Re: digital camera recomendations

[Mike McClain]

On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 03:30:41PM -0800, Mike McClain wrote:
> I'm in the market for an inexpensive digital camera.


I want to thank everyone for their input.
After looking at the stats of each camera suggested and comparing them
side by side at http://www.dpreview.com/ I settled on the Canon A590 IS
primarily due to it's greater opportunity for manual control than the
others in the $100 price range.

Mike


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Re: digital camera recomendations

[Chris Bannister]

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 09:34:16AM -0800, Mike McClain wrote:
> AA batteries are cheap, readily available and I can get NiCad and NiMH. 
> Custom rechargable battery packs are like printer ink cartridges.

They report being empty when there is still a week or two of use left?

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Re: digital camera recomendations

[Stefan Monnier]

> AA batteries are cheap, readily available and I can get NiCad and NiMH. 
> Custom rechargable battery packs are like printer ink cartridges.

I agree to some extent.  But AA batteries do not come on Li-ion versions,
and there's a good reason why all cameras (and laptop) batteries use
Li-ion: it has much higher capacity.


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Re: digital camera recomendations

[Virgo Pärna]

On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:14:55 -0500, mitch  wrote:
>
> I work at a nationwide chain of Camera/Imaging stores.
>
> AA batteries are used in Nikon, Canon and Fuji's and Panasonic. Best to
> go with rechargeable batteries.

Also some Pentax cameras - you just have to check, if specific camera uses
AA or Li-Ion.

>
> Most use SD cards. Olympus still uses xD and Sony uses Memory Sticks.

Just for information - my Pentax Option E50 would no longer mount 
on Lenny - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=501935
Basically, the problem is, that some digital cameras (most Nikons and at 
least some Pentax ones) report incorrect sector count - 1 more then there
really is. And in Lenny this caused problems.


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Re: digital camera recomendations

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:02:10PM -0500, Allan Wind wrote:
> On 2009-02-19T16:05:55, Richard Lyons wrote:
> > The rechargeeables, both NiCad and NiMH, are a good idea in principle, but
> > lose charge when not in use and become ineffective surprisingly quickly in
> > my experience.
> 
> Try the low discharge NiMH batteries like Sanyo Eneloop.

double plus that!

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Re: digital camera recomendations

[Brendan]

On Thursday 19 February 2009, Richard Lyons wrote:
> I used to think standard batteries were a better idea too, but they don't
> perform anywhere near as well as the L-ion flat ones most cameras now use.

This is slightly misleading. Yes, lb for lb, LI batts perform better, but 
often if a camera uses AA's, it uses two or four, which pack a wallop vs a Li 
batt which may last longer, but how long do you really need vs the ease of 
having standard chargers for AA and the excellent reusability of AA's in many 
devices? For me, it's a win-win for my two smaller cams (Canon S5 and Pana 
LZ10, that use AA's and last a long time with Sanyo Eneloops).

My big cameras both use the standard XT/XTi LI charger, so at most, for 4 
cameras, I carry two chargers and two cheap sets of replacements for the AA's. 
I can shoot indefinitely for cheap money, vs. having two or four replacement LI 
batts around (which, for name brand, are minmum 20 bucks each on the cheap 
end)

> I was in Budapest last week with a friend who had to buy new AAs for his
> camera.  An hour later they were flat, but my camera's L-ion battery lasted
> a full day.

But if yours went flat, a replacement is not easy to find and you'd have to 
carry a special one-use charger. For some people, utility over absolute power 
contained in the batt is a win.


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Re: digital camera recomendations

[Allan Wind]

On 2009-02-19T16:05:55, Richard Lyons wrote:
> The rechargeeables, both NiCad and NiMH, are a good idea in principle, but
> lose charge when not in use and become ineffective surprisingly quickly in
> my experience.

Try the low discharge NiMH batteries like Sanyo Eneloop.


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Re: digital camera recomendations

[Richard Lyons]

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:55:12AM -0500, Barclay, Daniel wrote:

> Mike McClain wrote:
> 
> > 
> > AA batteries are cheap, readily available and I can get NiCad and NiMH. 
> > Custom rechargable battery packs are like printer ink cartridges.
> 
> I wonder whether any camera use AAA batteries.  That would let the camera be
> smaller and you'd still be able to install non-rechargeable batteries in a
> crunch.

I used to think standard batteries were a better idea too, but they don't
perform anywhere near as well as the L-ion flat ones most cameras now use.
The rechargeeables, both NiCad and NiMH, are a good idea in principle, but
lose charge when not in use and become ineffective surprisingly quickly in
my experience.  

I was in Budapest last week with a friend who had to buy new AAs for his
camera.  An hour later they were flat, but my camera's L-ion battery lasted 
a full day.

richard


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Re: digital camera recomendations

[Barclay, Daniel]

Mike McClain wrote:

> 
> AA batteries are cheap, readily available and I can get NiCad and NiMH. 
> Custom rechargable battery packs are like printer ink cartridges.

I wonder whether any camera use AAA batteries.  That would let the camera be
smaller and you'd still be able to install non-rechargeable batteries in a
crunch.


Daniel
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Re: digital camera recomendations

[Barclay, Daniel]

kj wrote:

> ...  I can imagine there's some benefit to designing a battery
> that delivers the cameras exact energy requirements rather than trying 
> to make the most of the fixed output of AAs.   Given how small compact 
> digital cameras have become, AA batteries really just add unnecessary bulk.

I think you hit the nail on the head in your last sentence--the primary benefit
to camera design of custom-designed batteries is probably the size _and_ 
_shape_,
at least for ultra-compact cameras (such as my Casio Exilim EX-Z580 (which takes
a flat, square NP-40 battery), and Casio's V7 and V8, which couldn't also use 
the
NP-40 and uses a long, skinny battery because of the different internal lens
layout; these are about the size of Canon's Digital Elph cameras).

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Re: digital camera recomendations

[kj]

kj wrote:
...The T100's battery is tiny compared to two AAs, and gave me roughly 
double number of pictures that I got out of two 2700mAh NiCads.

Correction: they're 2700mAh NiMh batteries.

Amazon linky:
*http://tinyurl.com/dny49q

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Re: digital camera recomendations

[kj]

Mike McClain wrote:
A batteries are cheap, readily available and I can get NiCad and NiMH. 
Custom rechargable battery packs are like printer ink cartridges.


Mike
  
Except they last a lot longer - in both ways.  I am not an electronic 
engineer, but I can imagine there's some benefit to designing a battery 
that delivers the cameras exact energy requirements rather than trying 
to make the most of the fixed output of AAs.   Given how small compact 
digital cameras have become, AA batteries really just add unnecessary bulk.


