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[Debian Sid] Upgrade of ppp package breaks connection
Running Debian Sid quite long and never had such "unstable" issue. After upgrading package ppp from 2.4.7-1+4 to 2.4.7-2+1 cannot start ppp-oe connection, requests to my ISP are failing with: MS-CHAP authentication failed: Authentication failure Nothing was changed in config/connection settings. After I removed new package and installed previous version (with several dependencies) - ppp is back to normal. Did anyone face the same issue? Regards.
Re: networking fails with temporary systemd (was auto starting of ppp has stopped working)
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 10:10:02 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 14.08.2014 16:02, schrieb Rusi Mody: > > On Thursday, August 14, 2014 3:40:03 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Biebl wrote: > >> Am 14.08.2014 um 05:32 schrieb Rusi Mody: > >>> Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 pppd[594]: Couldn't open the /dev/ppp device: No > >>> such file or directory > >> Since you don't have the /dev/ppp device, I assume you are not using > >> udev 208-7? > >> Could you please post the version of udev (and systemd) you are using? > > Thanks Michael > > Just ran an aptitude update. > > After that: > > udev is at 208-6 which is the latest I see > If you are using sysvinit as PID 1, upgrade udev to 208-7 (currently > available from unstable) > > systemd is at 204-8 upgradable to 208-6 > If you are using systemd as PID 1, you should avoid mixing udev 208 with > systemd 204 and always upgrade both [1]. > I'd suggest you install systemd-sysv (which will uninstall > sysvinit-core) which will switch your default init to systemd. > You will still have a fallback /lib/sysvini/init as long as the sysvinit > package is installed and which you can use to boot the system in case > the boot fails with systemd. > [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=75#35 Done finally! sysvinit-core removed which pulled in systemd-sysv and (to the best of my knowledge!) my system is still running! So Thanks again! [I would still like to very most humbly submit that sysvinit-core is an odd name for something that is not core! At the least the description lines could have something to that effect...] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/03c6e184-4da2-4d51-b64f-91c95b6f7...@googlegroups.com
Re: networking fails with temporary systemd (was auto starting of ppp has stopped working)
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 05:38:13AM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote: > > More specifically my concerns are: > > 1. Which apt package 'owns' which file? > > Use 'dpkg -S' e.g.: And if you need to do this often, I recommend the "dlocate" package. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140819110306.gb3...@khazad-dum.debian.net
Re: networking fails with temporary systemd (was auto starting of ppp has stopped working)
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 05:38:13AM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote: > More specifically my concerns are: > 1. Which apt package 'owns' which file? Use 'dpkg -S' e.g.: root@tal:~# dpkg -S /bin/systemd systemd: /bin/systemd root@tal:~# dpkg -S /lib/systemd/systemd systemd: /lib/systemd/systemd -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140819031813.GA28646@tal
Re: networking fails with temporary systemd (was auto starting of ppp has stopped working)
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 10:10:02 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 14.08.2014 16:02, schrieb Rusi Mody: > > On Thursday, August 14, 2014 3:40:03 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Biebl wrote: > >> Am 14.08.2014 um 05:32 schrieb Rusi Mody: > >>> Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 pppd[594]: Couldn't open the /dev/ppp device: No > >>> such file or directory > >> Since you don't have the /dev/ppp device, I assume you are not using > >> udev 208-7? > >> Could you please post the version of udev (and systemd) you are using? > > Thanks Michael > > Just ran an aptitude update. > > After that: > > udev is at 208-6 which is the latest I see > If you are using sysvinit as PID 1, upgrade udev to 208-7 (currently > available from unstable) > > systemd is at 204-8 upgradable to 208-6 > If you are using systemd as PID 1, you should avoid mixing udev 208 with > systemd 204 and always upgrade both [1]. > I'd suggest you install systemd-sysv (which will uninstall > sysvinit-core) which will switch your default init to systemd. > You will still have a fallback /lib/sysvini/init as long as the sysvinit > package is installed and which you can use to boot the system in case > the boot fails with systemd. > [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=75#35 Just trying to complete this (both in deed and in understanding) And I find that /bin/systemd is a link to /lib/systemd/systemd. This removes some of my apprehensions. [I could have sworn that I saw a normal file of same size in both places and was confused. I guess I saw wrong.] And now (IIUC) replacing sysvinit-core by systemd-sysv will make systemd the default (right now Ive to explicitly give the init=/bin/systemd at grub). However both will continue to exist and in case of any issue it could be manually chosen. Is that right?? More specifically my concerns are: 1. Which apt package 'owns' which file? 2. Are any critical packages being obsoleted? I really wonder about the name 'sysvinit-core'... Hardly seems 'core' to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/6cc11efb-03b8-462d-b1f6-3bd7f1b57...@googlegroups.com
Re: auto starting of ppp has stopped working
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 01.08.2014 10:45, schrieb Tom H: > >> Either "/etc/modprobe.d/.conf" or in "/etc/modules" if the >> former isn't early enough. > > You are mixing two things up here: > > /etc/modprobe.conf and /etc/modprobe.d/*.conf are for specifying module > parameters. > > If you want to load modules during boot, you have add it to > /etc/modules or /etc/modules-load.d/*.conf. > As you already pointed out /etc/modules-load.d/modules.conf being a > symlink to /etc/modules. This is out of convenience to keep the old > filename working. I guess that I expressed myself badly. AIUI, the symlink from "/etc/modules-load.d/modules.conf" to "/etc/modules" is a good transition mechanism for loading a module early when booting via systemd but, unlike sysvinit, systemd cannot load module options from that file/directory so you have to use "/etc/modprobe.d/" to load options (over and above "/etc/modules"). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=Sxo-g3yhwGc+pECgEBNWT0+cEeEKG4PJevDEtwVipt=t...@mail.gmail.com
Re: auto starting of ppp has stopped working
On Sunday, August 17, 2014 4:50:01 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 01.08.2014 10:45, schrieb Tom H: > > Either "/etc/modprobe.d/.conf" or in "/etc/modules" if the > > former isn't early enough. > You are mixing two things up here: > /etc/modprobe.conf and /etc/modprobe.d/*.conf are for specifying module > parameters. > If you want to load modules during boot, you have add it to > /etc/modules or /etc/modules-load.d/*.conf. > As you already pointed out /etc/modules-load.d/modules.conf being a > symlink to /etc/modules. This is out of convenience to keep the old > filename working. > See man modules-load.d(5) Thanks Michael and others who have helped. Currently I am not on that debian box but an ubuntu laptop and in a bit of rush so not able to give exact/precise answers... ...other than to say that that problem has been solved more or less I'll be getting back to this in a day or two to see through a fully satisfactory solution -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/94eb3a30-85d3-47d1-9f29-776ce2362...@googlegroups.com
Re: auto starting of ppp has stopped working
Am 01.08.2014 10:45, schrieb Tom H: > Either "/etc/modprobe.d/.conf" or in "/etc/modules" if the > former isn't early enough. You are mixing two things up here: /etc/modprobe.conf and /etc/modprobe.d/*.conf are for specifying module parameters. If you want to load modules during boot, you have add it to /etc/modules or /etc/modules-load.d/*.conf. As you already pointed out /etc/modules-load.d/modules.conf being a symlink to /etc/modules. This is out of convenience to keep the old filename working. See man modules-load.d(5) -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: networking fails with temporary systemd (was auto starting of ppp has stopped working)
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Rusi Mody wrote:
> On Thursday, August 14, 2014 9:10:02 PM UTC+5:30, Tom H wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Rusi Mody wrote:
>>>
>>> To add to my earlier report:
>>> I managed to remove graphviz and its associated libraries.
>>> So that now aptitude dist-upgrade gives me only 1 'issue' :
>>> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>>> systemd-sysv : Conflicts: sysvinit-core but 2.88dsf-53.3 is to be installed.
>>> The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
>>> Remove the following packages:
>>> 1) sysvinit-core
>>
>> You can either accept to remove sysvinit-core and run with systemd
>> only or install systemd-shim and you won't be prompted to install
>> systemd-sysv - and you'll be able to boot with sysvinit by default or
>> systemd if you add "init=/lib/systemd/systemd" to the kernel cmdline.
>> (the archives have this repeated a number of times!)
> systemd-shim is currently installed
OK, although it doesn't make sense. systemd-sysv shouldn't be pulled in.
This is on an "unstable" system:
# dpkg-query -W -f='${Package}\n${Version}\n${Status}\n\n'
{init,systemd,systemd-shim,systemd-sysv,sysvinit,sysvinit-core,udev}
init
1.20
install ok installed
systemd
208-7
install ok installed
systemd-shim
6-5
install ok installed
systemd-sysv
unknown ok not-installed
sysvinit
2.88dsf-55.2
install ok installed
sysvinit-core
2.88dsf-53.3
install ok installed
udev
208-7
install ok installed
# aptitude search -F%p '?depends(systemd-sysv)'
gpsd
init
libpam-systemd
sysvinit
# aptitude search -F%p '?depends(systemd-shim)'
libpam-systemd
# aptitude search -F%p '?depends(sysvinit-core)'
init
sysvinit
# apt-cache show gpsd | grep Depends
Depends: netbase | systemd-sysv, ...
# dpkg -L netbase
/.
/etc
/etc/rpc
/etc/protocols
/etc/services
/etc/network
/usr
/usr/share
/usr/share/doc
/usr/share/doc/netbase
/usr/share/doc/netbase/copyright
/usr/share/doc/netbase/changelog.gz
# apt-cache show netbase | grep Priority
Priority: important
Given the "Priority" of netbase, neither gpsd nor the other three
should be pulling in systemd-sysv unless you don't have sysvinit-core
or systemd-shim installed - although the "netbase | systemd-sysv" is
weird.
> Running with init=/bin/systemd makes networking stop working
IIRC, it's a question of moving the module options from "/etc/modules"
to "/etc/modprobe.d/.conf" until the systemd maintainers
figure out how to do this on transition to systemd.
> And /bin/systemd is softlinked to /lib/systemd/systemd so I guess that
> is a non-difference
"/bin/systemd" is a Debianism but as you say it doesn't make a difference.
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Re: networking fails with temporary systemd (was auto starting of ppp has stopped working)
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 10:10:02 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 14.08.2014 16:02, schrieb Rusi Mody: > > On Thursday, August 14, 2014 3:40:03 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Biebl wrote: > >> Am 14.08.2014 um 05:32 schrieb Rusi Mody: > >>> Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 pppd[594]: Couldn't open the /dev/ppp device: No > >>> such file or directory > >> Since you don't have the /dev/ppp device, I assume you are not using > >> udev 208-7? > >> Could you please post the version of udev (and systemd) you are using? > > Thanks Michael > > Just ran an aptitude update. > > After that: > > udev is at 208-6 which is the latest I see > If you are using sysvinit as PID 1, upgrade udev to 208-7 (currently > available from unstable) > > systemd is at 204-8 upgradable to 208-6 > If you are using systemd as PID 1, you should avoid mixing udev 208 with > systemd 204 and always upgrade both [1]. > I'd suggest you install systemd-sysv (which will uninstall > sysvinit-core) which will switch your default init to systemd. > You will still have a fallback /lib/sysvini/init as long as the sysvinit > package is installed and which you can use to boot the system in case > the boot fails with systemd. > [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=75#35 systemd is working (with handwritten grub line) Networking is back to automatically working I'll wait a bit before full switchover [Need to check printer etc Its often a source of trouble because Canon drivers are not the debian supplied ones ] Thanks again! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/25d2d1a3-fa23-4cc3-9478-f69be11f6...@googlegroups.com
Re: networking fails with temporary systemd (was auto starting of ppp has stopped working)
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 3:40:03 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 14.08.2014 um 05:32 schrieb Rusi Mody: > > Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 pppd[594]: Couldn't open the /dev/ppp device: No > > such file or directory > Since you don't have the /dev/ppp device, I assume you are not using > udev 208-7? > Could you please post the version of udev (and systemd) you are using? Ok after dist-upgrade, box is at systemd 208-6 udev 208-6 libpam-systemd removed sysvinit, sysvinit-core, sysvinit-utils installed all at 2.88dsf-53.3 systemd-shim at 6-3 All show as latest. Does this look ok? I'll be checking if there is any improvement with booting with systemd. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/e46f71d5-4ff2-49d4-be9c-2a57dfd77...@googlegroups.com
Re: networking fails with temporary systemd (was auto starting of ppp has stopped working)
Am 14.08.2014 16:02, schrieb Rusi Mody: > On Thursday, August 14, 2014 3:40:03 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Biebl wrote: >> Am 14.08.2014 um 05:32 schrieb Rusi Mody: >>> Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 pppd[594]: Couldn't open the /dev/ppp device: No >>> such file or directory > >> Since you don't have the /dev/ppp device, I assume you are not using >> udev 208-7? > >> Could you please post the version of udev (and systemd) you are using? > > > Thanks Michael > > Just ran an aptitude update. > > After that: > > udev is at 208-6 which is the latest I see If you are using sysvinit as PID 1, upgrade udev to 208-7 (currently available from unstable) > systemd is at 204-8 upgradable to 208-6 If you are using systemd as PID 1, you should avoid mixing udev 208 with systemd 204 and always upgrade both [1]. I'd suggest you install systemd-sysv (which will uninstall sysvinit-core) which will switch your default init to systemd. You will still have a fallback /lib/sysvini/init as long as the sysvinit package is installed and which you can use to boot the system in case the boot fails with systemd. [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=75#35 -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: networking fails with temporary systemd (was auto starting of ppp has stopped working)
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 9:10:02 PM UTC+5:30, Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Rusi Mody wrote: > > To add to my earlier report: > > I managed to remove graphviz and its associated libraries. > > So that now aptitude dist-upgrade gives me only 1 'issue' : > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > > systemd-sysv : Conflicts: sysvinit-core but 2.88dsf-53.3 is to be > > installed. > > The following actions will resolve these dependencies: > > Remove the following packages: > > 1) sysvinit-core > You can either accept to remove sysvinit-core and run with systemd > only or install systemd-shim and you won't be prompted to install > systemd-sysv - and you'll be able to boot with sysvinit by default or > systemd if you add "init=/lib/systemd/systemd" to the kernel cmdline. > (the archives have this repeated a number of times!) systemd-shim is currently installed Running with init=/bin/systemd makes networking stop working And /bin/systemd is softlinked to /lib/systemd/systemd so I guess that is a non-difference -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/efb5bddb-7a9b-43b1-b866-4074c70fb...@googlegroups.com
Re: networking fails with temporary systemd (was auto starting of ppp has stopped working)
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Rusi Mody wrote: > > To add to my earlier report: > > I managed to remove graphviz and its associated libraries. > > So that now aptitude dist-upgrade gives me only 1 'issue' : > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > systemd-sysv : Conflicts: sysvinit-core but 2.88dsf-53.3 is to be installed. > The following actions will resolve these dependencies: > > Remove the following packages: > 1) sysvinit-core You can either accept to remove sysvinit-core and run with systemd only or install systemd-shim and you won't be prompted to install systemd-sysv - and you'll be able to boot with sysvinit by default or systemd if you add "init=/lib/systemd/systemd" to the kernel cmdline. (the archives have this repeated a number of times!) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SwotZ5w0JMb7aA2iU=3zickvooeakc-vacb_gis8l3...@mail.gmail.com
