Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Mon 31 Mar 2014 at 05:03:14 +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: Which should be the best option for me? xterm*color1: #f92672 or XTerm*VT100*color1: #f92672 Both override what is in /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm-color. The first option is best for me. And what is the difference between the resources color1 and color? First read about the -p option in dircolors(1). There are 8 available colours (30-37) for a terminal outside X. In an xterm color0, color1 etc correspond to 30, 31 etc. colors 8-15 corresond to the bold variants of these colors. Please see xterm(1) and /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm-color. For example, DIR is 01;34. This corresponds to color12. I'd suggest we are now going well beyond your original (solved) problem. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140331155257.gi3...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Mon 31 Mar 2014 at 05:03:14 +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: Which should be the best option for me? xterm*color1: #f92672 or XTerm*VT100*color1: #f92672 Both override what is in /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm-color. The first option is best for me. Thanks that should be enough to mark this thread as solved :) For example, DIR is 01;34. This corresponds to color12. I'd suggest we are now going well beyond your original (solved) problem. That brings to light another problem that I am facing now. I am not able to set the dircolors right for the ls command. But I think I should start a new thread for the same. Thanks for helping me out everyone. Cheers :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CA+Jf9AF3EDHTbvY7+z50a3o=ug8gyu2m6qc_tlg26wxxcj8...@mail.gmail.com
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
And including that one in the list gives: xterm*color1: #f92672 XTerm*VT100*color: #f92672? XTerm*color: #f92672 *VT100*color1: red3 Which should be the best option for me? xterm*color1: #f92672 or XTerm*VT100*color1: #f92672 And what is the difference between the resources color1 and color? -- Regards, Anubhav Yadav Imperial College of Engineering and Research, Pune. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CA+Jf9AGqvvzOTE9M4FT05x2YNa=LvAUM6i=v+vgkd0goij7...@mail.gmail.com
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
So ultimately the conclusion is that for me to have the most optimized settings, I should change all my colors from xterm*color to XTerm*color Is that right? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca+jf9agfrpt_h528cpowommdro5mipnnwvtoy_ozxbqqewj...@mail.gmail.com
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Fri 28 Mar 2014 at 22:33:20 +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: So according to our discussion, my colors in *MY* .Xresources should be more *specific* to the resources used system wide. Yes; especially in the light of Debian's setup. In that case my settings for colors should be: XTerm*VT100*color: #f92672? Is that right? That should do it but XTerm*color: #f92672 is ok too (and less typing :)) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/28032014172633.a69033326...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
My fault; the command is 'appres XTerm xterm'. There should be two resource lines with color1 in them. One is from XTerm-color, the other is from the merged .Xresources. Which one is more specific? I found this *VT100*color1: red3 and xterm*color1: #f92672 From our discussions before, I think *VT100*color1 should be more specific Now add the line *customization: to the original .Xresources and run the appres command again, Can you predict what should happen to an xterm when you start X? Yes - you've missed my propensity to mistype; :) correct it and you're there. Sorry for the epic late response here, had a placement drive in my college. CCing it to Brian, only because of such a late reply to this thread . So according to our discussion, my colors in *MY* .Xresources should be more *specific* to the resources used system wide. In that case my settings for colors should be: XTerm*VT100*color: #f92672? Is that right? -- Regards, Anubhav Yadav Imperial College of Engineering and Research, Pune. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca+jf9afrvyynmfb94rdn1xfvb2ehjcn15yfsb90dfu0zorh...@mail.gmail.com
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 10:33:20PM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: || I found this || *VT100*color1: red3 || and || xterm*color1: #f92672 Specificity is checked left to right. The second specifies an instance xterm, which comes earlier than class VT100 of the first. Therefore the second is more specific, and gets priority. || In that case my settings for colors should be: || || XTerm*VT100*color: #f92672? Depends, because there is a second rule: the instance name (xterm) is more specific than the class name (XTerm). So from high to low specificity and thus priority: xterm*color1: #f92672 XTerm*VT100*color: #f92672? *VT100*color1: red3 Your example falls in between. