Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?
On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 1:46 PM D MacDougall wrote: > > On 12/4/23 16:52, Tom Browder wrote: > > > > HP printer and toner, Office Depot labels. > > > > I bought so hair spray and will try that. > > > > -Tom > > I just looked at Office Depot website and the only labels I see that are > for both laser and inkjet are an off brand. I see why you went for the > off brand, they are a whole lot cheaper than the Avery labels the same > size, but maybe this is why. 100 sheets for $13. Twice as many labels > for 1/3 the price. I might have tried them too. > > I really don't see how hairspray or any other liquid spray could do any > good. If you think it will seep under the toner and glue it down that > seems problematic to me and it might make the labels peel off. > Cellophane tape might work better. > > I think you said that you took the label to the UPS store and their > printer had the same problem so the problem is definitely the labels and > best just swallow hard and buy the Avery labels. (Or just write the > address with a ball point pen.) > > -Don Please take this discussion about paper adhesive private or to a suitable forum - it has not have anything to do with debian in a long time, I'm amazed it's still tolerated!
Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?
On 12/4/23 16:52, Tom Browder wrote: On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at 19:36 David Christensen wrote: ... Please confirm printer, toner cartridge, and labels are all HP. If so, I would contact HP. HP printer and toner, Office Depot labels. I bought so hair spray and will try that. -Tom I have an HP LaserJet printer and use generic toner catridges. HP multi-purpose paper and Avery labels work well. Retail store (Staples) branded supplies do not work as well. I suggest buying HP or Avery laser printer labels. David
Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?
On 12/4/23 16:52, Tom Browder wrote: HP printer and toner, Office Depot labels. I bought so hair spray and will try that. -Tom I just looked at Office Depot website and the only labels I see that are for both laser and inkjet are an off brand. I see why you went for the off brand, they are a whole lot cheaper than the Avery labels the same size, but maybe this is why. 100 sheets for $13. Twice as many labels for 1/3 the price. I might have tried them too. I really don't see how hairspray or any other liquid spray could do any good. If you think it will seep under the toner and glue it down that seems problematic to me and it might make the labels peel off. Cellophane tape might work better. I think you said that you took the label to the UPS store and their printer had the same problem so the problem is definitely the labels and best just swallow hard and buy the Avery labels. (Or just write the address with a ball point pen.) -Don
Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?
On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at 19:36 David Christensen wrote: ... > Please confirm printer, toner cartridge, and labels are all HP. If so, > I would contact HP. HP printer and toner, Office Depot labels. I bought so hair spray and will try that. -Tom
Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?
> On 3 Dec 2023, at 12:06, Gareth Evans wrote: > > ... I've never had a problem with laser-designated labels. I do have experience of toner falling off non-laser labels, so perhaps your laser labels are a duff batch, or perhaps they were mis-labelled :p G
Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?
On 12/3/23 04:05, Gareth Evans wrote: On 3 Dec 2023, at 11:39, Tom Browder wrote: On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 5:17 PM Gareth Evans wrote: Are your labels "laser" labels? Yes, DUAL INKJET and LASER OK. I don't have much experience of label printing, but I've never had a problem with laser-designated labels. I would probably try a different brand. I wouldn't imagine it's a hardware issue if the toner fuses properly to paper. What's the printer model and type of toner in use? Thanks Gareth +1 Please confirm printer, toner cartridge, and labels are all HP. If so, I would contact HP. David
Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?
> On 3 Dec 2023, at 11:39, Tom Browder wrote: > On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 5:17 PM Gareth Evans wrote: >> Are your labels "laser" labels? > > Yes, DUAL INKJET and LASER OK. I don't have much experience of label printing, but I've never had a problem with laser-designated labels. I would probably try a different brand. I wouldn't imagine it's a hardware issue if the toner fuses properly to paper. What's the printer model and type of toner in use? Thanks Gareth
Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?
On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at 2:01 AM David Christensen wrote: > I would not put anything through a laser printer unless it is > specifically rated for laser printers. Applying fixative to printer > labels before printing sounds like a good way to damage your equipment. > If anything, apply the fixative after printing. Of course.
Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?
On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 5:17 PM Gareth Evans wrote: > Are your labels "laser" labels? Yes, DUAL INKJET and LASER -Tom
Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?
On 12/2/23 15:16, Gareth Evans wrote: On 2 Dec 2023, at 19:37, Tom Browder wrote: I’ve had a print flaking problem with my old HP laser which has a fairly new toner cartridge. I have a set of brand new Office Depot labels. I intend to try a “fixative” on them to see if that will help. Any other suggestions? Thanks. Happy Christmas! -Tom Hi Tom, Are your labels "laser" labels? +1 I would not put anything through a laser printer unless it is specifically rated for laser printers. Applying fixative to printer labels before printing sounds like a good way to damage your equipment. If anything, apply the fixative after printing. David
Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?
> On 2 Dec 2023, at 19:37, Tom Browder wrote: > > I’ve had a print flaking problem with my old HP laser which has a fairly new > toner cartridge. I have a set of brand new Office Depot labels. > > I intend to try a “fixative” on them to see if that will help. > > Any other suggestions? > > Thanks. > > Happy Christmas! > > -Tom > > Hi Tom, Are your labels "laser" labels? Gareth
Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?
On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 3:03 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > Brother has all those features, plus BRScript/3 and ethernet. I > buy them for work where they tend to last about 8-10 years of high-volume > work. Thanks, Dan. I have owned a Brother between two of my HPs. I'll keep an eye out for one. Blessings to all. -Tom
Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?
Tom Browder wrote: > On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 2:18 PM Donald Mac Dougall wrote: > If I do need a new printer, I want another B laser, double > sided-printing, copying, > and scanning. Multiple paper trays for two sizes of paper would be nice. > I have had great luck with HP over the years, but I'm open to suggestions. Brother has all those features, plus BRScript/3 and ethernet. I buy them for work where they tend to last about 8-10 years of high-volume work. Extra paper trays are expensive, but often compatible across 2 generations; consider EBay or Craigslist for more. Recommended. -dsr-
Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?
My experience many years ago with HP laser printers was that if the print flaked off it was because the fuser roller wasn't hot enough to fuse the toner to the paper. From: Tom Browder Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2023 11:36:52 AM To: Debian Users ML Subject: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative? I’ve had a print flaking problem with my old HP laser which has a fairly new toner cartridge. I have a set of brand new Office Depot labels. I intend to try a “fixative” on them to see if that will help. Any other suggestions? Thanks. Happy Christmas! -Tom
Re: Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?
On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 2:18 PM Donald Mac Dougall wrote: > My experience many years ago with HP laser printers was that if the print > flaked off > it was because the fuser roller wasn't hot enough to fuse the toner to the > paper. Yes, I've investigated that a bit. I had the same trouble with my labels at a local UPS store. The owner insisted his printers are in top shape. As I said, these are fresh labels and I don't have any trouble with printing on normal paper. I'll try a fixative for now. If I do need a new printer, I want another B laser, double sided-printing, copying, and scanning. Multiple paper trays for two sizes of paper would be nice. I have had great luck with HP over the years, but I'm open to suggestions. Thanks, Donald. -Tom
Print flakes off mailing labels, use a fixative?
I’ve had a print flaking problem with my old HP laser which has a fairly new toner cartridge. I have a set of brand new Office Depot labels. I intend to try a “fixative” on them to see if that will help. Any other suggestions? Thanks. Happy Christmas! -Tom