Re: Applixware 5 on Debian slink, potato or woody?

[Stefan Bellon]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   Pap Tibor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm using applixware 4 on a Debian Potato system. I have an old
> Pentium 100 with 64Mb RAM only. It looks fine, can read files coming
> from MS office, and very fast. It takes only few seconds to startup
> om my machine. So I don't know any good reason to upgrade it, or
> change it to another office suit.

The reason to upgrade is the fact that Applixware 4.4.1 is very buggy.
I had the chance to prepare a presentation with it last week and at
least the ApplixPresent part (or how it is called) is more than buggy!
I hope this is solved in Applixware 5.

I don't know of any other /good/ presentation software for GNU/Linux.
StarOffice is that slow, you can't use it, and GNOME hasn't one yet. I
know there's KPresent, but as I don't have any QT packages installed ...

Greetings,

Stefan.

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Re: Applixware 5 on Debian slink, potato or woody?

[Pap Tibor]

Hi!

I'm using applixware 4 on a Debian Potato system. I have an old Pentium
100 with 64Mb RAM only. It looks fine, can read files coming from MS
office, and very fast. It takes only few seconds to startup om my machine.
So I don't know any good reason to upgrade it, or change it to another
office suit.

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On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Stefan Bellon wrote:
> 
> sbello >Now I'd like to know whether anybody has experience with the later
> sbello >Applixware 5 on Debian systems. Does it install without problems?
> 
> installs flawlessly, runs like crap though. for some reason it takes about
> 5 minutes to load on a p3-500 128MB. tries to load some font server?? or
> something i dunno i gave up on it, feels worse then corel office, which
> annoys me when it wont load while mp3s are playing and crashes like mad.
> 
> sbello >I know that it's against the Debian GNU philosophy, but if there's no
> sbello >other application suite with the same features, then I think it's 
> still
> sbello >better than using PowerPoint (that soft of application is the one I'm
> sbello >looking for at most) the other operating system.
> 
> i liked applixware 4 more, staroffice feels good compared to applixware5
> and corel!
> 
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Re: Applixware 5 on Debian slink, potato or woody?

[Pedro I. Sanchez]

Aplixware 5.0 runs well for me under Potato. No problems at all with the
installation.

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Re: Applixware 5 on Debian slink, potato or woody?

[Kerstin Hoef-Emden]

Hi,

On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Stefan Bellon wrote:

> A friend of mine runs Applixware 4.4.1 on his Debian system (mixture of
> potato and woody). But he says that it's quite buggy and looks
> outdated. But otherwise it performs quite well. For the installation he
> took the RPMs and alienated them to deb packages. Then he make a link
> from /opt to /usr/local before installing them with dpkg.

I have got Applixware 4.4.1 running on my Alpha with potato installed
and am a little bit surprised. This soft always seemed quite stable to
me. I had trouble to install the RPMs under RedHat 5.2 using the
install executable. So they were installed in fiddling out the
dependencies and using the RedHat packet manager. Under Debian the
contrary did happen: The install executable worked perfectly well,
unpacking and installing the RPMs without conversion to *.deb on the
Debian system.
 
> Now I'd like to know whether anybody has experience with the later
> Applixware 5 on Debian systems. Does it install without problems?

I leave this to others to answer.

> I know that it's against the Debian GNU philosophy, but if there's no
> other application suite with the same features, then I think it's still
> better than using PowerPoint (that soft of application is the one I'm
> looking for at most) the other operating system.

It should be up to everyone to decide. I am writing my publications on
the machine. The stuff has to be exportable to Word. More and more
journals insist on WinWord written text send on a floppy together with
the printouts. With Applix, I just have to feed the rtf once into one of
those Windows beasts at the institute to convert it to a real WinWord
doc. (If they do not crash as soon as I just look at them. ;-)  )


Regards,

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Re: Applixware 5 on Debian slink, potato or woody?

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Stefan Bellon wrote:

sbello >Now I'd like to know whether anybody has experience with the later
sbello >Applixware 5 on Debian systems. Does it install without problems?

installs flawlessly, runs like crap though. for some reason it takes about
5 minutes to load on a p3-500 128MB. tries to load some font server?? or
something i dunno i gave up on it, feels worse then corel office, which
annoys me when it wont load while mp3s are playing and crashes like mad.

sbello >I know that it's against the Debian GNU philosophy, but if there's no
sbello >other application suite with the same features, then I think it's still
sbello >better than using PowerPoint (that soft of application is the one I'm
sbello >looking for at most) the other operating system.

i liked applixware 4 more, staroffice feels good compared to applixware5
and corel!