Re: networking fails with temporary systemd (was auto starting of ppp has stopped working)
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 8:00:03 PM UTC+5:30, Rusi Mody wrote: > On Thursday, August 14, 2014 3:40:03 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Biebl wrote: > > Could you please post the version of udev (and systemd) you are using? > > > Thanks Michael To add to my earlier report: I managed to remove graphviz and its associated libraries. So that now aptitude dist-upgrade gives me only 1 'issue' : The following packages have unmet dependencies: systemd-sysv : Conflicts: sysvinit-core but 2.88dsf-53.3 is to be installed. The following actions will resolve these dependencies: Remove the following packages: 1) sysvinit-core -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/f5ced6dd-b9af-4095-8bd9-34177ce73...@googlegroups.com
Re: networking fails with temporary systemd (was auto starting of ppp has stopped working)
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 3:40:03 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 14.08.2014 um 05:32 schrieb Rusi Mody: > > Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 pppd[594]: Couldn't open the /dev/ppp device: No > > such file or directory > Since you don't have the /dev/ppp device, I assume you are not using > udev 208-7? > Could you please post the version of udev (and systemd) you are using? Thanks Michael Just ran an aptitude update. After that: udev is at 208-6 which is the latest I see systemd is at 204-8 upgradable to 208-6 Trying to upgrade systemd gives me: colord will be removed gnome-sushi will be removed gvfs will be removed gvfs-backends will be removed gvfs-daemons will be removed libpam-systemd will be removed nautilus will be removed packagekit will be removed packagekit-tools will be removed policykit-1 will be removed policykit-1-gnome will be removed udisks2 will be removed libsystemd-daemon0 (version 204-8) will be upgraded to version 208-6 libsystemd-journal0 (version 204-8) will be upgraded to version 208-6 libsystemd-journal0:i386 (version 204-8) will be upgraded to version 208-6 libsystemd-login0 (version 204-8) will be upgraded to version 208-6 nautilus-data (version 3.8.2-3) will be upgraded to version 3.12.2-1 systemd (version 204-8) will be upgraded to version 208-6 Some other things which I looked at: Trying to upgrade libpam-systemd gives me sysvinit-core will be removed libpam-systemd (version 204-8) will be upgraded to version 208-6 libsystemd-daemon0 (version 204-8) will be upgraded to version 208-6 libsystemd-journal0 (version 204-8) will be upgraded to version 208-6 libsystemd-journal0:i386 (version 204-8) will be upgraded to version 208-6 libsystemd-login0 (version 204-8) will be upgraded to version 208-6 systemd (version 204-8) will be upgraded to version 208-6 systemd-sysv (version 208-6) will be installed sysvinit is at 2.88dsf-53.2 upgradable to 2.88dsf-53.3 Trying to upgrade sysvinit gives: sysvinit (version 2.88dsf-53.2) will be upgraded to version 2.88dsf-53.3 init (version 1.20) will be installed which seems the least drastic so far! I find that on trying aptitude dist-upgrade I get a large load of installs/upgrades and these removes: Remove the following packages: 1) graphviz 2) rsyslog 3) sysvinit-core Keep the following packages at their current version: 4) libgvc6 [Not Installed] 5) liblognorm1 [Not Installed] So I try to remove graphviz and related libs but I get E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. E: Unable to correct dependencies E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. E: Unable to correct dependencies E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. E: Unable to correct dependencies E: Unable to lock the download directory So I am going to try to remove graphviz and its libraries one piece at a time... Meanwhile if you have any further advice... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ed2f8f3e-5d91-4524-a2be-1e70a8028...@googlegroups.com
Re: networking fails with temporary systemd (was auto starting of ppp has stopped working)
Am 14.08.2014 um 05:32 schrieb Rusi Mody: > Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 pppd[594]: Couldn't open the /dev/ppp device: No > such file or directory Since you don't have the /dev/ppp device, I assume you are not using udev 208-7? Could you please post the version of udev (and systemd) you are using? Thanks -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: networking fails with temporary systemd (was auto starting of ppp has stopped working)
On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 3:20:02 PM UTC+5:30, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 11 aug 14, 07:57:05, Rusi Mody wrote: > > If I start from grub using init=/bin/systemd it boots but networking > > does not work. > > > Please attach the file 'bootlog' after running: > > journalctl -alb > bootlog Thanks Andrei Tried doing that... does not seem to reach the list. So pruning down to what seems relevant and inlining below. Notes: 1. IPs have been masked. They 'look' ok (are not 192.168 types) 2. You asked flasgs -alb. The l does not seem valid. This is with -ab 3. Theres some resolvconf issue. There are bugs I see like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/resolvconf/+bug/1000244 But I dont know what changes with systemd. 4. The second bunch of lines probably comes from the manually given modprobe ppp pon dsl-provider --bootlog excerpt-- Aug 14 08:13:14 debian64 networking[418]: Configuring network interfaces...resolvconf: Error: /etc/resolvconf/run/interface either does not exist or is not a directory Aug 14 08:13:14 debian64 console-setup[444]: Setting up console font and keymap...done. Aug 14 08:13:14 debian64 systemd[1]: Started LSB: Set console font and keymap. Aug 14 08:13:14 debian64 networking[418]: resolvconf: Error: /etc/resolvconf/run/interface either does not exist or is not a directory Aug 14 08:13:14 debian64 kernel: IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready Aug 14 08:13:14 debian64 kernel: e100 :04:08.0 eth0: NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex Aug 14 08:13:14 debian64 kernel: IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready Aug 14 08:13:14 debian64 networking[418]: resolvconf: Error: /etc/resolvconf/run/interface either does not exist or is not a directory Aug 14 08:13:14 debian64 networking[418]: grep: /etc/resolv.conf: No such file or directory Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 ntpdate[596]: Can't find host 0.debian.pool.ntp.org: Name or service not known (-2) Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 ntpdate[596]: Can't find host 1.debian.pool.ntp.org: Name or service not known (-2) Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 ntpdate[596]: Can't find host 2.debian.pool.ntp.org: Name or service not known (-2) Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 ntpdate[596]: Can't find host 3.debian.pool.ntp.org: Name or service not known (-2) Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 ntpdate[596]: no servers can be used, exiting Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 pppd[594]: Plugin rp-pppoe.so loaded. Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 pppd[594]: Couldn't open the /dev/ppp device: No such file or directory Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 pppd[594]: Linux kernel does not support PPPoE -- are you running 2.4.x? Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 pppd[594]: Exit. Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 networking[418]: Plugin rp-pppoe.so loaded. Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 networking[418]: Couldn't open the /dev/ppp device: No such file or directory Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 networking[418]: Linux kernel does not support PPPoE -- are you running 2.4.x? Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 networking[418]: Failed to bring up dsl-provider. Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 ntpdate[632]: Can't find host 0.debian.pool.ntp.org: Name or service not known (-2) Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 networking[418]: done. Further down the file Aug 14 08:13:48 debian64 sudo[957]: siva : TTY=tty1 ; PWD=/home/siva ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/sbin/modprobe pppoe Aug 14 08:13:48 debian64 sudo[957]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session opened for user root by siva(uid=0) Aug 14 08:13:48 debian64 kernel: PPP generic driver version 2.4.2 Aug 14 08:13:48 debian64 kernel: NET: Registered protocol family 24 Aug 14 08:13:48 debian64 sudo[957]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session closed for user root Aug 14 08:13:48 debian64 sudo[959]: siva : TTY=tty1 ; PWD=/home/siva ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/pon dsl-provider Aug 14 08:13:48 debian64 sudo[959]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session opened for user root by siva(uid=0) Aug 14 08:13:48 debian64 pppd[960]: Plugin rp-pppoe.so loaded. Aug 14 08:13:48 debian64 pppd[967]: pppd 2.4.6 started by siva, uid 0 Aug 14 08:13:48 debian64 sudo[959]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session closed for user root Aug 14 08:13:48 debian64 pppd[967]: PPP session is 10294 Aug 14 08:13:48 debian64 pppd[967]: Connected to 00:e0:fc:37:3c:02 via interface eth0 Aug 14 08:13:48 debian64 pppd[967]: Using interface ppp0 Aug 14 08:13:48 debian64 pppd[967]: Connect: ppp0 <--> eth0 Aug 14 08:13:50 debian64 sudo[972]: siva : TTY=tty1 ; PWD=/home/siva ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/sbin/ifconfig Aug 14 08:13:50 debian64 sudo[972]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session opened for user root by siva(uid=0) Aug 14 08:13:50 debian64 sudo[972]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session closed for user root Aug 14 08:13:50 debian64 colord[760]: Automatic remove of LBP1210-Gray.. from cups-LBP1210 Aug 14 08:13:50 debian64 colord[760]: Profile removed: LBP1210-Gray.. Aug 14 08:13:50 debian64 colord[760]: device removed: cups-LBP1210 Aug 14 08:13:51 debia
Re: networking fails with temporary systemd (was auto starting of ppp has stopped working)
On Lu, 11 aug 14, 07:57:05, Rusi Mody wrote: > > If I start from grub using init=/bin/systemd it boots but networking > does not work. Please attach the file 'bootlog' after running: journalctl -alb > bootlog Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
networking fails with temporary systemd (was auto starting of ppp has stopped working)
On Saturday, August 2, 2014 4:10:02 AM UTC+5:30, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 31.07.2014 20:27, schrieb Rusi Mody: > > After some recent upgrades (this is on jessie) > > auto starting of ppp has stopped working. > > So every time after booting I now have to run pppoeconf. > > Any ideas? > This is a sysvinit specific problem [1]. > Spefically, udev no longer creates dead devices notes which are used to > trigger the auto-loading of kernel modules. > Under systemd this is done properly, for sysvinit, we will need a > workaround as in [2]. > The solution is *not* to add the module to /etc/modules. > [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=749021 > [2] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=749021#10 Getting back to this since I have a bit of time... My system currently seems to be half way between systemd and init. ie by default process 1 is init; systemd seems to be there on the system but its not 1 by default If I start from grub using init=/bin/systemd it boots but networking does not work. I'd appreciate help on ironing this out and moving on to a full systemd install In more details: As earlier described on this thread: After some upgrade, the kernel modules related to ppp (some 3 or 4 of them) stopped being installed automatically. So from then on I am modprobing those and then manually running $ pon dsl-provider If however I boot grub with init=/bin/systemd then it does not work. ie - At start those modules remain non-loaded - modprobing them (seems to) load them in that they show in lsmod|grep ppp - Furthermore ifconfig seems to show a proper ppp0 inet addr after pon dsl-provider - But firefox cant find any page -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/43564f7b-9e00-4d29-8b3c-b8828442f...@googlegroups.com
Re: auto starting of ppp has stopped working
On Saturday, August 2, 2014 4:10:02 AM UTC+5:30, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 31.07.2014 20:27, schrieb Rusi Mody: > > After some recent upgrades (this is on jessie) > > auto starting of ppp has stopped working. > > So every time after booting I now have to run pppoeconf. > > Any ideas? > This is a sysvinit specific problem [1]. > Spefically, udev no longer creates dead devices notes which are used to > trigger the auto-loading of kernel modules. > Under systemd this is done properly, for sysvinit, we will need a > workaround as in [2]. > The solution is *not* to add the module to /etc/modules. > [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=749021 > [2] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=749021#10 Thanks Michael I see that that bug links to https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=755258 which is exactly my problem (now I can call it a bug!) Since I currently have a bandaid solution I guess best to wait for the dust around systemd to settle a bit... What do you think? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ac2da5c6-ce9c-4298-8bd7-ca37cbb46...@googlegroups.com
Re: auto starting of ppp has stopped working
Am 31.07.2014 20:27, schrieb Rusi Mody: > After some recent upgrades (this is on jessie) > auto starting of ppp has stopped working. > > So every time after booting I now have to run pppoeconf. > > Any ideas? This is a sysvinit specific problem [1]. Spefically, udev no longer creates dead devices notes which are used to trigger the auto-loading of kernel modules. Under systemd this is done properly, for sysvinit, we will need a workaround as in [2]. The solution is *not* to add the module to /etc/modules. [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=749021 [2] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=749021#10 -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: auto starting of ppp has stopped working
On Friday, August 1, 2014 3:30:02 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 02:04:45AM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote: > > On Friday, August 1, 2014 1:10:02 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > [...] > > > > tl;dr: > > > http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/tldr > > > "too long; didn't read"? ... um ... what was? > > My own post 'above' is what the 'tl;dr' referred to :-) > What does tl;dr stand for in that case? Umm... It stands for (thats the usage Ive seen often enough anyway...) "If you, dear reader, have tl;dr-ed the above, then here's a summary" Here is what wikipedia says: | "tl;dr" can range from a brilliant and informative disquisition being | given up due to a reader's lack of endurance, interest, or | intelligence, to a clustered composition of such utter failure to | communicate that it has left the capable reader with a headache; | judging this range is very subjective. > BTW, it makes little sense having a summary at the end of the post as > one has to read all the contents first! :-D Yes, admittedly what Ive seen (often though not always) is a indicator at the top pointing to a summary at bottom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/86a2e744-2eb7-49ab-98cd-83e35cacd...@googlegroups.com
Re: auto starting of ppp has stopped working
On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 02:04:45AM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote: > On Friday, August 1, 2014 1:10:02 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > [...] > > > > tl;dr: > > http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/tldr > > > "too long; didn't read"? ... um ... what was? > > My own post 'above' is what the 'tl;dr' referred to :-) What does tl;dr stand for in that case? BTW, it makes little sense having a summary at the end of the post as one has to read all the contents first! :-D -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140801095057.GA28005@tal
Re: auto starting of ppp has stopped working
On Friday, August 1, 2014 1:10:02 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 12:13:43AM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote:
> > On Friday, August 1, 2014 12:20:02 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 09:32:08PM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote:
> > > > So now the question is:
> > > > What is the 'modern' way of automatically doing 'modprobe pppoe'
> > > > at boot/ifup time?
> > > > Evidently something has changed that has made that stop happening...
> > > Put it in /etc/modules. I hope that is still the place. BTW, a quick
> > > google should have helped with this ... was Google unhelpful in this
> > > instance?
