Re: Debian problem

2012-05-03 Thread Johan Mazel
Thanks for all your answers.
I sent another mail to this mailing list to expose my problem.
Regards.
Johan

2012/5/3 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
 On Wed, 02 May 2012 19:08:52 +0900, Johan Mazel wrote:

 I have a problem with Debian Testing on an Dell Optiplex 960. Can I ask
 for some help on this list or should I use another way ?

 This list is okay but for the next time it would be better if you include
 a more descriptive subject for the problem ;-)

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Re: Debian problem

2012-05-02 Thread Jon Dowland
On 02/05/12 11:08, Johan Mazel wrote:
 I have a problem with Debian Testing on an Dell Optiplex 960.
 Can I ask for some help on this list or should I use another way ?

That's what the list is for.  Please make sure use a descriptive subject
for the post with your problem in it.


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Re: Debian problem

2012-05-02 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 2 May 2012 19:08:52 +0900
Johan Mazel johan.ma...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Johan,

 I have a problem with Debian Testing on an Dell Optiplex 960.
 Can I ask for some help on this list or should I use another way ?

You're in the right place;  Ask here, there's bound to be somebody that
can help.

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Re: Debian problem

2012-05-02 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 02 May 2012 19:08:52 +0900, Johan Mazel wrote:

 I have a problem with Debian Testing on an Dell Optiplex 960. Can I ask
 for some help on this list or should I use another way ? 

This list is okay but for the next time it would be better if you include 
a more descriptive subject for the problem ;-)

Greetings,

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Re: debian problem about installation

2004-08-16 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello

Please /don't/ send HTML mails to the mailing list.

matthias vandegaer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 i recently got an IBM thinkpad 755C laptop,and according to a site i
 visited,debian version 2.0 could work on the model,however,now i want
 to install your linux distribution on my laptop because i have a small
 harddisc and i want to start using it for the internet(and since linux
 is an OS where there are few viruses for,i wouldn't need an antivirus
 program,since it takes lots of room.

Debian 2.0 is not supported by the Debian security team anymore. I don't
know how much RAM/hard disk space your notebook has, but you could
probably install Debian 3.0. It comes on seven CDs, but of course you
don't have to install everything. The base system after the
installation is about 120 MB (without graphical interface). There also
some Linux distributions specially for older/slower computers, like
Deli Linux (http://delilinux.berlios.de/). Vectorlinux or Slackware
would maybe also work.

 but sadly enough i can't find the distribution anymore,the 
 distribution that person used was Debian version 2.0,but i can't seem
 to find it on any site anymore,am i able to ask; if i might could
 download old linux distributuins like Debian 2.0 on any(or perhaps
 this)site

The packages are available at ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian-archive, but
I don't know if you can find ISO images anywhere.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: [debian] Problem mit SCSI-Platten.

2002-05-16 Thread Ralf Schmidt

Hallo Joerg,

* Joerg Desch prügelte in die Tastatur:
Ich habe die erste Seltsamkeit beim Booten gehabt. Hier hat das BIOS
gemeckert, daß die 2. Platte (also die mit der Terminierung) more than 64
heads hat. Tatsächlich lieferte das BIOS nur bei der ersten Platte die
erwarteten Werte 4357/64/32. Für die 2. Platte kamen 1020/141/62 heraus!
Nach einem Tastendruck habe ich weitergemacht.

Ich hatte das selbe Problem mit den gleichen Platten.
Mach ein BIOS-Update des Tekram-Controllers. Dann ist Ruhe dmait.
Auf der Tekram HP ist der Bug auch beschrieben.


Komischerweise meldet der SYM8x-Treiber für beide Platten die korrekte
Geometrie!

Das war bei mir auch so.

Woran kann das liegen? An einem anderen Board kann sich der Controller
doch nicht stören? Und sein BIOS bringt der Tekram ja mit.

s.o.

HTH

 ciao

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Re: Debian problem on UltraSparc

2000-12-15 Thread Joshua Uziel
* Tommy Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001215 00:56]:
   1. I've 1024MB RAM on my box. But when I use kernel 2.2.18, it won't
  boot correctly except I add a append=mem=512m to let kernel use
  only 512MB. Is there any configuration that I miss ? (I've try
  2.4.0-test9 to test12, they will use all 1024MB RAM correctly)

This is expected and known... your only options are to use only 512MB of
RAM with 2.2.x or to have all 1024MB with 2.4.0-testX kernel.