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Re: ApplixWare

[Bob Nielsen]

On 8 Oct 1998, Ruud de Bruin wrote:

> I have bought the latest version of ApplixWare and I would like to add
> ApplixWare to WindowMaker so I can start it from there.
> 
> I've created an entry in /etc/menu like:
> 
> ?package(applix):needs="x11" section="Apps/Editors" icon="none"
> title="APPLIX" command="..."
> 
> However, after running update-menus APPLIX is not added to the menus. What
> am I doing wrong?

Since it is not a Debian package, you should use:

?package(local.applix):needs="x11" section="Apps/Editors" icon="none" 
 title="APPLIX" command="..."

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Re: ApplixWare

[Stephen J. Carpenter]

On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 06:51:33PM +, Ruud de Bruin wrote:
> I have bought the latest version of ApplixWare and I would like to add
> ApplixWare to WindowMaker so I can start it from there.
> 
> I've created an entry in /etc/menu like:
> 
> ?package(applix):needs="x11" section="Apps/Editors" icon="none"
> title="APPLIX" command="..."
> 
> However, after running update-menus APPLIX is not added to the menus. What
> am I doing wrong?
> 
> Regards, Ruud.

Thats because there is no package named applix...
you can...
A) Get equivs and make an empty package with that name 

or (EASIER)

B) RTFM and realize that any package name begining with local. is addumed
 installed

?package(local.applix):needs="x11" section="Apps/Editors" icon="none"
title="APPLIX" command="..."


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Re: ApplixWare

[Martin Schulze]

Ruud de Bruin wrote:
> I have bought the latest version of ApplixWare and I would like to add
> ApplixWare to WindowMaker so I can start it from there.
> 
> I've created an entry in /etc/menu like:
> 
> ?package(applix):needs="x11" section="Apps/Editors" icon="none"
> title="APPLIX" command="..."
> 
> However, after running update-menus APPLIX is not added to the menus. What
> am I doing wrong?

Do you have a package installed that it named "applix"?  Does
"dpkg -s applix" display information about it?  If not, menu
won't do either.

You need to use the name of an existing package.

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Re: applixware

[Paul Miller]

Did you install applixware as the rpms or apply the Debian patches?

hmm..  Well, I still have the problem with rhmask

-Paul

On Sat, 16 May 1998, Greg Norris wrote:

> I've got Applixware 4.3.7 installed sucessfully on a bo system.  In my
> case, however, it was a new installation of the product, rather than an
> upgrade.  So I didn't have to worry about rhmask...
> 
> On Sat, May 16, 1998 at 05:33:39AM -0400, Paul Miller wrote:
> > 
> > Anyone have Applixware 4.3.7 installed on a Debian system?  I'm having
> > trouble upgrading from 4.3 to 4.3.7 using RedHat's rpmmask files..  I
> > tried copying the rhmask program from RedHat, but it doesn't work for some
> > reason...  Any ideas?
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Re: applixware

[Greg Norris]

I've got Applixware 4.3.7 installed sucessfully on a bo system.  In my
case, however, it was a new installation of the product, rather than an
upgrade.  So I didn't have to worry about rhmask...

On Sat, May 16, 1998 at 05:33:39AM -0400, Paul Miller wrote:
> 
> Anyone have Applixware 4.3.7 installed on a Debian system?  I'm having
> trouble upgrading from 4.3 to 4.3.7 using RedHat's rpmmask files..  I
> tried copying the rhmask program from RedHat, but it doesn't work for some
> reason...  Any ideas?


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Re: Applixware- user view needed

[Damir J. Naden]

Thanks to everyone who offered help on this matter. I had hoped this program
would have been somewhat smaller...Sigh. I'm using Lyx on top of tetex for WP
and experimenting with xesslite for SS (which is quite nice, actually).
Xesslite takes up only about 4 Mb (with examples and html help files), and it
is very capable. I thought only MS makes office suites over 100 mb.
Nature of the beast, I guess...
thanks to everybody

Damir


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Re: Applixware- user view needed

[Joey Hess]

Damir J. Naden wrote:
> I would like to know what HD space one needs to install applixware office
> suite? I have searched high and low for this piece of info to no avail.

