Re: Installing Debian inside Windows 7 utilizing VirtualBox
On 25/11/13 07:27, Alois Mahdal wrote: > Hello, > > On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 19:30:16 +0200 > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> On Du, 24 nov 13, 11:45:11, Wally Lepore wrote: >>> >>> Has anyone successfully mounted a Debian .iso file directly >>> to VirtualBox? > > It's probably clear, bout just to be complete: the mounting > part should be definitely same for Debian ISO as any other > ISO :) > > >> Yes, I did this in VirtualBox running on Debian, but it >> shouldn't be different on Windows. I can't detail the steps >> because it seems I uninstalled VirtualBox, but it was quite >> easy. > > I don't have it at hand either, but and now I'm not sure > if it was for Virtualbox, KVM manager or both it was not > so trivial as e.g. on Vmware Workstation, where it's two clicks > in menu and you choose the file. It wanted you to add the file > first to some "repository" before being able to use it as image > for virtual optical drive. You're mistaken about VirtualBox. Whether the VM is running or not it's still only two clicks to select a new ISO to load into the optical device. If anything VirtualBox is simpler to use than Vmware (I use both). > However, it was possible to get > there using intuition. Or following the prompts. Kind regards. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52933b12.6060...@gmail.com
Re: Installing Debian inside Windows 7 utilizing VirtualBox
On Du, 24 nov 13, 21:27:07, Alois Mahdal wrote: > > I don't have it at hand either, but and now I'm not sure > if it was for Virtualbox, KVM manager or both it was not > so trivial as e.g. on Vmware Workstation, where it's two clicks > in menu and you choose the file. It wanted you to add the file > first to some "repository" before being able to use it as image > for virtual optical drive. However, it was possible to get > there using intuition. For virtual disks (i.e. hard disks) yes, but not for virtual CDs/DVDs. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Installing Debian inside Windows 7 utilizing VirtualBox
On 25/11/13 05:25, Wally Lepore wrote: > On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Scott Ferguson > wrote: >> On 24/11/13 01:52, Wally Lepore wrote: > > [snip] > >> choose sound and network card types, select phsyical or virtual optical >> drive (virtual uses ISO images), set network protocols. > > [snip] > > Yes I see that VirtualBox is apparently able to mount the iso file > without me having to download and install a separate "disc Imaging" > software such as "Virtual CloneDrive" or others as listed in the > comparison wikipedia below: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_disc_image_software > > Thank you kindly > > You can change the virtual cd image (iso) while the vm is running too. Just like a physical one except it never gets scratched or loses it's cover. Kind regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5292a5be.4050...@gmail.com
Re: Installing Debian inside Windows 7 utilizing VirtualBox
Hello, On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 19:30:16 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 24 nov 13, 11:45:11, Wally Lepore wrote: > > > > Has anyone successfully mounted a Debian .iso file directly > > to VirtualBox? It's probably clear, bout just to be complete: the mounting part should be definitely same for Debian ISO as any other ISO :) > Yes, I did this in VirtualBox running on Debian, but it > shouldn't be different on Windows. I can't detail the steps > because it seems I uninstalled VirtualBox, but it was quite > easy. I don't have it at hand either, but and now I'm not sure if it was for Virtualbox, KVM manager or both it was not so trivial as e.g. on Vmware Workstation, where it's two clicks in menu and you choose the file. It wanted you to add the file first to some "repository" before being able to use it as image for virtual optical drive. However, it was possible to get there using intuition. On the other hand, managers usually offer a VM creation wizard which can simplify this since it's pretty common. Thanks, aL. -- Alois Mahdal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131124212707.5ed62...@hugo.daonet.home
Re: Installing Debian inside Windows 7 utilizing VirtualBox
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 24/11/13 01:52, Wally Lepore wrote: [snip] > choose sound and network card types, select phsyical or virtual optical > drive (virtual uses ISO images), set network protocols. [snip] Yes I see that VirtualBox is apparently able to mount the iso file without me having to download and install a separate "disc Imaging" software such as "Virtual CloneDrive" or others as listed in the comparison wikipedia below: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_disc_image_software Thank you kindly -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALDXikq7PGTJ+=npqKSaBLX=0w3tq988xzugjxcawdfxgce...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Installing Debian inside Windows 7 utilizing VirtualBox
On Du, 24 nov 13, 11:45:11, Wally Lepore wrote: > > Has anyone successfully mounted a Debian .iso file directly to VirtualBox? Yes, I did this in VirtualBox running on Debian, but it shouldn't be different on Windows. I can't detail the steps because it seems I uninstalled VirtualBox, but it was quite easy. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Installing Debian inside Windows 7 utilizing VirtualBox
Hi Members,
I appreciate all the installation steps, help and advice. Just
downloaded VirtualBox for windows and finished installing the program.