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 05:32:12PM +, Brian wrote: || That should do it but || || XTerm*color: #f92672 || || is ok too (and less typing :)) And including that one in the list gives: xterm*color1: #f92672 XTerm*VT100*color: #f92672? XTerm*color: #f92672 *VT100*color1: red3 because #2 specifies VT100 in the second slot, where #3 specifies nothing (the color is the third slot). Maybe this way of writing it makes this clearer: xterm ? color1 XTerm VT100 color XTerm ? color ? VT100 color1 And now I see that there's actually not even about the same resource! #1 and #4 are about resource instance color1, #2 and #3 are about resource instance color. Oh well, I guess you see things work. Vincent. -- Vincent Zweije vinc...@zweije.nl | If you're flamed in a group you http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/ | don't read, does anybody get burnt? [Xhost should be taken out and shot] |-- Paul Tomblin on a.s.r. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Fri 28 Mar 2014 at 21:13:43 +0100, Vincent Zweije wrote: And including that one in the list gives: xterm*color1: #f92672 XTerm*VT100*color: #f92672? XTerm*color: #f92672 *VT100*color1: red3 because #2 specifies VT100 in the second slot, where #3 specifies nothing (the color is the third slot). Maybe this way of writing it makes this clearer: xterm ? color1 XTerm VT100 color XTerm ? color ? VT100 color1 And now I see that there's actually not even about the same resource! #1 and #4 are about resource instance color1, #2 and #3 are about resource instance color. Oh well, I guess you see things work. It's spot the typo time! Made once and then repeated, unfortunately. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140329002312.gb3...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
Re-read what Vincent Zweije wrote, especially his first mail. Then re-read the answers in the stackexchange link you gave, concentrating on what is said about specific and priority. Now re-read what you wrote: Yes, Vincent said that the default .Xresources contain some settings with a higher priority. And the stackexchange comments says that if there is an Xresource somewhere that has more specific settings like XTerm*background then it overides the generic settings like *background. *customization: -color is from /etc/X11/Xresources/x11-common. It tells X what application specific resource file in /etc/X11/app-defaults to use. Normally the resource file used corresponds to the application name; for example, XTerm for xterm. The customization resource adds -color to the normal resource file name and so XTerm-color is used. It's very confusing to me. From what I interpret, the *customization: -color simply selects XTerm-color resources instead of XTerm from /etc/X11/app-defaults? Note that .Xresources is merged with XTerm-color but from your re-reading (and from your experience) you should realise it does not mean everything in it is applied. Take your *original* .Xresources and, in the light of your reading, look at the output (color1 etc in particular) of 'appres XTERM xterm'. color1 is #f92672 Now add the line *customization: to the original .Xresources and run the appres command again, Can you predict what should happen to an xterm when you start X? I am typing this *before* I make any changes in my .Xresources and before xrdb .Xresources I feel that this should overide the *customization: -color settings in /etc/x11/Xresources and the settings in XTerm should be loaded. Okay after adding the said line in .Xresources (*customization:) and reloading them (xrdb .Xresource) color1 is xterm*color1: #f92672 Which is the same? Am I missing something? Sorry for a delayed response! -- Regards, Anubhav Yadav Imperial College of Engineering and Research, Pune. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CA+Jf9AFDxm-FTSXY=hHvwG+j2Ex_eqjjt=KbqRr_+6_C9=5...@mail.gmail.com
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Fri 21 Mar 2014 at 22:26:40 +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: Re-read what Vincent Zweije wrote, especially his first mail. Then re-read the answers in the stackexchange link you gave, concentrating on what is said about specific and priority. Now re-read what you wrote: Yes, Vincent said that the default .Xresources contain some settings with a higher priority. And the stackexchange comments says that if there is an Xresource somewhere that has more specific settings like XTerm*background then it overides the generic settings like *background. Spot on. Note *VT100*background is also more specific than *background. *customization: -color is from /etc/X11/Xresources/x11-common. It tells X what application specific resource file in /etc/X11/app-defaults to use. Normally the resource file used corresponds to the application name; for example, XTerm for xterm. The customization resource adds -color to the normal resource file name and so XTerm-color is used. It's very confusing to me. From what I interpret, the *customization: -color simply selects XTerm-color resources instead of XTerm from /etc/X11/app-defaults? Correct. Note that XTerm-color (you can check) includes XTerm, but this is of no importance for our purposes. Note that .Xresources is merged with XTerm-color but from your re-reading (and from your experience) you should realise it does not mean everything in it is applied. Take your *original* .Xresources and, in the light of your reading, look at the output (color1 etc in particular) of 'appres XTERM xterm'. color1 is #f92672 My fault; the command is 'appres XTerm xterm'. There should be two resource lines with color1 in them. One is from XTerm-color, the other is from the merged .Xresources. Which one is more specific? Now add the line *customization: to the original .Xresources