Package: applix
Installed-Size: 53801

Package: applix-english
Installed-Size: 53450

So about 107MB total.

> And
> while we are at it, can someone give me a feedback on spreadsheet part of the
> suite: does it provide a function similar to the one found on Corel's Quattro
> called "optimizer" or some such thing - basically a goal seeking tool for two
> or three variables at the same time?

No idea, I don't use spreadsheets.

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Re: Applixware- user view needed

[Corey Miller]

On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Damir J. Naden wrote:

> I would like to know what HD space one needs to install applixware office
> suite? I have searched high and low for this piece of info to no avail. And
> while we are at it, can someone give me a feedback on spreadsheet part of the
> suite: does it provide a function similar to the one found on Corel's Quattro
> called "optimizer" or some such thing - basically a goal seeking tool for two
> or three variables at the same time?

My install takes about 250 megs. I installed the office suite,
English manuals, and English dictionary. However, I haven't made use of
the spreadsheet program yet :).

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Re: applixware 4.3 install on debian system

[Joey Hess]

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> I am wanting to install applixware 4.3 on my debian system and would
> like some advice as the best way to approach it. should i use alien to
> convert the rpm packages or just run the install script or what? what
> has proved successful for others?

Alien has special support for converting applix to a .deb package. 
(A diff file that moves things around so you don't need a huge /opt 
directory to put applix in, debian menu system support, etc.)

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Re: applixware 4.3 install on debian system

[Nathan O. Siemers]

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> I am wanting to install applixware 4.3 on my debian system and would
> like some advice as the best way to approach it. should i use alien to
> convert the rpm packages or just run the install script or what? what
> has proved successful for others?
> 

For Applix 4.3.7, on my recently hammed debian system, I ran the
install script with no problems whatsoever. 

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Re: Applixware

[stick]

I've been using Applixware under Debian for several months.
> 
> 
> I, too, am interested in the compatability especially when it comes to power
> point and word.
> 
There have only been a few times I've tried reading MS Word files, it worked 
once, failed
once.  I've output RTF files that were somewhat complex with only one known 
formatting
error.  (I say known because I never did see the end result to make a 
comparison...)

> There are a lot of people out there with old SPARC stations on their networks
> that are replacing them with NT workstations because Sun wants an arm and a 
> leg
> to upgrade them to Ultra's.  Linux with Applixware and CDE might make a nice,
> low-cost alternative on the IPC/IPX platform.  I suppose I am going to have
> to wait for Debian SPARC and just test it myself.
> 
There are many (OK, a couple) of options other than Applixware.  To be 
complete, I'd
suggest checking out Star Office and whatever version of WP Office Caldera is 
selling.

> 
> On 25-Oct-97 Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Has anybody experience with Applixware Office suit (sold by redhat) on a 
> > Debian system? Is the installation procedure straight forward? Can you give 
> > comments on the compatibility of the file formats of Applixware, MS Word 
> > and 
> > Ms Powerpoint?
> > 
I've *never* used any of the MS Office products.  Applixware is the first 
GUI-based
package I've needed to use.  However, an associate of mine who has had a bit of 
MS
experience doesn't care for the latest version of Applixware - he feels it's 
about
two versions behind MS in functionality.  Applix's apparent internal structure 
should
lend itself to improved functionality quite easily, so this may change.

> > Thank you.
> > 
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> > 
Let me know if you would like more information regarding my experiences with 
Applix.
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RE: Applixware

[George Bonser]

I, too, am interested in the compatability especially when it comes to power
point and word.

There are a lot of people out there with old SPARC stations on their networks
that are replacing them with NT workstations because Sun wants an arm and a leg
to upgrade them to Ultra's.  Linux with Applixware and CDE might make a nice,
low-cost alternative on the IPC/IPX platform.  I suppose I am going to have
to wait for Debian SPARC and just test it myself.


On 25-Oct-97 Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> 
> 
> Has anybody experience with Applixware Office suit (sold by redhat) on a 
> Debian system? Is the installation procedure straight forward? Can you give 
> comments on the compatibility of the file formats of Applixware, MS Word and 
> Ms Powerpoint?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
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Re: Applixware

[Adam Shand]

> Has anybody experience with Applixware Office suit (sold by redhat) on a 
> Debian system? Is the installation procedure straight forward? Can you give 
> comments on the compatibility of the file formats of Applixware, MS Word and 
> Ms Powerpoint?