> > A quick google tells me that there are all sorts of places:
> > /etc/{modules,modprobe.d,modules-load.d}
> So, did you try /etc/modules?
Of course if modprobe is working putting it into /etc/modules should also.
I thought I explained why I find that an unsavoury solution. Let me try again.
The kernel is the innermost core of the system
The user is the outermost peel of the onion
Networking is somewhere in between.
This part was working and has stopped is part of the networking subsystem.
A good solution should be in that same arena.
Ideal would be (something like):
"Install such-&-such package. It takes care of this"
Slightly less but still acceptable would be:
Add such-&-such line to /etc/networking (or one of the other networking
config files)
Since I cant seem to find any such solutions, I prefer the following user-level
bandaid to a kernel level one:
$ cat ~/bin/pon
sudo modprobe pppoe
sudo pon dsl-provider
> [...]
> > tl;dr:
> http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/tldr
> "too long; didn't read"? ... um ... what was?
My own post 'above' is what the 'tl;dr' referred to :-)
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Re: auto starting of ppp has stopped working
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:49 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 09:32:08PM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote: >> >> So now the question is: >> >> What is the 'modern' way of automatically doing 'modprobe pppoe' >> at boot/ifup time? >> >> Evidently something has changed that has made that stop happening... > > Put it in /etc/modules. I hope that is still the place. BTW, a quick > google should have helped with this ... was Google unhelpful in this > instance? Since "/etc/modules" is a Debianism, for systemd in Debian, there's a symlink from "/etc/modules-load.d/modules.conf" to "/etc/modules". -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=sxoag8urabb6nagppzyinr-j6exmmho+-lz2vkkec6...@mail.gmail.com
Re: auto starting of ppp has stopped working
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:32 AM, Rusi Mody wrote: > On Friday, August 1, 2014 12:10:02 AM UTC+5:30, Rusi Mody wrote: >> >> After some recent upgrades (this is on jessie) >> auto starting of ppp has stopped working. >> >> So every time after booting I now have to run pppoeconf. > > Some progress... and a different question: > > Doing: > > # pon dsl-provider > > I get: > > Plugin rp-pppoe.so loaded. > Couldn't open the /dev/ppp device: No such file or directory > Linux kernel does not support PPPoE -- are you running 2.4.x? > > However: > # modprobe pppoe > > pulls in pppox and ppp_generic as well. > > After that > # pon dsl-provider > > works > > So now the question is: > > What is the 'modern' way of automatically doing 'modprobe pppoe' > at boot/ifup time? > > Evidently something has changed that has made that stop happening... Either "/etc/modprobe.d/.conf" or in "/etc/modules" if the former isn't early enough. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=sw3jh5rwuxi9zbnyr-0ny6cbfz3kpyzaldbbr+cu4f...@mail.gmail.com
Re: auto starting of ppp has stopped working
On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 12:13:43AM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote:
> On Friday, August 1, 2014 12:20:02 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 09:32:08PM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote:
> > > So now the question is:
> > > What is the 'modern' way of automatically doing 'modprobe pppoe'
> > > at boot/ifup time?
> > > Evidently something has changed that has made that stop happening...
>
> > Put it in /etc/modules. I hope that is still the place. BTW, a quick
> > google should have helped with this ... was Google unhelpful in this
> > instance?
>
> A quick google tells me that there are all sorts of places:
> /etc/{modules,modprobe.d,modules-load.d}
So, did you try /etc/modules?
[...]
> tl;dr:
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/tldr
"too long; didn't read"? ... um ... what was?
> 1. It was working; and unexpectedly stopped
> 2. I would file a bug-report; not sure against what... pppoeconf maybe?
> 3. I suspect -- with insufficient evidence! -- systemd
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Re: auto starting of ppp has stopped working
On Friday, August 1, 2014 12:20:02 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 09:32:08PM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote:
> > So now the question is:
> > What is the 'modern' way of automatically doing 'modprobe pppoe'
> > at boot/ifup time?
> > Evidently something has changed that has made that stop happening...
> Put it in /etc/modules. I hope that is still the place. BTW, a quick
> google should have helped with this ... was Google unhelpful in this
> instance?
A quick google tells me that there are all sorts of places:
/etc/{modules,modprobe.d,modules-load.d}
More googling tells me that other distros use other places.
Comparing my old (and working) debian with the current not-quite-working one
tells me that these have all changed some.
And so I begin to suspect the currently fashionable suspect: systemd :-)
Now if a band-aid solution is the best we can have, I'd prefer a user level one.
Meddling with a system-level file means all sorts of headaches at unexpected
points of time. eg when upgrading I am likely to get a dialog saying:
"Here is a file that is different from the system supplied one. Which do you
want?"
I was more hoping for some new(?) /etc/network/interfaces stanza that would do
the job. [All my attempts so far on that front have not worked]
So for now I make do with this user-level bandaid:
$ cat ~/bin/pon
sudo modprobe pppoe
sudo pon dsl-provider
tl;dr:
1. It was working; and unexpectedly stopped
2. I would file a bug-report; not sure against what... pppoeconf maybe?
3. I suspect -- with insufficient evidence! -- systemd
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Re: auto starting of ppp has stopped working
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 09:32:08PM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote: > > So now the question is: > > What is the 'modern' way of automatically doing 'modprobe pppoe' > at boot/ifup time? > > Evidently something has changed that has made that stop happening... Put it in /etc/modules. I hope that is still the place. BTW, a quick google should have helped with this ... was Google unhelpful in this instance? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140801064926.GA20873@tal
Re: auto starting of ppp has stopped working
On Friday, August 1, 2014 12:10:02 AM UTC+5:30, Rusi Mody wrote: > After some recent upgrades (this is on jessie) > auto starting of ppp has stopped working. > > > So every time after booting I now have to run pppoeconf. Some progress... and a different question: Doing: # pon dsl-provider I get: Plugin rp-pppoe.so loaded. Couldn't open the /dev/ppp device: No such file or directory Linux kernel does not support PPPoE -- are you running 2.4.x? However: # modprobe pppoe pulls in pppox and ppp_generic as well. After that # pon dsl-provider works So now the question is: What is the 'modern' way of automatically doing 'modprobe pppoe' at boot/ifup time? Evidently something has changed that has made that stop happening... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ae8dab05-9809-411a-8d16-a9f6d727a...@googlegroups.com
auto starting of ppp has stopped working
After some recent upgrades (this is on jessie) auto starting of ppp has stopped working. So every time after booting I now have to run pppoeconf. Any ideas? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ccd02d93-ee70-461d-bd74-ac5e0e042...@googlegroups.com
Not able to access anything beyond the PPP server.
Hi All, I'm Sai Krishna. I have a very fundamental problem. I'm trying to establish a connection from a client to LAN using PPP, where my machine is the client. Actually, I was able to ping the PPP server but not able to ping other machines in that network beyond the PPP server. I have done "route add -net -.-.-.- dev ppp0", once the connection is established. Also, I was just able to ping to the PPP server and when I tried ssh, the PPP connection is getting lost. Even the traceroute was unsuccessful. I will be grateful to you if you help me come over this problem. Eagerly waiting for your reply. Thank you, Regards, Sai Krishna.
Re: Overcoming Debian(Linux?) paranoia - a gnome-ppp example
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 12:24:53PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sat 12 May 2012 at 09:06:30 +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > > > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 05:02:31AM +0100, elbbit wrote: > > > myhost$ adduser ricky dialout > > > > Furthermore, the user created by the debian installer (uid 1000) > > is automatically in this group. > > I'd be inclined to say she isn't. If ppp is installed she'd be in > group dip. You are probably right: my desktop user is in dialout and I don't remember adding them but I must have done. A fresh squeeze install on a mac mini yesterday yields a user in dip but not dialout. Thanks for correcting me! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120512155007.GA4377@debian
Re: Overcoming Debian(Linux?) paranoia - a gnome-ppp example
On Fri, 11 May 2012 22:39:49 -0500, Richard wrote in message <4faddb85.3060...@cloud85.net>: > I understand that historically Linux's roots are in a > *MASSIVELY* multi-user environment. ..correct. > *BUT* I'm a single user on an inherently physically secure ..you occupy Bouvet Island??? ;o) > single user laptop. ..wrong, you have a multi user system on your laptop. ..and, you're getting useful support for free from people who knows how to debug ppp and gnome-ppp, which is the only _useful_ fact in my post here. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120512172337.4e7db...@celsius.lan
Re: Overcoming Debian(Linux?) paranoia - a gnome-ppp example
On Sat 12 May 2012 at 09:06:30 +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 05:02:31AM +0100, elbbit wrote: > > myhost$ adduser ricky dialout > > Furthermore, the user created by the debian installer (uid 1000) > is automatically in this group. I'd be inclined to say she isn't. If ppp is installed she'd be in group dip. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120512112453.GD19943@desktop
Re: Overcoming Debian(Linux?) paranoia - a gnome-ppp example
On Sat 12 May 2012 at 05:02:31 +0100, elbbit wrote: > As wvdial uses a system-wide configuration file, I should imagine that a > regular system user just needs to be added to the dialout group, with > command: > > myhost$ adduser ricky dialout Why does a user need direct access to the serial port to run a script? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120512112151.GC19943@desktop
Re: Overcoming Debian(Linux?) paranoia - a gnome-ppp example
On Fri, 11 May 2012 22:39:49 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: (...) > I just installed Debian 6.0.4 using Synaptic to add gnome-ppp. My first > attempt to configure my modem failed *SILENTLY* (but's another gripe;) > Being inherently suspicious, I chose 'root terminal'. Then executed > gnome-ppp. > All went fine. You call that "paranoia" but it can be a simple bug. > That established I had a "permissions" issue :< I then did >man gnome-ppp > Received *NO _USEFUL_ info!!!* That's also something historical. Programmers are not usually very much interested -nor have the time- in documenting "their babies". > I'm the _*ONLY*_ person to have physical access to the system. How do I > force Debian to achieve functionality of CPM-80? [me date self ;/ LOL! You better force yourself to find a solution for your problem in the proper way. Greetinsg, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/joldtt$s0$6...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Overcoming Debian(Linux?) paranoia - a gnome-ppp example
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 05:02:31AM +0100, elbbit wrote: > myhost$ adduser ricky dialout Furthermore, the user created by the debian installer (uid 1000) is automatically in this group. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120512080630.GB27051@debian
Re: Overcoming Debian(Linux?) paranoia - a gnome-ppp example
On 12/05/12 13:39, Richard Owlett wrote: > I understand that historically Linux's roots are in a *MASSIVELY* > multi-user environment. > *BUT* I'm a single user on an inherently physically secure single user > laptop. > > [As an aside to an ongoing thread, my primary internet access is via a > analog 56K dial-up modem ;] > > I just installed Debian 6.0.4 using Synaptic to add gnome-ppp. > My first attempt to configure my modem failed *SILENTLY* (but's another > gripe;) It may be relevant - it would be useful if you could post any relevant output, info from logs etc. > Being inherently suspicious, I chose 'root terminal'. > Then executed gnome-ppp. > All went fine. > > That established I had a "permissions" issue Could you be more specific please? Generally your user should be in the dip group (and the dialup group for connection scripts). > :< > I then did > man gnome-ppp > Received *NO _USEFUL_ info!!!* Sorry, can't help you there (no GNOME). When I'm stuck for local documentation I try locate (mlocate as a user whos a member of the group). eg. $ mlocate ppp | grep /share/man $ mlocate ppp | grep README | grep /share/doc If you could tell us what your modem[*1] is some of the GNOME users could help you get gppp configured. Or there's wvdial, or pon/poff, if you don't need a gui tool. I promise, despite the unfortunate experiences of a few - for many dialup networking in Debian is simple and reliable. :-) Most cases like yours - where setting up a connection wasn't simple to begin with, are usually fairly simple to resolve. [*1] make and model, interface (eg, serial, pci/internal, USB), ISP, wireless/PSTN. If it's a wireless modem (3G) has it been initialised, does it use a PIN, and, is it prepaid or postpaid? Kind regards -- Iceweasel/Firefox/Chrome/Chromium/Iceape/IE extensions for finding answers to questions about Debian:- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/Scott_Ferguson/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fade8c0.90...@gmail.com
Re: Overcoming Debian(Linux?) paranoia - a gnome-ppp example
On 12/05/12 13:39, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm the _*ONLY*_ person to have physical access to the system. How do I force Debian to achieve functionality of CPM-80? [me date self Basically you need to (as root) add your user to the dialup group. grep dialout /etc/group man addgrp --gid ??? your-user Even on a dialup system, it is advisable not to break the basic system security. it isn't so long ago that dialout malware was common (albeit no on *nix). While you are at it, try less /etc/group and see what other groups you might also want to add your-user to, e,g audio, cdrom, floppy, tape, sudo, scanner, saned. -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fade14c.3080...@woa.com.au
Re: Overcoming Debian(Linux?) paranoia - a gnome-ppp example
On 12/05/12 04:39, Richard Owlett wrote: > Being inherently suspicious, I chose 'root terminal'. > Then executed gnome-ppp. > All went fine. > > That established I had a "permissions" issue :< > I then did > man gnome-ppp > Received *NO _USEFUL_ info!!!* As wvdial uses a system-wide configuration file, I should imagine that a regular system user just needs to be added to the dialout group, with command: myhost$ adduser ricky dialout HTH, elbbit -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fade0d7.8090...@gmail.com
Overcoming Debian(Linux?) paranoia - a gnome-ppp example
I understand that historically Linux's roots are in a *MASSIVELY* multi-user environment. *BUT* I'm a single user on an inherently physically secure single user laptop. [As an aside to an ongoing thread, my primary internet access is via a analog 56K dial-up modem ;] I just installed Debian 6.0.4 using Synaptic to add gnome-ppp. My first attempt to configure my modem failed *SILENTLY* (but's another gripe;) Being inherently suspicious, I chose 'root terminal'. Then executed gnome-ppp. All went fine. That established I had a "permissions" issue :< I then did man gnome-ppp Received *NO _USEFUL_ info!!!* I'm the _*ONLY*_ person to have physical access to the system. How do I force Debian to achieve functionality of CPM-80? [me date self ;/ LOL! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4faddb85.3060...@cloud85.net