I had a Sony DSC-S40 which is a great camera and takes AA batteries.  If 
you can find one like that (or a similar one), I can definitely 
recommend it.   I passed mine on to my mum (she had the exact same one 
but it went missing) and got myself a DSC-T100 before an overseas trip.  
I chose the T100 because of its sleek design - no protruding lens, and 
only about 1.5cm thick, so it fits in my jean or shirt pocket, and I 
don't even know it's there.   I have invested in an extra battery for 
each of the digital cameras I've owned since, and honestly, it's been 
worth every penny.   The T100's battery is tiny compared to two AAs, and 
gave me roughly double number of pictures that I got out of two 2700mAh 
NiCads.  You can get third party ones off eBay that works just as well 
and cost little more than good AAs.  Something else to keep in mind is 
that few rechargeable AAs can discharge as fast as the dedicated camera 
batteries, which means your flash cycle time is slower, unless you 
invest in the best AAs you can find.  To that end, the Uniross 2700mAh 
are the best I've found so far.


But each to him/herself.

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Re: digital camera recomendations

[Girish Kulkarni]

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Mike McClain wrote:
> I'm in the market for an inexpensive digital camera.  Just for
> snapshots and was wondering if anyone had recommendations or
> knows where I could find which are going to work with Debian.
> Just something simple with USB, AA batteries and that uses a
> generic mem card.

Nobody seems to have pointed out the Nikon D40.  It is cheap, light,
"simple", can get you snapshots and uses an SD card that is easy to
use with Debian.  No AA batteries though.  See:

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/recommended-cameras.htm

Girish.


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Re: digital camera recomendations

[Ron Johnson]

On 02/18/2009 11:34 AM, Mike McClain wrote:

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 04:40:04PM +, kj wrote:

Mike McClain wrote:

I'm in the market for an inexpensive digital camera.
 
Out of curiosity, why AA?   Losing the AA will give you a much more 
compact camera.  Very few cameras accept AA batteries these days 
anyway.Either ways, just get a USB card reader - they can be had for 
a few bucks and show up as a generic mass storage device, regardless of 
the type of card.


AA batteries are cheap, readily available and I can get NiCad and NiMH. 
Custom rechargable battery packs are like printer ink cartridges.


My Kodak Z8612IS can use either AA or CR-V3, takes good pics, and 
gthumb recognizes it.


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Re: digital camera recomendations

[H.S.]

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 04:40:04PM +, kj wrote:
>> Mike McClain wrote:
>>> I'm in the market for an inexpensive digital camera.
>>> Just for snapshots and was wondering if anyone had recommendations
>>> or knows where I could find which are going to work with Debian.
>>> Just something simple with USB, AA batteries and that uses a generic
>>> mem card.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mike
>> Out of curiosity, why AA?   Losing the AA will give you a much more  
>> compact camera.  Very few cameras accept AA batteries these days
>> anyway.  
> 
> while I can't speak for OP, I love having a camera that takes AA for a
> variety of reasons: ready availability of spares anywhere, common
> usage in a multitude of devices meaning my stock of rechargeables is
> more versatile, big hands don't like tiny tiny cameras ;-)
> 
> A

In my experience, the proprietary batteries last longer but are much
more expensive. In a G5 I have, the battery needed to be replaced after
around 4 years. And some months after that the camera developed a few
hot pixels. So it appears as though the life of the CCD sensor may not
be that much longer than the propitiatory battery, which actually gives
a much better performance.

In addition to the cost factor, the main quirk I have with these kind of
models is that the camera cannot be used during the recharging of the
battery (unless one buys an external charger, though some camera may
have them included).

Having said this, I also have a A520 which takes AA batteries. I also
have one of those wonderful Maha chargers which trickle charge batteries
after they are fully charge. So I can use a set of AA batteries while
the other is being charged. The downside is that I have to take the
charger with me if I travel. Finally, rechargeable NiMH batteries last
longer and change used in other appliances as well and are cheaper than
proprietary ones.

Final word: depends on the usage and the user of the camera. Eg. I
prefer AA batteries. But recently an uncle of mine, who is a senior
citizen, asked for camera recommendation and I suggested he go for a
camera with a "built-in battery". It is much more compact and there is
lesser stuff to worry about.


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Re: digital camera recomendations

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 04:40:04PM +, kj wrote:
> Mike McClain wrote:
>> I'm in the market for an inexpensive digital camera.
>> Just for snapshots and was wondering if anyone had recommendations
>> or knows where I could find which are going to work with Debian.
>> Just something simple with USB, AA batteries and that uses a generic
>> mem card.
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>
> Out of curiosity, why AA?   Losing the AA will give you a much more  
> compact camera.  Very few cameras accept AA batteries these days
> anyway.  

while I can't speak for OP, I love having a camera that takes AA for a
variety of reasons: ready availability of spares anywhere, common
usage in a multitude of devices meaning my stock of rechargeables is
more versatile, big hands don't like tiny tiny cameras ;-)

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Re: digital camera recomendations

[Mike McClain]

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 04:40:04PM +, kj wrote:
> Mike McClain wrote:
> >I'm in the market for an inexpensive digital camera.
 
> 
> Out of curiosity, why AA?   Losing the AA will give you a much more 
> compact camera.  Very few cameras accept AA batteries these days 
> anyway.Either ways, just get a USB card reader - they can be had for 
> a few bucks and show up as a generic mass storage device, regardless of 
> the type of card.

AA batteries are cheap, readily available and I can get NiCad and NiMH. 
Custom rechargable battery packs are like printer ink cartridges.

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Re: digital camera recomendations

[kj]

Mike McClain wrote:

I'm in the market for an inexpensive digital camera.
Just for snapshots and was wondering if anyone had recommendations
or knows where I could find which are going to work with Debian.
Just something simple with USB, AA batteries and that uses a generic
mem card.
Thanks,
Mike


Out of curiosity, why AA?   Losing the AA will give you a much more 
compact camera.  Very few cameras accept AA batteries these days 
anyway.Either ways, just get a USB card reader - they can be had for 
a few bucks and show up as a generic mass storage device, regardless of 
the type of card.


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Re: digital camera recomendations

[Paul Cartwright]

On Sat February 14 2009, Mike McClain wrote:
> I'm in the market for an inexpensive digital camera.
> Just for snapshots and was wondering if anyone had recommendations
> or knows where I could find which are going to work with Debian.
> Just something simple with USB, AA batteries and that uses a generic
> mem card.

when you say "generic" memory card.. just a small FYI. As I found out when I 
added an 8Gb card for my mp3 player. Neither one of my PCs with SD slots 
would recognize it. for anything over 4Gb you need it to be an HDSC capable 
slot, not just SD..  My camera has the USB cable to PC, so it will transfer 
just fine, but I made the mistake of trying to plug in the 8GB card from the 
MP3 player directly into the PC, and that didn't work. As long as you can 
just plug the camera into the PC using the USB cable it just work fine.

