Re: [OT] Stupid consumers and inferior hardware (was: Monitor question)

2010-12-31 Thread briand
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 10:03:24 -0500 (EST)
Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:

 
 Manufacturers are not doing this because the consumer wants it.  They
 are doing it to cut costs.  And they think they can get away with it.
 And sadly, in most cases, they are right.  Most consumers can't even
 tell that they are being ripped off.  If consumers stopped buying
 these inferior items, manufacturers would stop producing them.  But
 they don't. They keep buying them.  We're getting what we deserve,
 I'm afraid.
 

they get away with it because most people run windows, the mfr provides
the driver, and when it breaks, people expect it because it's windows.

Remember the tulip ethernet chip ?  Friend of mine loaned me a card
for ethernet and it worked great.  I bought one and it didn't work
worth a darn.  Got his board back - worked great.

Examined the board carefully, they were exactly the same.  oh, except
for one minor thing.  the tulip chip had rev B on it.  My friends was
rev A.

You will always be in trouble with hardware under Linux because of the
lack of mfr's drivers, and when they do provide drivers they are
generally binary objects, e.g. NVIDIA.

It's very frustrating, so I for one appreciate your rant :-)

Brian


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Re: [OT] Stupid consumers and inferior hardware (was: Monitor question)

2010-12-30 Thread Simon Hollenbach
- Original message -
 You might enjoy my anti-winmodem rant in the following web page:
 
       http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/tp600.htm
Link broken, most certainly u meant:
http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/tp600.htm
 
 It's in the Crucial Background Information section.

     .''`.         Stephen Powell       


Re: [OT] Stupid consumers and inferior hardware (was: Monitor question)

2010-12-30 Thread Charlie
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 22:23:30 +0100 Simon Hollenbach
ionpowe...@googlemail.com shared this with us all:

- Original message -
 You might enjoy my anti-winmodem rant in the following web page:
 
       http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/tp600.htm
Link broken, most certainly u meant:
http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/tp600.htm
 
 It's in the Crucial Background Information section.

     .''`.         Stephen Powell       

Your email program [Modest 3.2] must have broken it, because it wasn't
broken here?

Charlie
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Re: [OT] Stupid consumers and inferior hardware (was: Monitor question)

2010-12-30 Thread Simon Hollenbach
- Original message -
 On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 22:23:30 +0100 Simon Hollenbach
 ionpowe...@googlemail.com shared this with us all:
 
  - Original message -
   You might enjoy my anti-winmodem rant in the following web page:
   
           http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/tp600.htm
  Link broken, most certainly u meant:
  http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/tp600.htm
  
   It's in the Crucial Background Information section.
  
         .''`.          Stephen Powell        
 
 Your email program [Modest 3.2] must have broken it, because it wasn't
 broken here?
 
 Charlie
its propably due to bad resolving of microb, the maemo browser. Thanks for the 
info, I'm gonna file a bug.
Simon

P.s sorry for private mail, Charlie, im gonna learn posting eventually :P

Re: [OT] Stupid consumers and inferior hardware (was: Monitor question)

2010-12-30 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 16:35:49 -0500 (EST), Charlie wrote:
 On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 22:23:30 +0100 Simon Hollenbach wrote:
 Stephen Powell wrote:
 ...
 You might enjoy my anti-winmodem rant in the following web page:
 
       http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/tp600.htm
 
 It's in the Crucial Background Information section.

 Link broken, most certainly u meant:
 http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/tp600.htm
 
 Your email program [Modest 3.2] must have broken it, because it wasn't
 broken here?

Apparently, WOW has re-organized their web site.  If I type

   http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/tp600.htm

in the address bar of my browser and press Enter, the page is displayed,
but the address bar subsequently shows

   http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/tp600.htm

Something, somewhere, is providing a re-direction to another URL.
Anyway, the actual URL is now apparently the one above, but the
original one still works for me.

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