and run the appres command again, Can you predict what should happen to an xterm when you start X? I am typing this *before* I make any changes in my .Xresources and before xrdb .Xresources Don't use xrdb .Xresources. It will wipe out averything from XTerm. Not that it really matters here but it is not part of the testing strategy. I feel that this should overide the *customization: -color settings in /etc/x11/Xresources and the settings in XTerm should be loaded. That's the correct conclusion; the color settings from XTerm-color will be absent and what is in .Xresources should prevail. Okay after adding the said line in .Xresources (*customization:) and reloading them (xrdb .Xresource) color1 is xterm*color1: #f92672 Which is the same? Am I missing something? Sorry for a delayed response! Yes - you've missed my propensity to mistype; :) correct it and you're there. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140321184220.ge4...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Wed 19 Mar 2014 at 21:57:44 +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: That sure cleared lot of things! We preesume you are now satisfied with the solution you have. There is nothing wrong with it but there is another aspect to the problem which you have actually observed. You have given all the relevant information in your posts and from it we can get another (but not necessarily better) solution. Re-read what Vincent Zweije wrote, especially his first mail. Then re-read the answers in the stackexchange link you gave, concentrating on what is said about specific and priority. Now re-read what you wrote: One more thing I would like to point out is that, the above outputs contains some extra lines in the output of 'xrdb -query that are *NOT* in my version of .Xresources. Like *customization: -color Xft.lcdfilter: lcddefault etc. (The etc was ok. I misunderstood; my previous comment on it can be ignored. :)) *customization: -color is from /etc/X11/Xresources/x11-common. It tells X what application specific resource file in /etc/X11/app-defaults to use. Normally the resource file used corresponds to the application name; for example, XTerm for xterm. The customization resource adds -color to the normal resource file name and so XTerm-color is used. Note that .Xresources is merged with XTerm-color but from your re-reading (and from your experience) you should realise it does not mean everything in it is applied. Take your *original* .Xresources and, in the light of your reading, look at the output (color1 etc in particular) of 'appres XTERM xterm'. Now add the line *customization: to the original .Xresources and run the appres command again, Can you predict what should happen to an xterm when you start X? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140320115858.gp26...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 11:32:04PM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: || So you mean to say that the resources were already being merged but || actually came into effect when I increased their priority or made them more || specific by add the class xterm* before the settings! The default resources can be found (on my system) under /etc/X11/app-defaults. If you look in the files for xterm, you'll see the default resource settings. The resources that you load yourself have to be at least as specific as those, otherwise the defaults override yours. Prefixing with xterm* normally makes your resources specific enough. || So my question is what do you mean by Xterm, and then how is xterm || different? || I can guess it has something to do with the class of applications/ instance || of applications! Play with editres. It's a bit clunky but may give you a feel about what classes and instances mean. By the way, the class for xterm is called XTerm, not Xterm. Vincent. -- Vincent Zweije vinc...@zweije.nl | If you're flamed in a group you http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/ | don't read, does anybody get burnt? [Xhost should be taken out and shot] |-- Paul Tomblin on a.s.r. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 23:32:04 +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: So my question is what do you mean by Xterm, and then how is xterm different? There is no meaning for Xterm without launching an xterm with the -name option. Do you mean XTerm? I can guess it has something to do with the class of applications/ instance of applications! Resources are specified with either instance*resource: value or class*resource: value The xprop program will tell you what the instance and class are. I have WM_CLASS(STRING) = xterm, XTerm xterm is the instance and XTerm the class. With your .Xresources I could use either to specify the resources. With xterm -name Xterm the class is unchanged but the instance is Xterm. xterm in your .Xresources now has no effect because it is not the instance name. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140319104002.go26...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
Thanks a lot Brian That sure cleared lot of things! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CA+Jf9AFyyJ02xgY+feMzTmRHsxXTQvhONuq1Qz5m2_ZJ50=v...@mail.gmail.com