Currently in the process of creating a "new machine" (in VirtualBox).
My laptop is a 32-bit OS running windows 7. I downloaded the file
called Debian-7.2.0-i386-netinst. It is a disc Image file (.iso) and I
would like to mount this directly into virtual box without burning the
file to a CD or USB stick.
I have experience with a product called Virtual CloneDrive as I
mounted an iso file with this program in the past (however it was on a
different OS and not win7).
Has anyone successfully mounted a Debian .iso file directly to VirtualBox?
Thank you
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Scott Ferguson
wrote:
> On 24/11/13 01:52, Wally Lepore wrote:
>> Hi Members,
>>
>> I would like to run Debian and test new software packages utilizing
>> Debian as a virtual environment. inside my Windows 7 OS. I would like to
>> be able to install Debian in this fashion and have the ability to
>> utilize a Debian GUI desktop as well.
>>
>> Question #1 please:
>> Would kindly like to know if Oracle's VM VirtualBox is the recommended
>> "virtualization software package" to install to accomplish this procedure.
>
> There is not "Debian recommended" virtualization solution for a Windoof
> host.
>
> I recommend VirtualBox, but there are other working applications.
>
>>
>> Question #2 please:
>> Which "Stable" version of Debian ("Squeeze" or "Wheezy") is recommended
>> that would best serve this purpose?
>
> Wheezy is stable, Squeeze is old stable.
> Wheezy would, conditionally, be your best choice.
>
> Conditions would be what do you want to do (is the versions of software
> important) - you may find you need to run a specific release of mixture
> of releases.
>
>>
>> I have been reading about VirtualBox and studying the steps involved to
>> install Debian in this manner. I'm sure I will have additional questions
>> but would simply like to start with my initial questions above.
>
> Install VirtualBox
> Create new machine (Linux, Debian) - follow the prompts changing to suit
> you needs (virtual hard drive size, dynamic or fixed size, name of
> machine, amount of RAM). Takes two minutes.
> Edit the Settings on the new machine to change defaults as required. Add
> additional hard/optical drives, change the type of drive, add floppy,
> choose sound and network card types, select phsyical or virtual optical
> drive (virtual uses ISO images), set network protocols.
> Takes 5 minutes to look at all the options.
> Choose the boot order and start the VM.
> Install Debian as if it was a bare metal install - the documentation on
> the *VirtualBox* site is good, but it's unlikely you'll require it as
> the process is suitable for chickens if you put a bit of bread on the
> Enter key.
>
>
>>
>> A couple of how-to links I've discovered:
>>
>> Installing with a GUI desktop:
>> https://jtreminio.com/2012/07/setting-up-a-debian-vm-step-by-step/
>>
>> Installing without a GUI desktop
>> http://williamjturkel.net/2013/05/31/installing-debian-linux-in-a-vm/
>
> I look to Debian for documentation first e.g.:-
> https://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox
>
> Then the application developer/s e.g.:-
> https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch02.html#installation_windows
>
>
> After that I'll consult third-party guides
>
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>>
>
>
> As for installing Debian into Windoof's VM best ask Mr Jerry Stuckle
> about the joys and triumphs of that.
>
> But if you're still keen:-
> https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/VMs/MicrosoftVirtualPc2007/etch
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
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Re: Installing Debian inside Windows 7 utilizing VirtualBox
On 24/11/13 01:52, Wally Lepore wrote:
> Hi Members,
>
> I would like to run Debian and test new software packages utilizing
> Debian as a virtual environment. inside my Windows 7 OS. I would like to
> be able to install Debian in this fashion and have the ability to
> utilize a Debian GUI desktop as well.
