Re: Debian 2.2 or woody

2000-09-10 Thread Philipp Schulte
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 12:41:43PM +0200, Julio Merino wrote: 

 Since I discovered apt :-) in slink, I've been always using the
 unstable distribution. I would use 2.2, but in that version there are
 not the latest versions of some programs, for example, emacs, gnome,
 etc. And the problem of this, is that if I want to get one of this
 from the unstable I will have to download A LOT of dependencies that
 will make my installation a 2.2/woody mixture.

Depends on your system. If it is just a workstation at home with no
important servers running on it and you can live with the fact that
you are running an unstable system then I don't see any problems of
getting new woody-packages.

Phil



Re: Debian 2.2 or woody

2000-09-10 Thread Bruce Richardson
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 12:41:43PM +0200, Julio Merino wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm going to install a new debian system at home (as I commented in
 some other messages)... but I'm now wondering if installing the 2.2 or
 woody version...

I can't give you a definitive answer since I've only been using Debian
since potato came out.  But I've converted my home machine from RH to
Debian and have needed to upgrade a few things beyond potato to get some
important (to me) features that aren't in the potato versions of some
apps.

The reason to use potato is stability.  You know that the system has
been tested as a whole, not just as an assortment of apps.  If you keep
up with the updates then the system should actually get more stable
with time.  If you don't value that, go ahead and use woody all over but 
you know that'll be a constantly shifting surface to stand on.  You 
don't lose out on the security front by using potato since the Debian 
maintainers back-propagate security/bug fixes.

So far I've had no problems with the bits I've added from woody, though
I've been compiling from the source packages.  Compiling from source not
only lets me do any personal config I need but also avoids the problems
that would be caused by a binary compiled on a woody system with minor
differences in set-up to a potato system.  And if there were a major
incompatibility, the compilation process will fail meaningfully, in a
way that tells me what I might do to fix it.  The binary would likely
just core dump.

-- 
Bruce

Remember you're a Womble.



Re: Debian 2.2 or woody

2000-09-10 Thread Preben Randhol
Julio Merino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/09/2000 (14:37) :
 Since I discovered apt :-) in slink, I've been always using the
 unstable distribution. I would use 2.2, but in that version there are
 not the latest versions of some programs, for example, emacs, gnome,
 etc. And the problem of this, is that if I want to get one of this
 from the unstable I will have to download A LOT of dependencies that
 will make my installation a 2.2/woody mixture.

Get Debian 2.2. Get HelixGnome. Drop Emacs use vim! ;-) And fetch the
other packages you absolutely need from woody. Then you'll have a stable
system.

-- 
Preben Randhol - Ph.D student - http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/
i too once thought that when proved wrong that i lost somehow
   - i was hoping, alanis morisette



Re: Debian 2.2 or woody

2000-09-10 Thread Mike Werner
Julio Merino wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm going to install a new debian system at home (as I commented in
 some other messages)... but I'm now wondering if installing the 2.2 or
 woody version...
 
 Since I discovered apt :-) in slink, I've been always using the
 unstable distribution. I would use 2.2, but in that version there are
 not the latest versions of some programs, for example, emacs, gnome,
 etc. And the problem of this, is that if I want to get one of this
 from the unstable I will have to download A LOT of dependencies that
 will make my installation a 2.2/woody mixture.
 
 Any good reasons to use one or another? If not, I'm going to install
 woody as I've always done... :)

Like a few others have said, it really depends on what the system will be
used for.  If a production server, I'd say stay with potato as much as
possible.  If a home workstation, I'd say go with whichever strikes your
fancy.

I've been running woody for a few months now with very few problems.  Every
now and then a package will get a bit bollixed, but usually gets straightened
out in fairly short order.
-- 
Mike Werner  KA8YSD   | He that is slow to believe anything and
  | everything is of great understanding,
'91 GS500E| for belief in one false principle is the
Morgantown WV | beginning of all unwisdom.


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