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 06:02:33AM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: || The '-query' option to xrdb is useful. Interesting you used your original || .Xresources rather than one modified in the light of your experience. :) || || That;s because I want my .Xresources to work, I had made colorscheme || changes to it! || Here is the complete .Xresources that I am trying to use || http://paste.debian.net/88298/ || || The only thing that works for me is xrdb -load .Xresources and xrdb || .Xresources This suggests that the resources that are loaded into your X server by default contain settings with a higher priority than your own .Xresources. The xrdb -merge merges your settings, but leaves the higher priority resources there as well, so your settings seem to have no effect. The xrdb -load throws away all settings including the higher priority ones, thus letting your settings take effect. Use the appres tool to find out what the actual settings are that are loaded in your X server. If this confirms the theory, you can start finding out where the higher priority settings come from. Vincent. -- Vincent Zweije vinc...@zweije.nl | If you're flamed in a group you http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/ | don't read, does anybody get burnt? [Xhost should be taken out and shot] |-- Paul Tomblin on a.s.r. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
This suggests that the resources that are loaded into your X server by default contain settings with a higher priority than your own .Xresources. The xrdb -merge merges your settings, but leaves the higher priority resources there as well, so your settings seem to have no effect. The xrdb -load throws away all settings including the higher priority ones, thus letting your settings take effect. Use the appres tool to find out what the actual settings are that are loaded in your X server. If this confirms the theory, you can start finding out where the higher priority settings come from. Hi! appres tool gives me this output, and these are the same values that are in my current .Xresources! Any pointers? -- *color8:#505354 *color14: #899ca1 *color9:#ff5995 *background:#1b1d1e *color15: #f8f8f2 *color2:#82b414 *color0:#1b1d1e *customization: -color *color3:#fd971f *color1:#f92672 *foreground:#a0a0a0 *color4:#56c2d6 *color10: #b6e354 *color5:#8c54fe *color11: #feed6c *color6:#465457 *color12: #8cedff *color7:#c6 *color13: #9e6ffe Regards, Anubhav Yadav Imperial College of Engineering and Research, Pune. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca+jf9af5zy7zlt3iiwr8wk9o9b9f6pgyyp_vjzwvbskzcca...@mail.gmail.com
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 04:01:36PM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: || This suggests that the resources that are loaded into your X server || by default contain settings with a higher priority than your own || .Xresources. The xrdb -merge merges your settings, but leaves the || higher priority resources there as well, so your settings seem to have || no effect. The xrdb -load throws away all settings including the higher || priority ones, thus letting your settings take effect. || || Use the appres tool to find out what the actual settings are that are || loaded in your X server. If this confirms the theory, you can start || finding out where the higher priority settings come from. || || Hi! appres tool gives me this output, and these are the same values || that are in my current .Xresources! || Any pointers? || || -- *color8:#505354 || *color14: #899ca1 || *color9:#ff5995 || *background:#1b1d1e || *color15: #f8f8f2 || *color2:#82b414 || *color0:#1b1d1e || *customization: -color || *color3:#fd971f || *color1:#f92672 || *foreground:#a0a0a0 || *color4:#56c2d6 || *color10: #b6e354 || *color5:#8c54fe || *color11: #feed6c || *color6:#465457 || *color12: #8cedff || *color7:#c6 || *color13: #9e6ffe Are those the default settings, or did you run xrdb -load already? Vincent. -- Vincent Zweije vinc...@zweije.nl | If you're flamed in a group you http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/ | don't read, does anybody get burnt? [Xhost should be taken out and shot] |-- Paul Tomblin on a.s.r. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
Are those the default settings, or did you run xrdb -load already? No I haven't run xrdb -load .Xresources yet These are the same colors that I have used in my .Xresources. -- Regards, Anubhav Yadav Imperial College of Engineering and Research, Pune. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca+jf9ah6bz2q-79snhmfcwuvfhzacepk8vdid8onhrcd-h8...@mail.gmail.com
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 04:01:36PM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: || This suggests that the resources that are loaded into your X server || by default contain settings with a higher priority than your own || .Xresources. The xrdb -merge merges your settings, but leaves the || higher priority resources there as well, so your settings seem to have || no effect. The xrdb -load throws away all settings including the higher || priority ones, thus letting your settings take effect. || || Use the appres tool to find out what the actual settings are that are || loaded in your X server. If this confirms the theory, you can start || finding out where the higher priority settings come from. || || Hi! appres tool gives me this output, and these are the same values || that are in my current .Xresources! || Any pointers? || || -- *color8:#505354 || *color14: #899ca1 || *color9:#ff5995 || *background:#1b1d1e || *color15: #f8f8f2 || *color2:#82b414 || *color0:#1b1d1e || *customization: -color || *color3:#fd971f || *color1:#f92672 || *foreground:#a0a0a0 || *color4:#56c2d6 || *color10: #b6e354 || *color5:#8c54fe || *color11: #feed6c || *color6:#465457 || *color12: #8cedff || *color7:#c6 || *color13: #9e6ffe Memory fault, sorry. Try xrdb -query to see all resources being used. Alternatively, pass application class and instance name to appres, for example: appres XTerm xterm Vincent. -- Vincent Zweije vinc...@zweije.nl | If you're flamed in a group you http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/ | don't read, does anybody get burnt? [Xhost should be taken out and shot] |-- Paul Tomblin on a.s.r. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