I have used Applixware but not a lot.  The installation isn't hard but the
easiest way to do it (that I have found anyway) is to convert the .rpm
fils that it comes with to .deb packages using alien.  I would make sure
you have a recent version of dpkg-dev for alien to work properly.

It does load word files from what little testing I've done, but it doesn't
always do it perfectly.

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Re: Applixware

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> Chad, figure out how to make a "patch" file for applix and people will
> then be able to use alien with the "patch" file on the applix rpm to get a
> good deb from it.
> 
> Shaya

Since I have the .deb of rpm installed (2.3.8-1), I was able to
install using the install program on the Applix cd. 

(Since everything is installed in /opt/applix, there's no real point
in creating an applix.deb file. If I want to uninstall, rm -rf
will do the trick.)

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Re: Applixware

[Shaya Potter]

Chad, figure out how to make a "patch" file for applix and people will
then be able to use alien with the "patch" file on the applix rpm to get a
good deb from it.

Shaya


On Thu, 28 Aug 1997, Chad D. Zimmerman wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, Mr Stuart Lamble wrote:
> 
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> > : On Mon, 25 Aug 1997 06:56:55 -0400, Tom Malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > : > Is anyone using redhats applixware on debian?  How is it?  The install
> > : > difficult? Is it worth buying?  I want to migrate away from msoffice and
> > : > use linux exclusively if possible.  Thanks
> > : > 
> > : 
> > : Try out StarOffice before you decide which office suit to use together
> > : with Linux. I have found it very nice ... and version 3.1 is free if
> > : you use it in a non-commercial purpose.
> > : 
> > : Check it out at:
> > : http://www.stardiv.de/
> > : 
> > : I don't think you'll find any difficulties installing Applixware. If
> > : I'm right there is an non-rpm installation included on the cd.
> > 
> > I've had a play around with StarOffice; the main reason I didn't get it
> > is because I don't have a 'Net connection at home, and the prospect of
> > lugging everything back on 1.44MB floppies doesn't really appeal. I've
> > forked out $99AUS for the student edition of Applixware; it's nice. Very
> > nice. My only beef: the non-rpm installation tries to install everything
> > into /opt. Not a good move, especially since my 30MB root partition only
> > had 15MB free
> 
> Use the .rpm and run `alien applix*.rpm`, after some quik debugging and
> installing dpkg-dev from hamm and 3 hours of building ... slow system
> here.  I installed the created .deb and have been using it all day ...
> very nice .. better than Star Office which had quit wanting to run at all.
>  
> > I ended up test driving Redhat for a while on my /home partition (don't
> > ask, please); whilst I was dding that, I installed Applixware somewhere
> > in /usr/local. (under Debian, that would have been /home/usr/local/ ...
> > as I said, don't ask :)
> > 
> > Tar it up, untar it into the Debian /usr/local heirachy, and everything is
> > happy happy joy joy. (with some script editing, of course.) One of these
> > days, I might get around to doing some work on an installation package. In
> > my Copious Spare Time, naturally. ;)
> 
> I have the applix.deb now .. even though it is 37MB .. no way in hades am
> I gona delete it ... don't wana go through all that alien stuff again.
> 
> chad
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Re: Applixware

[Chad D. Zimmerman]

On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, Mr Stuart Lamble wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> : On Mon, 25 Aug 1997 06:56:55 -0400, Tom Malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : > Is anyone using redhats applixware on debian?  How is it?  The install
> : > difficult? Is it worth buying?  I want to migrate away from msoffice and
> : > use linux exclusively if possible.  Thanks
> : > 
> : 
> : Try out StarOffice before you decide which office suit to use together
> : with Linux. I have found it very nice ... and version 3.1 is free if
> : you use it in a non-commercial purpose.
> : 
> : Check it out at:
> : http://www.stardiv.de/
> : 
> : I don't think you'll find any difficulties installing Applixware. If
> : I'm right there is an non-rpm installation included on the cd.
> 
> I've had a play around with StarOffice; the main reason I didn't get it
> is because I don't have a 'Net connection at home, and the prospect of
> lugging everything back on 1.44MB floppies doesn't really appeal. I've
> forked out $99AUS for the student edition of Applixware; it's nice. Very
> nice. My only beef: the non-rpm installation tries to install everything
> into /opt. Not a good move, especially since my 30MB root partition only
> had 15MB free

Use the .rpm and run `alien applix*.rpm`, after some quik debugging and
installing dpkg-dev from hamm and 3 hours of building ... slow system
here.  I installed the created .deb and have been using it all day ...
very nice .. better than Star Office which had quit wanting to run at all.
 