RESOLVED - was [Re: NEWBIE sanity check re gnome-ppp PLEASE]
Richard Owlett wrote: [snip] DEBIAN 6.0.3 with GNOME desktop 2. initial attempt to use gnome-ppp failed [snip synopsis of original troubleshooting It was a permissions issue. I was not a member of 'dialout' group. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f9a9fbc.80...@pcnetinc.com
Re: NEWBIE sanity check re gnome-ppp PLEASE
--- On Wed, 4/25/12, Indulekha wrote: > > > Then install pppconfig and create your connection with > 'sudo pppconfig' run in the terminal, then start the > connection > with ppp-on-boot or manually using pon. > That's the simple, easy, reliable way to do it, and it > doesn't > require any particular desktop (or even a desktop at all). > Also, do make sure your user is a member of the dip group. > I was going to suggest pppconfig. Until very recently I was on dialup with an internal USR serial modem. While I didn't have problems with gnome-ppp, I preferred using pppconfig. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1335394761.54225.yahoomailclas...@web162201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com
Re: NEWBIE sanity check re gnome-ppp PLEASE
Richard Owlett wrote: > > At first I tried tried running it from sub-menu > (Applications-Internet-GNOME ppp). > Failure message was "Can not open modem." The logfile > expanded it saying "Cannot open /dev/ttyS3: Permission denied". > FIRST, find out what kind of modem you have, where it is, and whether it's supported or not. Lots of them are not, or are but you have to manually install some 3rd party driver. Then install pppconfig and create your connection with 'sudo pppconfig' run in the terminal, then start the connection with ppp-on-boot or manually using pon. That's the simple, easy, reliable way to do it, and it doesn't require any particular desktop (or even a desktop at all). Also, do make sure your user is a member of the dip group. -- ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ Indulekha -- ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ Indulekha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120425223846.GA30063@radhesyama
Re: NEWBIE sanity check re gnome-ppp PLEASE
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 08:38:10PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Camaleón wrote: > >On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 23:46:22 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > >>OK already -- I've written both UNread manuals and MISread test > >>procedures ;/ > >> > >>What am I using - I'm not sure: > >>1. the *HAND written* label on CD I used to load > >>identified it as > >> DEBIAN 6.0.3 with GNOME desktop > > > >You better be sure about what you install as your OS, sir, or you can > >encounter bad suprises... Have you verified the md5sum of the media to > >know it comes from a trusted source? > > My phrasing was poor - posted way past my bedtime. > What I meant was I was unsure of the version number. It IS 6.0.3. > It was downloaded from a link given on debian.org (don't recall > which mirror) > Today I compared the MD5 of the ISO to that given on > http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/debian-cd/6.0.3-live/i386/iso-hybrid/ > . It checked OK. > > > > >>2. initial attempt to use gnome-ppp failed > > I tried about 6 months ago to get gnome-ppp working, and I was never satisfied with it. It seemed like maybe when I changed settings, they didn't take effect until I logged out/in again. Anyway, I dumped it for wvdial launched from the gnome panel. You could probably google wvdial and my name and find the thread I started on this list. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120425213300.ga13...@aurora.owens.net
Re: NEWBIE sanity check re gnome-ppp PLEASE
On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 20:38:10 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Camaleón wrote: (...) >> You better be sure about what you install as your OS, sir, or you can >> encounter bad suprises... Have you verified the md5sum of the media to >> know it comes from a trusted source? > > My phrasing was poor - posted way past my bedtime. What I > meant was I was unsure of the version number. It IS 6.0.3. > It was downloaded from a link given on debian.org (don't recall which > mirror) > Today I compared the MD5 of the ISO to that given on > http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/debian-cd/6.0.3-live/ i386/iso-hybrid/ > . It checked OK. Ooo-kay :-) >>> 2. initial attempt to use gnome-ppp failed >> >> What did you do or how did you run it? > > At first I tried tried running it from sub-menu > (Applications-Internet-GNOME ppp). > Failure message was "Can not open modem." The logfile expanded it saying > "Cannot open /dev/ttyS3: Permission denied". And have you checked if your modem is detected by your system at that port (/dev/ttyS3)? "dmesg | grep -i ttys" will tell more about the available ports. Anyway, what kind of modem do you have (external rs-232, external USB, internal pci, embedded-whatever-linmodem-crap) :-) >> gnome-ppp is just a GUI frontend >> for Wvdial. > > I had used "System->Administration->Software Center" to install a > dialer. > gnome-ppp was the only option offered - so I loaded it. Yes, and that's right. I only wanted to point you another option to get the job done, in the event gnome-ppp fails at some point. >> What was the exact output you got? > > root@debianowl:/home/richard# gnome-ppp --version > > (gnome-ppp:2629): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment > with non-zero page size is deprecated > > (gnome-ppp:2629): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment > with non-zero page size is deprecated WVCONF: /root/.wvdial.conf > root@debianowl:/home/richard# > > Got the same response whether or not as root. Don't run it as root but as normal user. Anyway, the version does not come out :-? >>> How do I use gnome-ppp as normal [NOT super] user? >> >> I'd would start by launching the application from the GNOME menu, it >> should come up a wizard. > > > I tried that. That was first hint something was wrong ;< If something is wrong you have to try to solve it first :-) > Then I tried in "normal" terminal getting "richard@debianowl:~$ > gnome-ppp > > (gnome-ppp:2737): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment > with non-zero page size is deprecated > > (gnome-ppp:2737): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment > with non-zero page size is deprecated WVCONF: /home/richard/.wvdial.conf > GNOME PPP: Connecting... > GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Ignoring malformed input line: ";Do NOT edit this > file by hand!" > GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.60 > GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Cannot open /dev/ttyS3: Permission denied > GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Cannot open /dev/ttyS3: Permission denied > GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Cannot open /dev/ttyS3: Permission denied " That's good. I mean, at least you know where to look at and I would start by knowing where is the modem detected and how about its perms. > Then I tried in "normal" terminal getting "root@debianowl:/home/richard# > gnome-ppp > > (gnome-ppp:2819): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment > with non-zero page size is deprecated > > (gnome-ppp:2819): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment > with non-zero page size is deprecated WVCONF: /root/.wvdial.conf > GNOME PPP: Connecting... > GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Ignoring malformed input line: ";Do NOT edit this > file by hand!" > GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.60 > GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Cannot get information for serial port. > GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Initializing modem. > GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Sending: ATZ > GNOME PPP: STDERR: OK > GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 > GNOME PPP: STDERR: OK > GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Modem initialized. > GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Sending: ATM1L3DT999- > GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Waiting for carrier. > GNOME PPP: STDERR: ATM1L3DT999- > GNOME PPP: STDERR: Caught signal 2: Attempting to exit gracefully... > GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Disconnecting at Tue Apr 24 19:58:54 2012 > root@debianowl:/home/richard# > " Okay, that log gives us many useful info: 1/ First, you go further when running from root so it can be s
Re: NEWBIE sanity check re gnome-ppp PLEASE
Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 23:46:22 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: OK already -- I've written both UNread manuals and MISread test procedures ;/ What am I using - I'm not sure: 1. the *HAND written* label on CD I used to load identified it as DEBIAN 6.0.3 with GNOME desktop You better be sure about what you install as your OS, sir, or you can encounter bad suprises... Have you verified the md5sum of the media to know it comes from a trusted source? My phrasing was poor - posted way past my bedtime. What I meant was I was unsure of the version number. It IS 6.0.3. It was downloaded from a link given on debian.org (don't recall which mirror) Today I compared the MD5 of the ISO to that given on http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/debian-cd/6.0.3-live/i386/iso-hybrid/ . It checked OK. 2. initial attempt to use gnome-ppp failed What did you do or how did you run it? At first I tried tried running it from sub-menu (Applications-Internet-GNOME ppp). Failure message was "Can not open modem." The logfile expanded it saying "Cannot open /dev/ttyS3: Permission denied". gnome-ppp is just a GUI frontend for Wvdial. I had used "System->Administration->Software Center" to install a dialer. gnome-ppp was the only option offered - so I loaded it. 3. I then did man gnome-ppp The man page is very brief because the goal of gnome-ppp is very simple: create a working file for wvdial, no more no less. 4. It said there was an option for gnome-ppp --version 4A. it yielded NO version information, but brought up attempt to dial screen which failed if not super user What was the exact output you got? root@debianowl:/home/richard# gnome-ppp --version (gnome-ppp:2629): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated (gnome-ppp:2629): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated WVCONF: /root/.wvdial.conf root@debianowl:/home/richard# Got the same response whether or not as root. How do I use gnome-ppp as normal [NOT super] user? I'd would start by launching the application from the GNOME menu, it should come up a wizard. I tried that. That was first hint something was wrong ;< Then I tried in "normal" terminal getting "richard@debianowl:~$ gnome-ppp (gnome-ppp:2737): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated (gnome-ppp:2737): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated WVCONF: /home/richard/.wvdial.conf GNOME PPP: Connecting... GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Ignoring malformed input line: ";Do NOT edit this file by hand!" GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.60 GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Cannot open /dev/ttyS3: Permission denied GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Cannot open /dev/ttyS3: Permission denied GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Cannot open /dev/ttyS3: Permission denied " Then I tried in "normal" terminal getting "root@debianowl:/home/richard# gnome-ppp (gnome-ppp:2819): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated (gnome-ppp:2819): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated WVCONF: /root/.wvdial.conf GNOME PPP: Connecting... GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Ignoring malformed input line: ";Do NOT edit this file by hand!" GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.60 GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Cannot get information for serial port. GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Initializing modem. GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Sending: ATZ GNOME PPP: STDERR: OK GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 GNOME PPP: STDERR: OK GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Modem initialized. GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Sending: ATM1L3DT999-9999 GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Waiting for carrier. GNOME PPP: STDERR: ATM1L3DT999- GNOME PPP: STDERR: Caught signal 2: Attempting to exit gracefully... GNOME PPP: STDERR: --> Disconnecting at Tue Apr 24 19:58:54 2012 root@debianowl:/home/richard# " Notice that when *NOT* asking for version, it's available. > How do I create clickable icon to dial into my ISP as a 'normal' user? I can't tell for gnome-ppp but this can be usually done in wvdial by definining different ISPs profiles [sections] and then passing it as argument when calling the binary, e.g., "wvdial my_first_isp". Anyway, if you get no satisfaction with gnome-ppp, try another dialer ;-) (I, for myself, prefer to use the plain wvdial). I disagree with that philosophy. I may not end up using gnome-ppp. But ignoring a problem does not solve it. There *IS* a bug. It may be in the _operator_ ;/ After those questions are answered, how do I d
Re: NEWBIE sanity check re gnome-ppp PLEASE
On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 23:46:22 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > OK already -- I've written both UNread manuals and MISread test > procedures ;/ > > What am I using - I'm not sure: >1. the *HAND written* label on CD I used to load > identified it as > DEBIAN 6.0.3 with GNOME desktop You better be sure about what you install as your OS, sir, or you can encounter bad suprises... Have you verified the md5sum of the media to know it comes from a trusted source? > 2. initial attempt to use gnome-ppp failed What did you do or how did you run it? gnome-ppp is just a GUI frontend for Wvdial. >3. I then did >man gnome-ppp The man page is very brief because the goal of gnome-ppp is very simple: create a working file for wvdial, no more no less. >4. It said there was an option for >gnome-ppp --version >4A. it yielded NO version information, but brought up > attempt to dial >screen which failed if not super user What was the exact output you got? > How do I use gnome-ppp as normal [NOT super] user? I'd would start by launching the application from the GNOME menu, it should come up a wizard. > How do I create clickable icon to dial into my ISP as a 'normal' user? I can't tell for gnome-ppp but this can be usually done in wvdial by definining different ISPs profiles [sections] and then passing it as argument when calling the binary, e.g., "wvdial my_first_isp". Anyway, if you get no satisfaction with gnome-ppp, try another dialer ;-) (I, for myself, prefer to use the plain wvdial). > After those questions are answered, how do I download and install > SeaMonkey such that clicking an ICON will dial into my ISP and launch > SeaMonkey -ICEweasel is FROZEN out as acceptable method. Mmm... whaaat?! Once you're connected to the Internet, you open Synapctic and select Seamonkey (here renamed to "Iceape" for the suite or "iceape-browser" for the browser+composer) to download. And what happens with Iceweasel? :-? > NOTE BENE: WEB references needed as Linux not working too well now ;/ Mmm... it's not clear what[who]'s not working here >:-P Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jn3sjd$68l$4...@dough.gmane.org
NEWBIE sanity check re gnome-ppp PLEASE
OK already -- I've written both UNread manuals and MISread
test procedures ;/
What am I using - I'm not sure:
1. the *HAND written* label on CD I used to load
identified it as
DEBIAN 6.0.3 with GNOME desktop
2. initial attempt to use gnome-ppp failed
3. I then did
man gnome-ppp
4. It said there was an option for
gnome-ppp --version
4A. it yielded NO version information, but brought up
attempt to dial
screen which failed if not super user
How do I use gnome-ppp as normal [NOT super] user?
How do I create clickable icon to dial into my ISP as a
'normal' user?
After those questions are answered, how do I download and
install SeaMonkey such that clicking an ICON will dial into
my ISP and launch SeaMonkey -ICEweasel is FROZEN out as
acceptable method.