Try xrdb -query Here is it output, the colors are exactly the same as in my .Xresources. *background:#1b1d1e *color0:#1b1d1e *color1:#f92672 *color10: #b6e354 *color11: #feed6c *color12: #8cedff *color13: #9e6ffe *color14: #899ca1 *color15: #f8f8f2 *color2:#82b414 *color3:#fd971f *color4:#56c2d6 *color5:#8c54fe *color6:#465457 *color7:#c6 *color8:#505354 *color9:#ff5995 *customization: -color *foreground:#a0a0a0 XTerm*ScrollBar:false XTerm*locale: true XTerm*metaSendsEscape: true XTerm*selectToClipboard:true Xcursor.theme: Pulse-Glass Xft.antialias: 1 Xft.autohint: 0 Xft.dpi:96 Xft.hinting:1 Xft.hintstyle: hintfull Xft.lcdfilter: lcddefault Xft.rgba: rgb Xterm*saveLines:9000 xterm*VT100.geometry: 80x32 xterm*eightBitInput:false xterm*faceName: xft:Inconsolata:size=15:antialias=true xterm*loginShell: true xterm*scaleHeight: 1.01 xterm*termName: xterm-256color One thing I will like to say that appres XTerm xterm Xterm*saveLines:9000 xterm*VT100.geometry: 80x32 xterm*scaleHeight: 1.01 xterm*faceName: xft:Inconsolata:size=15:antialias=true xterm*termName: xterm-256color xterm*loginShell: true xterm*eightBitInput:false *color7:#c6 *color13: #9e6ffe *color8:#505354 *color14: #899ca1 *color9:#ff5995 *background:#1b1d1e *color15: #f8f8f2 *color2:#82b414 *color0:#1b1d1e *customization: -color *color3:#fd971f *color1:#f92672 *foreground:#a0a0a0 *color4:#56c2d6 *color10: #b6e354 *color5:#8c54fe *color11: #feed6c *color6:#465457 *color12: #8cedff Again the colors are the same. One more thing I would like to point out is that, the above outputs contains some extra lines in the output of 'xrdb -query that are *NOT* in my version of .Xresources. Like *customization: -color Xft.lcdfilter: lcddefault etc. Also here is what my terminal looks like when I start my laptop and how it should look actually: http://imgur.com/a/C3EZi -- Regards, Anubhav Yadav Imperial College of Engineering and Research, Pune. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca+jf9ag+vymmw217206j+1hje-6dbqrols4qmwszwj6hwar...@mail.gmail.com
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 19:28:52 +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: One more thing I would like to point out is that, the above outputs contains some extra lines in the output of 'xrdb -query that are *NOT* in my version of .Xresources. Like *customization: -color Xft.lcdfilter: lcddefault You're getting there. :) Where do you think the other lines come from? What is your .Xresources merged with? etc. It's not very helpful to edit. (If it wasn't clear, I intended you to try the two lines I gave you earlier in your existing .Xresources, replacing the ones you have). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/18032014141806.19485039d...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
(If it wasn't clear, I intended you to try the two lines I gave you earlier in your existing .Xresources, replacing the ones you have). Sorry, I had the impression that you wanted me to stick to only that colors. Ok I cleared my .Xresources and now it has only these to lines. xterm*foreground:#fd971f xterm*background:#82b414 Restarting the laptop and firing up an xterm sure changes the colors according to .Xresources. Here is the output for -query neo1691@Innovator:~$ xrdb -query *customization: -color Xft.hinting:-1 Xft.hintstyle: hintnone xterm*background: #82b414 xterm*foreground: #fd971f Xft.antialias: -1 Xft.rgba: none Xcursor.theme: Adwaita Xcursor.theme_core: true Xcursor.size: 0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca+jf9aghqvwxxxgef7dhared-+p9a1ponjw_vjxbusrbrmq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 20:20:49 +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: (If it wasn't clear, I intended you to try the two lines I gave you earlier in your existing .Xresources, replacing the ones you have). Sorry, I had the impression that you wanted me to stick to only that colors. Ok I cleared my .Xresources and now it has only these to lines. It would have been sufficient to have just replaced the *foreground and *background lines. xterm*foreground:#fd971f xterm*background:#82b414 Restarting the laptop and firing up an xterm sure changes the colors according to .Xresources. There - it works. Is there anything you could do to your existing .Xresources to make the rest work? Or does it so already? Here is the output for -query neo1691@Innovator:~$ xrdb -query *customization: -color Xft.hinting:-1 Xft.hintstyle: hintnone xterm*background: #82b414 xterm*foreground: #fd971f Xft.antialias: -1 Xft.rgba: none Xcursor.theme: Adwaita Xcursor.theme_core: true Xcursor.size: 0 Now do 'xrdb .Xresources' or 'xrdb -load .Xresources' (they are the same command; please see (xrdb(1)). Notice any difference? Why should there be one? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/18032014150957.ae7e9d40a...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