For my camera I use digikam app , fire up digikam, and tell it to import from 
USB-camera, and it brings up a nice window with all the pictures on the 
camera that you can select from to transfer/delete..

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Re: digital camera recomendations

[Alex Samad]

On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 08:18:32PM -0500, H.S. wrote:
> Allan Wind wrote:
> 
> > Most cameras support mass storage device class these days.
> > 
> >> AA batteries
> 
> How about Canon Powershot A620 or a more recent model in these series?

we just bought a power shot g10 love it and it works well with debian -
mass storage  and its recognised as a digital camera

the only issue i have is the flash takes a bit to get ready when turning
on
> 
> 
> > That is probably what limits your choices the most.
> > 
> >> and that uses a generic
> >> mem card.
> > 
> > You may want to make that one of the SD (or Compact Flash).  Sony, I 
> > think, are the only company that pushes memory sticks.  MMC was iffy on 
> > Linux although I think things improved and the world is moving on.
> 
> 
> I have experience with DSC S40 digital camera by Sony. It uses memory
> stick. But it plays really nice with Linux (Ubuntu 8.04 in this case).
> IIRC, it plays nicer than some Canon cameras  I was able to change
> the label of the memory stick while the camera was connected to the USB
> port, something I haven't been able to do with a Canon camera. Other
> than this little quirk though, I have never had a problem with any Canon
> camera either (have Powershot A520 and G5, both work quite nicely with
> Debian Testing, Unstable and Ubuntu).
> 
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[H.S.]

Allan Wind wrote:

> Most cameras support mass storage device class these days.
> 
>> AA batteries

How about Canon Powershot A620 or a more recent model in these series?


> That is probably what limits your choices the most.
> 
>> and that uses a generic
>> mem card.
> 
> You may want to make that one of the SD (or Compact Flash).  Sony, I 
> think, are the only company that pushes memory sticks.  MMC was iffy on 
> Linux although I think things improved and the world is moving on.


I have experience with DSC S40 digital camera by Sony. It uses memory
stick. But it plays really nice with Linux (Ubuntu 8.04 in this case).
IIRC, it plays nicer than some Canon cameras  I was able to change
the label of the memory stick while the camera was connected to the USB
port, something I haven't been able to do with a Canon camera. Other
than this little quirk though, I have never had a problem with any Canon
camera either (have Powershot A520 and G5, both work quite nicely with
Debian Testing, Unstable and Ubuntu).



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Re: digital camera recomendations

[mitch]

On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 15:30 -0800, Mike McClain wrote:
> I'm in the market for an inexpensive digital camera.
> Just for snapshots and was wondering if anyone had recommendations
> or knows where I could find which are going to work with Debian.
> Just something simple with USB, AA batteries and that uses a generic
> mem card.
> Thanks,
> Mike

I work at a nationwide chain of Camera/Imaging stores.

AA batteries are used in Nikon, Canon and Fuji's and Panasonic. Best to
go with rechargeable batteries.

Most use SD cards. Olympus still uses xD and Sony uses Memory Sticks.

All are capable of producing snap shots. Have a look at the Fuji J150W,
although it does not use AA's, we moved a lot of them at the holiday and
people are very pleased with the product.

Nikon L18's are +/- 119$ 

Have a look at Canon A series, also.



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Re: digital camera recomendations

[Allan Wind]

On 2009-02-14T15:30:41, Mike McClain wrote:
> I'm in the market for an inexpensive digital camera.
> Just for snapshots and was wondering if anyone had recommendations
> or knows where I could find which are going to work with Debian.
> Just something simple with USB,

Most cameras support mass storage device class these days.

> AA batteries

That is probably what limits your choices the most.

> and that uses a generic
> mem card.

You may want to make that one of the SD (or Compact Flash).  Sony, I 
think, are the only company that pushes memory sticks.  MMC was iffy on 
Linux although I think things improved and the world is moving on.

Check out: .

Unless you plan on enlarging or cropping your images mega pixels (MP) is 
irrelevant.  If you can try take some photos of people in conditions 
that require flash.  Some cameras elicit closed eyes, others are too 
slow to capture what you point at.

We have been disappointed with Panasonic Lumix DMC-FX35 (2008), and 
somewhat frustrated with the closed eyes of a Nikon Coolpix 7900 (2005) 
but have some beautiful results from it.  If you don't mind the bulk 
check out the entry level DSLRs; they use bigger sensors than point and 
shoot cameras and are coming down in price.


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Re: Digital Camera

[David Fox]

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 5:51 PM, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  There's also lsusb:
>
>  (0) phreaque [root] /root_ lsusb
>  Bus 003 Device 001: ID :
>  Bus 002 Device 001: ID :
>  Bus 001 Device 006: ID 03e8:2186 EndPoints, Inc.

Most likely that's the bus ID of the camera. I tried doing a google
search for that string (or just a substring) and it just shows this
post, nothing else.


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Re: Digital Camera

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On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 01:51:00AM +0100, s. keeling wrote:
> David Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >  On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:27 AM, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >  (1) phreaque /home/keeling_ gphoto2 --auto-detect
> > >  Model  Port
> > >  --
> > >  (0) phreaque /home/keeling_
> > 
> >  So it doesn't detect it at all, then. Bummer. Are there entries in
> >  /var/log/messages as you plug in (and unplug) the camera from the USB?
> 
> tail -f syslog# unplug, then plug.  I notice it had address
>   # 6, then it gets address 7.  Huh.  Guess that's
>   # udev. 
> 
> Mar 27 18:43:18 phreaque kernel: usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 6
> Mar 27 18:43:29 phreaque kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using 
> uhci_hcd and address 7
> Mar 27 18:43:29 phreaque kernel: usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 
> choice
> 
> >  Those might be of use, especially in composing a message to the
> >  gphoto2 mailing list.
> > 
> >  Pretty much, those IDs have to match perfectly or it can't be used.
> 
> There's also lsusb:
> 
> (0) phreaque [root] /root_ lsusb
> Bus 003 Device 001: ID :
> Bus 002 Device 001: ID :
> Bus 001 Device 006: ID 03e8:2186 EndPoints, Inc.
> Bus 001 Device 001: ID :
> 
> Lots to go on it seems, but this thing will have to wait for
> solutions, barring what gphoto2 ml says.
> 
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If the camera has a memory card, then try a memory card reader.  I had a
concord eye-Q and that is how I did the download of photos.  By the way,
I did not use gphoto2.  I manually "mount" and "umount" the drive.
With Gnome or KDE the mounting is automatically.  Hope this helps.