Re: Debian problem on UltraSparc

2000-12-15 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 02:33:57AM -0800, Joshua Uziel wrote:
 * Tommy Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001215 00:56]:
1. I've 1024MB RAM on my box. But when I use kernel 2.2.18, it won't
   boot correctly except I add a append=mem=512m to let kernel use
   only 512MB. Is there any configuration that I miss ? (I've try
   2.4.0-test9 to test12, they will use all 1024MB RAM correctly)
 
 This is expected and known... your only options are to use only 512MB of
 RAM with 2.2.x or to have all 1024MB with 2.4.0-testX kernel.

That's strange. We have an Ultra60 with 1.5 gigs running under 2.2.17-pre20
with no problems. Why the difference?

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Re: Debian problem on UltraSparc

2000-12-15 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 03:09:34PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 02:33:57AM -0800, Joshua Uziel wrote:
  * Tommy Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001215 00:56]:
 1. I've 1024MB RAM on my box. But when I use kernel 2.2.18, it won't
boot correctly except I add a append=mem=512m to let kernel use
only 512MB. Is there any configuration that I miss ? (I've try
2.4.0-test9 to test12, they will use all 1024MB RAM correctly)
  
  This is expected and known... your only options are to use only 512MB of
  RAM with 2.2.x or to have all 1024MB with 2.4.0-testX kernel.
 
 That's strange. We have an Ultra60 with 1.5 gigs running under 2.2.17-pre20
 with no problems. Why the difference?

Different PCI chipset. You basically have either PSYCHO, which has 32K
entries in IOMMU TSB, or SABRA, which has either 8K, 16K or 32K (depending
on which box this is). You can either set 8K or 64K granularity in this
translation table. 2.2.x uses 64K and sets 1:1 mapping of all memory in this
table, which means you can have at most 2GB (resp. 1GB resp. .5GB) of OS
usable memory. 2.4.x does dynamic DMA mapping (so this is history).

Jakub



Re: Debian problem

2000-09-08 Thread Shaul Karl
Debian 2.2 was just released. Not sure if it is not worth to skip 2.1 and start 
with 2.2. In any case perhaps you should try to unplugged each CDROM (and then 
both) to see if they are the cause of the hang (or have you done so already)?
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Greetings. I just bought Debian 2.1, It won't load. 
It recognize everything up to mytwo CDrom drives then It freezes up. I 
currently am running FreeBSD on aseperate box. It will load on that box. The 
box that I'm putting it oncurrent has Win98 and Redhat. I was planning on 
going full blown DebianLinux )no windows). But it keep freezing up during 
the booting process.I unplugged everything, pulled all the pci cards, 
Memory, video card, and swappedstuff from the FreeBSD box nothing 
works!The box I want Debian on: Athlon 500Mhz, FIC SD11 Motherboard, 128 
megs ram,10gig harddrive, Geforce video card, CDRW, CDrom, floppyThe box 
my FreeBSD is on: Dual PII 266Mhz, 4gig harddrive, 32 megs ram, twoplain 
CDrom, ISA 512K Video card (It will install on this box, But I wantFreeBSD 
to stay on it.I was thinking of install it on My freebsd box then swapping 
harddrives.James
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Re: Debian problem

2000-09-08 Thread James Johnson
I unplugged the cdroms, I even swap out cd roms
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 Debian 2.2 was just released. Not sure if it is not worth to skip 2.1 and
start with 2.2. In any case perhaps you should try to unplugged each CDROM
(and then both) to see if they are the cause of the hang (or have you done
so already)?








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Re: Debian problem

2000-09-08 Thread Wouter Hanegraaff
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 07:35:29PM -0400, James Johnson wrote:
 Greetings.
 I just bought Debian 2.1, It won't load. It recognize everything up to my
 two CDrom drives then It freezes up. I currently am running FreeBSD on a

[snip]

 The box I want Debian on: Athlon 500Mhz, FIC SD11 Motherboard, 128 megs ram,
 10gig harddrive, Geforce video card, CDRW, CDrom, floppy

The kernel used by the installation program of debian 2.1 doesn't
support the athlon. The easiest solution is to use the last release, 2.2
aka Potato. That's probably what you want anyway.

