Re: Problems installing Debian

2021-02-20 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 20 Feb 2021 16:00:09 -0800
"M.R.P. zensky"  wrote:

> One problem that I am having is the Debian install menu asks for if I
> use a network card. I don’t I use home based wifi which I don’t see
> an option for this.

Debian considers wifi to be just another network card.

However, many wifi cards require a special proprietary program, called
firmware. These do not fit the Debian ideals, so they come separately.
If your wifi card requires proprietary firmware, you may have to copy
that onto your Debian computer manually.

Let us know what kind of wifi card you have. As root, run

lspci

Copy and paste the results into an email. Then we can help you further.

> The other problem is that it asks for a proxy for adding a
> repository.  I don’t know what to do with this either.

Ignore this.

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Re: Problems installing Debian

2021-02-20 Thread David Wright
On Sat 20 Feb 2021 at 16:00:09 (-0800), M.R.P. zensky wrote:
>  Hello I have successfully installed ubuntu linux on my system but I want to 
> use Debian. I download the iso file from their home page. One problem that I 
> am having is the Debian install menu asks for if I use a network card. I 
> don’t I use home based wifi which I don’t see an option for this. The other 
> problem is that it asks for a proxy for adding a repository.  I don’t know 
> what to do with this either. How do you connect Debian to my home wifi?

If you downloaded a file with firmware included, like
firmware-10.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso, then the wifi will normally
be detected, and you can choose the wl… interface.

However, if the firmware version wasn't chosen, then you can
install Debian using the firmware from your ubuntu system. If you
 # dmesg | grep firmware
or
 $ sudo dmesg | grep firmware
on the ubuntu system, the firmware that was required will be listed
there. Copy the corresponding files from the /lib/firmware/… tree
onto a USB stick, preferably at top level, and plug the stick in
after you've started the Debian installation. The installer should
then find it at the appropriate time.

Ignore the proxy field: it's optional.

Cheers,
David.



Re: Problems installing Debian

2021-02-20 Thread IL Ka
If Debian can't detect your network card, I suggest using Debian DVD iso to
install Debian, and then deal with the network card.
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/
You need "debian-10.8.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso". It can be used to install Debian
without a network connection.

You do not need to provide a proxy. Just leave this field blank.

After successful installation, check that you can log into your system, and
google " + Debian" or check this wiki:
https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi

You can also write the name of this card to this list: someone may be able
to help you.



On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 3:06 AM M.R.P. zensky 
wrote:

>  Hello I have successfully installed ubuntu linux on my system but I want
> to use Debian. I download the iso file from their home page. One problem
> that I am having is the Debian install menu asks for if I use a network
> card. I don’t I use home based wifi which I don’t see an option for this.
> The other problem is that it asks for a proxy for adding a repository.  I
> don’t know what to do with this either. How do you connect Debian to my
> home wifi?
>


Problems installing Debian

2021-02-20 Thread M.R.P. zensky
 Hello I have successfully installed ubuntu linux on my system but I want to 
use Debian. I download the iso file from their home page. One problem that I am 
having is the Debian install menu asks for if I use a network card. I don’t I 
use home based wifi which I don’t see an option for this. The other problem is 
that it asks for a proxy for adding a repository.  I don’t know what to do with 
this either. How do you connect Debian to my home wifi?


Re: Problems installing debian on Dell 530 with unrecognized NIC

2008-04-10 Thread mike

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 08:01:37AM -0700, Dan Turk wrote:
  

I need to get advice / help on how to best go about installing debian on a Dell 
530 Intel Core 2 Quad-core machine for which the debian installer does not 
recognize the Intel 82562V-2 Network Interface Card.
   
  A couple questions:
   
  1. Should I be using i386 or amd64 for this machine, to take best

advantage of the 4 cores and the 8 Gb of RAM I have in the machine?



probably amd64, though it's not completely there yet, unless you
specifically need something from i386, I don't see any reason *not* to
go to amd64. and it saves you from converting later...

  
   
  2. How can I get the NIC to be recognized?  I've seen many postings on the net saying to download Intel's e1000 driver and install that.  However, at first my install had no compiler tools - based on doing a netinstall of 40r3 and proceeding with no NIC.  Some of the postings said to use the unstable 2.6.24... version, which had the drivers included, but I can't seem to find where to get that.  So, I burned the first stable 40r3 DVD and installed from that, but now I don't have development tools for the kernel / modules.  I'm currently burning the other DVDs, and am hoping then I'll have all the resources I need to install the driver, but it seems that there must be a much easier way to do this...!
   



the short answer is to stick a known good NIC in the box and get up
and running then you can proceed to work on the onboard nic working. 


from my brief searching it appears (as of Aug 07) that there are no
plans to put the code for that nic in the kernel tree, you have to
build the driver from e1000.sourceforge.net. If you have access to
another machine of the same archictecture, you can build the module
there, stick it on a disk and then switch to a VT during install and
insert the module from there. Might work.


A
  

When I tried etch, the hard drive and the ethernet card were not recognized.
I got the newest install CD for lenny and the harddrive was recognized, 
but still no ethernet.  I then  put a  e100  card in and the install 
went fine.  After the install and upgrades, I plugged the onboard card 
back in and everything seems to be working fine, so somewhere it has 
been added to the kernel.
My Dell 530 has a Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  E2160  @ 1.80GHz.  I am 
running the i386 debian.

-mike


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Re: Problems installing debian on Dell 530 with unrecognized NIC

2008-04-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 06:56:10AM -0400, mike wrote:
 Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 08:01:37AM -0700, Dan Turk wrote:
   
 I need to get advice / help on how to best go about installing
 debian on a Dell 530 Intel Core 2 Quad-core machine for which the
 debian installer does not recognize the Intel 82562V-2 Network
 Interface Card.

...
  2. How can I get the NIC to be recognized?  I've seen many 
 postings on the net saying to download Intel's e1000 driver and 
 install that.  However, at first my install had no compiler tools - 
 based on doing a netinstall of 40r3 and proceeding with no NIC.  Some 
 of the postings said to use the unstable 2.6.24... version, which had 
 the drivers included, but I can't seem to find where to get that.  
 So, I burned the first stable 40r3 DVD and installed from that, but 
 now I don't have development tools for the kernel / modules.  I'm 
 currently burning the other DVDs, and am hoping then I'll have all 
 the resources I need to install the driver, but it seems that there 
 must be a much easier way to do this...!


 the short answer is to stick a known good NIC in the box and get up
 and running then you can proceed to work on the onboard nic working. 

 from my brief searching it appears (as of Aug 07) that there are no
 plans to put the code for that nic in the kernel tree, you have to
 build the driver from e1000.sourceforge.net. 

...

   
 When I tried etch, the hard drive and the ethernet card were not recognized.
 I got the newest install CD for lenny and the harddrive was recognized,  
 but still no ethernet.  I then  put a  e100  card in and the install  
 went fine.  After the install and upgrades, I plugged the onboard card  
 back in and everything seems to be working fine, so somewhere it has  
 been added to the kernel.
 My Dell 530 has a Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  E2160  @ 1.80GHz.  I am  
 running the i386 debian.

sounds like the installer's kernel doesn't have the e1000 module but
the installed kernel does. 

A


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Re: Problems installing debian on Dell 530 with unrecognized NIC

2008-04-10 Thread Dan Turk
Thanks to those of you who sent ideas on solving this problem.
   
  I only tried one idea - get the daily unstable / testing build.  I downloaded 
the amd64-netinst build from yesterday, Apr 9, and it recognized the NIC with 
no problem.  I still have some things to get configured, but it could talk to 
the Net no problem.  Apparently the current stable build just doesn't have the 
drivers for the Intel 82562V-2 Network Interface Card included...
   
  Dan

mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 08:01:37AM -0700, Dan Turk wrote:
 
 I need to get advice / help on how to best go about installing debian on a 
 Dell 530 Intel Core 2 Quad-core machine for which the debian installer does 
 not recognize the Intel 82562V-2 Network Interface Card.
 
 A couple questions:
 
 1. Should I be using i386 or amd64 for this machine, to take best
 advantage of the 4 cores and the 8 Gb of RAM I have in the machine?
 

 probably amd64, though it's not completely there yet, unless you
 specifically need something from i386, I don't see any reason *not* to
 go to amd64. and it saves you from converting later...

 
 
 2. How can I get the NIC to be recognized? I've seen many postings on the 
 net saying to download Intel's e1000 driver and install that. However, at 
 first my install had no compiler tools - based on doing a netinstall of 40r3 
 and proceeding with no NIC. Some of the postings said to use the unstable 
 2.6.24... version, which had the drivers included, but I can't seem to find 
 where to get that. So, I burned the first stable 40r3 DVD and installed from 
 that, but now I don't have development tools for the kernel / modules. I'm 
 currently burning the other DVDs, and am hoping then I'll have all the 
 resources I need to install the driver, but it seems that there must be a 
 much easier way to do this...!
 