>
> Question #1 please:
> Would kindly like to know if Oracle's VM VirtualBox is the recommended
> "virtualization software package" to install to accomplish this procedure.
There is not "Debian recommended" virtualization solution for a Windoof
host.
I recommend VirtualBox, but there are other working applications.
>
> Question #2 please:
> Which "Stable" version of Debian ("Squeeze" or "Wheezy") is recommended
> that would best serve this purpose?
Wheezy is stable, Squeeze is old stable.
Wheezy would, conditionally, be your best choice.
Conditions would be what do you want to do (is the versions of software
important) - you may find you need to run a specific release of mixture
of releases.
>
> I have been reading about VirtualBox and studying the steps involved to
> install Debian in this manner. I'm sure I will have additional questions
> but would simply like to start with my initial questions above.
Install VirtualBox
Create new machine (Linux, Debian) - follow the prompts changing to suit
you needs (virtual hard drive size, dynamic or fixed size, name of
machine, amount of RAM). Takes two minutes.
Edit the Settings on the new machine to change defaults as required. Add
additional hard/optical drives, change the type of drive, add floppy,
choose sound and network card types, select phsyical or virtual optical
drive (virtual uses ISO images), set network protocols.
Takes 5 minutes to look at all the options.
Choose the boot order and start the VM.
Install Debian as if it was a bare metal install - the documentation on
the *VirtualBox* site is good, but it's unlikely you'll require it as
the process is suitable for chickens if you put a bit of bread on the
Enter key.
>
> A couple of how-to links I've discovered:
>
> Installing with a GUI desktop:
> https://jtreminio.com/2012/07/setting-up-a-debian-vm-step-by-step/
>
> Installing without a GUI desktop
> http://williamjturkel.net/2013/05/31/installing-debian-linux-in-a-vm/
I look to Debian for documentation first e.g.:-
https://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox
Then the application developer/s e.g.:-
https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch02.html#installation_windows
After that I'll consult third-party guides
>
> Thank you
>
>
As for installing Debian into Windoof's VM best ask Mr Jerry Stuckle
about the joys and triumphs of that.
But if you're still keen:-
https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/VMs/MicrosoftVirtualPc2007/etch
Kind regards
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Re: Installing Debian inside Windows 7 utilizing VirtualBox
On Sat, 23 Nov 2013, Wally Lepore wrote:
> Hi Members,
>
> I would like to run Debian and test new software packages utilizing
> Debian as a virtual environment. inside my Windows 7 OS. I would like
> to be able to install Debian in this fashion and have the ability to
> utilize a Debian GUI desktop as well.
>
> Question #1 please:
> Would kindly like to know if Oracle's VM VirtualBox is the recommended
> "virtualization software package" to install to accomplish this
> procedure.
On Windows? No. Microsoft recommends you to use THEIR virtualization
software -- VirtualPC or Hyper-V -- but OSes other than Windows "are
not supported." Doesn't mean Linux won't run on them, but ALL Windows
software is Windows-centric. So, there will probably be problems. Just
use VirtualBox. It will run most any OS that will run on PC Intel-based
hardware with Windows, Linux or OSX hosts.
FYI: I could never get GNOME3 to work on VirtualBox running on Linux
hosts -- Fedore 12 and Debian Wheezy, both 64-bit. Virtual graphic card
problem, I think. Never bothered to troubleshoot. I don't like
GNOME3.
VMWare is an excellent alternate choice.
>
> Question #2 please:
> Which "Stable" version of Debian ("Squeeze" or "Wheezy") is
> recommended that would best serve this purpose?
If your software needs to run on both, you'll have to compile and test
it on both.
>
> I have been reading about VirtualBox and studying the steps involved
> to install Debian in this manner. I'm sure I will have additional
> questions but would simply like to start with my initial questions
> above.
>
> A couple of how-to links I've discovered:
>
> Installing with a GUI desktop:
> https://jtreminio.com/2012/07/setting-up-a-debian-vm-step-by-step/
>
> Installing without a GUI desktop
> http://williamjturkel.net/2013/05/31/installing-debian-linux-in-a-vm/
Read VirtualBox's User Guide, too. Excellent.