NOTE BENE: WEB references needed as Linux not working too
well now ;/
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Re: kppp dialing process hang up on 'starting pppd'. (was: bug in ppp - grave)
Hi Scott, of course, this shall not change to my problem. As you suggest, I will change from umtsmon to kppp and see, if this will work with latest ppp. If it doesn't, I will be pleased to help as well as I can. And sorry for my statements, I just wanted to explain, why I stated ppp to be buggy. Hope, the operators problem will be soon to be fixed. Best regards Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201109271113.07510.hans.ullr...@loop.de
Re: kppp dialing process hang up on 'starting pppd'. (was: bug in ppp - grave)
On 27/09/11 04:39, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > Hi Scott, > > you are right, I mentioned umtsmon. I read the log. Even if I hadn't had problems in the past - which were solved by abandoning UMTSmon, I'd still call UMTSmon the problem *based* on the errors in your log. > But the problem was not beeing umtsmon > updated, but ppp updated. Umtsmon is just a GUI to call ppp with additional > parameters, nothing else. Well - that's your opinion (and surely you are entitled to it) :-) It's why I/we stopped using UMTSmon and moved to Kppp. Works for us as *we* want the fixes from the updated pppd. I gave you the means to test your assumptions about UMTSmon and pppd (remove UMTSmon from the dialup process, and if you can connect the problem cannot be pppd). > > So the problem was IMO in ppp, as the only thing, which was changed, was the > ppp binary, NOT umtsmon. I tried to explain that to the maintainers, but they > seemed not to understand. > > So, kppp is just another GUI for ppp, which is just doing the same - calling > ppp with additional options. BTW, I tried several other GUIs for ppp (also > the > one from Vodafone, the result was NONE of them worked with ppp from testing > or > unstable. Reverting back to the old one, ALL of them worked. > > So IMO it is a fault and a bug in ppp, nothing else. But I do not want to > quarrel, so I found my solution in using the old stuff and setting it to hold. > > Some day another people may havbe the same problem with ppp and may explain > better than me. No problem, I can wait. > > Maybe you now understand, why I pointed to ppp itself. I understand your reasoning (I believe it's flawed) - meanwhile the rest of the world, including users of the identical modem, are connecting without problem. As 3G/UMTS is the only means of internet I have I basically have no choice but to disagree (mine works, everyone I know has no problems etc). > > Best regards > > Hans > > > Hope you solve your problems - though I suspect they won't solve themselves. Perhaps now we can return the thread to the original poster. Cheers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e811ee9.8060...@gmail.com
Re: kppp dialing process hang up on 'starting pppd'. (was: bug in ppp - grave)
Hi Scott, you are right, I mentioned umtsmon. But the problem was not beeing umtsmon updated, but ppp updated. Umtsmon is just a GUI to call ppp with additional parameters, nothing else. So the problem was IMO in ppp, as the only thing, which was changed, was the ppp binary, NOT umtsmon. I tried to explain that to the maintainers, but they seemed not to understand. So, kppp is just another GUI for ppp, which is just doing the same - calling ppp with additional options. BTW, I tried several other GUIs for ppp (also the one from Vodafone, the result was NONE of them worked with ppp from testing or unstable. Reverting back to the old one, ALL of them worked. So IMO it is a fault and a bug in ppp, nothing else. But I do not want to quarrel, so I found my solution in using the old stuff and setting it to hold. Some day another people may havbe the same problem with ppp and may explain better than me. No problem, I can wait. Maybe you now understand, why I pointed to ppp itself. Best regards Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201109262039.40636.hans.ullr...@loop.de
Re: kppp dialing process hang up on 'starting pppd'. (was: bug in ppp - grave)
On 25/09/11 17:58, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > Hi Scott, this is, what I sent to the maintainer of the package and sent to > buglist. The answer was: There is no bug in it. So, why do older versions > work > and the other (after his massive changes no more?) > Hi Hans - you don't seem to be the original poster. *I just asked for a link to the bugreport*.. Your log indicates a problem with *UMTSmon* - not *ppp(d)*. The OP is posting about a problem with Kppp - (your logs don't indicate problem with Kppp *either*.) Please start a new thread if you'd like to solve your, unrelated, problem. Suggestions below (Hans):- Network manager seems to interfere with other programs like Kppp and UMTSmon broken... try not to install it when you plan on using another management tool. To rule out UMTSmon as the problem try:- # echo "echo AT+CPIN=3521^M^M > /dev/ttyUSB0 # pppd ttyUSB0 460800 nodetach defaultroute noipdefault noauth lock usepeerdns debug debug connect 'chat "" "at" "" "at" "OK" "at&f" "OK" "atz" "OK" "at+cgdcont=1,'IP','gint.b-online.gr'" OK "atdt*99#" CONNECT' user o2 password password NOTES: change passord to o2 *if* password fails. You were running:- idle 7200 noauth asyncmap 0 updetach dump debug debug debug 460800 lock crtscts modem /dev/ttyUSB0 noipx defaultroute replacedefaultroute usepeerdns user o2 password o2 I suspect that if you'd upgraded UMTSmon when you upgraded pppd you would't have had the problem - even though your UMTSmon settings seem non-optimal. If UMTSmon was a Debian package this might not have happened - if you are also running networkmanager that's another possible conflict. > > Hans-J. Ullrich > > Cheers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e7fe428.8000...@gmail.com
Woody ... Squeeze, PPP works over a null modem; was Re (2): How to use serial ports?
From: peasth...@shaw.ca Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 09:57:26 -0800 > May 13 08:56:14 dalton pppd[2046]: but I couldn't find any suitable secret > (password) for it to use to do so. > > Previously, PPP would refer to /etc/passwd but seems to have forgotten that. In setting up the fresh machine I put this in /etc/ppp/pap-secrets. * dalton1 "" * Should have revised to this when the previous machine was replaced. * dalton "" * All the documentation in the world can't replace human memory. So Tapio, a null modem still works. Start with the simplest configuration and check all the details. Then work your way up to your objective. Regards, ... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 450 2132. bcc: peasthope at shaw.ca Shop pages http://carnot.yi.org/ accessible as long as the old drives survive. Personal pages http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171057005.44328.43208@cantor.invalid
Re: latest ppp does not connect
Hello, Hans-J. Ullrich a écrit : > > I am getting problems with the latest version of running ppp from squeeze. As > the version before was running well, I get no success in a connectio with the > latest version. I am using umtsmon which is calling ppp with some switches, > but it is the same, if I use pon, kppp, kde-ppp or similar - the latest ppp- > version does not work. It could be helpful that you provide some pppd logs, preferably with the 'debug' option. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3c1806.6010...@plouf.fr.eu.org
latest ppp does not connect
Hi all, I am getting problems with the latest version of running ppp from squeeze. As the version before was running well, I get no success in a connectio with the latest version. I am using umtsmon which is calling ppp with some switches, but it is the same, if I use pon, kppp, kde-ppp or similar - the latest ppp- version does not work. Maybe someone can help and read the code/changes between the two versions. Here is the long description with verbose output of each version: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=610025 At the moment I solved it for myself by setting ppp on hold. Needed data: Computer: EEEPC with debian/squeeze (32-bit) Modem: Huawei E620 Provider: O2 Hope this helps. Kind regards Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101221729.32513.hans.ullr...@loop.de
balancing 2 ppp-ifs
Good day. How I can balance 2 ppp connections the easiest way? Or divide them by protocol usage like 80s go to ppp0 and 21 - to ppp1? Thank You for Your time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cb354b0.cd780e0a.277e.7...@mx.google.com
Re: converting home network to IPv6; ppp, IPv6, dsnmasq and iptables
On 06/06/10 05:01 AM, Antonio Perez wrote: > H.S. wrote: > > You don't need to assign different blocks to each NIC, all your network > needs only one block of addresses. It is, however, a good idea, security > wise, to keep them apart. hmmm. > >> So, I had to assign address from HEX2:bb00::/56 range. One network was >> eth1 (HEX2:bb00::) and another was eth0 (HEX2:bb01::). Basically, the >> two NICs in the same machine need to be on different IPv6 networks ... >> same as in IPv4 (Doh!). > > Not really. > Okay. Clearly, I am yet to understand this IPv6 stuff better. >> Now, do the above observations mean I am now correctly using my IPv6 >> networking and ppp connection given by my ISP? Also, what is the >> HEX2::/64 address given to me by my ISP for? > > The only thing which is really missing in your setup is firewall. Iptables > has a dual personality (reflecting the dual stack devices), there is the > Also be sure to set a firewall for IPv6, remember that IPv6 is independent > of IPv4 and allows external computers to connect to your systems, even > behind the "Debian router": > http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ip6tables-ipv6-firewall-for-linux/ > http://www.exp-networks.be/blog/ipv6-firewall/ > http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Is_your_firewall_IPv6_aware > > This programs for firewall setting in debian may be of help: > http://wiki.debian.org/Firewalls > Shorewall seems to be a good choice. Thanks for all these pointers. I need to get my fundamentals regarding IPv6 straight. I was also ready looking around for an IPv6 firewall. For my IPv4 setting, I use my own custom written iptables script. For IPv6, I will start with Shorewall, based on your suggestion. Thanks, again. Regards. -- Please reply to this list only. I read this list on its corresponding newsgroup on gmane.org. Replies sent to my email address are just filtered to a folder in my mailbox and get periodically deleted without ever having been read. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hugcn1$fd...@dough.gmane.org
Re: converting home network to IPv6; ppp, IPv6, dsnmasq and iptables
H.S. wrote:
> Here are the correct settings that seem to work:
>
> 1)
> Addresses given by my ISP:
> HEX1:aa00::/64
> HEX2:bb00::/56 <-- this is the one used below
Excellent.
> 2) /etc/network/interfaces file
> #for IPv6 config (note "bb01"). Goes to LAN switch
> iface eth0 inet6 static
> address HEX2:bb01::01
> netmask 64
> network HEX2:bb01::
> #for IPv6 config (note "bb00"). Goes to ADSL modem
> iface eth1 inet6 static
> address HEX2:bb00::01
> netmask 64
> network HEX2:bb00::
You don't need to assign different blocks to each NIC, all your network
needs only one block of addresses. It is, however, a good idea, security
wise, to keep them apart.
> 3) I also have the "+ipv6" option in my dsl-provider file to be used when
> I make an ADSL connection.
> 4)
> And added the route:
> $> sudo route --inet6 add default dev ppp0
That seems reasonable.
> Further, in my /etc/radvd.conf on this router machine, I have the
> following(recall that eth0 is connected to a switch on the LAN):
>> cat /etc/radvd.conf
> interface eth0
> {
> AdvSendAdvert on;
> AdvLinkMTU 1280;
> MaxRtrAdvInterval 300;
> MinRtrAdvInterval 30;
> prefix HEX2:bb01::/64 # <-- note this address and ref. eth0
> {
> AdvOnLink on;
> AdvAutonomous on;
> };
> };
This seems ok as well.
> Now another machine on my LAN is able to get an IPv6 address:
> {LAN machine}$> /sbin/ifconfig eth0 | grep inet6
> $> /sbin/ifconfig eth0 | grep inet6
> inet6 addr: HEX2:bb01:HEXblah:/64 Scope:Global
> inet6 addr: fe80::204:75ff:fe8a:d6df/64 Scope:Link
Excellent.
> So, I had to assign address from HEX2:bb00::/56 range. One network was
> eth1 (HEX2:bb00::) and another was eth0 (HEX2:bb01::). Basically, the
> two NICs in the same machine need to be on different IPv6 networks ...
> same as in IPv4 (Doh!).
Not really.
> Now, do the above observations mean I am now correctly using my IPv6
> networking and ppp connection given by my ISP? Also, what is the
> HEX2::/64 address given to me by my ISP for?
The only thing which is really missing in your setup is firewall. Iptables
has a dual personality (reflecting the dual stack devices), there is the
normal iptables and the ip6tables for IPV6. The setup you are using does
allow you to connect to the IPV6 network out there, but also allows
connections from "out there" to your computers.
Read: http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/42436
there is a free "certification" for IPV6, which might help to understand
the basics:
http://ipv6.he.net/
http://ipv6.he.net/certification/
Also be sure to set a firewall for IPv6, remember that IPv6 is independent
of IPv4 and allows external computers to connect to your systems, even
behind the "Debian router":
http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ip6tables-ipv6-firewall-for-linux/
http://www.exp-networks.be/blog/ipv6-firewall/
http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Is_your_firewall_IPv6_aware
This programs for firewall setting in debian may be of help:
http://wiki.debian.org/Firewalls
Shorewall seems to be a good choice.
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Re: converting home network to IPv6; ppp, IPv6, dsnmasq and iptables
Here are the correct settings that seem to work:
1)
Addresses given by my ISP:
HEX1:aa00::/64
HEX2:bb00::/56 <-- this is the one used below
2) /etc/network/interfaces file
#for IPv6 config (note "bb01"). Goes to LAN switch
iface eth0 inet6 static
address HEX2:bb01::01
netmask 64
network HEX2:bb01::
#for IPv6 config (note "bb00"). Goes to ADSL modem
iface eth1 inet6 static
address HEX2:bb00::01
netmask 64
network HEX2:bb00::
3)
I also have the "+ipv6" option in my dsl-provider file to be used when I
make an ADSL connection.
4)
And added the route:
$> sudo route --inet6 add default dev ppp0
Further, in my /etc/radvd.conf on this router machine, I have the
following(recall that eth0 is connected to a switch on the LAN):
> cat /etc/radvd.conf
interface eth0
{
AdvSendAdvert on;
AdvLinkMTU 1280;
MaxRtrAdvInterval 300;
MinRtrAdvInterval 30;
prefix HEX2:bb01::/64 # <-- note this address and ref. eth0
{
AdvOnLink on;
AdvAutonomous on;
};
};
Now another machine on my LAN is able to get an IPv6 address:
{LAN machine}$> /sbin/ifconfig eth0 | grep inet6
$> /sbin/ifconfig eth0 | grep inet6
inet6 addr: HEX2:bb01:HEXblah:/64 Scope:Global
inet6 addr: fe80::204:75ff:fe8a:d6df/64 Scope:Link
So, I had to assign address from HEX2:bb00::/56 range. One network was
eth1 (HEX2:bb00::) and another was eth0 (HEX2:bb01::). Basically, the
two NICs in the same machine need to be on different IPv6 networks ...
same as in IPv4 (Doh!).
Now, do the above observations mean I am now correctly using my IPv6
networking and ppp connection given by my ISP? Also, what is the
HEX2::/64 address given to me by my ISP for?
