Re: REvisiting "Tool for investigating dependency chains?"

2022-05-30 Thread Richard Owlett

On 05/29/2022 09:31 PM, David wrote:

On Mon, 30 May 2022 at 01:28, Richard Owlett  wrote:


berenger.mo...@neutralite.org responded with a discussion about using
aptitude's visual mode.

That has multiple problems:
1. My original goal description was inadequate.
2. My target environment has changed.
3. From his description I don't completely grok how to use aptitude's
   visual mode. The man page is not helpful as it is not intended to
   be a tutorial but more a reference work to refresh the memory of
   one already familiar with a specific tool. I searched for a
   tutorial covering the visual mode. *BUT* the ones I found only
   mentioned it in passing and all examples were pure command line.


https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/09/msg00296.html



I had forgotten that thread. Reading the complete thread will prevent me 
from duplicating work I've already done. Thank you.


It pointed to
[https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/aptitude/ch01s01s01.en.html]
which demonstrated that yesterday I had correctly invoked aptitude's 
visual mode. That I received a "black screen" in response suggests I 
have system problems - which I suspected.


I had already planned on installing current Debian on another machine.




Re: REvisiting "Tool for investigating dependency chains?"

2022-05-29 Thread David
On Mon, 30 May 2022 at 01:28, Richard Owlett  wrote:

> berenger.mo...@neutralite.org responded with a discussion about using
> aptitude's visual mode.
>
> That has multiple problems:
>1. My original goal description was inadequate.
>2. My target environment has changed.
>3. From his description I don't completely grok how to use aptitude's
>   visual mode. The man page is not helpful as it is not intended to
>   be a tutorial but more a reference work to refresh the memory of
>   one already familiar with a specific tool. I searched for a
>   tutorial covering the visual mode. *BUT* the ones I found only
>   mentioned it in passing and all examples were pure command line.

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/09/msg00296.html



REvisiting "Tool for investigating dependency chains?"

2022-05-29 Thread Richard Owlett

In my original post [1] I said:

I'm in the process of doing some idiosyncratic minimalistic installs using 
the "--no-install-recommends" option of apt-get.


What I would like to do is enter the package name. The tool's response would
be a list of the recommended packages and their associated description from
packages.gz. At the moment the referenced repository would be a distribution 
DVD.


berenger.mo...@neutralite.org responded with a discussion about using 
aptitude's visual mode.


That has multiple problems:
  1. My original goal description was inadequate.
  2. My target environment has changed.
  3. From his description I don't completely grok how to use aptitude's
 visual mode. The man page is not helpful as it is not intended to
 be a tutorial but more a reference work to refresh the memory of
 one already familiar with a specific tool. I searched for a
 tutorial covering the visual mode. *BUT* the ones I found only
 mentioned it in passing and all examples were pure command line.

Clarifications:
  1. What I'm looking for would essentially depict the gemological
 relations resulting from
   apt-get install --no-install-recommends mate-desktop-environment
 [Something resembling a hierarchical directory tree desired.]
  2. The tool would be run under Debian 9.13 with MATE DE.
 The data would be from the then current repository of Debian
 stable.
  3. I'd like a pointer to a tutorial showing the actual usage of
 aptitude's visual mode.
 Entering just "aptitude" in MATES terminal gives a BLACK screen.
 Entering "aptitude /" in MATES terminal gives an error scree ending
 "This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers."

TIA

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/10/msg00365.html