Wouter



Re: Debian problem

2000-09-07 Thread John Anderson
I had a similar problem with Debian 2.1 on an IBM PC 350 /w a 166 mhz
processor.  It had know special cards.  I found that Debian 2.2 would work
on it because it uses the 2.2 kernel and that particular computer has a
bug which the 2.2 kernel recognised.  Try downloading on your FreeBSD
machine a boot floppy for Debian 2.2 and see if that solves the problem.


John Kerr Anderson 
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On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, James Johnson wrote:

 Greetings.
 I just bought Debian 2.1, It won't load. It recognize everything up to my
 two CDrom drives then It freezes up. I currently am running FreeBSD on a
 seperate box. It will load on that box. The box that I'm putting it on
 current has Win98 and Redhat. I was planning on going full blown Debian
 Linux )no windows). But it keep freezing up during the booting process.
 I unplugged everything, pulled all the pci cards, Memory, video card, and  
 swapped
 stuff from the FreeBSD box nothing works!
 The box I want Debian on: Athlon 500Mhz, FIC SD11 Motherboard, 128 megs ram,
 10gig harddrive, Geforce video card, CDRW, CDrom, floppy
 The box my FreeBSD is on: Dual PII 266Mhz, 4gig harddrive, 32 megs ram, two
 plain CDrom, ISA 512K Video card (It will install on this box, But I want
 FreeBSD to stay on it.
 I was thinking of install it on My freebsd box then swapping harddrives.
 James
 
 



Re: Debian Problem after Compiling Kernel

1997-12-08 Thread Oliver Elphick
Vaibhav Goel wrote:...
  I installed Debian 1.3.1 off the InfoMagic Developers CD.  This release
  incorporates the 2.0.29 kernel.  Installation goes without a hitch.
  Everything works fine.  I download the latest developers kernel (2.1.71)
  and compile it.  Everything seems to compile fine.  Upon reboot with the
  new kernel, I get the following error message
  
  SIOADDCRT: Invalid argument
  
  I have determined this to come from the following command which is issued
  in /etc/init.d/network.
  
  route add -net ${NETWORK}
  
  Here is what my /etc/init.d/network file looks like
  
  
  #!  /bin/sh
  ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
  route add -net 127.0.0.0
  IPADDR=204.69.208.4
  NETMASK=255.255.255.0
  NETWORK=204.69.208.0
  BROADCAST=204.69.208.255
  GATEWAY=204.69.208.1
  ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
  route add -net ${NETWORK}
  [ ${GATEWAY} ]  route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
  
  
  Please note that this exact same file works great with the CD installed
  kernel (ie precompiled kernel).  I have tried downloading and compiling
  2.0.30 but I get the same error.
  
  Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?

Since your set-up works with the pre-compiled kernel, it follows that you
have a problem either with the configuration of your own kernel or in the
loading of modules.

Have you enabled ethernet in the kernel as well as incorporating a driver
for your particular network card?

If you have configured these as modules, are you either running kerneld to
load them automatically when required, or else running modprobe at boot time
to load them once and for all?

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RE: Debian Problem after Compiling Kernel

1997-12-08 Thread Paul Rightley
I am no expert, but...

Are you sure that you compile the correct driver for your
networking card into the new kernel?  I get errors like
this after I have recompiled the kernel with the wrong
ethernet card driver.  If you think you did this correctly,
did you compile the driver as a module?  Are you sure that
it is loaded early enough in the boot process?  (I usually 
compile networking into the kernel - since memory is cheap.)

HTH,

Paul

On 07-Dec-97 Vaibhav Goel wrote:

Hi;

I posted about this a couple of weeks ago and someone responded with
apossible solution.  But this did not seem to work so here I go again.  I
would really appreciate it if someone could help me out here.

