Re: Peak load handling by Debian repository servers ????

2021-12-26 Thread Keith Christian
One could run 'tcpdump' or a while loop logging the output of 'netstat -an'
to a file for the duration of the interaction with the Debian servers,
then, examine the file afterward.


Documentation reference: [WAS Re: Peak load handling by Debian repository servers ????]

2021-12-26 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 08:28:17AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 12/26/2021 08:22 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 08:15:54AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > How does Debian repository distribute load during peaks?
> > > Where/how is this documented?
> > > 
> > > Consider the case when many users may specify the same URL in 
> > > sources.list .
> > > If they all try to install packages at the same time there could be
> > > problems. How does a particular user know which physical server provided a
> > > particular package?
> > > 
> > > I have a problem that could be explained by different users receiving
> > > packages from different servers. My web searches and other posts have been
> > > futile. I need background information to be able to ask an answerable
> > > question.
> > > 
> > > Appropriate documentation URL?
> > > TIA
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > deb.debian.org is a distributed network of mirrors based on geolocation
> > 
> > It should be absolutely immaterial which server provided which package
> > logs may tell you which mirror apt-get queried.
> > 
> > All the very best, as ever
> > 
> > Andy Cater
> 
> *Appropriate documentation URL?*
> 
> 
>

Richard

https://www.debian.org/mirror/list explains that you can use a mirror that's
backed by a global CDN [content delivery network]

http://deb.debian.org/

Suggests that these are backed by Fastly and Cloudflare: Fastly supports
at least their instance

https://www.fastly.com/ 

Search terms: deb.debian.org package mirror

Hope this helps - all the very best, as ever,

Andy Cater



Re: Peak load handling by Debian repository servers ????

2021-12-26 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-12-26 at 09:28, Richard Owlett wrote:

> On 12/26/2021 08:22 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 08:15:54AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
>>
>>> How does Debian repository distribute load during peaks?
>>> Where/how is this documented?
>>>
>>> Consider the case when many users may specify the same URL in sources.list .
>>> If they all try to install packages at the same time there could be
>>> problems. How does a particular user know which physical server provided a
>>> particular package?
>>>
>>> I have a problem that could be explained by different users receiving
>>> packages from different servers. My web searches and other posts have been
>>> futile. I need background information to be able to ask an answerable
>>> question.
>>>
>>> Appropriate documentation URL?
>>> TIA
>> 
>> deb.debian.org is a distributed network of mirrors based on geolocation
>> 
>> It should be absolutely immaterial which server provided which package
>> logs may tell you which mirror apt-get queried.
>> 
>> All the very best, as ever
>> 
>> Andy Cater
> 
> *Appropriate documentation URL?*

Given the information which he provided for you, above, why would you
think there is any appropriate documentation to which a URL could be
provided?

If (as he indicated) which server a package comes from should be
immaterial, then there would be no reason to create documentation about
how to determine that, much less about any other aspect. As such, there
may not be any relevant document for a URL to point to.

Is there a reason you don't provide the explanation/description of the
actual problem you're encountering, so that people can try to identify
possible explanations and solutions for it? You yourself wrote that the
problem only "could be explained by" the model you've settled on; since
there's a chance that that might not explain it, wouldn't it be better
to let people try to look for alternative possible explanations?

-- 
   The Wanderer will, as usual, probably regret this

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw



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Re: Peak load handling by Debian repository servers ????

2021-12-26 Thread Richard Owlett

On 12/26/2021 08:22 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 08:15:54AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:

How does Debian repository distribute load during peaks?
Where/how is this documented?

Consider the case when many users may specify the same URL in sources.list .
If they all try to install packages at the same time there could be
problems. How does a particular user know which physical server provided a
particular package?

I have a problem that could be explained by different users receiving
packages from different servers. My web searches and other posts have been
futile. I need background information to be able to ask an answerable
question.

Appropriate documentation URL?
TIA




deb.debian.org is a distributed network of mirrors based on geolocation

It should be absolutely immaterial which server provided which package
logs may tell you which mirror apt-get queried.

All the very best, as ever

Andy Cater


*Appropriate documentation URL?*





Re: Peak load handling by Debian repository servers ????

2021-12-26 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 08:15:54AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> How does Debian repository distribute load during peaks?
> Where/how is this documented?
> 
> Consider the case when many users may specify the same URL in sources.list .
> If they all try to install packages at the same time there could be
> problems. How does a particular user know which physical server provided a
> particular package?
> 
> I have a problem that could be explained by different users receiving
> packages from different servers. My web searches and other posts have been
> futile. I need background information to be able to ask an answerable
> question.
> 
> Appropriate documentation URL?
> TIA
> 
> 

deb.debian.org is a distributed network of mirrors based on geolocation

It should be absolutely immaterial which server provided which package
logs may tell you which mirror apt-get queried.

All the very best, as ever

Andy Cater


> 



Peak load handling by Debian repository servers ????

2021-12-26 Thread Richard Owlett

How does Debian repository distribute load during peaks?
Where/how is this documented?

Consider the case when many users may specify the same URL in 
sources.list . If they all try to install packages at the same time 
there could be problems. How does a particular user know which physical 
server provided a particular package?


I have a problem that could be explained by different users receiving 
packages from different servers. My web searches and other posts have 
been futile. I need background information to be able to ask an 
answerable question.


Appropriate documentation URL?
TIA