Potential Virus or System Message?

2005-05-01 Thread Faithful John
Hi,
I got this weird message, when I left my email through Telnet/Pine
running when I left my house.

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+ N  15 Apr 27 Dixie H. Brunson(2,892) Cialis Soft Tabs - Super Viagra  
+ N  16 Apr 27 Garry Martin(2,769) Get it up again  
+ N  17 Apr 27 Candy King  (9,592) Info Package: Altoids Vending
+ N  18 Apr 28 Ariel N. McFadden   (2,839) Remember the old days?   
+ N  19 Apr 28 EyeQ   (15,740) Increase reading speed comprehension
Broadcast Message from root (???) on log3 Sun May  1 06:00:01...
? HelpFldrList   P PrevMsg   - PrevPage D Delete   The
system will be shut down in 1 minute  N NextMsg Spc NextPage U
Undelete   F Forward
just because
Broadcast Message from root (???) on log3 Sun May  1 06:00:32...
The
system will be shut down in 30 seconds
just because
Broadcast Message from root (???) on log3 Sun May  1 06:00:52...
THE
SYSTEM IS BEING SHUT DOWN NOW ! ! !
Log off now or risk your files being damaged
just because
Connection closed by foreign host.
You have new mail in /var/mail/selam
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 


Of course, nothing happened... at least I'm pretty sure (I'm a
relative newbie, therefore don't have a great understand of all things
Linux).   Is this normal?   should I be concerned?   Is something in
my system that I should get rid of?

I'm currently running Testing on XFree86, on a pentium classic Aptiva
computer (from 1996).  Any info I can get would be helpful.  
Thanks.
F.J.



Re: Potential Virus or System Message?

2005-05-01 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Faithful John:
 
 I got this weird message, when I left my email through Telnet/Pine
 running when I left my house.
 
 + N  15 Apr 27 Dixie H. Brunson(2,892) Cialis Soft Tabs - Super Viagra
   
 + N  16 Apr 27 Garry Martin(2,769) Get it up again
   
 + N  17 Apr 27 Candy King  (9,592) Info Package: Altoids Vending  
   
 + N  18 Apr 28 Ariel N. McFadden   (2,839) Remember the old days? 
   
 + N  19 Apr 28 EyeQ   (15,740) Increase reading speed 
 comprehension
 Broadcast Message from root (???) on log3 Sun May  1 06:00:01...
 ? HelpFldrList   P PrevMsg   - PrevPage D Delete   The
 system will be shut down in 1 minute  N NextMsg Spc NextPage U
 Undelete   F Forward
 just because
 Broadcast Message from root (???) on log3 Sun May  1 06:00:32...
 The
 system will be shut down in 30 seconds
 just because
 Broadcast Message from root (???) on log3 Sun May  1 06:00:52...
 THE
 SYSTEM IS BEING SHUT DOWN NOW ! ! !
 Log off now or risk your files being damaged
 just because
 Connection closed by foreign host.
 You have new mail in /var/mail/selam
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 

I'd say someone got in, and they got in far enough to shutdown the
machine, which generally means root.  Time to reinstall.  Next time,
go through the ps fax list, and anything that shouldn't be running,
disable it.

 Of course, nothing happened... at least I'm pretty sure (I'm a

Your box may be alright, or it may now be a zombie spam host.  Pore
over the logs in /var/log and see if you can find out how they got
in.  Install chkrootkit and see what it says.

However, I'd give up on it.  There's no telling what they left behind
or replaced.


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Re: Potential Virus or System Message?

2005-05-01 Thread Phil Dyer
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s. keeling wrote:
 Incoming from Faithful John:
 
I got this weird message, when I left my email through Telnet/Pine
running when I left my house.

 
 I'd say someone got in, and they got in far enough to shutdown the
 machine, which generally means root.  Time to reinstall.  Next time,
 go through the ps fax list, and anything that shouldn't be running,
 disable it.

Uh, I'd say he had a telnet session opened to a remote host, and that
remote host shutdown. Doesn't have anything to do with his box.

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Re: Potential Virus or System Message?

2005-05-01 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Phil Dyer:
 s. keeling wrote:
  Incoming from Faithful John:
  
  I got this weird message, when I left my email through Telnet/Pine
  running when I left my house.
  
  I'd say someone got in, and they got in far enough to shutdown the
 
 Uh, I'd say he had a telnet session opened to a remote host, and that

Yup.  Missed that.  I thought the messages were coming from his own box.


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Re: Potential Virus or System Message?

2005-05-01 Thread Faithful John
On 5/1/05, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Incoming from Phil Dyer:
  s. keeling wrote:
   Incoming from Faithful John:
   
   I got this weird message, when I left my email through Telnet/Pine
   running when I left my house.
  
   I'd say someone got in, and they got in far enough to shutdown the
 
  Uh, I'd say he had a telnet session opened to a remote host, and that
 
 Yup.  Missed that.  I thought the messages were coming from his own box.
 
 

I had figured that it might have been a shut down by the remote host,
as it happens all the time with that system.   However, I had never
seen that message before.   Usually it simply just turned off, and
when I tried to do something it would tell me it's been shutdown.  
The just because is what gave me cause for concern.

So this gives me a second question.   I'm pretty sure that I disabled
the remote access ability stuff (though I'm not 100% on that at this
moment).   Is there a chance someone could still get into my system in
any way and do anything? (e.g.if firewalls disabled)   My impression
was that linux was immune to viruses and resistance to personal
attacks since you needed a root password to do any sort of real
changes.
F.J.



Re: Potential Virus or System Message?

2005-05-01 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Faithful John:
 
 So this gives me a second question.   I'm pretty sure that I disabled
 the remote access ability stuff (though I'm not 100% on that at this
 moment).   Is there a chance someone could still get into my system in

Certainly.  What are you running that you don't need to?  sshd and
weak passwords?  ftpd, telnetd, are you allowing remote shell
commands?

Those and many more can easily bite you.  Disable (preferably) or
secure them.


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Re: Potential Virus or System Message?

2005-05-01 Thread Phil Dyer
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Faithful John said:
 So this gives me a second question.   I'm pretty sure that I disabled
 the remote access ability stuff (though I'm not 100% on that at this
 moment).   Is there a chance someone could still get into my system in
 any way and do anything? (e.g.if firewalls disabled)   My impression
 was that linux was immune to viruses and resistance to personal
 attacks since you needed a root password to do any sort of real
 changes.

more complicated than they need root to get me. escalation of
privileges, where a user gets onto your box via some sort of non-root
user thru apache, ssh or whatever and then gains root via some local
program that is vulnerable.

You should run a portscan on yourself with nmap or similar. If you don't
have access to another box, you can go to somewhere like dshield.org and
run a portscan. Always good to do when setting up a new box. good
learning when you get to say what in the heck is that port open for?


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