Re: Calendar/scheduling softwae fro debain?
On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 07:45:48PM -0500, Elizabeth Barham wrote:
[...] Netscape/iPlanet has a server and to the best of my
knowledge, it impliments all or some of these standards.
http://docs.iplanet.com/docs/manuals/calendar.html
Ignoring the Fact, that i cant reach the site, it seems that iPlanet
doesnt continue developing the Netscape Calendar.
We try to find for over an Year updated Clients, since the Linux Client
from Netscape uses libc5 (some of the linked .so's arent even in the
compat libc anymore) and crashes regulary. I ripped the Calendar Client
off an old Netscape and re-packaged it for internal use.
Maybe you can help finding new Versions? i'd really appreciate it...
-mc
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Re: Calendar/scheduling softwae fro debain?
Rico -mc- Gloeckner wrote: On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 07:45:48PM -0500, Elizabeth Barham wrote: [...] Netscape/iPlanet has a server and to the best of my knowledge, it impliments all or some of these standards. http://docs.iplanet.com/docs/manuals/calendar.html Ignoring the Fact, that i cant reach the site, it seems that iPlanet doesnt continue developing the Netscape Calendar. We try to find for over an Year updated Clients, since the Linux Client from Netscape uses libc5 (some of the linked .so's arent even in the compat libc anymore) and crashes regulary. I ripped the Calendar Client off an old Netscape and re-packaged it for internal use. Maybe you can help finding new Versions? i'd really appreciate it... -mc Netscape is no longer in the server business. They went into an alliance with Sun, the iPlanet alliance, and now that alliance is over. Sun has the rights to all the iPlanet software and you can find all those server at their site. Here is the link to their Calendar Server: http://wwws.sun.com/software/products/calendar_srvr/home_calendar.html Also, the original Netscape Calendar server and client was not made by Netscape at all. The original maker of Netscape's Calendar was a company now called Steltor. They have several calendfar solutions available but none are open source. Their site is at www.steltor.com Have a good one, Robert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Calendar/scheduling softwae fro debain?
on Wed, May 29, 2002, Ian D. Stewart ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On 2002.05.20 14:09 stan wrote: Can anyone recomend a nice time schedulign software application that's in Debain Woody's archive? A Gnome interface would be a plus. I know I'm coming into this thread somewhat late. I'm surprised no one has recommended Gnome-PIM. It includes a Calendar app (GnomeCal, or some such) with day, week and month views, as well as a basic ToDo. And, of course, it is integrated with Gnome. The issue with calendaring seems to be less finding single-user calendar software (there's scads for GNU/Linux), but finding a way to distribute calendar information among users -- department and project orientations being most useful. This is where I see peer-level sharing as the real issue. It's not a question of finding some place to write your own appointments (hell, I use 'calendar', to email myself reminders), but to share this data with other users. None of the many pages I've read on this topic gives details on how peer-based calendaring can be shared effectively in an organization. This might be a good topic for a writeup from anyone who's done something similar. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat? pgpnVfYvrdIAk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Calendar/scheduling softwae fro debain?
There is a web based calendar called WebCal, GPL license, there is a demo on their site. It has public and private calendars. I've been meaning to try it out. http://bulldog.tzo.org/webcal/webcal.html The issue with calendaring seems to be less finding single-user calendar software (there's scads for GNU/Linux), but finding a way to distribute calendar information among users -- department and project orientations being most useful. This is where I see peer-level sharing as the real issue. It's not a question of finding some place to write your own appointments (hell, I use 'calendar', to email myself reminders), but to share this data with other users. None of the many pages I've read on this topic gives details on how peer-based calendaring can be shared effectively in an organization. This might be a good topic for a writeup from anyone who's done something similar. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Calendar/scheduling softwae fro debain?
Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com writes: The issue with calendaring seems to be less finding single-user calendar software (there's scads for GNU/Linux), but finding a way to distribute calendar information among users -- department and project orientations being most useful. This is what the iCalendar group and friends has been working on, a protocol that accepts and distributes this type of information. Netscape/iPlanet has a server and to the best of my knowledge, it impliments all or some of these standards. http://docs.iplanet.com/docs/manuals/calendar.html This is where I see peer-level sharing as the real issue. It's not a question of finding some place to write your own appointments (hell, I use 'calendar', to email myself reminders), but to share this data with other users. None of the many pages I've read on this topic gives details on how peer-based calendaring can be shared effectively in an organization. At the server level, though, a user could just register the fact that he or she is unavailable at certain times, or that a meeting is scheduled at such-and-such time, or ROOM 5012 is UNAVAILABLE from X - Y, etc. This might be a good topic for a writeup from anyone who's done something similar. I have not implimented this type of thing, personally. In fact I've been trying to obtain a book or some other long-winded reference in a readable format that goes over, in detail, the various protocols for sharing appointment times, etc. The only opensource implimentation that I'm aware of is libical. It's been in the works for at least two years and it has a lot of support at this point. RFC's: ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2426.txt ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2445.txt ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2446.txt ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2447.txt The whole thing seems to be up in the air in many respects although the idea of a calendar server is much desired and wanted throughout the community. Just found: Reefknot: http://reefknot.sourceforge.net/ Out of curiousity, Karsten, why do you consider a peer-to-peer version preferable to other kinds of data sharing? Elizabeth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Very interesting discussion. I have a list of groupware products on my webpage: http://www.grantbow.com/groupware.html I know that phpGroupware has a functional calendar server. There has been much discussion about it on the OpenOffice.org mail list. More info is available at: http://whiteboard.openoffice.org/groupware/ I will review this thread and add the links that were mentioned to my groupware page, looks like some great projects that I wasn't aware of. Cheers, -- -- Grant Bowman[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Karsten, You might be interested to know that twiki is now (as of two days ago) a packaged Debian app in unstable! Cheers, -- -- Grant Bowman[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Calendar/scheduling softwae fro debain?
On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 23:31:33 -0400, Ian D. Stewart wrote: I know I'm coming into this thread somewhat late. I'm surprised no one has recommended Gnome-PIM. It includes a Calendar app (GnomeCal, or some such) with day, week and month views, as well as a basic ToDo. And, of course, it is integrated with Gnome. Well, this was the first one I considered as a replacement of ical, but the dates are in the American format (mm/dd/), and I really hate that. I'd rather want the ISO 8601 format (-mm-dd) or the European format (dd/mm/). I couldn't find any option to change the date format. Does anyone know more about that? -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% validated (X)HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc. Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Calendar/scheduling softwae fro debain?
On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 09:36, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 23:31:33 -0400, Ian D. Stewart wrote: I know I'm coming into this thread somewhat late. I'm surprised no one has recommended Gnome-PIM. It includes a Calendar app (GnomeCal, or some such) with day, week and month views, as well as a basic ToDo. And, of course, it is integrated with Gnome. Well, this was the first one I considered as a replacement of ical, but the dates are in the American format (mm/dd/), and I really hate that. I'd rather want the ISO 8601 format (-mm-dd) or the European format (dd/mm/). I couldn't find any option to change the date format. Does anyone know more about that? Assuming it does the right thing, setting LC_TIME to your locale name (i.e. en_GB) should fix that. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] diary: http://advogato.org/person/RossBurton PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Calendar/scheduling softwae fro debain?
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 10:04:41 +0100, Ross Burton wrote: Assuming it does the right thing, setting LC_TIME to your locale name (i.e. en_GB) should fix that. Setting LC_TIME to en_GB (or fr_FR) doesn't change anything. -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% validated (X)HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc. Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Calendar/scheduling softwae fro debain?
On 2002.05.20 14:09 stan wrote: Can anyone recomend a nice time schedulign software application that's in Debain Woody's archive? A Gnome interface would be a plus. I know I'm coming into this thread somewhat late. I'm surprised no one has recommended Gnome-PIM. It includes a Calendar app (GnomeCal, or some such) with day, week and month views, as well as a basic ToDo. And, of course, it is integrated with Gnome. Ian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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on Wed, May 22, 2002, Thomas R. Shannon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I strongly recommend the calendar that comes with Emacs (calendar.el): 1) its almost certainly already on your system. 2) its very versatile 3) it stores you appointments in text files 4) since Emacs is cross-platform for almost everything, it can be used anywhere on virtually every machine. This doesn't answer the needs of non-technical windows/mac users. Yes, emacs runs on these platforms, however the users won't use it. What protocols does emacs's calendar support? The two majors are iCal and (IIRC) iMap. Or is it iPam. I'm looking for some way to peer stuff, though WebCalendar is also looking good. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? LNX-BBC: Bootable GNU/Linux -- Don't leave /home without it. http://www.lnx-bbc.org/ pgpqjnX5BlbmO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Calendar/scheduling softwae fro debain?
