Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?

2023-12-05 Thread Anders Andersson
On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 1:46 PM D MacDougall  wrote:
>
> On 12/4/23 16:52, Tom Browder wrote:
> >
> > HP printer and toner, Office Depot labels.
> >
> > I bought so hair spray and will try that.
> >
> > -Tom
>
> I just looked at Office Depot website and the only labels I see that are
> for both laser and inkjet are an off brand.  I see why you went for the
> off brand, they are a whole lot cheaper than the Avery labels the same
> size, but maybe this is why.  100 sheets for $13. Twice as many labels
> for 1/3 the price.  I might have tried them too.
>
> I really don't see how hairspray or any other liquid spray could do any
> good.  If you think it will seep under the toner and glue it down that
> seems problematic to me and it might make the labels peel off.
> Cellophane tape might work better.
>
> I think you said that you took the label to the UPS store and their
> printer had the same problem so the problem is definitely the labels and
> best just swallow hard and buy the Avery labels.  (Or just write the
> address with a ball point pen.)
>
> -Don

Please take this discussion about paper adhesive private or to a
suitable forum - it has not have anything to do with debian in a long
time, I'm amazed it's still tolerated!



Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?

2023-12-05 Thread David Christensen

On 12/4/23 16:52, Tom Browder wrote:

On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at 19:36 David Christensen 
wrote:
...


Please confirm printer, toner cartridge, and labels are all HP.  If so,
I would contact HP.



HP printer and toner, Office Depot labels.

I bought so hair spray and will try that.

-Tom



I have an HP LaserJet printer and use generic toner catridges.  HP 
multi-purpose paper and Avery labels work well.  Retail store (Staples) 
branded supplies do not work as well.



I suggest buying HP or Avery laser printer labels.


David




Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?

2023-12-04 Thread D MacDougall

On 12/4/23 16:52, Tom Browder wrote:


HP printer and toner, Office Depot labels.

I bought so hair spray and will try that.

-Tom


I just looked at Office Depot website and the only labels I see that are 
for both laser and inkjet are an off brand.  I see why you went for the 
off brand, they are a whole lot cheaper than the Avery labels the same 
size, but maybe this is why.  100 sheets for $13. Twice as many labels 
for 1/3 the price.  I might have tried them too.


I really don't see how hairspray or any other liquid spray could do any 
good.  If you think it will seep under the toner and glue it down that 
seems problematic to me and it might make the labels peel off. 
Cellophane tape might work better.


I think you said that you took the label to the UPS store and their 
printer had the same problem so the problem is definitely the labels and 
best just swallow hard and buy the Avery labels.  (Or just write the 
address with a ball point pen.)


-Don



Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?

2023-12-04 Thread Tom Browder
On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at 19:36 David Christensen 
wrote:
...

> Please confirm printer, toner cartridge, and labels are all HP.  If so,
> I would contact HP.


HP printer and toner, Office Depot labels.

I bought so hair spray and will try that.

-Tom


Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?

2023-12-03 Thread Gareth Evans



> On 3 Dec 2023, at 12:06, Gareth Evans  wrote:
> 
> ... I've never had a problem with laser-designated labels.  

I do have experience of toner falling off non-laser labels, so perhaps your 
laser labels are a duff batch, or perhaps they were mis-labelled :p

G


Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?

2023-12-03 Thread David Christensen

On 12/3/23 04:05, Gareth Evans wrote:




On 3 Dec 2023, at 11:39, Tom Browder  wrote:
On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 5:17 PM Gareth Evans  wrote:

Are your labels "laser" labels?


Yes, DUAL INKJET and LASER


OK.  I don't have much experience of label printing, but I've never had a 
problem with laser-designated labels.

I would probably try a different brand.  I wouldn't imagine it's a hardware 
issue if the toner fuses properly to paper.

What's the printer model and type of toner in use?

Thanks
Gareth



+1


Please confirm printer, toner cartridge, and labels are all HP.  If so, 
I would contact HP.



David




Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?

2023-12-03 Thread Gareth Evans



> On 3 Dec 2023, at 11:39, Tom Browder  wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 5:17 PM Gareth Evans  wrote:
>> Are your labels "laser" labels?
> 
> Yes, DUAL INKJET and LASER

OK.  I don't have much experience of label printing, but I've never had a 
problem with laser-designated labels.  