I installed Debian 1.3.1 off the InfoMagic Developers CD.  This release
incorporates the 2.0.29 kernel.  Installation goes without a hitch.
Everything works fine.  I download the latest developers kernel (2.1.71)
and compile it.  Everything seems to compile fine.  Upon reboot with the
new kernel, I get the following error message

SIOADDCRT: Invalid argument

I have determined this to come from the following command which is issued
in /etc/init.d/network.

route add -net ${NETWORK}

Here is what my /etc/init.d/network file looks like


#!  /bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -net 127.0.0.0
IPADDR=204.69.208.4
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NETWORK=204.69.208.0
BROADCAST=204.69.208.255
GATEWAY=204.69.208.1
ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
route add -net ${NETWORK}
[ ${GATEWAY} ]  route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1


Please note that this exact same file works great with the CD installed
kernel (ie precompiled kernel).  I have tried downloading and compiling
2.0.30 but I get the same error.

Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?

Regards,
Vaibhav



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Re: Debian Problem after compiling kernel

1997-11-27 Thread Wintermute


Vaibhav Goel wrote:

 #! /bin/sh
 ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
 route add -net 127.0.0.0
 IPADDR=204.69.208.4
 NETMASK=255.255.255.0
 NETWORK=204.69.208.0
 BROADCAST=204.69.208.255
 GATEWAY=
 ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
 route add -net ${NETWORK}
 [ ${GATEWAY} ]  route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1


Well right off the top of my skull I'd say that your problem is the fact
that there is no gateway specified to ifconfig, so ifconfig is seeing you
try to pass metric as a value for 'gw' since GATEWAY is being left blank
and barfing.  Try putting your correct gateway in the GATEWAY= line and try
it again.




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Re: Debian Problem after compiling kernel

1997-11-27 Thread Luka Pravica
Vaibhav Goel wrote:
 
 Hello;
 
 I recently obtained and installed Debian 1.3.1 off the InfoMagic
 CD.  It installs kernel 2.0.29.  I then downloaded and
 compiled kernel ver 2.1.62 and 2.1.63 and upon booting
 I get the following error:
 
 SIOCADDRT: Invalid Arguement
 SIOCADDRT: Invalid Arguement
 
 After looking around for some time I determined, this
 problem occurs when the bootup procedure is executing
 the file /etc/init.d/network.
 
 Basically, I believe its a problem related to the Ethernet card.
 Its a generic 10baseT NE2000 card.  The card is recognized
 fine on bootup and the module is compiled.  I see the
 autoprobe coming back with the IRQ of the card.
 
 Below is what my networks file looks like.  Can someone
 help me target the problem?  When I boot with kernel 2.0.29
 that was installed with Debian, things work just fine.  Am i
 doing something wrong while compiling the kernel?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Vaibhav Goel
 
 #---begin /etc/network
 #! /bin/sh
 ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
 route add -net 127.0.0.0
 IPADDR=204.69.208.4
 NETMASK=255.255.255.0
 NETWORK=204.69.208.0
 BROADCAST=204.69.208.255
 GATEWAY=
 ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
 route add -net ${NETWORK}
 [ ${GATEWAY} ]  route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
 
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Perhaps it lies on the unstable kernel you are using (ver2.1).

If you don't need any special feature from it, try downloading stable
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Re: [DEBIAN] Problem on filtering messages from the list

1997-11-24 Thread Rik Johns
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Daniel Mashao [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Since I used procmail I am relieved because only important messages
 and many junk emails end-up in my main folder. Now if I can find a
 way to get rid of the junk emails.

Much of the spam aren't addressed to you directly. 

Make a list of all the addresses and mailinglists to which you get
mail, filter that mail into list.debian, mail.private, and similar.
Leave the rest in mail.unsorted and take a look in that once a week,
to see if anything important has slipped through.

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Re: [DEBIAN] Problem on filtering messages from the list

1997-11-24 Thread Peter Prohaska
I get my feed by uucp and use procmail to look up lists.debian.org!* in
the From -line. Works fine.

peter  

  I suggest you sort on X-Mailing-List: rather than To:
 
 Yes, using characters out of To: does seem kind of pointless.  THere's plenty 
 of filtering software out there.
 
 rick
 
 
 
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Re: [DEBIAN] Problem on filtering messages from the list

1997-11-23 Thread Daniel Mashao
On Sat, 22 Nov 1997, Tommy Lakofski wrote:

 You might like to try using procmail to filter your messages.
 
