ethernet port dead)

2010-10-17 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 15:56:08 +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> Camaleón writes:

>> Please, type "lspci" and put here the output, just to be sure.
> 
> 
> I had already posted it:
> 
> # lspci | grep -i ethernet
> eth1394: eth0: IEEE-1394 IPv4 over 1394 Ethernet (fw-host0)

Yep, but do not "grep" it, put the full output (lspci).

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Re: OT Firewire networking (was: Ethernet port dead)

2010-10-17 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Camaleón  writes:

> On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 13:47:22 +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>
>> , so eth0 has always been a firewire device.  But the device I'm using
>> as an ethernet port is eth1, which now is not detected by the command
>> ifconfig, nor dmesg, nor lspci.
>
> Please, type "lspci" and put here the output, just to be sure.


I had already posted it:

# lspci | grep -i ethernet
eth1394: eth0: IEEE-1394 IPv4 over 1394 Ethernet (fw-host0)


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Re: OT Firewire networking (was: Ethernet port dead)

2010-10-17 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 13:47:22 +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> , so eth0 has always been a firewire device.  But the device I'm using
> as an ethernet port is eth1, which now is not detected by the command
> ifconfig, nor dmesg, nor lspci.

Please, type "lspci" and put here the output, just to be sure.

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Re: OT Firewire networking (was: Ethernet port dead)

2010-10-17 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Camaleón  writes:

>>> But... what kind of device is that? Are you using an adapter (firewire
>>> to ethernet)? :-?

> It's like Rodolfo's ethernet device got messed in some way and the system 
> now detects his ethernet connection as Firewire.


Well, the file /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules is the following:


# Firewire device 00030d53255c8616 (ohci1394)
SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTRS{address}=="00:03:0d:53:25:5c:86:16", 
NAME="eth0"

# PCI device 0x1039:0x0900 (sis900)
SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTRS{address}=="00:03:0d:33:02:17", NAME="eth1


, so eth0 has always been a firewire device.  But the device I'm using as an
ethernet port is eth1, which now is not detected by the command ifconfig, nor
dmesg, nor lspci.

Rodolfo


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Re: OT Firewire networking (was: Ethernet port dead)

2010-10-17 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 12:25:40 -0600, Morgan Gangwere wrote:

> On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 16:15:12 + (UTC) Camaleón <> wrote:
> 
>> But... what kind of device is that? Are you using an adapter (firewire
>> to ethernet)? :-?
> 
> the 1394 standard says that a computer which supports 1394 must also
> support "1394 networking". Short end of it, if you need to move some
> data between two 1394 capable computers, you use that. They act like
> normal, everyday, nondescript ether ports in software, no less.

I don't have it :-)

Look, I have 2 firewire controllers:

s...@stt008:~$ lspci | grep 1394
06:07.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB82AA2 IEEE-1394b Link Layer 
Controller (rev 01)
11:03.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB22/A IEEE-1394a-2000 
Controller (PHY/Link)

But not their ethernet counterpart (just the "real" devices):

s...@stt008:~$ dmesg | grep -i eth
[6.296132] Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
[8.835653] Driver 'sr' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
[8.939032] eth0: (PCI Express:2.5GB/s:Width x1) 00:30:48:d9:08:27
[8.971270] eth0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection
[8.989936] eth0: MAC: 7, PHY: 6, PBA No: ff-0ff
[   12.105820] r8169 Gigabit Ethernet driver 2.2LK-NAPI loaded
[   12.263452] eth1: RTL8169sb/8110sb at 0xc20002894000, 00:1d:0f:be:b6:ad, 
XID 1000 IRQ 20
[   40.041511] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[   40.928617] eth0: Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: RX/TX
[   40.952349] eth0: 10/100 speed: disabling TSO
[   40.974738] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
[   47.063355] r8169: eth1: link down
[   47.086842] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready
[   53.459758] eth0: no IPv6 routers present

It's like Rodolfo's ethernet device got messed in some way and the system 
now detects his ethernet connection as Firewire.

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Re: OT Firewire networking (was: Ethernet port dead)

2010-10-16 Thread Greg Madden


On Saturday 16 October 2010 10:57:30 Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Morgan Gangwere <0.fracta...@gmail.com> writes:
> > "dmesg | grep eth" gives the folloing output:
> >
> > eth1394: eth0: IEEE-1394 IPv4 over 1394 Ethernet (fw-host0)
> >
> > On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 16:15:12 + (UTC) Camaleón <> wrote:
> >> But... what kind of device is that? Are you using an adapter
> >> (firewire to ethernet)? :-?
> >
> > the 1394 standard says that a computer which supports 1394 must also
> > support "1394 networking". Short end of it, if you need to move some
> > data between two 1394 capable computers, you use that. They act like
> > normal, everyday, nondescript ether ports in software, no less.
>
> But eth0 is not the device I'm using: the device I'm using as an ethernet
> port is eth1, but it doesn't appear in dmesg nor in lspci output: this is
> /etc/network/interfaces:
>
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
>
> auto eth1
> allow-hotplug eth1
> iface eth1 inet static
>   address 192.168.0.1
>   netmask 255.255.255.0
>
>
> Rodolfo

If lspci does't find your ethernet controller it probably died, that happens. 
AFAIK lspci finds functioning  hardware on the pci bus whether or not modules 
for 
devices are installed.

On a laptop, options are usb>ethernet  or a pcmcia card if available.

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Re: OT Firewire networking (was: Ethernet port dead)

2010-10-16 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Morgan Gangwere <0.fracta...@gmail.com> writes:

> "dmesg | grep eth" gives the folloing output:
> 
> eth1394: eth0: IEEE-1394 IPv4 over 1394 Ethernet (fw-host0)

> On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 16:15:12 + (UTC) Camaleón <> wrote:
>
>> But... what kind of device is that? Are you using an adapter
>> (firewire to ethernet)? :-?
>
> the 1394 standard says that a computer which supports 1394 must also
> support "1394 networking". Short end of it, if you need to move some
> data between two 1394 capable computers, you use that. They act like
> normal, everyday, nondescript ether ports in software, no less.


But eth0 is not the device I'm using: the device I'm using as an ethernet port
is eth1, but it doesn't appear in dmesg nor in lspci output: this is
/etc/network/interfaces:

auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

auto eth1
allow-hotplug eth1
iface eth1 inet static
address 192.168.0.1
netmask 255.255.255.0


Rodolfo


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OT Firewire networking (was: Ethernet port dead)

2010-10-16 Thread Morgan Gangwere
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 16:15:12 + (UTC) Camaleón <> wrote:

> But... what kind of device is that? Are you using an adapter
> (firewire to ethernet)? :-?

the 1394 standard says that a computer which supports 1394 must also
support "1394 networking". Short end of it, if you need to move some
data between two 1394 capable computers, you use that. They act like
normal, everyday, nondescript ether ports in software, no less.

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