 

 the short answer is to stick a known good NIC in the box and get up
 and running then you can proceed to work on the onboard nic working. 

 from my brief searching it appears (as of Aug 07) that there are no
 plans to put the code for that nic in the kernel tree, you have to
 build the driver from e1000.sourceforge.net. If you have access to
 another machine of the same archictecture, you can build the module
 there, stick it on a disk and then switch to a VT during install and
 insert the module from there. Might work.


 A
 
When I tried etch, the hard drive and the ethernet card were not recognized.
I got the newest install CD for lenny and the harddrive was recognized, 
but still no ethernet. I then put a e100 card in and the install 
went fine. After the install and upgrades, I plugged the onboard card 
back in and everything seems to be working fine, so somewhere it has 
been added to the kernel.
My Dell 530 has a Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2160 @ 1.80GHz. I am 
running the i386 debian.
-mike


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Problems installing debian on Dell 530 with unrecognized NIC

2008-04-09 Thread Dan Turk
I need to get advice / help on how to best go about installing debian on a Dell 
530 Intel Core 2 Quad-core machine for which the debian installer does not 
recognize the Intel 82562V-2 Network Interface Card.
   
  A couple questions:
   
  1. Should I be using i386 or amd64 for this machine, to take best advantage 
of the 4 cores and the 8 Gb of RAM I have in the machine?
   
  2. How can I get the NIC to be recognized?  I've seen many postings on the 
net saying to download Intel's e1000 driver and install that.  However, at 
first my install had no compiler tools - based on doing a netinstall of 40r3 
and proceeding with no NIC.  Some of the postings said to use the unstable 
2.6.24... version, which had the drivers included, but I can't seem to find 
where to get that.  So, I burned the first stable 40r3 DVD and installed from 
that, but now I don't have development tools for the kernel / modules.  I'm 
currently burning the other DVDs, and am hoping then I'll have all the 
resources I need to install the driver, but it seems that there must be a much 
easier way to do this...!
   
  Thanks in advance for your help and pointers.
   
  Dan

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Re: Problems installing debian on Dell 530 with unrecognized NIC

2008-04-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 08:01:37AM -0700, Dan Turk wrote:
 I need to get advice / help on how to best go about installing debian on a 
 Dell 530 Intel Core 2 Quad-core machine for which the debian installer does 
 not recognize the Intel 82562V-2 Network Interface Card.

   A couple questions:

   1. Should I be using i386 or amd64 for this machine, to take best
 advantage of the 4 cores and the 8 Gb of RAM I have in the machine?

probably amd64, though it's not completely there yet, unless you
specifically need something from i386, I don't see any reason *not* to
go to amd64. and it saves you from converting later...


   2. How can I get the NIC to be recognized?  I've seen many postings on the 
 net saying to download Intel's e1000 driver and install that.  However, at 
 first my install had no compiler tools - based on doing a netinstall of 40r3 
 and proceeding with no NIC.  Some of the postings said to use the unstable 
 2.6.24... version, which had the drivers included, but I can't seem to find 
 where to get that.  So, I burned the first stable 40r3 DVD and installed from 
 that, but now I don't have development tools for the kernel / modules.  I'm 
 currently burning the other DVDs, and am hoping then I'll have all the 
 resources I need to install the driver, but it seems that there must be a 
 much easier way to do this...!


the short answer is to stick a known good NIC in the box and get up
and running then you can proceed to work on the onboard nic working. 

from my brief searching it appears (as of Aug 07) that there are no
plans to put the code for that nic in the kernel tree, you have to
build the driver from e1000.sourceforge.net. If you have access to
another machine of the same archictecture, you can build the module
there, stick it on a disk and then switch to a VT during install and
insert the module from there. Might work.


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Problems installing Debian 4.0

2007-08-20 Thread Alexander Thiel
Hello,

I am trying to install a Debian from a 4.0r0 netinst CD-Image. The
installation fails reproducibly, however.

I believe that this is due to the package file_4.17-etch2 being
present on both the regular distribution server and the security
server - but with different checksums!

Please compare the entries for the packages file and libmagic1 in 

ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/etch/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
 

and 

ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz

Am I missing something or is there really a misconfiguration in the
current Debian archive?

Cheers,
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Re: Problems installing Debian 4.0

2007-08-20 Thread Sven Joachim
Alexander Thiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am trying to install a Debian from a 4.0r0 netinst CD-Image. The
 installation fails reproducibly, however.

 I believe that this is due to the package file_4.17-etch2 being
 present on both the regular distribution server and the security
 server - but with different checksums!

 Please compare the entries for the packages file and libmagic1 in 

 ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/etch/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
  

 and 

 ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz

 Am I missing something or is there really a misconfiguration in the
 current Debian archive?

You seem to be right, this has been reported in
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=438626.  If the whole
installation fails, you may want to increase the severity to
critical.

A possible workaround is to disable the security server during the
installation, you probably can re-add it after the base system is
installed. 

Cheers,
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Re: Problems installing Debian on old laptop

2006-05-02 Thread Jon Dowland
At 1146526816 past the epoch, Piers Kittel wrote:
 Anyway, I've put the old 3GB hard drive back in, installed
 Windows 98 on, and Debian boots up (with the default 2.6
 kernel with no parameters whatsover) and installing fine
 right now without any problems.  Probably some BIOS
 limitation with the 40GB hard drive but then again,
 Win2k/Knoppix doesn't have any problem with it.

It is almost certainly a kernel issue. You say default 2.6
kernel - the default kernel used for sarge installations is
2.4, iirc. Did you explicitly specify 2.6 when attempting
the second (successful) time?  What about the first?

If this list doesn't help, there is a debian list
specifically for laptop issues called debian-laptop that may
be of use.

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Re: Problems installing Debian on old laptop

2006-05-01 Thread Piers Kittel

To those who helped me,

Thanks very much for all your advice, but I've tried all options to 
disable everything but they're kernel parameters which aren't taken in 
consideration that early I think?  It stops exactly at the point right 
after uncompressing the kernel - it looks like a bit like trying to run 
a 686 compiled kernel on a 486.


Anyway, I've put the old 3GB hard drive back in, installed Windows 98 
on, and Debian boots up (with the default 2.6 kernel with no parameters 
whatsover) and installing fine right now without any problems.  Probably 
some BIOS limitation with the 40GB hard drive but then again, 
Win2k/Knoppix doesn't have any problem with it.


Never mind, I'm going to have to live with Windows 98 and Debian on a 
tiny hard drive :)


Thanks to all again very much for your help - but I still would like to 
know how to install Debian on the 40GB hard drive.


Regards - Piers


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Re: Problems installing Debian on old laptop

2006-04-17 Thread Chris Lale

Piers Kittel wrote:


Andrei  Adam,


On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 19:25:45 -0500
Adam Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Piers Kittel wrote:

When trying to boot Debian (using the 3.1 r0 netboot CD) to 
install, it

won't work at all:



I recommend trying the newer testing netboot installer CDs, rather 
than the

Sarge r0 one.  It might help.



Or maybe Sarge r1

Andrei




Tried the Sarge r1a netinst CD, and the etch testing netinst CD - both 
had the exact same problem, nothing happens after Ready. but after 
removing the hard drive from the laptop, it boots up fine though 
obviously I can't install without a hard drive.


Thanks very much for your help again in advance.

Regards - Piers


I wonder whether it would be worth checking the CDROM device in Knoppix 
(/dev/???). I think that some laptops access the cd as though it were a 
floppy.


Perhaps you could boot from boot floppies and then continue with the CD 
or network? http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en


If you have USB you could try Installing Debian Sarge from a USB memory 
stick (USB key) at http://d-i.pascal.at/


Chris


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Re: Problems installing Debian on old laptop

2006-04-17 Thread Bruno Buys
On 4/17/06, Chris Lale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Piers Kittel wrote: Andrei  Adam, On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 19:25:45 -0500 Adam Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Piers Kittel wrote: When trying to boot Debian (using the 3.1 r0 netboot CD) to install, it won't work at all:
 I recommend trying the newer testing netboot installer CDs, rather than the Sarge r0 one.It might help.
 Or maybe Sarge r1 Andrei Tried the Sarge r1a netinst CD, and the etch testing netinst CD - both had the exact same problem, nothing happens after Ready. but after
 removing the hard drive from the laptop, it boots up fine though obviously I can't install without a hard drive. Thanks very much for your help again in advance. Regards - Piers
I wonder whether it would be worth checking the CDROM device in Knoppix(/dev/???). I think that some laptops access the cd as though it were afloppy.Perhaps you could boot from boot floppies and then continue with the CD
or network? http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.enIf you have USB you could try Installing Debian Sarge from a USB memory
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Re: Problems installing Debian on old laptop

2006-04-15 Thread Adam Porter
Piers Kittel wrote:

 When trying to boot Debian (using the 3.1 r0 netboot CD) to install, it
won't work at all:

I recommend trying the newer testing netboot installer CDs, rather than the
Sarge r0 one.  It might help.