I would probably try a different brand.  I wouldn't imagine it's a hardware 
issue if the toner fuses properly to paper.

What's the printer model and type of toner in use?

Thanks
Gareth




Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?

2023-12-03 Thread Tom Browder
On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at 2:01 AM David Christensen
 wrote:
> I would not put anything through a laser printer unless it is
> specifically rated for laser printers.  Applying fixative to printer
> labels before printing sounds like a good way to damage your equipment.
> If anything, apply the fixative after printing.

Of course.



Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?

2023-12-03 Thread Tom Browder
On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 5:17 PM Gareth Evans  wrote:
> Are your labels "laser" labels?

Yes, DUAL INKJET and LASER

-Tom



Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?

2023-12-02 Thread David Christensen

On 12/2/23 15:16, Gareth Evans wrote:




On 2 Dec 2023, at 19:37, Tom Browder  wrote:

I’ve had a print flaking problem with my old HP laser which has a fairly new 
toner cartridge. I have a set of brand new Office Depot labels.

I intend to try a “fixative” on them to see if that will help.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks.

Happy Christmas!

-Tom




Hi Tom,

Are your labels "laser" labels?



+1


I would not put anything through a laser printer unless it is 
specifically rated for laser printers.  Applying fixative to printer 
labels before printing sounds like a good way to damage your equipment. 
If anything, apply the fixative after printing.



David



Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?

2023-12-02 Thread Gareth Evans



> On 2 Dec 2023, at 19:37, Tom Browder  wrote:
> 
> I’ve had a print flaking problem with my old HP laser which has a fairly new 
> toner cartridge. I have a set of brand new Office Depot labels.
> 
> I intend to try a “fixative” on them to see if that will help.
> 
> Any other suggestions?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Happy Christmas!
> 
> -Tom
> 
> 

Hi Tom,

Are your labels "laser" labels?  

Gareth


Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?

2023-12-02 Thread Tom Browder
On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 3:03 PM Dan Ritter  wrote:
> Brother has all those features, plus BRScript/3 and ethernet. I
> buy them for work where they tend to last about 8-10 years of high-volume 
> work.

Thanks, Dan. I have owned a Brother between two of my HPs.

I'll keep an eye out for one.

Blessings to all.

-Tom



Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?

2023-12-02 Thread Dan Ritter
Tom Browder wrote: 
> On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 2:18 PM Donald Mac Dougall  wrote:
> If I do need a new printer, I want another B laser, double
> sided-printing, copying,
> and scanning. Multiple paper trays for two sizes of paper would be nice.
> I have had great luck with HP over the years, but  I'm open to suggestions.


Brother has all those features, plus BRScript/3 and ethernet. I
buy them for work where they tend to last about 8-10 years of high-volume work.

Extra paper trays are expensive, but often compatible across 2
generations; consider EBay or Craigslist for more.

Recommended.

-dsr-



Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?

2023-12-02 Thread Donald Mac Dougall
My experience many years ago with HP laser printers was that if the print 
flaked off it was because the fuser roller wasn't hot enough to fuse the toner 
to the paper.


From: Tom Browder 
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2023 11:36:52 AM
To: Debian Users ML 
Subject: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?

I’ve had a print flaking problem with my old HP laser which has a fairly new 
toner cartridge. I have a set of brand new Office Depot labels.

I intend to try a “fixative” on them to see if that will help.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks.

Happy Christmas!

-Tom




Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?

2023-12-02 Thread Tom Browder
On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 2:18 PM Donald Mac Dougall  wrote:
> My experience many years ago with HP laser printers was that if the print 
> flaked off
> it was because the fuser roller wasn't hot enough to fuse the toner to the 
> paper.

Yes, I've investigated that a bit. I had the same trouble with my
labels at a local UPS
store. The owner insisted his printers are in top shape. As I said,
these are fresh labels
and I don't have any trouble with printing on normal paper. I'll try a
fixative for now.

If I do need a new printer, I want another B laser, double
sided-printing, copying,
and scanning. Multiple paper trays for two sizes of paper would be nice.
I have had great luck with HP over the years, but  I'm open to suggestions.

Thanks, Donald.

-Tom



Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?

2023-12-02 Thread Tom Browder
I’ve had a print flaking problem with my old HP laser which has a fairly
new toner cartridge. I have a set of brand new Office Depot labels.

I intend to try a “fixative” on them to see if that will help.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks.

Happy Christmas!

-Tom