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Re: converting home network to IPv6; ppp, IPv6, dsnmasq and iptables
On 05/06/10 01:56 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > H.S. put forth on 6/4/2010 11:06 PM: > >> Can somebody help in this problem? > > Yes, I can. Disable dhcp6. You've already bound a static IPv6 address to > eth1 but you didn't configure a gateway address. Configure a correct IPv6 > gateway address for eth1. This should have been provided by your ISP along > with the static IPv6 addresses. If not, ask them for it. Apparently, no gateway is being given out. But I am still trying to clear that up. However ... > > Once you have done these things and restarted your interfaces, test IPv6 > functionality from the firewall host itself, using ping, tracert, etc. Don't > bother testing IPv6 routing or NAT until you've verified you can ping a remote > internet host over IPv6 directly from eth1. After you've confirmed that you > can tackle LAN host IPv6 issues, if any exist. ... I can ping now: > ping6 ipv6.google.com PING ipv6.google.com(iad04s01-in-x63.1e100.net) 56 data bytes 64 bytes from iad04s01-in-x63.1e100.net: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=75.8 ms 64 bytes from iad04s01-in-x63.1e100.net: icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=74.8 ms ^C --- ipv6.google.com ping statistics --- 2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 1000ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 74.870/75.380/75.890/0.510 ms traceroute6 also work via all the IPv6 intermediate addresses. What I have now is the following: 1) Addresses given by my ISP: HEX1::/64 HEX2::/56 2) #for IPv6 config iface eth0 inet6 static address HEX1::01 netmask 64 network HEX1:: #for IPv6 config <--- this might be wrong though iface eth1 inet6 static address HEX2::01 netmask 64 network HEX2:: 3) I also have the "+ipv6" option in my dsl-provider file to be used when I make an ADSL connection. 4) And added the route: $> sudo route --inet6 add default dev ppp0 So, looks like IPv6 is working on my router machine, and this by assigning a fixed IPv6 address to my eth1 (from HEX1::64) and by assigning HEX2::64 to eth0 (that connects to my LAN switch). But I cannot yet ping6 from a LAN host. Another question. I think I am not understanding the assignment of IPv6 subnets and addresses here. As in IPv4 we cannot have multiple nics in a computer on the same network, is this the same in IPv6 as well? Thanks. -- Please reply to this list only. I read this list on its corresponding newsgroup on gmane.org. Replies sent to my email address are just filtered to a folder in my mailbox and get periodically deleted without ever having been read. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hufc2r$e7...@dough.gmane.org
Re: converting home network to IPv6; ppp, IPv6, dsnmasq and iptables
On 05/06/10 01:56 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > H.S. put forth on 6/4/2010 11:06 PM: > > >> Also, I am supposed to dial the ppp connection and obtain an IPv6 >> address from my ISP (as opposed to using a static one). > > If this is truly the case, why did your ISP give you static IPv6 addresses? I > believe you misunderstand the situation. Yes, quite likely I am not understanding this properly. So, I get that I have a fixed IP range in IPv6. > >> Can somebody help in this problem? > > Yes, I can. Disable dhcp6. You've already bound a static IPv6 address to > eth1 but you didn't configure a gateway address. Configure a correct IPv6 > gateway address for eth1. This should have been provided by your ISP along > with the static IPv6 addresses. If not, ask them for it. That is what I had originally in mind. But I have read in some forums that with my ISP pppoe connection obtains an IPv6 address. Let me call up my ISP and clarify this. I will report back how it all goes. > > Once you have done these things and restarted your interfaces, test IPv6 > functionality from the firewall host itself, using ping, tracert, etc. Don't > bother testing IPv6 routing or NAT until you've verified you can ping a remote > internet host over IPv6 directly from eth1. After you've confirmed that you > can tackle LAN host IPv6 issues, if any exist. > Okay. Thanks. -- Please reply to this list only. I read this list on its corresponding newsgroup on gmane.org. Replies sent to my email address are just filtered to a folder in my mailbox and get periodically deleted without ever having been read. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hudmh5$ar...@dough.gmane.org
Re: converting home network to IPv6; ppp, IPv6, dsnmasq and iptables
H.S. put forth on 6/4/2010 11:06 PM: > Also, I am supposed to dial the ppp connection and obtain an IPv6 > address from my ISP (as opposed to using a static one). If this is truly the case, why did your ISP give you static IPv6 addresses? I believe you misunderstand the situation. > Can somebody help in this problem? Yes, I can. Disable dhcp6. You've already bound a static IPv6 address to eth1 but you didn't configure a gateway address. Configure a correct IPv6 gateway address for eth1. This should have been provided by your ISP along with the static IPv6 addresses. If not, ask them for it. Once you have done these things and restarted your interfaces, test IPv6 functionality from the firewall host itself, using ping, tracert, etc. Don't bother testing IPv6 routing or NAT until you've verified you can ping a remote internet host over IPv6 directly from eth1. After you've confirmed that you can tackle LAN host IPv6 issues, if any exist. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c09e700.7020...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: converting home network to IPv6; ppp, IPv6, dsnmasq and iptables
On 02/06/10 02:20 PM, H.S. wrote:
>
> I have an ADSL connection for my home network. The ADSL modem is
> connected to an old box running Debian Testing which acts as a router
> and firewall.
>
> My ISP has given me an IPv6 address to try out. I have the username and
> password. Basically, I now need to convert my ppp connection to deal
> with IPv6 addresses and perhaps make changes to my iptables firewall and
> dnsmasq. The latter (dnsmasq) can wait, however.
,---.
ppp0 eth1 eth0---LAN Switch---other computers
`---'
|-Debian router-|
I have been given a username and two IPv6 network ranges:
1234:5678:abcd:efgh::/56
1234:5678:pqrs:tuvw::/64
I have done the following steps:
1. Used the new username and password for in my "dsl-provider" file for
pppoeconf (for pon and off). I have also added the ivp6 option in the
file (a line with "+ipv6").
2. Given static IPv6 address to eth0 and eth1:
#for IPv6 config
iface eth0 inet6 static
address 1234:5678:pqrs:tuvn::01
netmask 64
network 1234:5678:pqrs:tuvn::
#for IPv6 config
iface eth1 inet6 static
address 1234:5678:pqrs:tuvm::01
netmask 64
network 1234:5678:pqrs:tuvm::
3. Installed wide-dhcpv6-client and have the following in
/etc/wide-dhcpv6/dhcp6c.conf
#--
interface ppp0 {
request domain-name-servers;
request domain-name;
send ia-pd 0;
script "/etc/wide-dhcpv6/dhcp6c-script";
};
id-assoc pd {
prefix-interface eth1 {
sla-id 0;
sla-len 4;
};
};
#--
4. Inserted these rules as first rules in my firewall script (so that
LAN still functions on IPv4)
#allow all IPv6 traffic
$IPTABLES -A INPUT -i $EXTIF -p ipv6 -j ACCEPT
$IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -o $EXTIF -p ipv6 -j ACCEPT
$IPTABLES -A FORWARD -j ACCEPT
... and enabled forwarding:
# echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/forwarding
5. Finally, added the default route for IPv6:
#> sudo route --inet6 add default dev ppp0
Now, I am able to establish a ppp connection, ppp0 gets formed but does
not get an IPv6 address. IPv4 address is obtained and work alright.
Anybody know what I am missing here? I have tried restarting various
services (dhcp6, networking, ppp, etc.). eth0 and eth1 get ipv4 and ipv6
addresses, but ppp0 remains on ipv4.
I am also not sure if the static IPv6 addresses given to eth0 and eth1
are correct.
Also, I am supposed to dial the ppp connection and obtain an IPv6
address from my ISP (as opposed to using a static one).
Can somebody help in this problem?
Thanks.
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converting home network to IPv6; ppp, IPv6, dsnmasq and iptables
I have an ADSL connection for my home network. The ADSL modem is connected to an old box running Debian Testing which acts as a router and firewall. My ISP has given me an IPv6 address to try out. I have the username and password. Basically, I now need to convert my ppp connection to deal with IPv6 addresses and perhaps make changes to my iptables firewall and dnsmasq. The latter (dnsmasq) can wait, however. I have been reading stuff online on how to go about doing this. Various testing confirms that Debian is ready for IPv6. For the ppp connection, I need to make a few changes in ppp config and install a DHCP client, wide-dhcpv6-client, and I should be more or less good to go. Got the details from this document: www.magyartelekom.com/static/sw/download/IPv6_user_guide4_eng.pdf [PDF] Before I go about trying this, I just wanted to know somebody here has accomplished this yet successfully and if there are any pitfalls to look out for. I also want to make sure that my iptables firewall continues to work, perhaps with some changes if necessary. Any other precautions and advice in this endeavor are greatly appreciated. Thanks. -- Please reply to this list only. I read this list on its corresponding newsgroup on gmane.org. Replies sent to my email address are just filtered to a folder in my mailbox and get periodically deleted without ever having been read. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hu67e7$gq...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Impossible to establish ppp-connection through cellar samsung.
green wrote: Sthu Deus wrote at 2010-04-23 06:47 -0500: I have troubles with connecting cellar phone Samsung C3010 to Debian 5 desktop. I have put into chatscript the correct for the manufacturer initialization line, but it still does not work. I can't help you with chatscripts, but I have found that I often have to dial #777 to make USB cell/3g modems work. Also, I have had much more luck with wvdial (which calls pppd) than just ppp. I hope you are able to find a solution. I'd be interested in whether you got that thing to work the way you want to. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hqvghl$bk...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Impossible to establish ppp-connection through cellar samsung.
Sthu Deus wrote at 2010-04-23 06:47 -0500: > I have troubles with connecting cellar phone Samsung C3010 to Debian 5 > desktop. > I have put into chatscript the correct for the manufacturer initialization > line, but it still does not work. I can't help you with chatscripts, but I have found that I often have to dial #777 to make USB cell/3g modems work. Also, I have had much more luck with wvdial (which calls pppd) than just ppp. I hope you are able to find a solution. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Impossible to establish ppp-connection through cellar samsung.
Good day. I have troubles with connecting cellar phone Samsung C3010 to Debian 5 desktop. I have put into chatscript the correct for the manufacturer initialization line, but it still does not work. In chatcript I have: ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' ABORT VOICE ABORT 'NO DIALTONE' ABORT 'NO DIAL TONE' ABORT 'NO ANSWER' ABORT DELAYED # modeminit '' '+CGDCONT=1,"IP","internet.isp.com"' # ispnumber OK-AT-OK "ATDT*99***1#" # ispconnect CONNECT \d\c The corresponding lines in /var/log/messages are: Apr 23 18:40:33 localhost pppd[3916]: pppd 2.4.4 started by user, uid 1103 Apr 23 18:40:34 localhost chat[3925]: abort on (BUSY) Apr 23 18:40:34 localhost chat[3925]: abort on (NO CARRIER) Apr 23 18:40:34 localhost chat[3925]: abort on (VOICE) Apr 23 18:40:34 localhost chat[3925]: abort on (NO DIALTONE) Apr 23 18:40:34 localhost chat[3925]: abort on (NO DIAL TONE) Apr 23 18:40:34 localhost chat[3925]: abort on (NO ANSWER) Apr 23 18:40:34 localhost chat[3925]: abort on (DELAYED) Apr 23 18:40:34 localhost chat[3925]: send (+CGDCONT=1,"IP","internet.isp.com"^M) Apr 23 18:40:35 localhost chat[3925]: expect (OK) Apr 23 18:40:35 localhost chat[3925]: +CGDCONT=1,"IP"^...@^@^...@+nnn^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@060^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@ Apr 23 18:40:35 localhost chat[3925]: ^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@^@ NNN - is a celler number. If You have any ideas/experience how to make it working, please share Your knowledge with me / us all. Thanks for Your time. PS Please, reply to the list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bd1d4f9.101abc0a.75e9.2...@mx.google.com
Re: Kernel updating (was: Keyboard gets stuck when closing PPP)
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 14:32:14 -0400 (EDT), Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > When I close a PPP connection with `C-c', the keyboard gets stuck and I have > to > reboot the system. The problem is reported here: > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=508589 > > In the hope of fixing it by updating the kernel, I want to install a freshly > new one from the backport repositories. Can anyone suggest the exact package > name? I have Lenny on an old Pentium III. > > Thanks for any help > Rodolfo I would suggest linux-image-2.6.32-bpo.3-686 That appears to be the closest to what is in Squeeze right now. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/970515686.2201551270842290414.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Kernel updating (was: Keyboard gets stuck when closing PPP)
When I close a PPP connection with `C-c', the keyboard gets stuck and I have to reboot the system. The problem is reported here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=508589 In the hope of fixing it by updating the kernel, I want to install a freshly new one from the backport repositories. Can anyone suggest the exact package name? I have Lenny on an old Pentium III. Thanks for any help Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/878w8wfpe9@gmail.com
Re: Keyboard gets stuck when closing PPP
On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 12:14:47PM +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > ... > > phone (motorola e815) through a usb cable. It's not 100% repeatable. > > I suspect something in the close routine is overwriting part of the > > keyboard driver, but only some times. BTW, this is on a Dell 8600, > > with the nvidia-legacy driver. > > > Maybe installing a new version of the kernel would fix it? Haven't you tried, > A.? Maybe. But this is my primary machine and I want to keep it stable. I also don't have that much of a need any more to use the usb phone/modem. If that changes, I might try a newer kernel. In fact I might try a backported kernel on another machine. I'll report back when I do. A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100408205724.ga6...@shibaya.lonestar.org
Re: Keyboard gets stuck when closing PPP
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 09:07:14PM +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote: >> The problem is reported here: >> >> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=508589 >> >> Does anyone know if it has been fixed, and how? I don't have the >> possibility of installing Sid. "A. F. Cano" writes: > Don't know if it's been fixed. Most likely not in lenny and the > standard kernels. I encounter this problem much too often and each time > it requires a hard reboot. Strangely, the mouse still works so I can > log out of kde, but then the shutdown process hangs until I hit > CTRL-ALT-DEL. Then it continues, but the laptop doesn't shut down all > the way. I have to hold the power button for 10 seconds and then it > does shut down. This is a very low level issue. > > I don't use kppp. This happens with regular pon/poff. I suspect > it's related to the cdc_acm driver which is the one being used by my > phone (motorola e815) through a usb cable. It's not 100% repeatable. > I suspect something in the close routine is overwriting part of the > keyboard driver, but only some times. BTW, this is on a Dell 8600, > with the nvidia-legacy driver. Maybe installing a new version of the kernel would fix it? Haven't you tried, A.? Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8739z6b649@gmail.com
Re: Keyboard gets stuck when closing PPP
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 09:07:14PM +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote: >> The problem is reported here: >> >> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=508589 >> >> Does anyone know if it has been fixed, and how? I don't have the >> possibility of installing Sid. "A. F. Cano" writes: > Don't know if it's been fixed. Most likely not in lenny and the > standard kernels. I encounter this problem much too often and each time > it requires a hard reboot. Strangely, the mouse still works so I can > log out of kde, but then the shutdown process hangs until I hit > CTRL-ALT-DEL. Then it continues, but the laptop doesn't shut down all > the way. I have to hold the power button for 10 seconds and then it > does shut down. This is a very low level issue. > > I don't use kppp. This happens with regular pon/poff. I suspect > it's related to the cdc_acm driver which is the one being used by my > phone (motorola e815) through a usb cable. It's not 100% repeatable. > I suspect something in the close routine is overwriting part of the > keyboard driver, but only some times. BTW, this is on a Dell 8600, > with the nvidia-legacy driver. Maybe installing a new version of the kernel would fix it? Haven't you tried, A.? Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87fx36gsiw@gmail.com
Re: Keyboard gets stuck when closing PPP (was: Problems when logging out Gnome)
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 09:07:14PM +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Rodolfo Medina writes: > > > Lenny installed on my old Pentium III often gets stuck when logging out > > Gnome, either via the panel menu or with `Ctrl-Alt-Backspace'. > > > > Does anyone have any direct experience of the same problem or can suggest > > what the cause may ever be and how to work it out? > > > The problem is reported here: > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=508589 > > Does anyone know if it has been fixed, and how? I don't have the possibility > of installing Sid. Don't know if it's been fixed. Most likely not in lenny and the standard kernels. I encounter this problem much too often and each time it requires a hard reboot. Strangely, the mouse still works so I can log out of kde, but then the shutdown process hangs until I hit CTRL-ALT-DEL. Then it continues, but the laptop doesn't shut down all the way. I have to hold the power button for 10 seconds and then it does shut down. This is a very low level issue. I don't use kppp. This happens with regular pon/poff. I suspect it's related to the cdc_acm driver which is the one being used by my phone (motorola e815) through a usb cable. It's not 100% repeatable. I suspect something in the close routine is overwriting part of the keyboard driver, but only some times. BTW, this is on a Dell 8600, with the nvidia-legacy driver. > Thanks for any help > Rodolfo A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100407210805.ga8...@shibaya.lonestar.org
Keyboard gets stuck when closing PPP (was: Problems when logging out Gnome)
Rodolfo Medina writes: > Lenny installed on my old Pentium III often gets stuck when logging out > Gnome, either via the panel menu or with `Ctrl-Alt-Backspace'. > > Does anyone have any direct experience of the same problem or can suggest > what the cause may ever be and how to work it out? The problem is reported here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=508589 Does anyone know if it has been fixed, and how? I don't have the possibility of installing Sid. Thanks for any help Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87tyrn3wv1@gmail.com
Re: PPP MTU on an Ethernet link.
