Re: 2D desktop Wheezy
Op 28-06-12 10:58, Ralf Mardorf schreef: On Thu, 2012-06-28 at 10:32 +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote: I would like to see the 2D desktop in Wheezy. How can I see it on a modern machine with Intel graphics? Background: when I remote login I see a wrong 2D desktop, but I don't know how the good 2D desktop is.. Your desktop environment is GNOME 3? Yes. What windows manager do you use? I suspect the default, but not everybody knows what the default for wheezy is. At least I don't know. update-alternatives --config x-window-manager says I am using Metacity, and that's the only installed windows-manager. Maybe Metacity is the place to force a 2D desktop, but finding the configuration is not easy. No config file and nothing in gconf-editor. I found that they both switched to gsettings and dconf: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/GSettingsMigration dconf-editor can do the configuration, in org | gnome. But, nothing about 2D there... I was a bit confused about Mutter. That's Metacity + clutter. There are some packages installed like mutter-common, so I found some settings in dconf-editor about it. But the package with the binaries (mutter) is not installed. I don't have any issue using squeeze, but on Arch (a rolling release = always upgraded to latest version) for Xfce4 for example (no 3D windows manager), Evolution has a borked color theme, perhaps such effects encounter for Debian testing now too. The freedom to use what ever DE, with what ever apps on Linux is bygone. GNOME 3 stuff does follow a little bit the MS/Apple approach :p. Is here somebody who knows how to force a 2D desktop? With regards, Paul van der Vlis. -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer, Groningen http://www.vandervlis.nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fed6866.8010...@vandervlis.nl
Re: 2D desktop Wheezy
Op 28-06-12 17:02, Camaleón schreef: On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:32:49 +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote: I would like to see the 2D desktop in Wheezy. How can I see it on a modern machine with Intel graphics? What do you mean by 2D desktop? There are many 2D desktops available... The default 2D Gnome3 desktop. Background: when I remote login I see a wrong 2D desktop, but I don't know how the good 2D desktop is.. What's wrong or right for you? I miss parts of the menu. Unless you upload/attach a snapshot so we can compare the both desktops you get we can't guess what the problem can be :-) You cannot compare one desktop, that's the reason that I am looking for the 2D desktop on the machine. But... I just found a way how to see the 2D desktop: - In GDM, click others. Now there is a new item Desktop. - Choose Gnome Classic. - Don't forget to give your username, otherwise GDM will freeze. Then you get the 2D desktop! With regards, Paul van der Vlis. -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer, Groningen http://www.vandervlis.nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fed75f1.8060...@vandervlis.nl
Re: 2D desktop Wheezy
On Fri, 2012-06-29 at 11:31 +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote: - Choose Gnome Classic. Then you get the 2D desktop! This option soon or later will be dropped. But even a GNOME 2 desktop based on Metacity perhaps could need 3D acceleration, at least I guess it will be needed for real transparency. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340964694.2148.20.camel@precise
Re: 2D desktop Wheezy
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:31:29 +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote: Op 28-06-12 17:02, Camaleón schreef: What do you mean by 2D desktop? There are many 2D desktops available... The default 2D Gnome3 desktop. Ah, okay, you mean GNOME fallback or gnome-classical desktop. Background: when I remote login I see a wrong 2D desktop, but I don't know how the good 2D desktop is.. What's wrong or right for you? I miss parts of the menu. The top/bottom menu, the main menu...? And what's exactly what you miss for there? Sir, if you are not a bit more precise we can't make but blindly guess :-) Unless you upload/attach a snapshot so we can compare the both desktops you get we can't guess what the problem can be :-) You cannot compare one desktop, that's the reason that I am looking for the 2D desktop on the machine. We can compare if we do see how the two look like :-) But... I just found a way how to see the 2D desktop: - In GDM, click others. Now there is a new item Desktop. - Choose Gnome Classic. - Don't forget to give your username, otherwise GDM will freeze. If you don't select a user from the list neither manually write the username, GDM will not freeze but does nothing, is waiting four your input. Then you get the 2D desktop! Oh, sure! Glad you finally got it. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jskcrs$68h$6...@dough.gmane.org
Re: 2D desktop Wheezy
Hallo, In de gdm greeter zou je moeten kiezen voor 'Gnome Classic' als desktop. On 27/06/12 11:01, Paul van der Vlis wrote: Hallo, Normaal start op Wheezy de 3D desktop, is er hier iemand die weet hoe ik de 2D desktop te zien krijg? Achtergrond: Als ik inlog via een remote-access systeem zie ik een rare desktop waarop onderdelen ontbreken, tenminste dat denk ik. Waarschijnlijk is dit de 2D desktop, maar niet helemaal correct. Daarom wil ik graag een correcte 2D desktop zien om het te vergelijken. Groet, Paul. -- Matijs signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: 2D desktop Wheezy
Op 29-06-12 08:40, Matijs van Zuijlen schreef: Hallo, In de gdm greeter zou je moeten kiezen voor 'Gnome Classic' als desktop. Ha fijn, klopt! Je moet overigens eerst klikken op anderen, pas dan komt de keuze voor de desktop in beeld en kun je kiezen voor Gnome Classic. Vergeet overigens niet om de username in te tikken, want zonder username loopt GDM vast zag ik. Ik had overigens nog flink lopen zoeken, en kwam er achter dat Metacity geen gconf meer gebruikt voor zijn configuratie, maar nu dconf... Groet, Paul. On 27/06/12 11:01, Paul van der Vlis wrote: Hallo, Normaal start op Wheezy de 3D desktop, is er hier iemand die weet hoe ik de 2D desktop te zien krijg? Achtergrond: Als ik inlog via een remote-access systeem zie ik een rare desktop waarop onderdelen ontbreken, tenminste dat denk ik. Waarschijnlijk is dit de 2D desktop, maar niet helemaal correct. Daarom wil ik graag een correcte 2D desktop zien om het te vergelijken. Groet, Paul. -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer, Groningen http://www.vandervlis.nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-dutch-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 2D desktop Wheezy
On Thu, 2012-06-28 at 10:32 +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote: I would like to see the 2D desktop in Wheezy. How can I see it on a modern machine with Intel graphics? Background: when I remote login I see a wrong 2D desktop, but I don't know how the good 2D desktop is.. Your desktop environment is GNOME 3? What windows manager do you use? I suspect the default, but not everybody knows what the default for wheezy is. At least I don't know. I don't have any issue using squeeze, but on Arch (a rolling release = always upgraded to latest version) for Xfce4 for example (no 3D windows manager), Evolution has a borked color theme, perhaps such effects encounter for Debian testing now too. The freedom to use what ever DE, with what ever apps on Linux is bygone. GNOME 3 stuff does follow a little bit the MS/Apple approach :p. - Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340873924.1378.43.camel@localhost.localdomain
Re: 2D desktop Wheezy
On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:32:49 +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote: I would like to see the 2D desktop in Wheezy. How can I see it on a modern machine with Intel graphics? What do you mean by 2D desktop? There are many 2D desktops available... Background: when I remote login I see a wrong 2D desktop, but I don't know how the good 2D desktop is.. What's wrong or right for you? Unless you upload/attach a snapshot so we can compare the both desktops you get we can't guess what the problem can be :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jshrm5$no$7...@dough.gmane.org