There - it works. Is there anything you could do to your existing .Xresources to make the rest work? Or does it so already? Thanks a lot, I solved it. Just had to change all instances of *color# to xterm*color# As simple as that! What I liked more was instead of giving me direct solution you motivated me to find the solution myself. Cheers for that. Can I change my subject header and all [SOLVED] to it? Because last time I did it, the mail went as a new thread on the mailing list! Thanks again, really appreciated your time and effort! -- Regards, Anubhav Yadav Imperial College of Engineering and Research, Pune. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CA+Jf9AEgKoXbjrjWPWGnz6qMr8aZXJ+ZazVN1HKiK1Bbnxn=8...@mail.gmail.com
SOLVED: Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Tuesday 18 March 2014 15:47:47 Anubhav Yadav wrote: Can I change my subject header and all [SOLVED] to it? Because last time I did it, the mail went as a new thread on the mailing list! No, it went as a new thread on Gmail. Gmail routinely breaks threading. It's a pain. :-( It's one of the reasons that I use Gmail as my address - but download to a proper email client. I have marked this as SOLVED for you. Unfortunately, Gmail will therefore start a newconversation. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201403181556.58253.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 21:17:47 +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: There - it works. Is there anything you could do to your existing .Xresources to make the rest work? Or does it so already? Thanks a lot, I solved it. Just had to change all instances of *color# to xterm*color# As simple as that! What I liked more was instead of giving me direct solution you motivated me to find the solution myself. Cheers for that. Just in case: the command xrdb -merge .Xresources is definitely run when X is called. The resources in .Xresources are merged with those in /etc/X11. If you issue the same command from a terminal nothing happens to alter the resources available because they have already been merged. xrdb .Xresources (xrdb -load .Xresources) wipes out the resources loaded from /etc/X11 and gives you only what is in .Xresources. Your initial understanding of this led you away from a solution to the actual problem. Not to worry; everyone does it and everybody learns. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140318161341.gl26...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
Just in case: the command xrdb -merge .Xresources is definitely run when X is called. The resources in .Xresources are merged with those in /etc/X11. If you issue the same command from a terminal nothing happens to alter the resources available because they have already been merged. xrdb .Xresources (xrdb -load .Xresources) wipes out the resources loaded from /etc/X11 and gives you only what is in .Xresources. Your initial understanding of this led you away from a solution to the actual problem. Not to worry; everyone does it and everybody learns. :) So you mean to say that the resources were already being merged but actually came into effect when I increased their priority or made them more specific by add the class xterm* before the settings! I tried to do this before, I remember very well, but I used Xterm instead of xterm. It was mentioned here. http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90608/xterm-not-loading-color-schemes When that never worked I posted on the mailing list. So my question is what do you mean by Xterm, and then how is xterm different? I can guess it has something to do with the class of applications/ instance of applications! -- Regards, Anubhav Yadav Imperial College of Engineering and Research, Pune. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca+jf9aen5gqhu4ysat4fg0upz01yxehgcft5y17p6kalou2...@mail.gmail.com
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Mon 17 Mar 2014 at 04:22:12 +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: Running startx logged me in to xfce, I opened up a xterm and the background was red. Fine; the recommended line works. Next I enabled lightdm: #update-rc.d lightdm enable Rebooted and from lightdm logged in to i3. Opened up an xterm and the background was red. We seem to be able to rule out lightdm as the problem. Now I used my original .Xresources and reboot. Again same error! 'xrdb -merge .Xresources' and 'xrdb -overide .Xresources' will not work The '-query' option to xrdb is useful. Interesting you used your original .Xresources rather than one modified in the light of your experience. :) Try xterm*foreground:#fd971f xterm*background:#82b414 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/17032014161305.09b0d2c7a...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
The '-query' option to xrdb is useful. Interesting you used your original .Xresources rather than one modified in the light of your experience. :) That;s because I want my .Xresources to work, I had made colorscheme changes to it! Here is the complete .Xresources that I am trying to use http://paste.debian.net/88298/ The only thing that works for me is xrdb -load .Xresources and xrdb .Xresources -- Regards, Anubhav Yadav Imperial College of Engineering and Research, Pune. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca+jf9ahgiqedvvtj10xzju4gm12mehjlbzjxvpaqicru4+k...@mail.gmail.com