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Re: Digital Camera

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David Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:27 AM, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  (1) phreaque /home/keeling_ gphoto2 --auto-detect
> >  Model  Port
> >  --
> >  (0) phreaque /home/keeling_
> 
>  So it doesn't detect it at all, then. Bummer. Are there entries in
>  /var/log/messages as you plug in (and unplug) the camera from the USB?

tail -f syslog# unplug, then plug.  I notice it had address
  # 6, then it gets address 7.  Huh.  Guess that's
  # udev. 

Mar 27 18:43:18 phreaque kernel: usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 6
Mar 27 18:43:29 phreaque kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using 
uhci_hcd and address 7
Mar 27 18:43:29 phreaque kernel: usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice

>  Those might be of use, especially in composing a message to the
>  gphoto2 mailing list.
> 
>  Pretty much, those IDs have to match perfectly or it can't be used.

There's also lsusb:

(0) phreaque [root] /root_ lsusb
Bus 003 Device 001: ID :
Bus 002 Device 001: ID :
Bus 001 Device 006: ID 03e8:2186 EndPoints, Inc.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID :

Lots to go on it seems, but this thing will have to wait for
solutions, barring what gphoto2 ml says.


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Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>  On 03/26/08 07:27, s. keeling wrote:
> > 
> > (1) phreaque /home/keeling_ gphoto2 --auto-detect
> > Model  Port
> > --
> > (0) phreaque /home/keeling_
> 
>  Buy a new camera?  They're *really* cheap...

This one was free.  I wouldn't be fiddling with this if somebody
hadn't given it to me.  I only care about what it's teaching me.  I
don't care about digital cameras.

Besides, you get what you pay for.  It's a great deal, so far.


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> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>  On 03/25/08 19:00, s. keeling wrote:
>>> David Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:34 PM, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  I've one seriously cheapo Concord Eye-Q 1000 (1.3 Mpx res.).  This
>  model is not listed in gtkam's database.  Does digiKam handle it?
  There's no exact match in digikam (current lenny) but there are some
  other close models to that Concord model. You might try one of those.
>>> Tried 'em all.  gtkam can't detect it using any of them.
>>  I think I'd just try this, and see what happens:
>>
>>  # gphoto2 --verbose --auto-detect
> 
> (1) phreaque /home/keeling_ gphoto2 --auto-detect
> Model  Port
> --
> (0) phreaque /home/keeling_

Buy a new camera?  They're *really* cheap...

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On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:27 AM, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  (1) phreaque /home/keeling_ gphoto2 --auto-detect
>  Model  Port
>  --
>  (0) phreaque /home/keeling_

So it doesn't detect it at all, then. Bummer. Are there entries in
/var/log/messages as you plug in (and unplug) the camera from the USB?
Those might be of use, especially in composing a message to the
gphoto2 mailing list.

Pretty much, those IDs have to match perfectly or it can't be used.


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Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>  On 03/25/08 19:00, s. keeling wrote:
> > David Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>  On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:34 PM, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>  I've one seriously cheapo Concord Eye-Q 1000 (1.3 Mpx res.).  This
> >>>  model is not listed in gtkam's database.  Does digiKam handle it?
> >>  There's no exact match in digikam (current lenny) but there are some
> >>  other close models to that Concord model. You might try one of those.
> > 
> > Tried 'em all.  gtkam can't detect it using any of them.
> 
>  I think I'd just try this, and see what happens:
> 
>  # gphoto2 --verbose --auto-detect

(1) phreaque /home/keeling_ gphoto2 --auto-detect
Model  Port
--
(0) phreaque /home/keeling_


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On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 5:00 PM, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  USB cable on PC end, looks like very small proprietary connector on
>  camera end.  I don't think it's mini-USB, but I could be wrong.

rant - I hate proprietary usb cables. I got screwed by that experience ;(.

>  No such luck.  They put in a 2 digit LCD shot counter, though.  :-P

Darn. Hope you have success.


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> David Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>  On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:34 PM, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>  I've one seriously cheapo Concord Eye-Q 1000 (1.3 Mpx res.).  This
>>>  model is not listed in gtkam's database.  Does digiKam handle it?
>>  There's no exact match in digikam (current lenny) but there are some
>>  other close models to that Concord model. You might try one of those.
> 
> Tried 'em all.  gtkam can't detect it using any of them.
> 
>>  Does that camera mount as a USB device or PTP?
> 
> USB cable on PC end, looks like very small proprietary connector on
> camera end.  I don't think it's mini-USB, but I could be wrong.
> 
>>  was supported. But it has a better chance of being supported possibly
>>  because there are free "open" (so called) drivers on the Net for it.
>>  Which of course, could mean anything, like a binary wrapper claiming
>>  they gave you source code when they really didn't.
> 
> About as useful as that Windows zip file I pulled down off their
> website the other night.  Don't know what I'm going to do with it, but
> I have it.
> 
>> >From 'gphoto2" on my system - it seems that these are the same models
>>  that digikam supports, presumably because digikam uses gphoto2 as a a
>>  backend (not sure about this).
> 
> That's what I read as well.
> 
>>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gphoto2 --list-cameras | grep Concord
>>  "Concord Eye-Q Duo" (EXPERIMENTAL)
> 
> Same list here.
> 
>>  Again, not the exact model, but this is a good starting point. Another
>>  possibility (should this not be helpful) would be to inquire on the
>>  gphoto2 mailing list. I did that before to get feedback and to help
> 
> I'll troll their archives.  Thanks.
> 
>>  All this is moot IF your camera supports a removable SD card (which it
> 
> No such luck.  They put in a 2 digit LCD shot counter, though.  :-P

I think I'd just try this, and see what happens:

# gphoto2 --verbose --auto-detect

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David Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:34 PM, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >  I've one seriously cheapo Concord Eye-Q 1000 (1.3 Mpx res.).  This
> >  model is not listed in gtkam's database.  Does digiKam handle it?
> 
>  There's no exact match in digikam (current lenny) but there are some
>  other close models to that Concord model. You might try one of those.

Tried 'em all.  gtkam can't detect it using any of them.

>  Does that camera mount as a USB device or PTP?

USB cable on PC end, looks like very small proprietary connector on
camera end.  I don't think it's mini-USB, but I could be wrong.

>  was supported. But it has a better chance of being supported possibly
>  because there are free "open" (so called) drivers on the Net for it.
>  Which of course, could mean anything, like a binary wrapper claiming
>  they gave you source code when they really didn't.

