RE: Installing glibc-2.21 on debian-8

2015-07-06 Thread Arno Schuring
 Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 08:41:44 +0100
 From: zen75...@zen.co.uk

 On 06/07/15 06:07, Dhiraj Bhor wrote:
 Also wanted to know which are security bugs reported for glibc-2.19-18.
 Thanks for being patient.

 Information about current bugs in Debian packages can be found through
 the Bug Tracking System at https://bugs.debian.org/

 Upstream bug information for GNU libc can be found at
 https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/

There's also https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/glibc


Regards,
Arno

  

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Re: Installing glibc-2.21 on debian-8

2015-07-06 Thread Martin Read

On 06/07/15 06:07, Dhiraj Bhor wrote:

Also wanted to know which are security bugs reported for glibc-2.19-18.
Thanks for being patient.


Information about current bugs in Debian packages can be found through 
the Bug Tracking System at https://bugs.debian.org/


Upstream bug information for GNU libc can be found at 
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/



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Re: Installing glibc-2.21 on debian-8

2015-07-06 Thread Dhiraj Bhor
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Arno Schuring aelschur...@hotmail.com
wrote:

  Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 08:41:44 +0100
  From: zen75...@zen.co.uk
 
  On 06/07/15 06:07, Dhiraj Bhor wrote:
  Also wanted to know which are security bugs reported for glibc-2.19-18.
  Thanks for being patient.
 
  Information about current bugs in Debian packages can be found through
  the Bug Tracking System at https://bugs.debian.org/
 
  Upstream bug information for GNU libc can be found at
  https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/

 There's also
 https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/glibc


 Regards,
 Arno



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Re: Installing glibc-2.21 on debian-8

2015-07-05 Thread Dhiraj Bhor
I read from https://wiki.debian.org/DebianExperimental link that installing
experimental package will functinaly break the system.
I want to know when experimental branch will become stable, Do i get any
page where this information already exist?

Dhiraj


Re: Installing glibc-2.21 on debian-8

2015-07-05 Thread Dhiraj Bhor
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Dhiraj Bhor dhirajbho...@gmail.com wrote:


 I read from https://wiki.debian.org/DebianExperimental link that
 installing experimental package will functinaly break the system.
 I want to know when experimental branch will become stable, Do i get any
 page where this information already exist?

Also wanted to know which are security bugs reported for glibc-2.19-18.
Thanks for being patient.

Dhiraj


Re: Installing glibc-2.21 on debian-8

2015-07-05 Thread David Wright
Quoting Dhiraj Bhor (dhirajbho...@gmail.com):
 
 I read from https://wiki.debian.org/DebianExperimental link that installing
 experimental package will functinaly break the system.
 I want to know when experimental branch will become stable,

In a word, never.

 Do i get any page
 where this information already exist?

https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/resources#s4.6.4
specifically 4.6.4.3

Cheers,
David.


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Re: Installing glibc-2.21 on debian-8

2015-07-03 Thread Sven Hartge
Dhiraj Bhor dhirajbho...@gmail.com wrote:

 $] wget http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/glibc/glibc-2.21.tar.xz
 $] tar xf glibc-2.21.tar.xz
 $] mkdir glibc-test
 $] cd glibc-test
 $] ../glibc-2.21/configure --prefix=/usr

You do know that installing your own glibc over the one supplied by
Debian in the same path will most likely destroy your system.

If you do this to observe the effects of overwriting the system glibc
without proper prepartion, then all is fine.

If not, then please describe what you are trying to accomplish.

Grüße,
Sven.

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Re: Installing glibc-2.21 on debian-8

2015-07-03 Thread Dhiraj Bhor
On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Sven Hartge s...@svenhartge.de wrote:

 Dhiraj Bhor dhirajbho...@gmail.com wrote:

  $] wget http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/glibc/glibc-2.21.tar.xz
  $] tar xf glibc-2.21.tar.xz
  $] mkdir glibc-test
  $] cd glibc-test
  $] ../glibc-2.21/configure --prefix=/usr

 You do know that installing your own glibc over the one supplied by
 Debian in the same path will most likely destroy your system.

 If you do this to observe the effects of overwriting the system glibc
 without proper prepartion, then all is fine.

 If not, then please describe what you are trying to accomplish.

 Grüße,
 Sven.

 For my work requirement i need to build my project with latest glibc.
Yes i do understand that this can crash the system and i read some
documents but i am not getting success.
I have tried installing with --prefix=$HOME/objdir/ but no success. I have
got segmentation fault every time. (and reverted the machine to previous
working snapshot and tried again)

Dhiraj


Re: Installing glibc-2.21 on debian-8

2015-07-03 Thread claude juif
Hi,

If you really need latest development tools, i suggest you to switch to
Fedora 22. (glibc-2.21-5 and gcc 5.1.1). It will be easier and faster than
trying to modify glibc stuff in Debian 8.