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Re: Problems installing Debian on old laptop

2006-04-15 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 19:25:45 -0500
Adam Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Piers Kittel wrote:
 
  When trying to boot Debian (using the 3.1 r0 netboot CD) to install, it
 won't work at all:
 
 I recommend trying the newer testing netboot installer CDs, rather than the
 Sarge r0 one.  It might help.

Or maybe Sarge r1

Andrei
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Re: Problems installing Debian on old laptop

2006-04-15 Thread Mitja Podreka

Piers Kittel wrote:


[sic]


When trying to boot Debian (using the 3.1 r0 netboot CD) to install, 
it won't work at all:


==
Booting from CD-ROM

ISOLINUX 2.04 2003-04-16 Copyright (C) 1994-2003 H. Peter Anvin

Press F1 for help, or ENTER to boot:
Loading /install/vmlinuz..
Loading /install/initrd.gz..
Ready.
==



When I was instaling Debian on my laptop it crashed somewhere near as 
you mentioned (I don't remember exactly). The solution was adding noapic 
kernel option at boot time:

boot:  linux noapic

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Re: Problems installing Debian on old laptop

2006-04-15 Thread Piers Kittel

Andrei  Adam,


On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 19:25:45 -0500
Adam Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Piers Kittel wrote:


When trying to boot Debian (using the 3.1 r0 netboot CD) to install, it
won't work at all:


I recommend trying the newer testing netboot installer CDs, rather than the
Sarge r0 one.  It might help.


Or maybe Sarge r1

Andrei


Tried the Sarge r1a netinst CD, and the etch testing netinst CD - both 
had the exact same problem, nothing happens after Ready. but after 
removing the hard drive from the laptop, it boots up fine though 
obviously I can't install without a hard drive.


Thanks very much for your help again in advance.

Regards - Piers


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Problems installing Debian on old laptop

2006-04-14 Thread Piers Kittel

Hello all,

Am trying to install Debian on a fairly old laptop (manufactured 1998), 
as I've broken my old one (flying hard drives and laptop LCD's doesn't 
mix well together) and can't afford a new one right now. The laptop is a 
Pico Systems (long since gone out of business - good riddance) 
Silvernote with the following spec:


Mobile P1 MMX 233MHz (I have a P2 233MHz processor that fits but the 
case/processor fan has failed, so have gone back to old CPU to prevent 
overheating)

192 MB RAM upgraded from 128MB (maxed out)
40GB IBM Travelstar hard drive (upgraded from 3GB) dated Dec 2002
430TX chipset
PIIX4 southbridge
NeoMagic MagicGraph 128XD video chipset
Latest possible BIOS (either 8th March 1999 or 3rd August 1999)

I've tried Knoppix 3.8.1 and it works perfectly fine (if a bit slow). 
I've installed Windows 2000 on it and it works perfectly fine.  When 
trying to boot Debian (using the 3.1 r0 netboot CD) to install, it won't 
work at all:


==
Booting from CD-ROM

ISOLINUX 2.04 2003-04-16 Copyright (C) 1994-2003 H. Peter Anvin

Press F1 for help, or ENTER to boot:
Loading /install/vmlinuz..
Loading /install/initrd.gz..
Ready.
==

and at this point it crashes completely.  Pressing ctrl_alt+del works 
fine though.  I've tried the CD-ROM in my broken laptop and it boots up 
fine, and I've tried a few Debian install CD-ROMs in the laptop and same 
problem.


I tried booting Ubuntu (as a test, I much prefer to use Debian on such 
an old laptop) and it works fine, and I was able to install Ubuntu 
successfully on the laptop but when I reboot for the first time, GRUB 
crashes when loading itself (i.e. before displaying the kernel list)


I just found out right now if I remove the hard drive and try the 
install CD, it works perfectly fine.  Strange!


The hard drive is laid out as follows:

/dev/hda1 9.8gb windows
/dev/hda2 27GB linux
/dev/hda3 361MB (I assume swap - Ubuntu chose the partitions)

with no more free space or partitions anywhere.

So what am I doing wrong and how do I fix this problem please?

Thanks very much for your help in advance!

Regards - Piers


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Problems installing Debian Linux 3.0r2 on a sun ultra5 (ultrassparc II)

2004-08-04 Thread Roland Egger
Hi,
sorry about that my last short subject line. I try it now again with
a more precise subject line.

I had a problem installing linux on a ultra5 with solaris 2.7 and solaris 2.8
on it. I had created the 5th partiton for linux and the 6th for the linux
swap partiton (= hda5 / for linux with ext2 and hda6 for swap).
Everything went ok until the task to make the system bootable.

There were 3 possibilities:
1. Make the system bootable
2. Boot floppy
3. Alternate1

Because the first possibility would overwrite my bootblock for
Solaris I tried to make a boot floppy for linux but
without success. I've read somewhere that could
be a problem with some ultrasparc machines like ultra5/10.
I thought alternate1 wouldn't change the boot behaviour but I was wrong.
The Debian linux installation has overwritten my boot block for solaris.
I wasn't asked if I wanted to install SILO there and I don't know
a reason for installing it on an other partition than my linux partition
(/dev/hda5) but it has happened somehow ...
The funny thing was that with alternate1 I can't start solaris and
I can't start linux. There wasn't a possibility for me not to corrupt
my boot block with SILO from Debian, that should and need not be.
The easiest thing would be to add a possibility which calls
silo -t
or silo -r /mnt -t
or something like that.

It was really nasty to repair the thing.
Just using dd from a rescue disk and deleting the first sector like:

# make a backup of the boot sector
dd if=/dev/hda1 of=boot_512.sonne bs=512 count=1
# clean the boot sector
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda1 bs=512 count=1

doesn't work. The first sector just contain the disk lable and partition
information. The boot block on sparc machines are the next 15 sectors
or something like that.

The only possibility for me was to start the solaris installation cd.
During the installation process Openwin is started and there I got a shell
to run
installboot /usr/platform/`uname -i`/lib/fs/ufs/bootblk /dev/rdsk/c0t0d0s0

With silo -t I had managed it to be able to get SILO just to my
linux partition and boot it with
boot disk:e

I've read that there should be soon a new GNU Debian version and
it would be great if there's an easy possiblity to install
with -t option.
OpenBoot is really an easy and nice possibility to boot several
operating systems, so just booting into SILO isn't nice in every
case especially if solaris or bsd is used, too.
GNU Debian is a really nice linux but it would be even nicer if
the installation process of silo or maybe grub let the user the
possibility to still use OpenBoot for the other operating systems.

I hope the description of my problems can help other people to
solve them without having much trouble installing linux parallel
to sparc solaris.
Maybe there's a better solution in the new soon coming Debian 
Linux and maybe there are other better solution of installing 
Debian on sparc but I try a short abstract:
At the boot loader installation just select 
Make system bootable 
= the boot block of solaris can be overwritten
but this isn't problematic if you have the solaris 
installation CDs.
After completing the linux installation run
silo -t
Then boot the solaris CDs and run e.g.
installboot /usr/platform/`uname -i`/lib/fs/ufs/bootblk /dev/rdsk/c0t0d0s0
for installing the solaris boo block on the first partition on an ide
disk.
Now you can boot Solaris and linux again without configure silo.conf
Kind regards
  Roland

 

 which had problems installing linux
on there sparc machine parallel to solaris
I hope this description of my problems may help other people during
there linux i

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Re: Problems installing Debian on PIII using Adaptec 2400A RAID 5 array as boot drive

2004-03-22 Thread Robert Gray
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 Derek Chew En-Hock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 let me get you straight, first I repeat the Debian Installation as
 I previously did from the original Woody CDs (Boot of CD, Use
 Modules Floppy to access RAID Array, Install Debian but don't
 reboot)...

This seemed to be the last post in this thread and I assumed that 
this might have some chance of working but I could not get it to be 
so. The woody install CD's don't appear to support jumping out and 
being able to compile a kernel (not really surprising).

What you can do however is copy the dpt_i2o.o module from the floppy 
(http://people.debian.org/~blade/install/preload/ I already had a 
copy from prior to the break in) to /lib/../scsi/ by invoking a 
shell. I had several goes at this as it's not exactly obvious where 
to do it and once done it breaks the flow of the install process.