Hmmm. I did hear once about a utility to convert the emacs diary file to ical. But I can't find it at the moment. Sorry I couldn't be more help. I'll let you know if I find it. Tom S. Karsten M. Self writes: on Wed, May 22, 2002, Thomas R. Shannon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I strongly recommend the calendar that comes with Emacs (calendar.el): 1) its almost certainly already on your system. 2) its very versatile 3) it stores you appointments in text files 4) since Emacs is cross-platform for almost everything, it can be used anywhere on virtually every machine. This doesn't answer the needs of non-technical windows/mac users. Yes, emacs runs on these platforms, however the users won't use it. What protocols does emacs's calendar support? The two majors are iCal and (IIRC) iMap. Or is it iPam. I'm looking for some way to peer stuff, though WebCalendar is also looking good. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? LNX-BBC: Bootable GNU/Linux -- Don't leave /home without it. http://www.lnx-bbc.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 05:27:04AM +0200, Petr Vanek wrote: On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 12:37:27PM -0700, Steve Juranich wrote: Well, if you're looking to go old-school, there's always 'ical'. hmm, are you sure? i needed it and i had to take it from potato, it was not in woody (2 months ago) It seems to have been removed: [Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 06:38:13 -0500] [ftpmaster: James Troup] Removed the following packages from unstable: ical | 2.2-9 | source, alpha, arm, i386, m68k, mips, powerpc, sparc Closed bugs: 92286 --- Reason --- Requested by vela@; orphaned, bugs, previous maintainer considers it obsoleted by better alternatives, dead upstream -- Following some links, the better alternatives suggested by the maintainer were plan, gnome-pim, korganizer, xcal, gcal, remind. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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on Mon, May 20, 2002, stan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Can anyone recomend a nice time schedulign software application that's in Debain Woody's archive? A Gnome interface would be a plus. Depends on your needs. I'm investigating this myself, the following may be of interest: http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ApplicationsCalendaring ...the TWiki is something I'm setting up as YA channel for a bunch of folks I've hung with over the years. Peter Whysall (who's turned into a pretty decent Debian shill) has been on d-u in the past couple of months. Explorers welcomed. Authentication doesn't work, so be my TWikiGuest ;-) Basic choices: - evolution - korganizer - gnome-pim ...though there are others Two of the better additional discussions I've found are Christopher Browne's Linux Scheduling Tools page: http://www.cbbrowne.com/info/pimslinuxvcard.html ...and a discussion at LWN: http://lwn.net/2001/0809/desktop.php3 Peace. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? Scandinavian Designs: Cool furniture, affordable prices, great service. San Rafael, CA. pgpLAgycgW7QR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Calendar/scheduling softwae fro debain?
I strongly recommend the calendar that comes with Emacs (calendar.el): 1) its almost certainly already on your system. 2) its very versatile 3) it stores you appointments in text files 4) since Emacs is cross-platform for almost everything, it can be used anywhere on virtually every machine. The only real disadvantage is that it isn't very graphical by default but there are ways to generate graphical files with you appointments in a variety of formats. Tom S. Karsten M. Self writes: on Mon, May 20, 2002, stan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Can anyone recomend a nice time schedulign software application that's in Debain Woody's archive? A Gnome interface would be a plus. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thomas R. Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I strongly recommend the calendar that comes with Emacs (calendar.el): 1) its almost certainly already on your system. 2) its very versatile 3) it stores you appointments in text files 4) since Emacs is cross-platform for almost everything, it can be used anywhere on virtually every machine. I agree entirely. Emacs calendar and appointment combination work very well. Both also work with Oliver Seidel's todo-mode, so that your list of most important items from each todo category can appear in the day's list of items. Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 12:37:27PM -0700, Steve Juranich wrote: Actually, I'm thninking that's serious overkill for what I want. Isn't it the grand swiss army knife, scheduler, email client, tea maker :-) I'm looking for a simply little schedule keeper. Well, if you're looking to go old-school, there's always 'ical'. hmm, are you sure? i needed it and i had to take it from potato, it was not in woody (2 months ago) -- bye Vanous - Petr Vanek . ./\. Debian GNU Linux .. _|\| |/|_ .. [EMAIL PROTECTED].. \/... http://www.penguin.cz/~vanous... __ ... Angus, Ontario, CA .. / ... - Registered linux user #217487 pgpYm1Dn8AO1Q.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Calendar/scheduling softwae fro debain?
Actually, I'm thninking that's serious overkill for what I want. Isn't it the grand swiss army knife, scheduler, email client, tea maker :-) I'm looking for a simply little schedule keeper. Well, if you're looking to go old-school, there's always 'ical'. -- Stephen W. Juranich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Electrical Engineering http://students.washington.edu/sjuranic University of Washingtonhttp://ssli.ee.washington.edu/ssli -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