B
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RE: Installing Debian inside Windows 7 utilizing VirtualBox
From: Wally Lepore [mailto:wallylep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 9:52 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Installing Debian inside Windows 7 utilizing VirtualBox
Hi Members,
I would like to run Debian and test new software packages utilizing Debian
as a virtual environment. inside my Windows 7 OS. I would like to be able to
install Debian in this fashion and have the ability to utilize a Debian GUI
desktop as well.
Question #1 please:
Would kindly like to know if Oracle's VM VirtualBox is the recommended
"virtualization software package" to install to accomplish this procedure.
Question #2 please:
Which "Stable" version of Debian ("Squeeze" or "Wheezy") is recommended that
would best serve this purpose?
I have been reading about VirtualBox and studying the steps involved to
install Debian in this manner. I'm sure I will have additional questions but
would simply like to start with my initial questions above.
A couple of how-to links I've discovered:
Installing with a GUI desktop:
https://jtreminio.com/2012/07/setting-up-a-debian-vm-step-by-step/
Installing without a GUI desktop
http://williamjturkel.net/2013/05/31/installing-debian-linux-in-a-vm/
Thank you
I am running Wheezy and Jessie/sid, in different MS Windows 7 directories of
course, in the current version of VMware Player without any problems
whatsoever.
I have also evaluated the Oracle VM, but prefer the VMware player as I have
not run into any problems with installing Debian.
Download the iso and follow the installer prompts.
Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy
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Re: Installing Debian inside Windows 7 utilizing VirtualBox
On 24/11/13 01:52, Wally Lepore wrote:
> Hi Members,
>
> I would like to run Debian and test new software packages utilizing
> Debian as a virtual environment. inside my Windows 7 OS. I would like to
> be able to install Debian in this fashion and have the ability to
> utilize a Debian GUI desktop as well.
>
> Question #1 please:
> Would kindly like to know if Oracle's VM VirtualBox is the recommended
> "virtualization software package" to install to accomplish this procedure.
There is no officially "recommended" virtualization solution for running
Debian on a Windoof host.
My preference is to use VirtualBox, but there is at least one other
application that will do the job.
>
> Question #2 please:
> Which "Stable" version of Debian ("Squeeze" or "Wheezy") is recommended
> that would best serve this purpose?
Squeeze is no longer "stable", though it's a stable release.
Wheezy is the current "stable".
You can install the Debian release of your choice, be it Etch, Squeeze,
Sid, etc, or mixed.
I'd recommend Wheezy, but the "recommended" release would be determined
by what you want Debian to do. i.e. is it to run "production" purposes?
if so choose the current stable (Wheezy), does it need to support very
recent hardware? - if so you'd probably find testing or unstable a
better choice. Do you require specific versions of software? Then you
may have to pick the release that supports those versions.
>
> I have been reading about VirtualBox and studying the steps involved to
> install Debian in this manner. I'm sure I will have additional questions
> but would simply like to start with my initial questions above.
>
> A couple of how-to links I've discovered:
>
> Installing with a GUI desktop:
> https://jtreminio.com/2012/07/setting-up-a-debian-vm-step-by-step/
>
> Installing without a GUI desktop
> http://williamjturkel.net/2013/05/31/installing-debian-linux-in-a-vm/
>
> Thank you
>
>
Installing Debian into VirtualBox is simple, except for a couple of
quick, simple, choose and click options to create the VirtualBox machine
that you'll install Debian into the process is identical to installing
onto bare metal.
Create a new machine, choose Linux as the OS, select Debian as the Linux
type, agree to the default hard drive size or change it to suit your
needs, choose dynamic or fixed for drive size and pick a suitable name
for the machine.
Once the machine is created you can adjust RAM size and various other
machine parameters - similar to how you would select components to make
a new computer. All that is achieved from the Settings option for the
machine.
Change or add storage devices and types (hard drives, floppy, cd/dvd
drives). Use either the host CD/DVD or a virtual CD (uses iso images
instead of physical CDs). Choose boot order and start the machine.
Install Debian.
Done.
Kind regards.
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