Once done you can boot from the 2400a (or presumably whatever card 
you have) and compile a kernel in the normal way.

Hopefully this will help others. Bring on Sarge





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Re: Problems installing Debian on PIII using Adaptec 2400A RAID 5 array as boot drive

2003-09-09 Thread Derek Chew En-Hock

With a heavy heart, I attempted install Redhat 9 on my machine and it
automatically detected the Adaptec 2400A and installed flawlessly... I
guess installing Debian on this machine maybe beyond my current
abilities...

Does anyone know of a way I can extract the drivers from the Redhat
disc or boot disc and use it to help in the Debian Installation? feel
a little uncomfortable moving away from my comfy Debian machines...

DCEH I still having big problems with this machine... I tried redoing the
DCEH setup again this time using EXT3 for the root partition incase I
DCEH messed up something else but still no go... did quite a fair bit of
DCEH google groups searching but no one else seems to have this issue...
DCEH don't tell me I have to give up using Debian on this machine???!!!


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Re: Problems installing Debian on PIII using Adaptec 2400A RAID 5 array as boot drive

2003-09-09 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 07:11, Derek Chew En-Hock wrote:
 With a heavy heart, I attempted install Redhat 9 on my machine and it
 automatically detected the Adaptec 2400A and installed flawlessly... I
 guess installing Debian on this machine maybe beyond my current
 abilities...
 
 Does anyone know of a way I can extract the drivers from the Redhat
 disc or boot disc and use it to help in the Debian Installation? feel
 a little uncomfortable moving away from my comfy Debian machines...

You need CONFIG_SCSI_DPT_I2O set in the kernel.

The woody install disks' bf24 kernel does not have this included, so you
need to build a kernel for it.  If the RAID card has the only disks,
this gives you a bootstrapping problem; I can provide you with a
kernel-image deb for such a kernel, but you would need to be in a
position to run dpkg in order to make use of it.

I had to build a new bootable CD in order to get Debian loaded onto the
machine in question.

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Re: Problems installing Debian on PIII using Adaptec 2400A RAID 5 array as boot drive

2003-09-09 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 09:39:48 +0100, 
Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 07:11, Derek Chew En-Hock wrote:
  With a heavy heart, I attempted install Redhat 9 on my machine and
  it automatically detected the Adaptec 2400A and installed
  flawlessly... I guess installing Debian on this machine maybe beyond
  my current abilities...
  
  Does anyone know of a way I can extract the drivers from the Redhat
  disc or boot disc and use it to help in the Debian Installation?
  feel a little uncomfortable moving away from my comfy Debian
  machines...
 
 You need CONFIG_SCSI_DPT_I2O set in the kernel.
 
 The woody install disks' bf24 kernel does not have this included, so
 you need to build a kernel for it.  If the RAID card has the only
 disks, this gives you a bootstrapping problem; I can provide you with
 a kernel-image deb for such a kernel, but you would need to be in a
 position to run dpkg in order to make use of it.
 
 I had to build a new bootable CD in order to get Debian loaded onto
 the machine in question.

..Oliver, would your boot image cover software raid setups too?  And 
install from network?  Say from a lan mirror?  If so, image url?  ;-)

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Re: Problems installing Debian on PIII using Adaptec 2400A RAID 5 array as boot drive

2003-09-09 Thread Oliver Elphick
You wrote:
 ..Oliver, would your boot image cover software raid setups too?  And
 install from network?  Say from a lan mirror?  If so, image url?  ;-)

Sorry; it was a specific build for a hardware RAID machine.

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Re: Problems installing Debian on PIII using Adaptec 2400A RAID 5 array as boot drive

2003-09-09 Thread Derek Chew En-Hock
Hello Oliver,

good to hear from you again...

let me get you straight, first I repeat the Debian Installation as I
previously did from the original Woody CDs (Boot of CD, Use Modules
Floppy to access RAID Array, Install Debian but don't reboot)...

then what I need to do is to transfer a copy of the Kernel Sources to
the Hard Disk and shell to command line from the Debian Installer and
do a recompile of the Kernel eh?

Anyway the machine is running Redhat now but everything seems to be in
wierd places now... going to do the Debian installation in a few
moments and hope to hear from you soon!

Thanks for looking into this for me!

Tuesday, September 9, 2003, 9:13:25 PM, you wrote:
OE It is a macro that is defined when building a kernel from source.  It is
OE in the SCSI low-level drivers section.

OE If the RAID array is the boot disk, you can't boot from it if its driver
OE is a module - the module must be built into the kernel.  Otherwise it
OE will try to read the module from the RAID, but it doesn't yet know how
OE to read the RAID... 

OE If you can make a boot floppy that works, the next stage is to install
OE kernel-source-2.4.21 and kernel-package, and configure, build and
OE install your new kernel.  But if you don't know anything about building
OE the kernel from source, you may need to read up on that first.




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Re: Problems installing Debian on PIII using Adaptec 2400A RAID 5 array as boot drive

2003-09-07 Thread Derek Chew En-Hock
Hey Guys,

I still having big problems with this machine... I tried redoing the
setup again this time using EXT3 for the root partition incase I
messed up something else but still no go... did quite a fair bit of
google groups searching but no one else seems to have this issue...
don't tell me I have to give up using Debian on this machine???!!!


DCEH Hi Everyone,

DCEH been using Debian for about 7 months now and loving every minute of
DCEH it... so far, I managed to install Debian on more than 10 machines
DCEH (some my own, some in the office and some for friends whom I'm trying
DCEH to encourage to use Linux) and so far besides some quirks, the
DCEH experience has been quite good... In fact, a few months ago, I shifted
DCEH from using my Win XP machine to my Debian Machine as my main machine
DCEH at home... while my XP Machine is just left for me to play EVE-online
DCEH :)

DCEH Anyway, recently I was handed a PIII Machine which has a 3 disk RAID 5
DCEH array created using an Adaptec 2400A IDE RAID Controller... I wanted
DCEH to install Debian on it for use as an Intranet Web Server for the
DCEH office... Well, I booted off the Debian 3.0 Disc 1, used the bf24
DCEH option and discovered that I could not find any hard drives on
DCEH board... looking around the USENET for clues, I found out that you
DCEH needed to use a floppy to load in the required modules to get Debian
DCEH to recognise the RAID Controller.. I managed to find a floppy image at
DCEH http://people.debian.org/~blade/install/preload/ and it managed to
DCEH allow my Debian installation to happily detect the RAID Controller...
DCEH I then proceeded to partition my disk as follows:

DCEH /dev/sda0 /boot ext2  700 MB
DCEH /dev/sda1 / Reisfer FS110 GB
DCEH /dev/sd3  SWAP1.2 GB

DCEH I set a swap partition to 1.2 GB as I have 512 Meg of RAM and I think
DCEH I read somewhere that you should have a swap partition with a minimum
DCEH of twice your available RAM right?

DCEH Anyway, I made /dev/sda0 bootable and rebooted the machine... what
DCEH greeted me was a blinking cursor and a beeping sound...

DCEH I also tried to reinstall and add the some RAID5 kernel modules during
DCEH the setup but that doesn't help either...

DCEH Any suggestions any one? Apparently there isn't much people on USENET
DCEH with 2400A Linux machines as I could only find a few posting and their
DCEH situations doesn't help mine much...

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Problems installing Debian on PIII using Adaptec 2400A RAID 5 array as boot drive

2003-09-04 Thread Derek Chew En-Hock

Hi Everyone,

been using Debian for about 7 months now and loving every minute of
it... so far, I managed to install Debian on more than 10 machines
(some my own, some in the office and some for friends whom I'm trying
to encourage to use Linux) and so far besides some quirks, the
experience has been quite good... In fact, a few months ago, I shifted
from using my Win XP machine to my Debian Machine as my main machine
at home... while my XP Machine is just left for me to play EVE-online
:)

Anyway, recently I was handed a PIII Machine which has a 3 disk RAID 5
array created using an Adaptec 2400A IDE RAID Controller... I wanted
to install Debian on it for use as an Intranet Web Server for the
office... Well, I booted off the Debian 3.0 Disc 1, used the bf24
option and discovered that I could not find any hard drives on
board... looking around the USENET for clues, I found out that you
needed to use a floppy to load in the required modules to get Debian
to recognise the RAID Controller.. I managed to find a floppy image at
http://people.debian.org/~blade/install/preload/ and it managed to
allow my Debian installation to happily detect the RAID Controller...
I then proceeded to partition my disk as follows:

/dev/sda0 /boot ext2  700 MB
/dev/sda1 / Reisfer FS110 GB
/dev/sd3  SWAP1.2 GB

I set a swap partition to 1.2 GB as I have 512 Meg of RAM and I think
I read somewhere that you should have a swap partition with a minimum
of twice your available RAM right?