About as useful as that Windows zip file I pulled down off their
website the other night.  Don't know what I'm going to do with it, but
I have it.

> >From 'gphoto2" on my system - it seems that these are the same models
>  that digikam supports, presumably because digikam uses gphoto2 as a a
>  backend (not sure about this).

That's what I read as well.

>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gphoto2 --list-cameras | grep Concord
>  "Concord Eye-Q Duo" (EXPERIMENTAL)

Same list here.

>  Again, not the exact model, but this is a good starting point. Another
>  possibility (should this not be helpful) would be to inquire on the
>  gphoto2 mailing list. I did that before to get feedback and to help

I'll troll their archives.  Thanks.

>  All this is moot IF your camera supports a removable SD card (which it

No such luck.  They put in a 2 digit LCD shot counter, though.  :-P


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On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:34 PM, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  I've one seriously cheapo Concord Eye-Q 1000 (1.3 Mpx res.).  This
>  model is not listed in gtkam's database.  Does digiKam handle it?

There's no exact match in digikam (current lenny) but there are some
other close models to that Concord model. You might try one of those.
Does that camera mount as a USB device or PTP?

On the subject of cheap cameras, my first foray was a $10 key chain
camera that really sucked but I managed to get it working in Linux,
but I had to use gphoto2 to do it. And if the USB manufacturer ID
isn't there, chances are it's not supported. The little I checked on
Google for this camera, I didn't manage to see anything that said it
was supported. But it has a better chance of being supported possibly
because there are free "open" (so called) drivers on the Net for it.
Which of course, could mean anything, like a binary wrapper claiming
they gave you source code when they really didn't.

>From 'gphoto2" on my system - it seems that these are the same models
that digikam supports, presumably because digikam uses gphoto2 as a a
backend (not sure about this).

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gphoto2 --list-cameras | grep Concord
"Concord Eye-Q Duo" (EXPERIMENTAL)
"Concord Eye-Q Easy" (EXPERIMENTAL)
"Concord EyeQ 4330" (EXPERIMENTAL)
"Concord EyeQMini_1" (EXPERIMENTAL)
"Concord EyeQMini_2" (EXPERIMENTAL)

Again, not the exact model, but this is a good starting point. Another
possibility (should this not be helpful) would be to inquire on the
gphoto2 mailing list. I did that before to get feedback and to help
test various ways to use that cheap camera before I saw reason and got
a Kodak C310 :).

All this is moot IF your camera supports a removable SD card (which it
seems to) since it is far easier to just get a cheap SD card reader
USB attachment, and take the card out when you want to download the
pictures.


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Nick Boyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  Tyler Smith wrote:
> >> Robert Thompson wrote:
> >>
> >>> Question is: How does digital cameras work with
> >>> Debian?
> >
> > I've found gthumb to be a pretty good place to begin
> > There are doubtless also KDE apps that do the same thing, if you
> > prefer.
> 
>  For KDE there is 'digiKam' :
>  http://www.digikam.org/about.html
>  http://packages.debian.org/digikam

On my system (pretty much bare-metal + X), that wants to slurp in
about twenty packages.  gthumb wants to slurp in just about as
many.  :-)

I've one seriously cheapo Concord Eye-Q 1000 (1.3 Mpx res.).  This
model is not listed in gtkam's database.  Does digiKam handle it?


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Re: Digital Camera

[Charlie]

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, Adam Hardy shared this with us all:
>--} nikon D60 on 23/03/08 20:37, wrote:
>--} > http://www.nikond60.com Nikon D60
>--} >
>--} > Robert Thompson wrote:
>--} >> Hello All,
>--} >>I also have a digital camera that I love. It is a Sony that uses a
> USB --} >> to
>--} >> connect to the computer. Question is: How does digital cameras work
> with --} >> Debian?
>--}
>--} Try:
>--}
>--} sudo gphoto2 --auto-detect -P

This might not suit but I do it this way:

Plug in your camera, or have your camera plugged in when you boot:

Using  as root - discover the UUID="" of the camera and 
make a suitable entry into your /etc/fstab file:

UUID=  /camvfatrw,user,noauto  0   0

Plug your camera in whenever you have photos to remove from it
 or  them to the directory you want on your hard drive and work on 
them there with Gimp.

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Tyler Smith wrote:


Robert Thompson wrote:

>>

Question is: How does digital cameras work with
Debian?


>

I've found gthumb to be a pretty good place to begin
There are doubtless also KDE apps that do the same thing, if you prefer.


For KDE there is 'digiKam' :
http://www.digikam.org/about.html
http://packages.debian.org/digikam

I haven't tried it (don't have a digital camera).

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nikon D60 on 23/03/08 20:37, wrote:
http://www.nikond60.com Nikon D60 


Robert Thompson wrote:

Hello All,
   I also have a digital camera that I love. It is a Sony that uses a USB
to
connect to the computer. Question is: How does digital cameras work with
Debian?


Try:

sudo gphoto2 --auto-detect -P



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http://www.nikond60.com Nikon D60 

Robert Thompson wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
>I also have a digital camera that I love. It is a Sony that uses a USB
> to
> connect to the computer. Question is: How does digital cameras work with
> Debian?
> 
> Thanks
> Eric
> 
> 

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Re: Digital Camera

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 12:37:56AM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 02/20/08 22:01, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>>   
>>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 08:50:12AM -0800, canona650 wrote:
>>> 
 http://www.canona560.com Canon A560 


   
>>> What are you, some kind of canon spambot? 
>>
>> Great minds think alike...
>>
>>
>>   
>
> And so do y'all's!  ;-)

heh. the question is, can we shoot the spambot from the canon?

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On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 12:37:56AM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 02/20/08 22:01, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>>   
>>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 08:50:12AM -0800, canona650 wrote:
>>> 
 http://www.canona560.com Canon A560 
   
>>> What are you, some kind of canon spambot? 
>>
>> Great minds think alike...
>
> And so do y'all's!  ;-)


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[Johann Spies]

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 08:51:18AM -0800, canona650 wrote:

> > apt-cache search digital | grep camera
> > photopc - Interface to digital still cameras
> > phototk - GUI interface for digital cameras
> > pencam - Download images from STV0680B-001 chip based digital cameras
> > fujiplay - Interface for Fuji digital cameras
> > dcraw - decode raw digital camera images
> > coriander - control IEEE1394 digital camera
> > camera.app - GNUstep application for digital still cameras
> > libdc1394-examples - high level programming interface for IEEE1394 digital
> > camera
> > libdc1394-11-dev - high level programming interface for IEEE1394 digital
> > camera
> > gphoto2 - The gphoto2 digital camera command-line client
> > gtkam - GTK+ application for digital still cameras
> > exiftran - transform digital camera jpeg images
> > exiftags - Utility to read Exif tags from a digital camera JPEG file
> > libgphoto2-2 - gphoto2 digital camera library
> > libgphoto2-port0 - gphoto2 digital camera port library
> > libgphoto2-2-dev - gphoto2 digital camera library (development files)
> > metacam - extract EXIF information from digital camera files
> > libdc1394-11 - high level programming interface for IEEE1394 digital
> > camera
> > kamera - digital camera io_slave for Konquerer
> > 
> > 

Try f-spot. 

