Re: partitioning, dual booting(?)
Tek wrote: What will allow me to drop to DOS and go through lilo? I think you mean drop to DOS and go through Loadlin, not lilo. Lilo is not accessed from DOS. It's a boot loader that gets installed in either the MBR, or in a partition boot sector. Loadlin, on the other hand, is a DOS based boot loader for Linux. To use it you need only two files: 1) your Linux kernel image file 2) loadlin.exe Basic use is very simple. From Really DOS Mode, you execute a command line like the following, which can also be executed from a DOS batch file: loadlin vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro vga=5 vmlinuz -- the name of your kernel image file root=-- specifies where your Linux root partition is located ro -- mounts the root partition read only (until fsck is run during boot) vga= -- can be used to set video mode (mode 5 = 80x34) For more details, install the Debian loadlin package and look at the documentation in /usr/doc/loadlin. The loadlin package also, of course, includes the loadlin.exe binary. Tom I'm not all that new to the Linux thing, but I want to install Debian 2.1 onto a 2.1 gig hard drive and be able to keep my other OS (sadly, Win98) until I can burn all my stuff to disc and convert my other HDD (8.6GB) to ext2. In any case, I'd just like to know how I can partition it correctly ... I want to be able to use LILO through DOS to boot to Linux off the hard drive, because on the box I've had for about a year now boots off a floppy, which takes an unnecessarily inordinate amount of time. Should I make a 16MB partition specifically for /boot (some guy on another list said that would work), another partition for root (what's appropriate size here, as a partition of a 2GB HDD if I want to use the system for coding/development?), and the rest for /usr and all the other stuff? How do you (plural) suggest I go about doing this? Also, can I specify where I want all the parts of the file system to rest on the drive? I can't remember from my last installation (did a plain old vanilla stripped-server profile for my boss). What will allow me to drop to DOS and go through lilo? I've checked the FAQ, and I suppose what I'm looking for is something more in-depth ... I thank you all for your time, Michael Phillips (I'm having troubles with it not recognizing my Rockwell HCF 56K, too, but that's a whole other email! :o)
partitioning, dual booting(?)
I'm not all that new to the Linux thing, but I want to install Debian 2.1 onto a 2.1 gig hard drive and be able to keep my other OS (sadly, Win98) until I can burn all my stuff to disc and convert my other HDD (8.6GB) to ext2. In any case, I'd just like to know how I can partition it correctly ... I want to be able to use LILO through DOS to boot to Linux off the hard drive, because on the box I've had for about a year now boots off a floppy, which takes an unnecessarily inordinate amount of time. Should I make a 16MB partition specifically for /boot (some guy on another list said that would work), another partition for root (what's appropriate size here, as a partition of a 2GB HDD if I want to use the system for coding/development?), and the rest for /usr and all the other stuff? How do you (plural) suggest I go about doing this? Also, can I specify where I want all the parts of the file system to rest on the drive? I can't remember from my last installation (did a plain old vanilla stripped-server profile for my boss). What will allow me to drop to DOS and go through lilo? I've checked the FAQ, and I suppose what I'm looking for is something more in-depth ... I thank you all for your time, Michael Phillips (I'm having troubles with it not recognizing my Rockwell HCF 56K, too, but that's a whole other email! :o)
Re: Partitioning/Dual Booting
SNIP Important! 1 After changing /etc/lilo.conf, and especially after changing the kernel, you must run /sbin/lilo to update the boot map. SNIP Might I inquire as to what this bootmap stuff is about and why its important? I've built and used kernels 2.0.29,2.0.30,2.0.32,2.0.33 and 2.0.34 on my machine and never thought of running lilo again, yet everything still works fine. Thanks, Timothy -- E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 25-Jun-98 Time: 22:44:54 This message was sent by XFMail. Powered by GNU/Linux 2.0. -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partitioning/Dual Booting