> I ended up test driving Redhat for a while on my /home partition (don't
> ask, please); whilst I was dding that, I installed Applixware somewhere
> in /usr/local. (under Debian, that would have been /home/usr/local/ ...
> as I said, don't ask :)
> 
> Tar it up, untar it into the Debian /usr/local heirachy, and everything is
> happy happy joy joy. (with some script editing, of course.) One of these
> days, I might get around to doing some work on an installation package. In
> my Copious Spare Time, naturally. ;)

I have the applix.deb now .. even though it is 37MB .. no way in hades am
I gona delete it ... don't wana go through all that alien stuff again.

chad

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Re: Applixware

[Mr Stuart Lamble]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
: On Mon, 25 Aug 1997 06:56:55 -0400, Tom Malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: > Is anyone using redhats applixware on debian?  How is it?  The install
: > difficult? Is it worth buying?  I want to migrate away from msoffice and
: > use linux exclusively if possible.  Thanks
: > 
: 
: Try out StarOffice before you decide which office suit to use together
: with Linux. I have found it very nice ... and version 3.1 is free if
: you use it in a non-commercial purpose.
: 
: Check it out at:
: http://www.stardiv.de/
: 
: I don't think you'll find any difficulties installing Applixware. If
: I'm right there is an non-rpm installation included on the cd.

I've had a play around with StarOffice; the main reason I didn't get it
is because I don't have a 'Net connection at home, and the prospect of
lugging everything back on 1.44MB floppies doesn't really appeal. I've
forked out $99AUS for the student edition of Applixware; it's nice. Very
nice. My only beef: the non-rpm installation tries to install everything
into /opt. Not a good move, especially since my 30MB root partition only
had 15MB free

I ended up test driving Redhat for a while on my /home partition (don't
ask, please); whilst I was dding that, I installed Applixware somewhere
in /usr/local. (under Debian, that would have been /home/usr/local/ ...
as I said, don't ask :)

Tar it up, untar it into the Debian /usr/local heirachy, and everything is
happy happy joy joy. (with some script editing, of course.) One of these
days, I might get around to doing some work on an installation package. In
my Copious Spare Time, naturally. ;)

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Re: Applixware - off topic

[Sam Ockman]

Message from Mario Olimpio de Menezes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 8-5-97:
> Hi,
> 
>   I'm considering the possibility of getting Applixware. Could
> someone who has used it give me some comments, basically because the
> reader's letter I found in Linux Journal (pg 8 - issue 39 - July 97),
> regarding the Review of Applixware did by LJ in April 97 issue. Quoting
> the reader: "It is not quite ready to replace MS Office". 
>   If somebody knows another forum to ask this question, feel free to
> forward it.   

Having some experience with both, I would look at Staroffice before
Applixware.  Staroffice is much more similar to Office 95 then Applixware
is.

Good luck...
Sam


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Word Perfect (was: Re: Applixware - off topic)

[Bob Nielsen]

On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Shaya Potter wrote:
> I've been using a beta of Word Perfect7 for the past few weeks, and it
> seems, at least to me, to be just as good as the Word Perfect for windows.
> It also doesn't need Motif.  I think it might be statically linked.

I tried the beta but it expired after only a few days (I think it was
supposed to last for at least 30, but it didn't.)

It is practically IDENTICAL to the Win95 version.  One problem I noticed
(common to all WordPerfect versions I have tried, including 5.1 and 6.0
under dosemu)  is that configuring a PostScript printer and sending the
output to Ghostscript 4.0x results in errors (fortunately after the job
prints correctly).  Ghostscript 3.x didn't do this (maybe 5.0 fixes it--I
haven't tried that).

They finally announced the price: $199, $149 for upgrade/tradeup.  This is
much less than other unices, and comparable with the list price for Win95
tradeups, however Win 95 has the full suite (I've seen version 8 for under
$100 upgrade).