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Ron Johnson wrote:

On 02/20/08 22:01, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
  

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 08:50:12AM -0800, canona650 wrote:

http://www.canona560.com Canon A560 



  
What are you, some kind of canon spambot? 



Great minds think alike...


  


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>> http://www.canona560.com Canon A560 
>>
>>
> 
> What are you, some kind of canon spambot? 

Great minds think alike...

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On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 08:50:12AM -0800, canona650 wrote:
> 
> http://www.canona560.com Canon A560 
> 
> 

What are you, some kind of canon spambot? 

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> Robert Thompson wrote:
> > 
> > Hello All,
> >I also have a digital camera that I love. It is a Sony that uses a USB
> > to
> > connect to the computer. Question is: How does digital cameras work with
> > Debian?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Eric
> > 
> > 
> 
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> >I also have a digital camera that I love. It is a Sony that uses a USB
> > to
> > connect to the computer. Question is: How does digital cameras work with
> > Debian?

The Sony i have (Cybershot DSC U10) has memory-sticks so it works just
like any other mass-storage usb device.

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http://www.canona560.com Canon A560 

Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 10:12:47AM +0200, Bayrouni wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I need nice software for my digcameraital .
>> But I have'nt any idea which software is fine for accessng, reading, ... 
>> all enabled info and data on the camera.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> Bayrouni
> 
> 
> apt-cache search digital | grep camera
> photopc - Interface to digital still cameras
> phototk - GUI interface for digital cameras
> pencam - Download images from STV0680B-001 chip based digital cameras
> fujiplay - Interface for Fuji digital cameras
> dcraw - decode raw digital camera images
> coriander - control IEEE1394 digital camera
> camera.app - GNUstep application for digital still cameras
> libdc1394-examples - high level programming interface for IEEE1394 digital
> camera
> libdc1394-11-dev - high level programming interface for IEEE1394 digital
> camera
> gphoto2 - The gphoto2 digital camera command-line client
> gtkam - GTK+ application for digital still cameras
> exiftran - transform digital camera jpeg images
> exiftags - Utility to read Exif tags from a digital camera JPEG file
> libgphoto2-2 - gphoto2 digital camera library
> libgphoto2-port0 - gphoto2 digital camera port library
> libgphoto2-2-dev - gphoto2 digital camera library (development files)
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Re: Digital Camera

[canona650]

http://www.canona560.com Canon A560 


Robert Thompson wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
>I also have a digital camera that I love. It is a Sony that uses a USB
> to
> connect to the computer. Question is: How does digital cameras work with
> Debian?
> 
> Thanks
> Eric
> 
> 

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Re: Digital Camera

[Tyler Smith]

> Robert Thompson wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>>I also have a digital camera that I love. It is a Sony that uses a USB
>> to
>> connect to the computer. Question is: How does digital cameras work with
>> Debian?
>> 

I'm just getting started with my new digital camera, and I've found
gthumb to be a pretty good place to begin. You can get it through the
standard repositories, and it should pull in all the necessary
libraries to communicate with your camera. There are doubtless also
KDE apps that do the same thing, if you prefer.

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Re: Digital Camera

[Javier Vasquez]

On 12/26/07, canonsx100 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://www.canonsx100.com
>
> Robert Thompson wrote:
> >
> > Hello All,
> >I also have a digital camera that I love. It is a Sony that uses a USB
> > to
> > connect to the computer. Question is: How does digital cameras work with
> > Debian?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Eric


I'm not sure about what you're looking for.  However I'll suppose
you're asking about how to access the camera memory so you can upload
stuff from the camera's memory to your box...

If the camera is a mass storage compliant device, then there's no much
to do, it's automatically recognized, and you can mount it as any
other mass storage device, like memory keys, etc.  Usually they come
under vfat FS, so you can try mounting under vfat...  If not, then
maybe gphotofs can come handy.  It's kind of a virtual FS through
fuse.  I hope it helps...

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Robert Thompson wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
>I also have a digital camera that I love. It is a Sony that uses a USB
> to
> connect to the computer. Question is: How does digital cameras work with
> Debian?
> 
> Thanks
> Eric
> 
> 

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Re: Digital Camera Flash Memory won't Mount

[Mike McCarty]

Micha Feigin wrote:



The problem is not the usb port but whether the kernel negotiates with the
device properly. Try to first connect the reader without the card and then do
immediately cat /proc/bus/usb/devices (lsusb should work also). If the device is
negotiated with properly, this should return rather quickly and show the
existing usb ports and the plugged in device. If this locks up for 10-20
seconds and then doesn't show the device then linux is doing something that the
device doesn't like. This may be solved by later/earlier kernels, but can also
be handled by a different card reader. Once this returns, recognizing the
device or not, run dmesg | tail -n 40. You should see messages telling about
what went on. If you post the output for both of these we could probably help
more.


Ok, thanks for the kind reply. I'll send this on to her, and we'll see
what comes back.


If the device is recognized properly, then it may just be an issue of mounting
the right thing (these cards are sometimes formatted in different ways in term
of file systems and partitions).


Yes. I can probably get her to mount it on her XP laptop, and
find out what file system Windows thinks is on there.

Thanks again for the reply.