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP Important! 1 After changing /etc/lilo.conf, and especially after changing the kernel, you must run /sbin/lilo to update the boot map. SNIP Might I inquire as to what this bootmap stuff is about and why its important? I've built and used kernels 2.0.29,2.0.30,2.0.32,2.0.33 and 2.0.3 4 on my machine and never thought of running lilo again, yet everything still wor ks fine. Answer off the top of my head (so check the details if it matters): Lilo stores the actual disk address of the kernel in the boot map (this is run before there is an operating system to interpret the file system). If you recompile the kernel, it will almost certainly be somewhere different and you won't be able to boot. If you build the kernel with `make zlilo' this is done for you, which is perhaps why you haven't had any problem. If you use `make zimage', on the other hand, you must run lilo before you reboot. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.I John 2:15 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Partitioning/Dual Booting
I'm a newby to the whole Linux/GNU/Debian system, being a long-time MS devotee, and although I am very close to being sold on getting it, I have a couple of questions to clear up first. 1: In the FAQ, section 3.4 http://www.us.debian.org/doc/FAQ/debian-faq-3.html#ss3.4 states that one should partition a 1.6 GB hard disk with the following partitions: 30 MBytes for the root directory (/) 450 MBytes for /usr 50 MBytes for swap space 1000 MBytes for home directories (some of this could be used for /usr/local/) 0 MBytes for /tmp; make /tmp a symbolic link to /var/tmp 40 MBytes for /var Pardon my ignorance, or mayhaps it's the ambiguity of the whole section, but does this mean I need five separate partitions on the single disk, or (more likely, methinks) does it mean that the single partition consists of 1570 MBytes? Any clarification would be most appreciated. Also, seeing as how I _am_ new to the idea, I would very much like to perform a dual boot between Win95/MS-DOS, and Debian/GNU Linux operating systems. Seems like somewhere in the dark recesses of the PC World archives there's a miniscule article about dual-booting between 2 or more OSes, but I've since lost/given away the issue, and I'd like to hear it from a user more experienced than myself in the area. Again, help is most appreciated. Thanks in advance, M. Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partitioning/Dual Booting
* M. Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | 1: In the FAQ, section 3.4 | http://www.us.debian.org/doc/FAQ/debian-faq-3.html#ss3.4 states that one | should partition a 1.6 GB hard disk with the following partitions: | | ?30 MBytes for the root directory (/) | ?450 MBytes for /usr | ?50 MBytes for swap space | ?1000 MBytes for home directories (some of this could be used for | /usr/local/) | ?0 MBytes for /tmp; make /tmp a symbolic link to /var/tmp | ?40 MBytes for /var | | Pardon my ignorance, or mayhaps it's the ambiguity of the whole section, | but does this mean I need five separate partitions on the single disk, or | (more likely, methinks) does it mean that the single partition consists of | 1570 MBytes? Any clarification would be most appreciated. No, you do not _need_ five partitions. Two partitions will do just fine (one for swap and one for linux). The idea of many partitions is mainly for security (if one partition crashes, it needn't affect the others). For a beginner it might be just as easy to go with two partitions (you don't have to have a swap partition, but it's nice). BTW: These sizes add up to more than 1.6 GB. :-) | Also, seeing as how I _am_ new to the idea, I would very much like to | perform a dual boot between Win95/MS-DOS, and Debian/GNU Linux operating | systems. Seems like somewhere in the dark recesses of the PC World | archives there's a miniscule article about dual-booting between 2 or more | OSes, but I've since lost/given away the issue, and I'd like to hear it | from a user more experienced than myself in the area. There are several ways to do this. One option is to use as program called loadlin. It allows you to load linux from dos, so you don't have to mess with boot-sectors. Just boot as usual to dos and run loadlin from there. Another way is to use lilo. Lilo installs a boot-block that allows you to choose between linux and win/dos when you boot. -- Ole -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partitioning/Dual Booting