Regards,

2015-07-03 11:56 GMT+02:00 Dhiraj Bhor dhirajbho...@gmail.com:



 On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Sven Hartge s...@svenhartge.de wrote:

 Dhiraj Bhor dhirajbho...@gmail.com wrote:

  $] wget http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/glibc/glibc-2.21.tar.xz
  $] tar xf glibc-2.21.tar.xz
  $] mkdir glibc-test
  $] cd glibc-test
  $] ../glibc-2.21/configure --prefix=/usr

 You do know that installing your own glibc over the one supplied by
 Debian in the same path will most likely destroy your system.

 If you do this to observe the effects of overwriting the system glibc
 without proper prepartion, then all is fine.

 If not, then please describe what you are trying to accomplish.

 Grüße,
 Sven.

 For my work requirement i need to build my project with latest glibc.
 Yes i do understand that this can crash the system and i read some
 documents but i am not getting success.
 I have tried installing with --prefix=$HOME/objdir/ but no success. I have
 got segmentation fault every time. (and reverted the machine to previous
 working snapshot and tried again)

 Dhiraj




Re: Installing glibc-2.21 on debian-8

2015-07-03 Thread Dhiraj Bhor
On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 3:31 PM, claude juif claude.j...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 If you really need latest development tools, i suggest you to switch to
 Fedora 22. (glibc-2.21-5 and gcc 5.1.1). It will be easier and faster than
 trying to modify glibc stuff in Debian 8.

 Regards,

 I would like to but its a requirement and i have to do  it. No option.
May be if i can patch the glibc with all security patches will be enough
for me.

Dhiraj


Re: Installing glibc-2.21 on debian-8

2015-07-03 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Jul 03, 2015 at 12:07:26PM +0530, Dhiraj Bhor wrote:
Hi,
I have debian jessie (8.0) on virtual machine.
$] uname -a
Linux rdx86-ds7 3.16.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1
(2015-04-24) i686 GNU/Linux
I need to install latest glibc (libc-2.21) on this machine.

glibc 2.21 is in experimental. Read
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianExperimental to learn how to use
experimental.


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RE: Installing glibc-2.21 on debian-8

2015-07-03 Thread Arno Schuring

 Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 15:37:03 +0530 
 From: dhirajbho...@gmail.com 
 On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 3:31 PM, claude juif  
 claude.j...@gmail.commailto:claude.j...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Hi, 
  
 If you really need latest development tools, i suggest you to switch to  
 Fedora 22. (glibc-2.21-5 and gcc 5.1.1). It will be easier and faster  
 than trying to modify glibc stuff in Debian 8. 
  
 Regards, 
  
 I would like to but its a requirement and i have to do  it. No option. 
 May be if i can patch the glibc with all security patches will be  
 enough for me. 

What exactly is the requirement? That you develop against latest libc
or that you deploy with latest libc? Because you mentioning security
patches makes me suspect it's the latter, in which case it's a seriously
bad idea to build your own. Are you going to subscribe to the CVE lists
and rebuild every security patch yourself? Have you factored the ongoing
maintenance cost of that in your project?

If it's only that your project needs to build against the latest glibc,
I recommend you start with an unstable buildroot (man debootstrap), and
install your latest libraries in there. You don't even need to develop
in the chroot, just develop on your own and run the integration tests in
the chroot.


Regards,
Arno
  

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Re: Installing glibc-2.21 on debian-8

2015-07-03 Thread Dhiraj Bhor
On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Arno Schuring aelschur...@hotmail.com
wrote:


  Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 15:37:03 +0530
  From: dhirajbho...@gmail.com
  On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 3:31 PM, claude juif
  claude.j...@gmail.commailto:claude.j...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  If you really need latest development tools, i suggest you to switch to
  Fedora 22. (glibc-2.21-5 and gcc 5.1.1). It will be easier and faster
  than trying to modify glibc stuff in Debian 8.
 
  Regards,
 
  I would like to but its a requirement and i have to do  it. No option.
  May be if i can patch the glibc with all security patches will be
  enough for me.

 What exactly is the requirement? That you develop against latest libc
 or that you deploy with latest libc? Because you mentioning security
 patches makes me suspect it's the latter, in which case it's a seriously
 bad idea to build your own. Are you going to subscribe to the CVE lists
 and rebuild every security patch yourself? Have you factored the ongoing
 maintenance cost of that in your project?

 If it's only that your project needs to build against the latest glibc,
 I recommend you start with an unstable buildroot (man debootstrap), and
 install your latest libraries in there. You don't even need to develop
 in the chroot, just develop on your own and run the integration tests in
 the chroot.


 Regards,
 Arno

 Thanks @Darac. i am new to this, But what i understood is debian system
must have glibc which is shipped as with installation media and better i
don't mess with it.
I will try the experimental branch.
@Amo: Your suggestion about ROI is acceptable and thanks for reminding the
cost effectiveness for the same.