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Re: Digital Camera Flash Memory won't Mount

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On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 14:56:38 -0500
Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Micha Feigin wrote:
> 
> Hey, thanks for the kind reply.
> 
> > On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 02:32:51 -0500
> > Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>Ron Johnson wrote:
> >>
> >>>-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> >>>Mike McCarty wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> My girlfriend has a Sony Mavica MVC FD200 with Flash Memory
> >>
> >>[and can't get it to mount]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>"Flash Memory" is too ambiguous.  SD, MMC, CF, or (probably, since
> >>>this is Sony) Memory Stick?
> >>
> >>[snip]
> >>
> >>Thanks for your kind response.
> >>
> >>I'll get more information and put it here...
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > Although there is a basic usb disk protocol, different devices have
> > different abilities and some of them don't respond well to the quarries
> > about their abilities.
> > 
> > At least for me, the generic card readers tend to work a lot better then
> > connecting the cameras directly.
> 
> I thought I addressed that issue with my OP.
> 
> >> My girlfriend has a Sony Mavica MVC FD200 with Flash Memory
> >> cards. The card reader is a Dazzle USB card reader. It mounts
> >> just fine with Windows XP, but does not mount with Debian.
> 
> She's not trying to mount the camera directly, she's
> trying to mount the memory card using a Dazzle USB reader.
> 
> > If you can compile a kernel yourself then you can compile in debugging for
> > usb to get some debug messages.
> 
> I'd rather not. If Debian or any other version of Linux can't do the
> things she wants, then it's going to get tossed off the machine, and
> XP installed, probably.
> 
> > You can also try to look at the output of dmesg and
> > cat /proc/bus/usb/devices, the first gives you the kernel messages and the
> > second, what usb devices are recognized on your system.
> 
> Worth a shot. Thanks!
> 
> She has successfully mounted a USB drive on the same USB port.
> 

The problem is not the usb port but whether the kernel negotiates with the
device properly. Try to first connect the reader without the card and then do
immediately cat /proc/bus/usb/devices (lsusb should work also). If the device is
negotiated with properly, this should return rather quickly and show the
existing usb ports and the plugged in device. If this locks up for 10-20
seconds and then doesn't show the device then linux is doing something that the
device doesn't like. This may be solved by later/earlier kernels, but can also
be handled by a different card reader. Once this returns, recognizing the
device or not, run dmesg | tail -n 40. You should see messages telling about
what went on. If you post the output for both of these we could probably help
more.

If the device is recognized properly, then it may just be an issue of mounting
the right thing (these cards are sometimes formatted in different ways in term
of file systems and partitions).

> Mike


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Re: Digital Camera Flash Memory won't Mount

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Mike McCarty wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> 
>> "Flash Memory" is too ambiguous.  SD, MMC, CF, or (probably, since
>> this is Sony) Memory Stick?
>>
> 
> SanDisk 128 mg SDMS 0343SD7

Ok, it's a Memory Stick.

Try this
$ dmesg | tail -n40

Insert the MS, wait 10 seconds

$ dmesg | tail -n40

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Re: Digital Camera Flash Memory won't Mount

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Micha Feigin wrote:

Hey, thanks for the kind reply.


On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 02:32:51 -0500
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Ron Johnson wrote:


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My girlfriend has a Sony Mavica MVC FD200 with Flash Memory


[and can't get it to mount]




"Flash Memory" is too ambiguous.  SD, MMC, CF, or (probably, since
this is Sony) Memory Stick?


[snip]

Thanks for your kind response.

I'll get more information and put it here...




Although there is a basic usb disk protocol, different devices have different
abilities and some of them don't respond well to the quarries about their
abilities.

At least for me, the generic card readers tend to work a lot better then
connecting the cameras directly.


I thought I addressed that issue with my OP.


My girlfriend has a Sony Mavica MVC FD200 with Flash Memory
cards. The card reader is a Dazzle USB card reader. It mounts
just fine with Windows XP, but does not mount with Debian.


She's not trying to mount the camera directly, she's
trying to mount the memory card using a Dazzle USB reader.


If you can compile a kernel yourself then you can compile in debugging for usb
to get some debug messages.


I'd rather not. If Debian or any other version of Linux can't do the
things she wants, then it's going to get tossed off the machine, and
XP installed, probably.


You can also try to look at the output of dmesg and cat /proc/bus/usb/devices,
the first gives you the kernel messages and the second, what usb devices are
recognized on your system.


Worth a shot. Thanks!

She has successfully mounted a USB drive on the same USB port.

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Re: Digital Camera Flash Memory won't Mount

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Ron Johnson wrote:


"Flash Memory" is too ambiguous.  SD, MMC, CF, or (probably, since
this is Sony) Memory Stick?



SanDisk 128 mg SDMS 0343SD7


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Re: Digital Camera Flash Memory won't Mount

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On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 02:32:51 -0500
Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ron Johnson wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> > 
> > Mike McCarty wrote:
> > 
> >>My girlfriend has a Sony Mavica MVC FD200 with Flash Memory
> 
> [and can't get it to mount]
> 
> 
> > 
> > "Flash Memory" is too ambiguous.  SD, MMC, CF, or (probably, since
> > this is Sony) Memory Stick?
> 
> [snip]
> 
> Thanks for your kind response.
> 
> I'll get more information and put it here...
> 

Although there is a basic usb disk protocol, different devices have different
abilities and some of them don't respond well to the quarries about their
abilities.

At least for me, the generic card readers tend to work a lot better then
connecting the cameras directly.

If you can compile a kernel yourself then you can compile in debugging for usb
to get some debug messages.

You can also try to look at the output of dmesg and cat /proc/bus/usb/devices,
the first gives you the kernel messages and the second, what usb devices are
recognized on your system.

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Re: Digital Camera Flash Memory won't Mount

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On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 02:16:37PM +0200, Manon Metten wrote:
> Mike McCarty wrote:
> >My girlfriend has a Sony Mavica MVC FD200 with Flash Memory
> >cards. The card reader is a Dazzle USB card reader. It mounts
> >just fine with Windows XP, but does not mount with Debian.

Hi.  Jumping into the middle of this thread, so ...

Most likely it seems you are missing something in the kernel end of
things.  Some "stupid, lttle" option that would make it work.  I
suggest gathering all the info you can on getting USB and USB readers
together off the 'Net, then compare that with what your kernel has
available...


> >Googling around produced simply reports of problems reading
> >these things at all. One recommended using Belkin, but another
> >recommended against Belkin, for example.
> >
> >I found more than one "How To", but thjey were dated ca.2001,
> >and seemed to be more how to mount *any* USB device, rather
> >than specifically how to use cameras, and was more about how
> >to install the USB support modules. This machine mounts an
> >external USB hard drive with no problems.

Hard drives and other devices don't share all the same options in the
kernel.


> >Mike

> Hi, I have a Sweex 6-in-1 memory card reader. It came with Linux
> drivers on cd (although I've not connected it to my Linux machine, I
> don't expect any problems). I learned that most problems come from
> vendors who don't commit to usb standards.
> 
> Manon.

Do the drivers match the particular kernel you are using?  Or are these
external, user access apps.?


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Re: Digital Camera Flash Memory won't Mount

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Mike McCarty wrote:

My girlfriend has a Sony Mavica MVC FD200 with Flash Memory
cards. The card reader is a Dazzle USB card reader. It mounts
just fine with Windows XP, but does not mount with Debian.

Googling around produced simply reports of problems reading
these things at all. One recommended using Belkin, but another
recommended against Belkin, for example.