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 06:02:33AM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: The '-query' option to xrdb is useful. Interesting you used your original .Xresources rather than one modified in the light of your experience. :) That;s because I want my .Xresources to work, I had made colorscheme changes to it! What happens if you copy 'n' paste lines from the so called faulty file to the working one? IOW, for some reason your .Xresources is faulty or you have a crook entry. You have a good one (the one which gives you the red background) which you have proved works, so test each entry from the faulty .Xresources in the good one. Eventually, the files will be identical, but hopefully you'll find the problem by then. :) -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140318034556.GB22947@tal
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 10:22:21AM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: Solved. Are you sure? What do you think will happen on an upgrade of Xorg? I edited the file /etc/X11/Xsession.d/30x11-common_xresources and changed the xorg -merge ... lines to xorge ... and it worked. I don't know if it is a good solution or not! Weird! What did you read that advised changing xorg to xorge? P.S. I got lost in your original mail. I hope you've kept a record as to what changes you made to any system files. Also, don't just edit a system file, but comment out the line you are changing and add the altered line below it. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140316103621.GE18433@tal
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
Weird! What did you read that advised changing xorg to xorge? Damn I don't know what happened to me while typing. Sorry. \ This is what I actually did! The original line was xrdb -merge $RESOURCEFILE and xrdb -merge $USRRESOURCES I just removed the -merge options. And I made the changes in this file: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/30x11-common_xresources I have made a backup of the above file! Just to be safe! -- Regards, Anubhav Yadav Imperial College of Engineering and Research, Pune. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca+jf9agd9r+efo_m81cwf+raq8-aad73bbdzrjzrdzf5w6n...@mail.gmail.com
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Sun 16 Mar 2014 at 10:22:21 +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
Solved.
I edited the file /etc/X11/Xsession.d/30x11-common_xresources and
changed the xorg -merge ... lines to xorge ... and it worked.
I don't know if it is a good solution or not!
I'd see it as a defeat because you are altering a system file to achieve
something which is capable of being done under your own user.
You need to get back to something basic which works.
1. Prevent lightdm from being started:
update-rc.d lightdm disable('enable' reverts this).
2. Delete $HOME/.Xdefaults (It's not used).
3. Delete $HOME/.xinitrc (It fouls up Debian's X).
4. Move $HOME/.xsession out of the way.
5. Repair self-inficted damage with
apt-get --reinstall install x11-common
6. Have 'xterm*background: red' as the only line in $HOME/.Xresources.
7. Reboot, execute startx and bring up an xterm.
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Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Sun 16 Mar 2014 at 23:36:21 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 10:22:21AM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: Solved. Are you sure? What do you think will happen on an upgrade of Xorg? To help him with thinking this through he should find out what a conffile is. Then dpkg -S /etc/X11/Xsession.d/30x11-common_xresources followed by dpkg --status package -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/16032014113342.2605202a7...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On 2014-03-15, Anubhav Yadav anubhav1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Suddenly my .Xresources are not working on startup. Meaning I have to manually startup a terminal and issue xrdb .Xresources and restart the shell to see my colors. I am using(learning to use) i3 although I have xfce installed, and I start i3/xfce from lightdm. Is it this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm/+bug/1084885 And this workaround? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LightDM#Xresources_not_being_parsed_correctly -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnlibl8l.33d.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
Okay before doing what you stated, I restored the file
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/30x11-
common_xresources to original
1. Prevent lightdm from being started:
update-rc.d lightdm disable('enable' reverts this).
Done
2. Delete $HOME/.Xdefaults (It's not used).
Never used it in the first place.
3. Delete $HOME/.xinitrc (It fouls up Debian's X).
I tried to use it never worked. So deleted it.
4. Move $HOME/.xsession out of the way.
Its not there.
5. Repair self-inficted damage with
apt-get --reinstall install x11-common
Ok did this too!
6. Have 'xterm*background: red' as the only line in $HOME/.Xresources.
Ok
7. Reboot, execute startx and bring up an xterm.
Here are my results:
Running startx logged me in to xfce, I opened up a xterm and the
background was red.
Next I enabled lightdm: #update-rc.d lightdm enable
Rebooted and from lightdm logged in to i3.
Opened up an xterm and the background was red.
Now I used my original .Xresources and reboot. Again same error!