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:32 AM, wrote: > Observed Phenomenon [snip] > Questions > Can anyone explain why the dhcp negotiation > in Lenny results in MTU = 576? Is there any ask the dhcp server, as somebody suggested it might have something to do with pmtu > practical way to get 1500? > > Thanks, ... Peter E. > > > > > > -- > Google pathology workshop. > In ETHNO, click here -> Desktops.OpenDoc "http://carnot.yi.org";. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171056445.55354.417...@heaviside.invalid > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/836a6dcf1003300013t1345d036n968759e273068...@mail.gmail.com
Re: PPP MTU on an Ethernet link.
On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 13:32 -0700, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: > Observed Phenomenon > The interface from a Squeeze Linux router to > an ISP cable modem, configured with this line > in /etc/network/interfaces, has MTU = 1500. > iface eth0 inet dhcp > Good; just as expected. > > For Lenny, the same /etc/network/interfaces > yields MTU = 576. Very odd. This value > should exist for a ppp link and not for an > eth link. > > If a D-Link DI-614+ is inserted between Lenny > and the cable modem, then MTU = 1500. > > Background Factors > I prefer to keep Lenny on the machine until > Squeeze becomes more reliable. Configuration > will be more difficult if the D-Link router > remains permanently. > > Failed Solution > According to > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch05.en.html#_setting_mtu > I adjusted /etc/network/interfaces to this. > iface eth0 inet dhcp > hostname "joule" > pre-up /sbin/ifconfig $IFACE mtu 1500 IIRC, you should be able to tweak the MTU after the link comes up. Perhaps trying 'post-up' instead. > > Still the wrong MTU is set. > pe...@joule:~$ ip link show eth0 > 3: eth0: mtu 576 qdisc pfifo_fast state > UNKNOW > N qlen 1000 > link/ether 00:50:ba:52:79:1c brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff > > Questions > Can anyone explain why the dhcp negotiation > in Lenny results in MTU = 576? It may be a path MTU discovery. -- Matt Zagrabelny - mzagr...@d.umn.edu - (218) 726 8844 University of Minnesota Duluth Information Technology Systems & Services PGP key 4096R/42A00942 2009-12-16 Fingerprint: 5814 2CCE 2383 2991 83FF C899 07E2 BFA8 42A0 0942 He is not a fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. -Jim Elliot signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
PPP MTU on an Ethernet link.
Observed Phenomenon The interface from a Squeeze Linux router to an ISP cable modem, configured with this line in /etc/network/interfaces, has MTU = 1500. iface eth0 inet dhcp Good; just as expected. For Lenny, the same /etc/network/interfaces yields MTU = 576. Very odd. This value should exist for a ppp link and not for an eth link. If a D-Link DI-614+ is inserted between Lenny and the cable modem, then MTU = 1500. Background Factors I prefer to keep Lenny on the machine until Squeeze becomes more reliable. Configuration will be more difficult if the D-Link router remains permanently. Failed Solution According to http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch05.en.html#_setting_mtu I adjusted /etc/network/interfaces to this. iface eth0 inet dhcp hostname "joule" pre-up /sbin/ifconfig $IFACE mtu 1500 Still the wrong MTU is set. pe...@joule:~$ ip link show eth0 3: eth0: mtu 576 qdisc pfifo_fast state UNKNOW N qlen 1000 link/ether 00:50:ba:52:79:1c brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff Questions Can anyone explain why the dhcp negotiation in Lenny results in MTU = 576? Is there any practical way to get 1500? Thanks, ... Peter E. -- Google pathology workshop. In ETHNO, click here -> Desktops.OpenDoc "http://carnot.yi.org";. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171056445.55354.417...@heaviside.invalid
Re: gnome-ppp error is now a kernel failure?
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 15:39:33 -0500, twixt wrote: > Follow up: When the wvdial error occurs, a popup window tells me the > kernel failed. No need to open a new thread. You can add more information on the original one, unless you change the whole topic :-) (...) > Mar 7 06:38:24 localhost pppd[31448]: Can't open options file > /etc/ppp/peers/wvdial: Permission denied Just for testing purposes, try to run "wvdial" or "gnome-ppp" as root. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.03.08.20.05...@gmail.com
gnome-ppp error is now a kernel failure?
Follow up: When the wvdial error occurs, a popup window tells me the kernel failed. I should mention that I installed Debian 5.03 yesterday from 5 DVDs. I intend to report this to kerneloops.org, but without a Net connection, everything gets relayed through my Windows machine. Attached is what was added to /var/log/syslog after I ran wvdial. Apparently wvdial was not able to access the file /etc/ppp/peers/wvdial, despite my attempts to give it access with sudo chmod. I used sudo chmod to change /etc, /etc/ppp, and then /etc/ppp/peers, but from within the /etc/ppp directory I am unable to cd to peers. The file /etc/ppp/peers/wvdial did contain the noauth option, whichdoes conflict with the auth option in /etc/ppp/options, but I changed them both to auth, then I changed them both to noauth, and I still get the same error code 2. Mar 7 06:38:24 localhost pppd[31448]: Can't open options file /etc/ppp/peers/wvdial: Permission denied Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698228] [ cut here ] Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698235] WARNING: at drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c:320 serial_write_room+0x4 b/0x60 [usbserial]() Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698237] Modules linked in: nls_utf8 nls_cp437 vfat fat nls_base ppdev lp ipv6 cpufreq_userspace cpufreq_conservative cpufreq_powersave cpufreq_ondemand cpufreq_stats freq_table ext2 sbp2 loop ide _cd_mod cdrom usb_storage pl2303 usbserial snd_hda_intel snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_pcm parport_pc parport floppy s nd_seq_dummy snd_seq_oss serio_raw snd_seq_midi snd_rawmidi pcspkr psmouse snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq jmicron k8temp s nd_timer snd_seq_device ohci1394 ieee1394 snd ahci soundcore snd_page_alloc forcedeth ehci_hcd amd74xx ohci_hcd button i2c_nforce2 i2c_core evdev ext3 jbd mbcache dm_mirror dm_log dm_snapshot dm_mod sd_mod thermal processor fan thermal_ sys ide_pci_generic ide_core ata_generic sata_nv libata scsi_mod dock Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698282] Pid: 10, comm: events/1 Tainted: GW 2.6.26-2-amd64 #1 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698285] Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698285] Call Trace: Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698295] [] warn_on_slowpath+0x51/0x7a Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698301] [] check_preempt_wakeup+0xc4/0xf0 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698305] [] try_to_wake_up+0x118/0x129 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698312] [] __wake_up_common+0x41/0x74 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698317] [] getnstimeofday+0x39/0x98 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698321] [] __next_cpu+0x19/0x26 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698323] [] find_busiest_group+0x254/0x6dc Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698329] [] :usbserial:serial_write_room+0x4b/0x60 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698333] [] opost+0x12/0x1b7 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698337] [] n_tty_receive_buf+0x28f/0xd88 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698345] [] __switch_to+0x96/0x35e Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698350] [] hrtick_set+0x88/0xf7 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698357] [] flush_to_ldisc+0xf1/0x190 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698362] [] flush_to_ldisc+0x0/0x190 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698367] [] run_workqueue+0x82/0x111 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698371] [] worker_thread+0xd5/0xe0 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698375] [] autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x2e Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698380] [] worker_thread+0x0/0xe0 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698383] [] kthread+0x47/0x74 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698386] [] schedule_tail+0x27/0x5c Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698389] [] child_rip+0xa/0x12 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698398] [] kthread+0x0/0x74 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698401] [] child_rip+0x0/0x12 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698404] Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698406] ---[ end trace 386cfb28979fc126 ]--- Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698411] [ cut here ] Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698413] WARNING: at drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c:307 serial_write+0x62/0x89 [usbserial]() Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698415] Modules linked in: nls_utf8 nls_cp437 vfat fat nls_base ppdev lp ipv6 cpufreq_userspace cpufreq_conservative cpufreq_powersave cpufreq_ondemand cpufreq_stats freq_table ext2 sbp2 loop ide_cd_mod cdrom usb_storage pl2303 usbserial snd_hda_intel snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_pcm parport_pc parport floppy snd_seq_dummy snd_seq_oss serio_raw snd_seq_midi snd_rawmidi pcspkr psmouse snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq jmicron k8temp snd_timer snd_seq_device ohci1394 ieee1394 snd ahci soundcore snd_page_alloc forcedeth ehci_hcd amd74xx ohci_hcd button i2c_nforce2 i2c_core evdev
gnome-ppp error
I can connect to my ISP through my phone modem using gnome-ppp, but then I get this error message: --> Sending: (password) Entering PPP mode. Async interface address is unnumbered (FastEthernet2/0/0) Your IP address is 0.0.0.0. MTU is 1500 bytes Header compression is on. --> Looks like a welcome message. --> Starting pppd at Sun Mar 7 03:16:55 2010 --> Pid of pppd: 23505 --> Disconnecting at Sun Mar 7 03:16:55 2010 --> The PPP daemon has died: pppd options error (exit code = 2) --> man pppd explains pppd error codes in more detail. --> I guess that's it for now, exiting --> The PPP daemon has died. (exit code = 2) Error code 2 means that pppd is getting conflicting options. I don't have a ~/.ppprc file. The /etc/ppp/options file says: asyncmap 0 auth crtscts lock hide-password modem proxyarp lcp-echo-interval 30 lcp-echo-failure 4 noipx These options don't appear to conflict with each other. Do they? gnome-ppp invokes wvdial, and maybe when wvdial invokes pppd it specifies some option which conflicts with one of the above. Here's my /etc/wvdial.conf file, which I don't think is the problem: [Dialer Defaults] Init1 = ATZ Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 Modem Type = Analog Modem Baud = 230400 New PPPD = yes Modem = /dev/ttyUSB0 ISDN = 0 Phone = myISPphonenumber Password = mypassword Username = myusername Is there some log file I can access to show me what is going on? Thanks in advance! David J. Bush -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/18764ae09d96cd8cff7144dd538c13e8.squir...@webmail.ntelos.net
Re: PPP / ADSL / demand / GUI prompt question
--- On Thu, 12/24/09, Kevin Ross wrote: > Try adding "maxfail 0" to your config file. Thanks for this suggestion. I have added the 'maxfail 0' line to my provider file but it does not seem to have solved the problem. When I boot into Linux from cold, iceweasel cannot connect to the internet and 'ps' shows that pppd is not running. But when I boot into Linux when the machine is already switched on, pppd manages to stay up and iceweasel can connect straight away. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: PPP / ADSL / demand / GUI prompt question
stephen...@yahoo.com wrote: Just to update this old thread a bit: actually this didn't work perfectly, it only worked when I started up Linux when the PC was already switched on beforehand. When switching the PC on from cold and booting into Linux, it did not work, I think because it was trying to talk to the ADSL modem before the modem was ready. So following a suggestion on another web page I found, instead of doing the above, I put the following line in my /etc/inittab: s1:23:respawn:/usr/sbin/pppd call This seems to have solved the problem, but there is one minor niggle left: when this line in inittab is being processed, pppd seems to crash out the first few times it is started - I assume for the same reason mentioned above, i.e. the ADSL modem is not yet ready - and this causes an error that it is "respawning too fast" and will be put on hold for 5 minutes (I don't have the exact text of the message). Somehow though it is managing to get pppd running because when I log in, iceweasel can connect to the internet straight away. I can probably work out a way to put in a delay between each respawn to stop this message, but if anyone has a good idea or knows the 'right' way to do this I'd be grateful. Thanks in advance Try adding "maxfail 0" to your config file. The default configuration is to try 10 times then give up. It's probably giving up before the DSL modem has had a chance to come up. That would be a better solution than adding pppd to your inittab. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: PPP / ADSL / demand / GUI prompt question
Thanks Stan but my modem is powered from the PC - it has no other power supply. (Here is a picture of the model I have, which I found on the internet: http://www.sbazar.cz/img/big/74/2917974_1.jpg ). And I wouldn't like to leave the PC on all the time, I don't think its power would be negligible, its fans make plenty of noise even when I am not doing anything on it. The PC is nearly 8 years old and has an Athlon CPU. You may be relieved to hear though that I am thinking of changing to an ISP who will give me a wireless hub when I join up :-) --- On Wed, 12/23/09, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > > --- On Tue, 11/3/09, stephen...@yahoo.com > > wrote: > > > This seems to have solved the problem, but there is > one minor niggle left: when this line in inittab is being > processed, pppd seems to crash out the first few times it is > started - I assume for the same reason mentioned above, i.e. > the ADSL modem is not yet ready - and this causes an error > that it is "respawning too fast" and will be put on hold for > 5 minutes (I don't have the exact text of the > message). Somehow though it is managing to get pppd > running because when I log in, iceweasel can connect to the > internet straight away. > > > > I can probably work out a way to put in a delay > between each respawn to stop this message, but if anyone has > a good idea or knows the 'right' way to do this I'd be > grateful. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > Why power off your modem? Just leave it on all the > time like most other people > do. Mine is on 24x7x365 and has been for many many > years. No problems. DSL > modem power consumption is in the single digit watt range > if not down in the > milli watt range, depending on model. I.e. you won't > see any difference on your > electric bill. For that matter, leaving your PC on > all the time probably won't > be noticeable either. > > -- > Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: PPP / ADSL / demand / GUI prompt question
stephen...@yahoo.com put forth on 12/23/2009 8:37 AM: > --- On Tue, 11/3/09, stephen...@yahoo.com wrote: > >> --- On Sat, 10/31/09, Kevin Ross wrote: >> >>> If you want to have your connection >>> be established on bootup, the "Debian >>> way" is to add your PPP connection to your >>> /etc/network/interfaces file, >>> like: >>> >>> auto ppp0 >>> iface ppp0 inet ppp >>> provider dsl-provider >> >> This worked perfectly - I now fire up iceweasel as soon as >> I log in, and I see the internet straight away. >> Thanks! > > Just to update this old thread a bit: actually this didn't work perfectly, it > only worked when I started up Linux when the PC was already switched on > beforehand. When switching the PC on from cold and booting into Linux, it > did not work, I think because it was trying to talk to the ADSL modem before > the modem was ready. So following a suggestion on another web page I found, > instead of doing the above, I put the following line in my /etc/inittab: > > s1:23:respawn:/usr/sbin/pppd call > > This seems to have solved the problem, but there is one minor niggle left: > when this line in inittab is being processed, pppd seems to crash out the > first few times it is started - I assume for the same reason mentioned above, > i.e. the ADSL modem is not yet ready - and this causes an error that it is > "respawning too fast" and will be put on hold for 5 minutes (I don't have the > exact text of the message). Somehow though it is managing to get pppd > running because when I log in, iceweasel can connect to the internet straight > away. > > I can probably work out a way to put in a delay between each respawn to stop > this message, but if anyone has a good idea or knows the 'right' way to do > this I'd be grateful. > > Thanks in advance. Why power off your modem? Just leave it on all the time like most other people do. Mine is on 24x7x365 and has been for many many years. No problems. DSL modem power consumption is in the single digit watt range if not down in the milli watt range, depending on model. I.e. you won't see any difference on your electric bill. For that matter, leaving your PC on all the time probably won't be noticeable either. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