I am not an expert on this but my procmail filter puts all me emails with
the address debian-user@lists.debian.org to a folder called debian. It
does not matter whether this is in To: or Cc; etc

here are the lines I use
 
:0
*  debian-user@lists.debian.org
debian

Since I used procmail I am relieved because only important messages and
many junk emails end-up in my main folder. Now if I can find a way to get
rid of the junk emails.

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spam filter (was Re: [DEBIAN] Problem on filtering messages...)

1997-11-23 Thread robert havoc pennington

On 23 Nov 1997, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote:
 Much of the spam aren't addressed to you directly. 
 
 Make a list of all the addresses and mailinglists to which you get
 mail, filter that mail into list.debian, mail.private, and similar.
 Leave the rest in mail.unsorted and take a look in that once a week,
 to see if anything important has slipped through.
 

An alternative approach is this, which I copied from someone else, I don't
know where it originally came from. This doesn't require you to make a
list of people you get mail from, so you can still get mail from
unanticipated but non-spam sources. It works pretty well, but occasionally
misses a spam or junks a real email. I'd say it gets 90% of spam and junks
1% of real mail, though I filter all list email before this recipe so it
never has a chance to junk that. 

If nothing else it's really funny to read, I think. Shows how cliche and
formulaic most spam is.

Havoc Pennington

procmail recipe to catch spam:

:0D:
* ^Subject:.* FREE .*
$MAILDIR/junk-folder
 
:0:
*^Subject:.* lifestyle *change
$MAILDIR/junk-folder
 
:0:
*^TO.*friend
$MAILDIR/junk-folder
 
:0B:
*!!!
$MAILDIR/junk-folder
 
:0B:
*-150^0
*50^0 ^Dear (friend|net surfer)[:,]?^
*100^2 limited .*offer
*50^1 to order( please)? call
*50^1 free
*5^2 (wealth|money|income|cash|dollar|\$[\$1-9])
*2^2 !
*100^2 act now supplies are.*limited
*100^1 never (ever )?(have to)? pay for .* again
*200^1 remove.* in .*subject
*100^2 reply with .* in .*subject
*100^2 free.*(trial|info)
*300^1 to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*200^2 wealth[ -]building
*100^2 (income|money[ -]making|business) (opportunit|system|method)
*100^2 (no|minimal) (outlay|investment|skills|training|experience)
*200^2 (instant|overnight) wealth
*100^2 now, with .*, you can
*100^2 not a (chain letter|pyramid scheme|scam)
*200^2 couldn't.*make ends meet
*100^.5 I owed.*over \$[1-9]+0*(,000)+
*200^2 .*(turn|convert).*\$[0-9]+ into \$[1-9\$]+
*100^2 (ma[kd]e|bec[oa]me).*million( dollars|aire)
*100^2 make.*(money|dollars)
*500^2 (money|dollars|\$+[0-9,.$]+).*\
 (fast|immediately|quickly|(((with)?in|per|every).*(day|week|wks|month|short 
time)))
*200^2 after .*, i decided to open my own business
*500^2 multi-level (sales|marketing)
*100^2 satisfaction.*guaranteed
*100^2 (lose weight|weight loss)
*50^2 herbal
*100^2 (18 years old|18 and over|over 18)
*500^2 adult service
*100^2 (nude|naked|topless|sex)
$MAILDIR/junk-folder










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Re: [DEBIAN] Problem on filtering messages from the list

1997-11-22 Thread Sten Anderson
Marcus Lam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 May I suggest all subscribers of this Debian list use some convention in
 sending messages to the list?  I found it very difficult to
 differentiate between the messages from this Debian list and those from
 other lists.   I used to sort it by the To field of the message, but
 later I found out there are messages arrived at my INBOX that are not
 sent TO the official list address debian-user@lists.debian.org.
 Sometimes these messages are TO some other Debian or Linux list
 addresses but other times they are TO a person.  This makes me feel
 puzzled.  But maybe I join the list for a short time only.  So could
 someone tell me what should I do to properly sort those messages from
 THIS Debian list?  Could we simply use a convention in the message
 Subject field, like what I saw someone's doing (like the one in THIS
 message)?
 