Bob


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Re: Applixware - off topic

[Shaya Potter]

On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:

> Hi,
> 
>   I'm considering the possibility of getting Applixware. Could
> someone who has used it give me some comments, basically because the
> reader's letter I found in Linux Journal (pg 8 - issue 39 - July 97),
> regarding the Review of Applixware did by LJ in April 97 issue. Quoting
> the reader: "It is not quite ready to replace MS Office". 
>   If somebody knows another forum to ask this question, feel free
> to forward it. []s,

I've been using a beta of Word Perfect7 for the past few weeks, and it
seems, at least to me, to be just as good as the Word Perfect for windows.
It also doesn't need Motif.  I think it might be statically linked.

$ ldd xwp
libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x4000b000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x4004d000)
libXpm.so.4 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x400eb000)
libm.so.5 => /lib/libm.so.5 (0x400f8000)
libc.so.5 => /lib/libc.so.5 (0x40101000)
libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x401bd000)
libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x401c6000)

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Re: Applixware and alien

[Adam Shand]

>Has anyone tried installing Applixware 4.3 using alien? I installed
>alien from unstable, which has the appropriate patchfile.  When I try
>installing Applixware, I get the following errors:
>  cannot open package: No such file or directory
>  cpio: premature end of archive
>  Error unpacking applix-4.3-1.i386.rpm

I did this a few days ago.  It appeared to be very simply.  I installed
alien, cpio and rpm and then just converted the .rpm packages to .deb
packages and installed them using dpkg.

It worked fine.

Adam.

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Re: Applixware and alien

[George Bonser]

On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Joey Hess wrote:

> > I installed
> > alien from unstable, which has the appropriate patchfile.  When I try
> > installing Applixware, I get the following errors:
> >   cannot open package: No such file or directory
> >   cpio: premature end of archive
> >   Error unpacking applix-4.3-1.i386.rpm
> 
> This sounds like your applixware rpm is corrupted.


Or, you are not giving the correct path to applix OR you are not root.



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Re: Applixware and alien

[Joey Hess]

Dennis J Perkins wrote:
> Has anyone tried installing Applixware 4.3 using alien?

I have, but then I'm the maintainer of alien..

> I installed
> alien from unstable, which has the appropriate patchfile.  When I try
> installing Applixware, I get the following errors:
>   cannot open package: No such file or directory
>   cpio: premature end of archive
>   Error unpacking applix-4.3-1.i386.rpm

This sounds like your applixware rpm is corrupted.

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Re: applixware

[Richard Sevenich]

Thanks to all who responded to my query on applixware. The gist of the responses
is that applixware can be installed and works. So I'll give it a try.
I need an office suite and would like to stay within Linux.
Regards, Richard

Re: applixware

[Richard Morin]

> Yes, I own a copy of applix. I also happen to maintain alien. Alien can
> easily convert the rpm's that come on the applix CD into debian packages. I
> took it an extra step and added a special patch file to applix for alien,
> which should let it convert applix using less disk space and move the applix
> stuff out of /opt (since debian doesn't use /opt yet and most people don't
> have hundreds of MB free on their root partition.)
> 
> Anyhow, let me know if you have any problems with it. It should be as simple
> as "alien applix.rpm".
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How much disk space is needed? roughly

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Re: applixware

[Jason Killen]

I also would like to hear.

On Tue, 18 Mar 1997, Richard Sevenich wrote:

>The recent Linux Journal review of Applixware makes that office suite sound
>very attractive. It is, however, packaged for RedHat. Has someone on our list
>had successful experience installing it via alien or whatever method? If so
>I'd like to hear how smoothly the installation went.
>
>Regards,  Richard
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Re: applixware

[Joey Hess]

Richard Sevenich:
> The recent Linux Journal review of Applixware makes that office suite sound
> very attractive. It is, however, packaged for RedHat. Has someone on our list
> had successful experience installing it via alien or whatever method? If so
> I'd like to hear how smoothly the installation went.

Yes, I own a copy of applix. I also happen to maintain alien. Alien can
easily convert the rpm's that come on the applix CD into debian packages. I
took it an extra step and added a special patch file to applix for alien,
which should let it convert applix using less disk space and move the applix
stuff out of /opt (since debian doesn't use /opt yet and most people don't
have hundreds of MB free on their root partition.)

Anyhow, let me know if you have any problems with it. It should be as simple
as "alien applix.rpm".

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