Anyway, I made /dev/sda0 bootable and rebooted the machine... what
greeted me was a blinking cursor and a beeping sound...

I also tried to reinstall and add the some RAID5 kernel modules during
the setup but that doesn't help either...

Any suggestions any one? Apparently there isn't much people on USENET
with 2400A Linux machines as I could only find a few posting and their
situations doesn't help mine much...

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Re: Problems installing Debian on PIII using Adaptec 2400A RAID 5array as boot drive

2003-09-04 Thread Russell Shaw
Derek Chew En-Hock wrote:
Hi Everyone,

been using Debian for about 7 months now and loving every minute of
it... so far, I managed to install Debian on more than 10 machines
(some my own, some in the office and some for friends whom I'm trying
to encourage to use Linux) and so far besides some quirks, the
experience has been quite good... In fact, a few months ago, I shifted
from using my Win XP machine to my Debian Machine as my main machine
at home... while my XP Machine is just left for me to play EVE-online
:)
Anyway, recently I was handed a PIII Machine which has a 3 disk RAID 5
array created using an Adaptec 2400A IDE RAID Controller... I wanted
to install Debian on it for use as an Intranet Web Server for the
office... Well, I booted off the Debian 3.0 Disc 1, used the bf24
option and discovered that I could not find any hard drives on
board... looking around the USENET for clues, I found out that you
needed to use a floppy to load in the required modules to get Debian
to recognise the RAID Controller.. I managed to find a floppy image at
http://people.debian.org/~blade/install/preload/ and it managed to
allow my Debian installation to happily detect the RAID Controller...
I then proceeded to partition my disk as follows:
/dev/sda0 /boot ext2  700 MB
/dev/sda1 / Reisfer FS110 GB
/dev/sd3  SWAP1.2 GB
I set a swap partition to 1.2 GB as I have 512 Meg of RAM and I think
I read somewhere that you should have a swap partition with a minimum
of twice your available RAM right?
Anyway, I made /dev/sda0 bootable and rebooted the machine... what
greeted me was a blinking cursor and a beeping sound...
I also tried to reinstall and add the some RAID5 kernel modules during
the setup but that doesn't help either...
Any suggestions any one? Apparently there isn't much people on USENET
with 2400A Linux machines as I could only find a few posting and their
situations doesn't help mine much...
Perhaps it's a quirk of booting off scsi disks. Is the scsi card bootable?
Is the bios set right? Is the card driver available at boot-time using the
initrd system?
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Re: Problems installing Debian on PIII using Adaptec 2400A RAID 5 array as boot drive

2003-09-04 Thread Derek Chew En-Hock
Its actually a ATA RAID Card which uses DPTI2O Drivers... and I know its 
bootable as the machine used to be running Microsoft Small Business Server 
and it used the RAID Array as a boot disc... another thing is the Adaptec 
Diagnostic CD uses a strip down version of Linux to run... so I know that 
this card is definately supported... The BIOS should be set right...

as for whether the card driver is avaliable during bootup, I'm not too sure as 
it never reaches that stage to display any messages

On Thursday 04 September 2003 18:34, Russell Shaw wrote:
 Perhaps it's a quirk of booting off scsi disks. Is the scsi card bootable?
 Is the bios set right? Is the card driver available at boot-time using the
 initrd system?


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Problems Installing Debian with Fasttrak 378 / SATA150

2003-02-21 Thread Paulo Neves
Hello,

I've been on problems to install Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 Woody with bf24
kernel.

1. The install don't detect the chipset (FastTrak 378)or the hd.

System:
P4 2.4
Board Albatron 845PE Pro II with Promise Fasttrak 378 / SATA150
1 HD IBM 80GB IDE (is connected on the IDE of the Fasttrak)
The other 4 IDE of the board are already in use.

2. What I have tried.

I've disconnected all IDE from board with exception to the HD80GB and
one CDROM on /dev/hdc
When it boot up from CD I've tried 'Debian Promise FastTrak RAID HOWTO
by moyix - Monday, April 29th 2002 18:18 PST' without success.


3. I didn't try other distros and I don't want to.


4. What can I try? 


Thanks, 
Paulo Neves









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Problems installing Debian 3.0 (pre) Woody

2002-01-25 Thread sstallone
Hi everybody,

I think Debian is a great thing because it offers alot of packages (esp.
many, many games).

Unfortunately, I have problems installing Debian 3.0 (pre) Woody:

1) After inserting CD1, booting from it and pressing enter at the boot
prompt, it boots to the display of my drives (hda, hdc, hdd) which have been
correctly detected, but then my screen goes black and after a short time my
monitor switsches to stand-by mode. My system is freezed (hard-reset only)

2) Changed the setting AC 97 MODEM in my bios to off. Now it boots to the
message
md driver ...
and freezes.

3) Changed back my settings in the bios AC 97 MODEM to on. Same problem as
in 1)

Do you know any solution???

My system:

Elitegroup K7S5A
AMD Duron 1 GHz
512 MB DDR
40 GB IBM Harddisk (DTLA-305040)
DVD-ROM LG DRD-8160B
CD-WRITER LG GCE-8240B
TEAC Floppy
KYRO II graphicscard
Microsoft WheelMouse Optical

Thnx for every response
Chris



Problems installing Debian on Compaq Armada M700.

2001-08-09 Thread David Randelman



I seem to be having problems installing Debian on 
my laptop Compaq M700, there seems to be 2 problems:
1) It won't install a boot manager on the HD even 
though I have a dedicated H.D and even tried to partition a 10MB drive in the 
beginning of the disk just in case.
2) I can't access the parallel floppy drive which 
comes with Compaq- It accesses but has problems reading or writing.

I boot ok from the CD-ROM and I tried many 
different partition configurations.
Any ideas? Anyone else encounter this?
Cheers,
--David Randelman


Re: Problems installing Debian on Compaq Armada M700.

2001-08-09 Thread Michael Heldebrant
Do you have helpfull boot sector protection turned on in the BIOS of
the machine?  Are you loading the correct parallel port modules?  You'll
need parport and a bunch of other ones.  The kernel menuconfig should be
able to explain it to you better than I can pull it out of a hat.

--mike

On 09 Aug 2001 18:01:36 +0300, David Randelman wrote:
 I seem to be having problems installing Debian on my laptop Compaq M700, 
 there seems to be 2 problems:
 1) It won't install a boot manager on the HD even though I have a dedicated 
 H.D and even tried to partition a 10MB drive in the beginning of the disk 
 just in case.
 2) I can't access the parallel floppy drive which comes with Compaq- It 
 accesses but has problems reading or writing.
 
 I boot ok from the CD-ROM and I tried many different partition configurations.
 Any ideas? Anyone else encounter this?
 Cheers,
 --David Randelman




Re: Problems installing Debian on Compaq Armada M700.

2001-08-09 Thread Michael Heldebrant
You're welcome.  The rescue disk is simply a generic boot kernel to
get your system running.  Is your lilo.conf set to linear?  Are you root
when you try and update the boot sector?  What does the error say when
lilo can't install the boot sector.

On 09 Aug 2001 19:32:58 +0300, David Randelman wrote:
 Thanks for the tip. I know I don't have a boot sector protection, But on the
 other hand why should I have to have rescue disks at all?
 --David
 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Heldebrant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 7:14 PM
 Subject: Re: Problems installing Debian on Compaq Armada M700.
 
 
  Do you have helpfull boot sector protection turned on in the BIOS of
  the machine?  Are you loading the correct parallel port modules?  You'll
  need parport and a bunch of other ones.  The kernel menuconfig should be
  able to explain it to you better than I can pull it out of a hat.
 
  --mike
 
  On 09 Aug 2001 18:01:36 +0300, David Randelman wrote:
   I seem to be having problems installing Debian on my laptop Compaq M700,
 there seems to be 2 problems:
   1) It won't install a boot manager on the HD even though I have a
 dedicated H.D and even tried to partition a 10MB drive in the beginning of
 the disk just in case.
   2) I can't access the parallel floppy drive which comes with Compaq- It
 accesses but has problems reading or writing.
  
   I boot ok from the CD-ROM and I tried many different partition
 configurations.
   Any ideas? Anyone else encounter this?
   Cheers,
   --David Randelman
 
 
 
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Re: Problems installing Debian on Compaq Armada M700.

2001-08-09 Thread Fredrik Jagenheim
On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 06:01:36PM +0300, David Randelman wrote:
 I seem to be having problems installing Debian on my laptop Compaq
 M700, there seems to be 2 problems: 1) It won't install a boot
 manager on the HD even though I have a dedicated H.D and even tried
 to partition a 10MB drive in the beginning of the disk just in case.