It would be stupid to enforce restrictions like that on the
messages. Your sorting problems should be solved in another way. I
suggest you sort by the resent field. All messages in this list
contain the header: Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

- Sten Anderson


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Re: [DEBIAN] Problem on filtering messages from the list

1997-11-22 Thread Tommy Lakofski
You might like to try using procmail to filter your messages.

TL

On Sat, 22 Nov 1997, Marcus Lam wrote:

 From: Marcus Lam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 11:51:43 +0800
 Subject: [DEBIAN] Problem on filtering messages from the list
 
 May I suggest all subscribers of this Debian list use some convention in
 sending messages to the list?  I found it very difficult to
 differentiate between the messages from this Debian list and those from
 other lists.   I used to sort it by the To field of the message, but
 later I found out there are messages arrived at my INBOX that are not
 sent TO the official list address debian-user@lists.debian.org.
 Sometimes these messages are TO some other Debian or Linux list
 addresses but other times they are TO a person.  This makes me feel
 puzzled.  But maybe I join the list for a short time only.  So could
 someone tell me what should I do to properly sort those messages from
 THIS Debian list?  Could we simply use a convention in the message
 Subject field, like what I saw someone's doing (like the one in THIS
 message)?


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Re: [DEBIAN] Problem on filtering messages from the list

1997-11-22 Thread Ben Pfaff
  May I suggest all subscribers of this Debian list use some convention in
  sending messages to the list?  I found it very difficult to
  differentiate between the messages from this Debian list and those from
  other lists.   I used to sort it by the To field of the message, but
  later I found out there are messages arrived at my INBOX that are not
  sent TO the official list address debian-user@lists.debian.org.
  Sometimes these messages are TO some other Debian or Linux list
  addresses but other times they are TO a person.  This makes me feel
  puzzled.  But maybe I join the list for a short time only.  So could
  someone tell me what should I do to properly sort those messages from
  THIS Debian list?  Could we simply use a convention in the message
  Subject field, like what I saw someone's doing (like the one in THIS
  message)?
  
 
 It would be stupid to enforce restrictions like that on the
 messages. Your sorting problems should be solved in another way. I
 suggest you sort by the resent field. All messages in this list
 contain the header: Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

You can also sort on the X-Mailing-List: header.
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Re: [DEBIAN] Problem on filtering messages from the list

1997-11-22 Thread Mike Miller
 marcus == Marcus Lam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does
 not understand this format, some or all of this message may
 not be legible.

Hmmm, my MUA /does/ understand MIME.  Maybe your's just doesn't
know that.

 May I suggest all subscribers of this Debian list use some
 convention in sending messages to the list?  

I suggest you sort on X-Mailing-List: rather than To:


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Re: [DEBIAN] Problem on filtering messages from the list

1997-11-22 Thread Jason Costomiris
On Sat, Nov 22, 1997 at 11:51:43AM +0800, Marcus Lam wrote:
: May I suggest all subscribers of this Debian list use some convention in
: sending messages to the list?  I found it very difficult to
: differentiate between the messages from this Debian list and those from
: other lists.   I used to sort it by the To field of the message, but
: later I found out there are messages arrived at my INBOX that are not
: sent TO the official list address debian-user@lists.debian.org.
: Sometimes these messages are TO some other Debian or Linux list
: addresses but other times they are TO a person.  This makes me feel
: puzzled.  But maybe I join the list for a short time only.  So could
: someone tell me what should I do to properly sort those messages from
: THIS Debian list?  Could we simply use a convention in the message
: Subject field, like what I saw someone's doing (like the one in THIS
: message)?

:0:
* ^Resent.*debian-user
$HOME/mail/debian-user

Oh, and could you stop sending M$ Rich text messages?  The 
application/x-ms-tnef attachments are annoying.


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Re: [DEBIAN] Problem on filtering messages from the list

1997-11-22 Thread Rick Hawkins

 
 I suggest you sort on X-Mailing-List: rather than To:

Yes, using characters out of To: does seem kind of pointless.  THere's plenty 
of filtering software out there.

rick



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