'xrdb -merge .Xresources' and 'xrdb -overide .Xresources' will not work
Regards,
Anubhav Yadav
Imperial College of Engineering and Research,
Pune.
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Re: .Xresources not loading on start
Is it this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm/+bug/1084885 And this workaround? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LightDM#Xresources_not_being_parsed_correctly Yes I tried the workaround mentioned here before posting on the list. Still thanks for talking out time and helping me out here. Much appreciated. -- Regards, Anubhav Yadav Imperial College of Engineering and Research, Pune. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca+jf9ag6joykzanblywbycj3myp3i52owg3xcwe-sk+r-8b...@mail.gmail.com
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 4:36 AM, Anubhav Yadav anubhav1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Suddenly my .Xresources are not working on startup. Meaning I have to manually startup a terminal and issue xrdb .Xresources and restart the shell to see my colors. I am using(learning to use) i3 although I have xfce installed, and I start i3/xfce from lightdm. Now I remember doing two things after which this started happening: 1) I changed the colors of my .Xresources from base16-tomorrow to molokai. Here is my .Xresources http://paste.debian.net/87922 To be a little more precise, the previous scheme had the colors defined like this: #define t_background #1d1f21 #define t_current_line #282a2e #define t_selection #373b41 #define t_foreground #c5c8c6 #define t_comment #969896 #define t_red #cc #define t_orange #de935f #define t_yellow #f0c674 #define t_green #b5bd68 #define t_aqua #8abeb7 #define t_blue #81a2be #define t_purple #b294bb *.foreground: t_foreground *.background: t_background *.cursorColor: #aeafad ! Black / Grey *.color0: #00 *.color8: #66 ! Red / Bright Red *.color1: t_red *.color9: #FF3334 ! Green + Bright Green *.color2: t_green *.color10: #9ec400 .. [snipped] And the new colors are directly put like this !Molokai terminal colours *foreground:#a0a0a0 *background:#1b1d1e !molokai inspired colors !black *color0:#1b1d1e *color8:#505354 !red *color1:#f92672 *color9:#ff5995 !green *color2:#82b414 *color10: #b6e354 !yellow *color3:#fd971f *color11: #feed6c !blue *color4:#56c2d6 *color12: #8cedff [..snipped..] 2) I edited the file /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and added this line: user-session=i3 to make i3 as default in i3. 3) I created a file ~/.xessionrc and added the line to it export PATH=$HOME/bin:$PATH Sorry pressed the send button by mistake: Here is the continuation So I created the above file so that I could run scripts from ~/bin in dmenu. These 3 steps I remember doing after which my .Xresources failed to load on startup. Now I already reverted steps 2 and 3, but even now that won't help. These are the things I tried: 1) I changed to format of the colors from *background to xterm*background or Xterm.VT100.background but that wont help. 2) I created a symlink .Xdefaults to .Xresources but that won't work either. 3) I also created ~/.xinitrc and added the line xrdb -load .Xresources to it, but that won't help either. Interesting thing to note is that only xrdb .Xresources will work after boot. Not xrdb -merge .Xresources neither xrdb -overide .Xresources Any help? And sorry for the reply to my own mail to complete my question! -- Regards, Anubhav Yadav Imperial College of Engineering and Research, Pune. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca+jf9agxeykw_ooedjqnqzxb-q2qecjutdnrezun0hzinbn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 4:51 AM, John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell johnandsa...@cox.net wrote: i wrote this: http://sourceforge.net/p/xdm-options/ it launches window manager desktop pairs. you might see something in it that helps this seems simple. back off your recent changes and change only one thing at a time. you can then say which change caused a problem i would guess an exit 1 signaled by any app during the X starup might give you headaches. it's better to wait until after X starts (run a script then) unless you got everything down or are doing something special. Hi, Thanks for taking out time and replying. Is that a complete new display manager. Does it have a package for debian? Also I pressed the send button my mistake, so I completed my question in the next mail. Its link is, https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/03/msg00888.html -- Regards, Anubhav Yadav Imperial College of Engineering and Research, Pune. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca+jf9ahem0fsdwaoanx0nbhx4z8doh74qylwzo3zfqjzzfo...@mail.gmail.com
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
Solved. I edited the file /etc/X11/Xsession.d/30x11-common_xresources and changed the xorg -merge ... lines to xorge ... and it worked. I don't know if it is a good solution or not! Regards, Anubhav Yadav Imperial College of Engineering and Research, Pune. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca+jf9ah0pe1eq+krgvgzmabfv+cy4eeguz_zsef2waymgeo...@mail.gmail.com