Hum, I've installed Debian on my laptop (same make/model as yours) a
couple of times and never had this problem. Is it LILO that won't
start? Will it even install on it?
I partitioned my disk as follows
hda1HPFS/NTFS   (hardly used, but there for work reasons)
hda2Fat32   (To move files between win2k/Linux environment)
hda3ext2/boot
hda4extended
had5ext2/
hda6swap

 2) I can't access the parallel floppy drive which comes with Compaq-
 It accesses but has problems reading or writing.

Hum, haven't tried the floppy. Such outdated technology. ;)

//Fredde



Re: Problems installing Debian on Compaq Armada M700.

2001-08-09 Thread Rogério Brito
On Aug 09 2001, David Randelman wrote:
 1) It won't install a boot manager on the HD even though I have a
 dedicated H.D and even tried to partition a 10MB drive in the
 beginning of the disk just in case.

Which version of Debian are you trying to use? I think that if
the kernel used by the version you're trying to use is not
recent enough, then it will have problems partitioning the HD.

I just bought a used Compaq Armada V300 and it works well with
a RedHat 7.1 install that I made (although with some features
not being enabled for lack of drivers), but I'll soon be using
my usual modified/tweaked Debian with it.

What problems are you having, more specifically? I.e., which
messages does it issue?

 2) I can't access the parallel floppy drive which comes with Compaq-
 It accesses but has problems reading or writing.

Can't help you here. I have never used one of these devices
(in fact, I'm quite new to the laptop world).


[]s, Roger...

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Problems installing debian Potato 2.2r2 on an AMI MegaRAID

2001-03-10 Thread Rick Jansen - Tweakers.net
Hi there,

I'm trying to install Debian on an AMI MegaRAID Elite 1500. However, when
the CD boots up, it freezes after it detected the MegaRAID card (the line
showing IRQ etc). Is there any way to install Debian directly onto a drive
connected to this card, without using an IDE drive as targetdisk? I _really_
need to get this running :/

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Re: Problems installing Debian on a 486

1999-03-25 Thread G. Crimp
On Tue, Mar 23, 1999 at 03:03:28PM -0800, Alan Bailward wrote:
  other machine, it brings up the boot: prompt, and then starts to load the
  root FS from root.bin.. After loading for a while it fails with the message
  A20 gate not responding!...
 [snip]
  The problem machine is a 486DX33 with 8MB of RAM, if you need more info
  about the hardware, please let me know.
 
 Could it be that the kernel on the rescue disk was compiled for 586+?  Could
 that be causing it?  I'm grasping I know, but... :)
 
 alan, out on a limb.
 

The A20 line has something to do with working around a bug in memory
addressing that first showed up in 286's I think.  I don't really know much
about it, but on my 486, their is an option in the BIOS to set the line. 
You might try changing this option in the Bios at boot and see if it helps.

Gerald


Re: Problems installing Debian on a 486

1999-03-25 Thread Jonathan Guthrie
On Wed, 24 Mar 1999, G. Crimp wrote:

   The A20 line has something to do with working around a bug in memory
 addressing that first showed up in 286's I think.  I don't really know much
 about it, but on my 486, their is an option in the BIOS to set the line. 
 You might try changing this option in the Bios at boot and see if it helps.

The original 8088 had 20 address lines called A0 through A19.  This
allowed it to directly access 1024k of memory.  (It was split 640k/384k as
RAM/ROM.  It could have been worse, my understanding is that the original
plan was to split it half and half.  Oh, and the 8086 had 19 address lines
called A1 through A19.  I digress.)  Anyway, on the 8086's and 8088's you
could access the bottom 65520 bytes of RAM by setting the segment register
to the very top of RAM and using an offset larger than the amount of RAM
above the start of the segment register.

Anyway, along comes the 80286.  It has, in effect, 24 address lines (A0
through A23) for a total allowed memory of 16,384k.  That broke those
programs that relied upon the memory wrapping around.  Since they all ran
under DOS and since DOS was limited to 1024k, PC manufacturers put a
control in which would not pass the A20 line through to the RAM, which had
the effect of simulating the behavior of the 8086/8.  That's what the A20
gate is about.  You could run some DOS programs with the A20 gate disabled
that you couldn't run with it enabled.

You, of course, want to run a protected-mode operating system, where
relying on tricks like that simply cannot work.  Since many people also
wanted to run protected mode software, (to do things like loadhi and 
with extended memory and suchlike) the mboard manufacturers made that gate
configurable.

That's the whole story, to the best of my knowledge.
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Re: Problems installing Debian on a 486

1999-03-25 Thread Kenneth Scharf
There is one more thing.
On 286's and above when in real mode, if the segment register is set to
0x then the address's above 0x will overflow into address bit
a20 giving access to an additional 65k(-16 bytes) of memory in real
mode.  This was known as 'hi-mem' access and dos 4.0 and above used this
trick. (meant turning that a20 gate on to allow a20 through).
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Re: Problems installing Debian on a 486

1999-03-24 Thread frankie
Matthew Gregan wrote:
 
 At 15:03 1999-03-23 -0800, Alan Bailward wrote:
  other machine, it brings up the boot: prompt, and then starts to load the
  root FS from root.bin.. After loading for a while it fails with the message
  A20 gate not responding!...

I can't answer your question, BUT I can tell you this:
This is to do with protected mode, and the keyboard.
the only other time that I know of this occuring is occasionally with
himem.sys (xx-DOS) on older hardware. If it can't do this, HIMEM.SYS
uses some other handler - not sure how linux is meant to do this.

frankie
 [snip]
  The problem machine is a 486DX33 with 8MB of RAM, if you need more info
  about the hardware, please let me know.
 
 Could it be that the kernel on the rescue disk was compiled for 586+?  Could
 that be causing it?  I'm grasping I know, but... :)
 
 These are the rescue disks from the debian-slink disk-i386 dir... I'm
 pretty sure they're not using a kernel for 586+ architecture...
 
 I should also mention that someone suggested I try the tecra rescue disk. I
 did that, and had no luck... I get the same message, so now I'm really
 stumped, having read the readme for the tecra disk I would have though
 that'd fix the problem.
 
 Thanks again...
 
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Re: Problems installing Debian on a 486

1999-03-24 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: RE: Problems installing Debian on a 486
Date: Wed, Mar 24, 1999 at 11:43:47AM +1200

In reply to:Matthew Gregan

Quoting Matthew Gregan([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 At 15:03 1999-03-23 -0800, Alan Bailward wrote:
  other machine, it brings up the boot: prompt, and then starts to load the
  root FS from root.bin.. After loading for a while it fails with the message
  A20 gate not responding!...
 [snip]
  The problem machine is a 486DX33 with 8MB of RAM, if you need more info
  about the hardware, please let me know.
 
 Could it be that the kernel on the rescue disk was compiled for 586+?  Could
 that be causing it?  I'm grasping I know, but... :)
 
 These are the rescue disks from the debian-slink disk-i386 dir... I'm
 pretty sure they're not using a kernel for 586+ architecture...
 
 I should also mention that someone suggested I try the tecra rescue disk. I
 did that, and had no luck... I get the same message, so now I'm really
 stumped, having read the readme for the tecra disk I would have though
 that'd fix the problem.
 
 Thanks again... 
 
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Just had a light bulb go on.  I may be out in left field but I seem to
remember a bios option for the A20 gate in my old 486DX50.  You might
give that a look.

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Problems installing Debian on a 486

1999-03-23 Thread Matthew Gregan
Hi everyone.

I've got 2 old 486 machines here that I'm trying to install slink onto. One
of them is a Compaq Deskpro 486/33M and the other is built out of off the
shelf parts. I've managed to install onto the Compaq machine with no
problems whatsoever, but when I try to boot the rescue/install disk on the
other machine, it brings up the boot: prompt, and then starts to load the
root FS from root.bin.. After loading for a while it fails with the message
A20 gate not responding!...

I don't know what the problem is, so I was hoping someone could help me
out. I've tried turning off both processors caches in the BIOS, but that
made no difference... I can't see any BIOS entries relating to the A20
gate, so I haven't been able to experiment with that...

The problem machine is a 486DX33 with 8MB of RAM, if you need more info
about the hardware, please let me know.

Thanks in advance.


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RE: Problems installing Debian on a 486

1999-03-23 Thread Alan Bailward
 other machine, it brings up the boot: prompt, and then starts to load the
 root FS from root.bin.. After loading for a while it fails with the message
 A20 gate not responding!...
[snip]
 The problem machine is a 486DX33 with 8MB of RAM, if you need more info
 about the hardware, please let me know.