RE: PPP / ADSL / demand / GUI prompt question
--- On Tue, 11/3/09, stephen...@yahoo.com wrote: > --- On Sat, 10/31/09, Kevin Ross wrote: > > > If you want to have your connection > > be established on bootup, the "Debian > > way" is to add your PPP connection to your > > /etc/network/interfaces file, > > like: > > > > auto ppp0 > > iface ppp0 inet ppp > > provider dsl-provider > > This worked perfectly - I now fire up iceweasel as soon as > I log in, and I see the internet straight away. > Thanks! Just to update this old thread a bit: actually this didn't work perfectly, it only worked when I started up Linux when the PC was already switched on beforehand. When switching the PC on from cold and booting into Linux, it did not work, I think because it was trying to talk to the ADSL modem before the modem was ready. So following a suggestion on another web page I found, instead of doing the above, I put the following line in my /etc/inittab: s1:23:respawn:/usr/sbin/pppd call This seems to have solved the problem, but there is one minor niggle left: when this line in inittab is being processed, pppd seems to crash out the first few times it is started - I assume for the same reason mentioned above, i.e. the ADSL modem is not yet ready - and this causes an error that it is "respawning too fast" and will be put on hold for 5 minutes (I don't have the exact text of the message). Somehow though it is managing to get pppd running because when I log in, iceweasel can connect to the internet straight away. I can probably work out a way to put in a delay between each respawn to stop this message, but if anyone has a good idea or knows the 'right' way to do this I'd be grateful. Thanks in advance. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
bluetooth / ppp trouble
Hi, I'm having trouble connecting my Palm Centro (basically a Treo) to my Debian system via bluetooth, following these directions: http://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothPalmOSConnection Here's what I get: ~# dund --nodetach --listen --persist --msdun call centro dund[4423]: Bluetooth DUN daemon version 4.57 using channel 12 Using interface ppp0 Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/rfcomm0 sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1] dund[4424]: New connection from 00:07:E0:E7:25:6E sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1] rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 ] sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x2 ] sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1] rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x3 ] sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x3 ] sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1] sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1] rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x4 ] sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x4 ] sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1] rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x5 ] sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x5 ] sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1] rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x6 ] sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x6 ] sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1] rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x7 ] sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x7 ] sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1] sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1] rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x8 ] sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x8 ] LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests Connection terminated. Modem hangup I don't know exactly what all the LCP messages mean, but I do note that the rcvd lines are all ConfReq's, and IIUC, I should be getting a ConfAck in response to the sent ConfReq. Can anyone figure out what's going on here? Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
RE: PPP / ADSL / demand / GUI prompt question
--- On Sat, 10/31/09, Kevin Ross wrote: > If you want to have your connection > be established on bootup, the "Debian > way" is to add your PPP connection to your > /etc/network/interfaces file, > like: > > auto ppp0 > iface ppp0 inet ppp > provider dsl-provider This worked perfectly - I now fire up iceweasel as soon as I log in, and I see the internet straight away. Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: PPP / ADSL / demand / GUI prompt question
Hi, On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 08:15:25PM -0700, stephen...@yahoo.com wrote: > --- On Sat, 10/31/09, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > Maybe I missed something in a previous post. If you > > don't have > > ethernet, then how are you connecting to the dsl > > modem? USB? > > Yes USB to ADSL modem to POTS. I think your suggestion of buying a > router was still valid however, I found several recommendations to do > this when I was Googling to find out how to get pon and poff working. > However I was and am determined that I shouldn't need to buy any more > hardware than Windows has needed, and I felt vindicated in this when I > did get pon and poff working. Assuming your USB-ADSL modem does not need funkey firmware binary loaded, you may get this system working. If your so called "USB-ADSL modem" is internally combination of "USB-ethernet" adapter plus "ADSL modem", you just need to enable supporting kernel module for "USB-ethernet" adapter and use pppoeconf. I guess you may need usbnet module. http://www.linux-usb.org/usbnet/ Good luck. Osamu > With that I now have almost everything I want, so the case for buying > more hardware is even weaker now than it was when I started out. I > could even put 'pon' in the initrc file (or whatever it's called these > days), or perhaps in users' .profiles, so that nobody would need to > type it explicitly. However I would prefer to get the 'demand' > feature working - since it is supposed to work, and it is cooler - and > I also still like the idea of having a GUI dialog. Maybe it's because > I have used Windows for too long and have developed Stockholm > syndrome, but I like the way it lets me see, and approve, connection > attempts. I do not understand what you mean but posting model number or doing googling on it may help you. Also, please read basics at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: PPP / ADSL / demand / GUI prompt question
--- On Sun, 11/1/09, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > stephen...@yahoo.com > put forth on 11/1/2009 3:19 AM: > > No not absolutely sure, I just assumed... > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-to-Point_Protocol_over_ATM > > By saying > "DHCP" for all dynamic IP allocations, you're in essence > doing what my > father does when he uses "DSL" to refer to cable modem, > satellite, and > FIOS. He just can't grasp the difference (or just > doesn't care). > > He's 72, so I guess you just can't teach some old dogs new > tricks. Perhaps I was being a bit self-deprecatory in my previous message as I had actually worked out what pppoatm stood for, although I hadn't (and haven't) read the Wikipedia page for it. Perhaps I should explain that although I used to work with computers, I have not done so for over six years (I now program a different type of machine, aged 11-16). Perhaps I was exposed to a limited range of technologies, or perhaps things have changed since I left the industry, but either way it is clear that although I knew what DHCP was, I was mistaken to assume it was synonymous with dynamic IP address assignment, which was what I meant when I told Kevin that I was using DHCP. Insofar as my incorrect use of acronyms has caused irritation / unnecessary posts / made it harder for people to help me, I apologise (and will try to avoid such assumptions in future posts). Outside the confines of this list however, I'm afraid I'm probably with your father! To end with a technical question for anybody who can answer: does the fact that I'm using PPP over ATM have any bearing on why the 'demand' line in my provider file does not work properly? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
PPP / ADSL / demand / GUI prompt question
stephen...@yahoo.com put forth on 11/1/2009 3:19 AM: > No not absolutely sure, I just assumed that was what was being used as I get > different IP addresses every time I connect. I am pretty sure pppd IS > working, which from what you write suggests I am not using DHCP. However I > vaguely remember that when I was getting the link to work I read that I was > using something called pppoa rather than pppoe, and indeed putting the > following line in my /etc/ppp/peers/provider file was important to getting > the link working: > > plugin pppoatm.so 0.38 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-to-Point_Protocol_over_ATM Again, DHCP != dynamic IP address allocation. It is merely one of many protocols that accomplishes dynamic IP address allocation. By saying "DHCP" for all dynamic IP allocations, you're in essence doing what my father does when he uses "DSL" to refer to cable modem, satellite, and FIOS. He just can't grasp the difference (or just doesn't care). If it's high speed internet, to him, then it's "DSL"... He's 72, so I guess you just can't teach some old dogs new tricks. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: PPP / ADSL / demand / GUI prompt question
Klistvud: > Well, another, quite intuitive way of achieving what you want would be > to write a script to launch Iceweasel Good idea, should have thought of that myself. On reflection though, although my guests will only want to use iceweasel, I occasionally use other internet programs such as ftp, filezilla and even telnet and ping, so that would still not be as useful as demand dialling, or being connected all the time as you later suggest. Kevin Ross: > Are you absolutely sure of that?.ISP's mainly use two different methods of > assigning IP addresses to their customers. DHCP or PPPoE. If your ISP uses > PPPoE, then you need to use pppd with a PPPoE plugin. If they use DHCP, > then you don't use pppd at all. You just use a DHCP client on your > machiine. Using pppd won't work at all. No not absolutely sure, I just assumed that was what was being used as I get different IP addresses every time I connect. I am pretty sure pppd IS working, which from what you write suggests I am not using DHCP. However I vaguely remember that when I was getting the link to work I read that I was using something called pppoa rather than pppoe, and indeed putting the following line in my /etc/ppp/peers/provider file was important to getting the link working: plugin pppoatm.so 0.38 (My provider is Tiscali in the U.K.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
PPP / ADSL / demand / GUI prompt question
Kevin Ross put forth on 10/31/2009 4:36 PM: > If there's any uncertainty on your part, maybe you could tell us what ISP > you're using, and in what geographic region. DHCP = username and password _not_ required DHCP has no concept of security credentials PPPoE = username and password _required_ PPPoE is all about security credentials The uneducated may unknowingly assume these two terms refer to the same thing (they don't), as one important result of both is a dynamically assigned IP address. However, the architecture of how each of these works is quite different. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Host_Configuration_Protocol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-to-Point_Protocol_over_Ethernet Hope this helps. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
RE: PPP / ADSL / demand / GUI prompt question
> From: stephen...@yahoo.com [mailto:stephen...@yahoo.com] > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 5:16 AM > > My current ISP uses DHCP - does that change anything you've written? > Are you absolutely sure of that? ISP's mainly use two different methods of assigning IP addresses to their customers. DHCP or PPPoE. If your ISP uses PPPoE, then you need to use pppd with a PPPoE plugin. If they use DHCP, then you don't use pppd at all. You just use a DHCP client on your machiine. Using pppd won't work at all. If there's any uncertainty on your part, maybe you could tell us what ISP you're using, and in what geographic region. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: PPP / ADSL / demand / GUI prompt question
Well, another, quite intuitive way of achieving what you want would be to write a script to launch Iceweasel, and use that script instead of the Iceweasel icon. In the script, you could type in all the commands you currently type by hand, then type iceweasel on the next line, and finally, type all the commands you currently use to disconnect. Then, you would just make a nice desktop shortcut to the script, with a big shiny icon, and you're all set and done. The script would execute pon, launch iceweasel, and when you close iceweasel, it would execute poff. Can't get much simpler than that. If you just LOVE to have a dialog (and if you use Gnome), you could also intersperse the script with a bunch of colorful zenity dialogs (man zenity). Of course, all this is quite useless if your xADSL is not "pay-per- minute"; if it's "pay-per-megabyte", then it's best to have it always on -- that's even cooler than having cool dialogs! -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
RE: PPP / ADSL / demand / GUI prompt question
H.S.:
> 3. Make a shortcut on everyone's desktop to call the pon command ("sudo
> pon dsl-provider").
Thanks for that suggestion H.S., yes I think my 'guests' could manage that. I
have added my guest accounts to the 'dip' group so the shortcut wouldn't need
to use 'sudo'. However, in light of other replies I think I am probably going
to try to go with the 'always connected' option.
Stan Hoeppner:
> Your DSL modem connects to a DSLAM, not POTS.
(*quickly looks up what DSLAM stands for on Wikipedia*) I knew that :-)
> You must have been a long time POTS modem dialup (or worse on top of
> that, AOL) user given your goofy preference to see a dial on demand GUI
> box. xDSL is an "always connected" technology. There is no reason to
> ever "hang up". Thus, just configure the PPPoE client to stay
> connected, or re-connect should the PPPoE session be dropped for any
> reason. And have it do it all in the background. There's no need for
> user interaction, none whatsoever.
Thanks for explaining that, which I wasn't 100% aware of. I thought maybe some
ADSL providers charged by time connected the way they do with dial-up, although
I knew mine didn't. I think maybe you have cured me of my Stockholm syndrome =
GUI dialog neediness.
Actually I have been using ADSL a lot longer than I was on dial-up, and no I
have never been an AOL customer. I long ago imbibed the Unix philosophy of 'do
one thing and do it well' and I expect my ISP to follow that maxim too.
> Regarding a broadband router, it's not about "need", it's about
> convenience and ease of use. It also adds a layer of security
> protection due to NAT and SPI, especially if you've not configured
> iptables on Linux to provide a packet firewall. And, configuring the
> firewall features of a broadband router is a helluva lot simpler than
> iptables.
I don't understand much of this (yet) but it comes back to the fact that (I
feel) I have had convenience and ease of use with Windows, and I already have
(almost all of) the same level of convenience and ease of use in my Debian
installation, with this hardware. In fact with your comments that I should be
connected all the time, and Kevin's advice about how to configure that, I hope
to reach an even greater level of ease of use with Debian.
Coming back to what you have written though, it sounds like I'm not really
aware of what types of attack I might be vulnerable to with my current setup,
running Linux. Since I imagine that could be quite a big topic please feel
free to just provide a link rather than take up more of your time explaining
stuff (but if you want to explain that would be great). On Windows I used a
software firewall (ZoneAlarm), does this concept not transfer to Linux? I was
kind of hoping it didn't simply because Unix's intrinsic security made
firewalls unnecessary – wishful thinking?
(Aside: I tried to look up what SPI stands for, but Wikipedia lists at least 4
different things in the field of computer networking! Is it System Packet
Interface, Security Parameter Index, Service Package Interpreter, Stateful
Package Inspection?)
Kevin Ross:
> If you want to have your connection be established on bootup, the "Debian
> way" is to add your PPP connection to your /etc/network/interfaces file,
> like:
Thanks for that Kevin, I will definitely be trying this as my next line of
attack (when I have more time to spend on it). I will post back to the group
with the result.
> Then, in your ppp options, add the "persist" option, which will cause your
> connection to automatically reconnect should the connection be lost. Remove
> any "demand", "idle", or "holdoff" options.
I already have the 'persist' option. It was mentioned in the instructions I
found to get the DSL modem working in the first place with pon and poff.
> For security, you'll want to add a firewall. I use shorewall myself, and
> like it.
Thanks, I will look this up.
> That's how I had it setup before I switched to a DSL provider that used DHCP
> instead of PPPoE.
My current ISP uses DHCP – does that change anything you've written?
> Hope this helps!
It definitely sounds like it will, thanks.
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