Re: Offline news access (was: smail config for an ISP with PPP+SMTP+POP3 - How to do?)

[Jens B. Jorgensen]

Daniel Gross wrote:
> 
> Hi all!
> 
> Thanks to the ones, who helped me with my "smail configuration problem".
> (Martin Bialasinski, David Stern and Bob Nielsen)
> 
> But, NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT! Hey it's not so different at all.
> Now that my eMail works fine, I also want to access to USENET News. Until now,
> I could read it online (using tin), but the german Telekom (our phone company)
> has horrible fares, so I want to download my (a little more than a) handfull
> newsgroups, and read it offline. Another thing is, that the "From:" field is
> not filled with the right address. It allways contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> which is
> not very usefull (even when it prevents you from spam mails).
> 
> Can anyone help me again? What should I do? Configuring my own (local) news
> server? Using an other newsreader?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Daniel Gross

You can also use "pnf" which is like suck. To quote the README:

> PNF is Personal News Fetcher.  It's intended use is similar to that of suck,
> that is, to get articles to feed a small news spool.
> 
> PNF came into existence during the late summer of 1996 to cope with
> the frequent news problems my ISP was having, the most challenging to
> suck being an intermittently  broken history database.  Because of
> suck's method of avoiding re-downloading cross-posts,  it downloads
> with HEAD/BODY/ARTICLE  NNTP commands.  Since Message-ID
> based commands depend on a good history database, an alternative was
> necessary.  The well-known perl 'seen' hash array idiom was employed
> to get an as-you-go duplicate checker, and when combined with Rodger
> Anderson's NNTPClient module, the immediate problem was handled in
> surprisingly short order.
  ...
> PNF now does more or less what suck does, plus some other things that may
> give it reason to exist beyond its current home.  It can send articles
> directly to an NNTP server through IHAVE, avoiding intermediate storing
> and batching.  It can pipe an rnews batch to a program, say, pnews_expand
> from Jim Buchanan's pnews package, again avoiding storing.  Because of
> its newsreader-like downloading approach, it accomodates the use by
> ISPs of reader-only machines with nnrpds with their history shorted out
> (Who could that have been?).  Finally, and most telling I think, it's written
> in Perl! :-)  ( Egil Kvaleberg's NewsX does IHAVE and rnews to a pipe, and
> other nifty things, among them many features targeted for bigger setups
> than PNF is meant for.  You can run a multiuser news spool with NewsX.
> You probably couldn't with PNF.)

The only drawback is that pnf isn't a debian package. I had no trouble getting
it to work. Check comp.os.linux.announce archive for more details.

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Re: Offline news access (was: smail config for an ISP with PPP+SMTP+POP3 - How to do?)

[Carl Fink]

> . . . I want to download my (a little more than a) handfull 
> newsgroups, and read it offline.

There are (of course) several ways to do this.  I use suck, which
downloads news and stores it on a local news spool.  This is probably
more work than you want to bother with.

I suggest you look at slrn, which comes with "slrnpull", a program
that downloads articles locally but does *not* require you to set up
innd on your computer.

There are other choices (leafnode, slirp) out there as well.
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Offline news access (was: smail config for an ISP with PPP+SMTP+POP3 - How to do?)

[Daniel Gross]

Hi all!

Thanks to the ones, who helped me with my "smail configuration problem".
(Martin Bialasinski, David Stern and Bob Nielsen)

But, NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT! Hey it's not so different at all.
Now that my eMail works fine, I also want to access to USENET News. Until now,
I could read it online (using tin), but the german Telekom (our phone company) 
has horrible fares, so I want to download my (a little more than a) handfull 
newsgroups, and read it offline. Another thing is, that the "From:" field is 
not filled with the right address. It allways contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] which 
is 
not very usefull (even when it prevents you from spam mails).

Can anyone help me again? What should I do? Configuring my own (local) news
server? Using an other newsreader?

Thanks in advance!

Daniel Gross


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