Could it be that the kernel on the rescue disk was compiled for 586+?  Could
that be causing it?  I'm grasping I know, but... :)

alan, out on a limb.

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RE: Problems installing Debian on a 486

1999-03-23 Thread Matthew Gregan
At 15:03 1999-03-23 -0800, Alan Bailward wrote:
 other machine, it brings up the boot: prompt, and then starts to load the
 root FS from root.bin.. After loading for a while it fails with the message
 A20 gate not responding!...
[snip]
 The problem machine is a 486DX33 with 8MB of RAM, if you need more info
 about the hardware, please let me know.

Could it be that the kernel on the rescue disk was compiled for 586+?  Could
that be causing it?  I'm grasping I know, but... :)

These are the rescue disks from the debian-slink disk-i386 dir... I'm
pretty sure they're not using a kernel for 586+ architecture...

I should also mention that someone suggested I try the tecra rescue disk. I
did that, and had no luck... I get the same message, so now I'm really
stumped, having read the readme for the tecra disk I would have though
that'd fix the problem.

Thanks again... 

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Problems installing Debian (2)

1998-10-12 Thread Alexander Bugeja
Just to clarify my previous post, I'm installing on a desktop
not laptop, and in any case i tried the tecra rescue disk,
also without any luck. I've been going through this list's
mail archives and it seems other people managed to clear
up problems similar to mine using those disks, but not me


Re: Problems installing Debian

1998-10-12 Thread Michael B. Taylor
I have never seen this particular behavior before.  However, strange
problems during installation from floppys is often attributable to 
corupt floppys.  The rawwrite or dd process usually used to make installation
floppys from downloaded images does not tolerate bad media very well.

I suggest remaking your rescue disk on a different floppy.  But first, check
the floppy for bad sectors by formatting it under dos or whatever, or any
other method you find convienient.  Even better, use a new floppy, if you 
have one handy, checking it for bad sectors first.

Hope this helps

Mike

On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 02:59:21PM -0500, Alexander Bugeja wrote:
 I am trying to install Debian from floppy (I have the rescue, driver
 and 5 base floppies set up) on my AMD K6 machine. However
 when I try to start the installation, with the rescue disk, the
 machine just reboots. More specifically, I first get the
 following messages
 
 Loading root.bin...
 Loading Linux...
 Uncompressing Linux
 
  followed by a string of messages too fast to read, and then
 the machine reboots all over again, leaving me right where I started.
 


Re: Problems installing Debian

1998-10-12 Thread Alexander Bugeja
Thanks for your reply. However I tried 3 different floppies, all without
success
- none of them has bad sectors either. I really don't think this is a
floppy 
problem.

Alex.


 I have never seen this particular behavior before.  However, strange
 problems during installation from floppys is often attributable to 
 corupt floppys.  The rawwrite or dd process usually used to make
installation
 floppys from downloaded images does not tolerate bad media very well.
 
 I suggest remaking your rescue disk on a different floppy.  But first,
check
 the floppy for bad sectors by formatting it under dos or whatever, or any
 other method you find convienient.  Even better, use a new floppy, if you

 have one handy, checking it for bad sectors first.
 
 Hope this helps
 
 Mike


Re: Problems installing Debian

1998-10-12 Thread PJBarbera
Had this problem with the Solaris 2.6, I ended up
playing 
with the memory timing settings, set them slower.
Just an idea...

Peter Barbera


Michael B. Taylor wrote:
 
 I have never seen this particular behavior before.  However, strange
 problems during installation from floppys is often attributable to
 corupt floppys.  The rawwrite or dd process usually used to make installation
 floppys from downloaded images does not tolerate bad media very well.
 
 I suggest remaking your rescue disk on a different floppy.  But first, check
 the floppy for bad sectors by formatting it under dos or whatever, or any
 other method you find convienient.  Even better, use a new floppy, if you
 have one handy, checking it for bad sectors first.
 
 Hope this helps
 
 Mike
 
 On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 02:59:21PM -0500, Alexander Bugeja wrote:
  I am trying to install Debian from floppy (I have the rescue, driver
  and 5 base floppies set up) on my AMD K6 machine. However
  when I try to start the installation, with the rescue disk, the
  machine just reboots. More specifically, I first get the
  following messages
 
  Loading root.bin...
  Loading Linux...
  Uncompressing Linux
 
   followed by a string of messages too fast to read, and then
  the machine reboots all over again, leaving me right where I started.
 
 
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Problems installing Debian

1998-10-11 Thread Alexander Bugeja
I am trying to install Debian from floppy (I have the rescue, driver
and 5 base floppies set up) on my AMD K6 machine. However
when I try to start the installation, with the rescue disk, the
machine just reboots. More specifically, I first get the
following messages

Loading root.bin...
Loading Linux...
Uncompressing Linux

 followed by a string of messages too fast to read, and then
the machine reboots all over again, leaving me right where I started.

Can anyone help?

Thanks.

Alex.


Re: Problems installing Debian from 1.3.1 CDROM

1998-02-18 Thread Jonas
Jonas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Sorry, but my original message was a bit corrupted. Heres what it
should have said:

 I'm trying to install debian from the Official 1.3.1 distribution,
 unfortunately the setup routines cannot mount my cdrom.
 
 The CDROM is detected (as /dev/hdd) but when it comes to mount the
 CDROM to install Debian, I get the following message:
 
 Bad logical zone size 1
 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom,
or too many mounted file systems
 

I can install Debian (to a certain extent by copying the contents of
the CDROM to the Harddrive but this screws up the symbolic links and
file names. However I still cannot mount the CDROM.

 
 My PC is based around an AMD-K6 200Mhz and a SOYO 5BT5 motherboard
 which uses the INTEL TX chipset. Under the previous setup (a Pentium
 75Mhz and unnamed motherboard, the CDROM worked fine.
 
 Does anyone have any ideas or solutions?
 TIA

BTW I am booting from the CDROM to install debian. I have just tried
installing Redhat 5.0 and have come up against the same problem.

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Problems installing Debian from 1.3.1 CDROM

1998-02-17 Thread Jonas
I'm trying to install debian from the Official 1.3.1 distribution,
unfortunately the setup routines cannot mount my cdrom.

The CDROM is detected (as /dev/hdd) but when it comes to mount the
CDROM to install Debian, I get the following message:

Bad logical zone size 1
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom,
   or too many mounted file systems

CDROM to the Harddrive but this screws up the symbolic links and file
names
HOwever I still cannot mount the CDROM.

My PC is based around an AMD-K6 200Mhz and a SOYO 5BT5 motherboard
which uses the INTEL TX chipset. Under the previous setup (a Pentium
75Mhz and unnamed motherboard, the CDROM worked fine.

Does anyone have any ides or solutions?
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Re: Problems installing Debian 1.3

1997-06-16 Thread Lawrence Chim
Dale Scheetz wrote:
 
 On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Joerg Friedrich wrote:
 
  Hi everybody!
 
  I'm new to Debian. Yesterday I tried to install Debian 1.3, and I got 2
  problems:
 
  1. Installation.
 
  Everythig workes fine, until I selected 'Make the Hard Disk Bootable'.
  There was an error message like 'Can't install lilo on second Hard Disk' (I
  can't remember exactly). I installed Linux on my second scsi-drive:
  /dev/sdb7   / (40 MB)
  /dev/sdb9   /usr  (1.5 GB)
  /dev/sdb10  /home (250 MB)
  /dev/sdb11  /var  (150 MB)
  /dev/sdb12  swap
 
  I have already installed OS/2-Bootmanager in /sda1. At the moment I need to
  use a bootdisk to start Linux :(
 
 
  2. Compiling a Custom Kernel
  I ran 'make menuconfig' in /usr/src/linux. I can't change the Soundblaster
  Settings (Base Adress, IRQ, Hi and Low-DMA...). There is allways the
  message 'You entered an invalid value'.
 
  What did I wrong?
 
 If this is the SoundBlaster Pro CD driver (sbpcd) then you must edit the
 source (possibly the header file as well) There are some notes on this
 issue in the source code.

Are you using bash 2.0?  There is a *bug* in the configure script in the
kernel source tree.

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Re: Problems installing Debian 1.3

1997-06-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jun 15, 1997 at 01:12:33PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote:
  2. Compiling a Custom Kernel
  I ran 'make menuconfig' in /usr/src/linux. I can't change the Soundblaster
  Settings (Base Adress, IRQ, Hi and Low-DMA...). There is allways the
  message 'You entered an invalid value'.
  
  What did I wrong?
  
 If this is the SoundBlaster Pro CD driver (sbpcd) then you must edit the
 source (possibly the header file as well) There are some notes on this
 issue in the source code.