M. Phillips wrote: I'm a newby to the whole Linux/GNU/Debian system, being a long-time MS devotee, and although I am very close to being sold on getting it, I have a couple of questions to clear up first. 1: In the FAQ, section 3.4 http://www.us.debian.org/doc/FAQ/debian-faq-3.html#ss3.4 states that one should partition a 1.6 GB hard disk with the following partitions: 30 MBytes for the root directory (/) 450 MBytes for /usr 50 MBytes for swap space 1000 MBytes for home directories (some of this could be used for /usr/local/) 0 MBytes for /tmp; make /tmp a symbolic link to /var/tmp 40 MBytes for /var Pardon my ignorance, or mayhaps it's the ambiguity of the whole section, but does this mean I need five separate partitions on the single disk, or (more likely, methinks) does it mean that the single partition consists of 1570 MBytes? Any clarification would be most appreciated. This is indeed 5 partitions. The swap partition is used as a runtime memory extension; the other partitions separate out parts of the directory tree to limit the extent of damage in case of any disaster. If one filesystem gets corrupted, the others should still be OK. Also, seeing as how I _am_ new to the idea, I would very much like to perform a dual boot between Win95/MS-DOS, and Debian/GNU Linux operating systems. Seems like somewhere in the dark recesses of the PC World archives there's a miniscule article about dual-booting between 2 or more OSes, but I've since lost/given away the issue, and I'd like to hear it from a user more experienced than myself in the area. When you install Debian, you can get dual booting by using LILO. This is my config file (/etc/lilo.conf): boot=/dev/hda3 root=/dev/hda3 compact install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map vga=normal delay=50 # Linux - 2.0.32 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.32 label=linux append=mem=96m aic7xxx=ultra read-only # Linux - 2.0.33 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.33 label=linux2033 append=mem=96m aic7xxx=ultra read-only # Win 95 other=/dev/hda1 label=w95 This particular configuration allows me to boot Linux with either of two kernel versions; it also allows for Windows95. Important! 1 After changing /etc/lilo.conf, and especially after changing the kernel, you must run /sbin/lilo to update the boot map. 2 Install any Microsoft product first; Microsoft has no respect for the presence of any other OS and is liable to overwrite the boot sector. 3 Make sure you have a rescue floppy or a bootable CD. If you don't want to risk using LILO you can boot Linux from inside DOS with LOADLIN.EXE. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 Honor thy father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise; That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth. Ephesians 6:2,3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partitioning/Dual Booting
M. Phillips wrote: I'm a newby to the whole Linux/GNU/Debian system, being a long-time MS devotee, and although I am very close to being sold on getting it, I have a couple of questions to clear up first. 1: In the FAQ, section 3.4 http://www.us.debian.org/doc/FAQ/debian-faq-3.html#ss3.4 states that one should partition a 1.6 GB hard disk with the following partitions: *30 MBytes for the root directory (/) *450 MBytes for /usr *50 MBytes for swap space *1000 MBytes for home directories (some of this could be used for /usr/local/) *0 MBytes for /tmp; make /tmp a symbolic link to /var/tmp *40 MBytes for /var Pardon my ignorance, or mayhaps it's the ambiguity of the whole section, but does this mean I need five separate partitions on the single disk, or (more likely, methinks) does it mean that the single partition consists of 1570 MBytes? Any clarification would be most appreciated. Yes this example show that you need 5 separate partitions. I just did this to my computer recently. Here is how I have it set-up: paritionLinux Name Mount Point (where it is in the directory map) 1 hda1none Win 95 2 hda2Linux root (/) 3 hda3Linux /usr (where most of your applications hide) 4 hda4Linux swap Just use your handy cfdisk program included with you Debian distribution (after backing up ALL the data you wish to keep) and make your partitions. Otherwise you could use Partition Magic to shrink the size of your Windows or DOS partition and create your linux partitions from the free space. Also, seeing as how I _am_ new to the idea, I would very much like to perform a dual boot between Win95/MS-DOS, and Debian/GNU Linux operating systems. Seems like somewhere in the dark recesses of the PC World archives there's a miniscule article about dual-booting between 2 or more OSes, but I've since lost/given away the issue, and I'd like to hear it from a user more experienced than myself in the area. To use the quick way out at www.linux.org in the HOWTO documents there is one on dual booting between Linux and Win95/DOS/OS2 etc... Linux uses the LILO loader to load up your operating system, but you can also use it to load Windows or DOS. If you need more help just ask I can send you my lilo.conf the file which tells LILO how to boot up Win95 in my system. Mark Panzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
