Re: NIC Cards...is there any difference between them?

2000-05-15 Thread Keith G. Murphy
Make that a third...

kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
 
 Second the Linksys 10/100 endorsement.
 
 On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 07:38:46PM -0500, KULISHdotCOM wrote:
  I haven't used those cards in months...
 
  I switched to linksys 10/100... can get them for 15 bucks US and they work
  flawlessly.  All my 8139s have been donated to the local landfill.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jason Gunthorpe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 7:31 PM
  To: Chris Mason
  Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Subject: RE: NIC Cards...is there any difference between them?
 
 
  On Fri, 12 May 2000, Chris Mason wrote:
 
   Aahhh! That's why my realtek cards are not being installed when I boot
  from
   cold.  In the trash with them.
 
  Have you tried the rtl8139too driver?
 
  These cards are nice and cheap, perfect for workstations..
 
  Jason
 
 
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Re: NIC Cards...is there any difference between them?

2000-05-15 Thread Robert Waldner
well, for money´s worth, get 3com 509 (if you can spend 50$+). run in most
of our workstations, not a single problem in 2 years now.

for a home-machine I´d prefer somewhat tulip-based, seen at 20$+, and the
driver is aged by now ;-), my linksys 10/100 has its peculiarities...

just my 2 (euro-) cents worth,
rw

On Mon, 15 May 2000 12:10:04 CDT, Keith G. Murphy writes:
Make that a third...

kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
 
 Second the Linksys 10/100 endorsement.
 
 On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 07:38:46PM -0500, KULISHdotCOM wrote:
 
  I switched to linksys 10/100... can get them for 15 bucks US and they work
  flawlessly.  All my 8139s have been donated to the local landfill.


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Re: NIC Cards...is there any difference between them?

2000-05-13 Thread kmself
Second the Linksys 10/100 endorsement.

On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 07:38:46PM -0500, KULISHdotCOM wrote:
 I haven't used those cards in months...
 
 I switched to linksys 10/100... can get them for 15 bucks US and they work
 flawlessly.  All my 8139s have been donated to the local landfill.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Gunthorpe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 7:31 PM
 To: Chris Mason
 Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: RE: NIC Cards...is there any difference between them?
 
 
 On Fri, 12 May 2000, Chris Mason wrote:
 
  Aahhh! That's why my realtek cards are not being installed when I boot
 from
  cold.  In the trash with them.
 
 Have you tried the rtl8139too driver?
 
 These cards are nice and cheap, perfect for workstations..
 
 Jason
 
 
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Re: NIC Cards...is there any difference between them?

2000-05-13 Thread Graeme Mathieson
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Hi,

KULISHdotCOM [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I agree, avoid the $10 types.  I bought 5 realtek 8139 type cards for 6
 bucks a piece.

I've also got 6 of them floating around, plus two in another location.  It
semi-regularly fails in an Alpha, but we were told that the Alpha
motherboard was particularly choosy about the cards it accepted[1].  Other
than that, I've had the cards running flawlessly for about a year...

...Until very recently.  Now one of the cards in my router fails
occasionally.  It only happens when there's significant load on the network
(usually at 0:45 when the backup occurs).  I've just written a wee script
to bounce the card[2] if it fails, so it never bothers me.

I'll have to try the driver that Jason suggested ... Do you have a URL
for it?

[1] Something about timing issues.
[2] ifdown eth1; sleep 1; ifup eth1
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RE: NIC Cards...is there any difference between them?

2000-05-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 12-May-2000 Ron Stordahl wrote:
 10Base-T RJ45 PCI Network Cards some in an incredible range of prices from
 10 bucks up.  Is it possible that the only significant difference is the
 brand name?
 

some cards only send even numbered packets (yes I am serious).  Some cards are
so cheap we do not know what chips are on them or how to control them.

Read the list of supported hardware, buy something that sounds like that.  Most
of us avoid the 10 dollar cards.



RE: NIC Cards...is there any difference between them?

2000-05-12 Thread KULISHdotCOM
I agree, avoid the $10 types.  I bought 5 realtek 8139 type cards for 6
bucks a piece.  Everything seemed kosher, they even ran with the Linux
drivers fine Until you had an unscheduled reboot due to power loss.
Then they would forget who they were and what they were supposed to do.
Didn't hurt the cards any...  installed them in other machines, including
windows NT and they worked fine until.

-Original Message-
From: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 5:59 PM
To: Ron Stordahl
Cc: Debian User List
Subject: RE: NIC Cards...is there any difference between them?


On 12-May-2000 Ron Stordahl wrote:
 10Base-T RJ45 PCI Network Cards some in an incredible range of prices from
 10 bucks up.  Is it possible that the only significant difference is the
 brand name?


some cards only send even numbered packets (yes I am serious).  Some cards
are
so cheap we do not know what chips are on them or how to control them.

Read the list of supported hardware, buy something that sounds like that.
Most
of us avoid the 10 dollar cards.


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RE: NIC Cards...is there any difference between them?

2000-05-12 Thread Chris Mason
Aahhh! That's why my realtek cards are not being installed when I boot from
cold.  In the trash with them.

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-Original Message-
From: KULISHdotCOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 7:11 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: RE: NIC Cards...is there any difference between them?


I agree, avoid the $10 types.  I bought 5 realtek 8139 type cards for 6
bucks a piece.  Everything seemed kosher, they even ran with the Linux
drivers fine Until you had an unscheduled reboot due to power loss.
Then they would forget who they were and what they were supposed to do.
Didn't hurt the cards any...  installed them in other machines, including
windows NT and they worked fine until.

-Original Message-
From: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 5:59 PM
To: Ron Stordahl
Cc: Debian User List
Subject: RE: NIC Cards...is there any difference between them?


On 12-May-2000 Ron Stordahl wrote:
 10Base-T RJ45 PCI Network Cards some in an incredible range of prices from
 10 bucks up.  Is it possible that the only significant difference is the
 brand name?


some cards only send even numbered packets (yes I am serious).  Some cards
are
so cheap we do not know what chips are on them or how to control them.

Read the list of supported hardware, buy something that sounds like that.
Most
of us avoid the 10 dollar cards.


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RE: NIC Cards...is there any difference between them?

2000-05-12 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Fri, 12 May 2000, Chris Mason wrote:

 Aahhh! That's why my realtek cards are not being installed when I boot from
 cold.  In the trash with them.

Have you tried the rtl8139too driver?

These cards are nice and cheap, perfect for workstations..

Jason



RE: NIC Cards...is there any difference between them?

2000-05-12 Thread KULISHdotCOM
I haven't used those cards in months...

I switched to linksys 10/100... can get them for 15 bucks US and they work
flawlessly.  All my 8139s have been donated to the local landfill.

-Original Message-
From: Jason Gunthorpe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 7:31 PM
To: Chris Mason
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: RE: NIC Cards...is there any difference between them?


On Fri, 12 May 2000, Chris Mason wrote:

 Aahhh! That's why my realtek cards are not being installed when I boot
from
 cold.  In the trash with them.

Have you tried the rtl8139too driver?

These cards are nice and cheap, perfect for workstations..

Jason


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Re: NIC Cards...is there any difference between them?

2000-05-12 Thread Brian Stults
I got my rtl8139 for free ($15 - $15 rebate).  It's worked great for
about 6 months - no exceptions.

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