No, there is/was a bug in the kernel configuration scripts where
it won't accept any values for one of these settings. I had to enter
nothing and edit .config by hand.

You can set the sbpcd settings on the command line to the kernel
or to the module; much more practical than editing the kernel
source for every new version. My conf.modules says

options sbpcd sbpcd=0x330,0

which is for a lasermate interface at 0x330; it's just a small
CD-ROM only controller, no sound card etc. Quotes are required
for the module only.


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Re: Problems installing Debian 1.3

1997-06-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jun 15, 1997 at 11:24:53AM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote:
 If you are using OS/2 Boot Manager, you should NOT select the 'Make the
 Hard Disk Bootable' option.  Instead you should install LILO on the root
 partition of your hard disk (the /dev/sdb7 partition should be made
 bootable, however).

I thought debian did this anyway, and installed the mbr
program into /dev/hda or /dev/sda instead, which would then
boot the partition marked active.

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Re: Problems installing Debian 1.3

1997-06-16 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 On Sun, Jun 15, 1997 at 11:24:53AM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote:
  If you are using OS/2 Boot Manager, you should NOT select the 'Make the
  Hard Disk Bootable' option.  Instead you should install LILO on the root
  partition of your hard disk (the /dev/sdb7 partition should be made
  bootable, however).
 
 I thought debian did this anyway, and installed the mbr
 program into /dev/hda or /dev/sda instead, which would then
 boot the partition marked active.

Installing on /dev/hda puts it into the MBR of the disk, which would make
LILO the boot manager.  I don't remember the exact wording of the options
on a new Debian install, but I recall that it was clear that you had a
choice of installing into the MBR or the root partition (or possibly not
at all). 

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Problems installing Debian 1.3

1997-06-15 Thread Joerg Friedrich
Hi everybody!

I'm new to Debian. Yesterday I tried to install Debian 1.3, and I got 2
problems:

1. Installation.

Everythig workes fine, until I selected 'Make the Hard Disk Bootable'.
There was an error message like 'Can't install lilo on second Hard Disk' (I
can't remember exactly). I installed Linux on my second scsi-drive: 
/dev/sdb7   / (40 MB)
/dev/sdb9   /usr  (1.5 GB)
/dev/sdb10  /home (250 MB)
/dev/sdb11  /var  (150 MB)
/dev/sdb12  swap

I have already installed OS/2-Bootmanager in /sda1. At the moment I need to
use a bootdisk to start Linux :(


2. Compiling a Custom Kernel
I ran 'make menuconfig' in /usr/src/linux. I can't change the Soundblaster
Settings (Base Adress, IRQ, Hi and Low-DMA...). There is allways the
message 'You entered an invalid value'.

What did I wrong?

yours joerg


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Re: Problems installing Debian 1.3

1997-06-15 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Joerg Friedrich wrote:

 Hi everybody!
 
 I'm new to Debian. Yesterday I tried to install Debian 1.3, and I got 2
 problems:
 
 1. Installation.
 
 Everythig workes fine, until I selected 'Make the Hard Disk Bootable'.
 There was an error message like 'Can't install lilo on second Hard Disk' (I
 can't remember exactly). I installed Linux on my second scsi-drive: 
 /dev/sdb7   / (40 MB)
 /dev/sdb9   /usr  (1.5 GB)
 /dev/sdb10  /home (250 MB)
 /dev/sdb11  /var  (150 MB)
 /dev/sdb12  swap
 
 I have already installed OS/2-Bootmanager in /sda1. At the moment I need to
 use a bootdisk to start Linux :(
 
 
 2. Compiling a Custom Kernel
 I ran 'make menuconfig' in /usr/src/linux. I can't change the Soundblaster
 Settings (Base Adress, IRQ, Hi and Low-DMA...). There is allways the
 message 'You entered an invalid value'.
 
 What did I wrong?
 
If this is the SoundBlaster Pro CD driver (sbpcd) then you must edit the
source (possibly the header file as well) There are some notes on this
issue in the source code.

Luck,

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Re: Problems installing Debian 1.3

1997-06-15 Thread Peter Weiss
 On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 11:43:00 +0200, Joerg Friedrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 said:

Joerg Hi everybody!
Joerg I'm new to Debian. Yesterday I tried to install Debian 1.3, and I got 2
Joerg problems:

Joerg 1. Installation.

Joerg Everythig workes fine, until I selected 'Make the Hard Disk Bootable'.
Joerg There was an error message like 'Can't install lilo on second Hard Disk' 
(I
Joerg can't remember exactly). I installed Linux on my second scsi-drive:
Joerg /dev/sdb7   / (40 MB)
Joerg /dev/sdb9   /usr  (1.5 GB)
Joerg /dev/sdb10  /home (250 MB)
Joerg /dev/sdb11  /var  (150 MB)
Joerg /dev/sdb12  swap

Joerg I have already installed OS/2-Bootmanager in /sda1. At the moment I need 
to
Joerg use a bootdisk to start Linux :(


Sorry, kann ich nicht weiter helfen, wie man dem OS/2 Boot-Manager sagt, daß
er Linux booten soll

Joerg 2. Compiling a Custom Kernel
Joerg I ran 'make menuconfig' in /usr/src/linux. I can't change the 
Soundblaster
Joerg Settings (Base Adress, IRQ, Hi and Low-DMA...). There is allways the
Joerg message 'You entered an invalid value'.

Joerg What did I wrong?

Nichts, ich nehme an die Kernel-Version ist unter 2.0.30. In den Shellutils
wurden einige Sachen geändert (Posic Konformität, Debian 1.3 enthält bereits
die neueren Versionen. Unter anderem wurde die Syntax des expr-Befehls so
geändert, daß die Skripte, die die Eingabe des make menuconfig checken immer
einen Fehler liefern. Bei Kernel Version 2.0.30 ist das nicht mehr der
Fall. Der soll korrigierte expr- Aufrufe enthalten.

Hier sind die Änderungen, die ich an bei Version 2.0.29 eingetragen habe:

Im scripts-Verzeichnis sehen die Shell expressions nun so aus:
(getestet mit sh-utils V1.16)

Configure:294:if expr $ans : '0$\|-\?[1-9][0-9]*$'  /dev/null; then
Configure:325:if expr $ans : '[0-9a-fA-F][0-9a-fA-F]*$'  /dev/null; then
Menuconfig:403: if expr $answer : '0$\|-\?[1-9][0-9]*$' 
/dev/null
Menuconfig:436: if expr $answer : '[0-9a-fA-F][0-9a-fA-F]*$' 
/dev/null

Hope This helps -- Peter

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Re: Problems installing Debian 1.3

1997-06-15 Thread Peter Weiss

Sorry fellows,

   my mail reader set a CC: to the list which I didn't see :-(

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Re: Problems installing Debian 1.3

1997-06-15 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Joerg Friedrich wrote:

 Hi everybody!
 
 I'm new to Debian. Yesterday I tried to install Debian 1.3, and I got 2
 problems:
 
 1. Installation.
 
 Everythig workes fine, until I selected 'Make the Hard Disk Bootable'.
 There was an error message like 'Can't install lilo on second Hard Disk' (I
 can't remember exactly). I installed Linux on my second scsi-drive: 
 /dev/sdb7   / (40 MB)
 /dev/sdb9   /usr  (1.5 GB)
 /dev/sdb10  /home (250 MB)
 /dev/sdb11  /var  (150 MB)
 /dev/sdb12  swap
 
 I have already installed OS/2-Bootmanager in /sda1. At the moment I need to
 use a bootdisk to start Linux :(

Joerg,

If you are using OS/2 Boot Manager, you should NOT select the 'Make the
Hard Disk Bootable' option.  Instead you should install LILO on the root
partition of your hard disk (the /dev/sdb7 partition should be made
bootable, however).

Then you need to configure Boot Manager to add Linux to the menu
(pointing to /dev/sdb7) and configure /etc/lilo.conf appropriately to
point to where LILO and the kernel, etc., are located (see the appropriate
HOWTO for LILO). 

Bob


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Problems installing debian 1.2

1997-01-07 Thread Mark Burgess

  * Please reply by e-mail *
 
 I am trying to install debian 1.2 on a PC from scratch. The initial
 installation works fine, but I have problems with package selection
 using dselect. I ahve copied the source tree from ftp.debian.org
 and I am using rex-fixed as og Jan 3
 
 i) Several packages complain about a missing package called
elf-x11r6lib
 
 ii) if I try to override and install anyway, I get a whole bunch
 of errors like:
 
 find: var/lib/dpkg No such file or dir
 
 which apprently originate from symbolic links which point to
 non-existent files.
 
 I would be *really* greatful for any help,
 
 thanks in advance,
 
 
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