I found more than one "How To", but thjey were dated ca.2001,
and seemed to be more how to mount *any* USB device, rather
than specifically how to use cameras, and was more about how
to install the USB support modules. This machine mounts an
external USB hard drive with no problems.

Mike
Hi, I have a Sweex 6-in-1 memory card reader. It came with Linux drivers 
on cd (although I've not connected it to my Linux machine, I don't 
expect any problems). I learned that most problems come from vendors who 
don't commit to usb standards.


Manon.


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Ron Johnson wrote:

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My girlfriend has a Sony Mavica MVC FD200 with Flash Memory


[and can't get it to mount]




"Flash Memory" is too ambiguous.  SD, MMC, CF, or (probably, since
this is Sony) Memory Stick?


[snip]

Thanks for your kind response.

I'll get more information and put it here...

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Re: Digital Camera Flash Memory won't Mount

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Mike McCarty wrote:
> My girlfriend has a Sony Mavica MVC FD200 with Flash Memory
> cards. The card reader is a Dazzle USB card reader. It mounts
> just fine with Windows XP, but does not mount with Debian.
> 
> Googling around produced simply reports of problems reading
> these things at all. One recommended using Belkin, but another
> recommended against Belkin, for example.
> 
> I found more than one "How To", but thjey were dated ca.2001,
> and seemed to be more how to mount *any* USB device, rather
> than specifically how to use cameras, and was more about how
> to install the USB support modules. This machine mounts an
> external USB hard drive with no problems.

"Flash Memory" is too ambiguous.  SD, MMC, CF, or (probably, since
this is Sony) Memory Stick?

The 4-1 flash card reader that comes with my Antec Aria case works
starting with Etch kernel 2.6.8, and the generic USB multi-function
reader that I bought for $20 has worked since kernel 2.6.1.

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Re: Digital Camera

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Hi Hugo,

Am 2006-01-08 12:41:17, schrieb Hugo Vanwoerkom:

> I got a Cannon A410.
> I gambled on its support, but gphoto2 supports the A400 model.
> Won the bet: plug in the USB, issue gphot2 -P and download all the pics.
> 
> But that gamble may not work.

If you do not get it to work, please contact the mailinglist:

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

They will ask you about some test you should do and send the
output back.  Maybe you get your Canon A410 running very fast.

Like my HP PhotoSmart 215.

The gphoto-team is realy great.

Greetings
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Re: Digital Camera

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Am 2006-01-07 19:31:36, schrieb Robert Thompson:
> Hello All,
>I also have a digital camera that I love. It is a Sony that uses a USB to
> connect to the computer. Question is: How does digital cameras work with
> Debian?

It depends on libgphoto2.

Which Camera do you have?

> Thanks
> Eric

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Re: Digital Camera

[Ron Johnson]

On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 19:31 -0500, Robert Thompson wrote:
> Hello All,
>I also have a digital camera that I love. It is a Sony that uses a
> USB to connect to the computer. Question is: How does digital cameras
> work with Debian?

I have a Kodak 4530 that works great with Linux.  The SD card can
be inserted into a flash reader and seen as a vfat filesystem, and
with GNOME 2.10 (and maybe 2.8, don't remember), if you connect it
via the custom USB cable, when you turn the camera on, GNOME will
pop up an app to allow you to preview and import photos.

Of course, Sony always has to be different, though.

http://www.gphoto.org/
http://www.gphoto.org/proj/libgphoto2/support.php
http://www.teaser.fr/~hfiguiere/linux/digicam.html

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Re: Digital Camera

[Paul E Condon]

On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 10:07:22AM +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> On 08 Jan 2006, Roman Makurin wrote:
> > ? ? ?? ??? 08 ?? 2006 03:31 Robert Thompson ???(a):
> > > Hello All,
> > >I also have a digital camera that I love. It is a Sony that uses a USB
> > > to connect to the computer. Question is: How does digital cameras work 
> > > with
> > > Debian?
> > >
> > 
> > Try digikam if you are kde user :) otherwise gtkam
> > 
> > > Thanks
> > > Eric
> > 
> > -- 
> 
> If neither works (they don't for me) try gphoto2 directly. I find this
> works when the frontends don't.
> 
> Anthony
> 

I don't know about Sony cameras in particular, but most low cost
digital cameras have a interface that simulates a vfat file system
like is used on a floppy disk. You can learn how to interface a flash
memory dongle (e.g. Sandisk) and repeat that work for your camera.

Some expensive cameras also have another interface that supports 
setting and examining all the option settings in the camera, e.g.
things like reading and adjusting the digital clock that puts 
time/date stamps on the photos. If your camera is not new and not
expensive, it probably doesn't have this.

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Re: Digital Camera

[Anthony Campbell]

On 08 Jan 2006, Roman Makurin wrote:
> ? ? ?? ??? 08 ?? 2006 03:31 Robert Thompson ???(a):
> > Hello All,
> >I also have a digital camera that I love. It is a Sony that uses a USB
> > to connect to the computer. Question is: How does digital cameras work with
> > Debian?
> >
> 
> Try digikam if you are kde user :) otherwise gtkam
> 
> > Thanks
> > Eric
> 
> -- 

If neither works (they don't for me) try gphoto2 directly. I find this
works when the frontends don't.

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Re: Digital Camera

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Robert Thompson wrote:

Hello All,
   I also have a digital camera that I love. It is a Sony that uses a 
USB to connect to the computer. Question is: How does digital cameras 
work with Debian?




I got a Cannon A410.
I gambled on its support, but gphoto2 supports the A400 model.
Won the bet: plug in the USB, issue gphot2 -P and download all the pics.

But that gamble may not work.

Gphoto2 also supports the Panasonic DMCFZ20, but trying the Panasonic 
DMCLZ2 did *not* work.


So make sure you have the USB hiddev module loaded.

Plug in the camera and issue gphoto2 -P.

If you get pics it works. If not, you're out of luck.

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Re: Digital Camera

[Gene Heskett]

On Sunday 08 January 2006 09:29, Z F wrote:
>The only problem with using camera in linux is often there is no way
>to access raw images from the camera, only jpeg or tiff.
>
Well, in the case of my now ageing (like me :) Olympus C3020, that is 
not an available choice unless you go into the camera's menu's and 
change the saved image format.  So thats not a "linux" problem per sie, 
so quit blaming that on linux, its apparently universal.  Be aware 
though, that saving as a raw will use up the memory card at an 
astounding rate, in my case converting a 64 meg card from an 88 pix 
card to a 6 or less pix card.  AIR .tiff will make it a 13 pix card.  
As I can make quite usable cropped and expanded to 8.5x11s from 
the .jpg's, I don't often wade thru the menu's to find that option.  
Its also lost when you turn the camera off in my case, so after 
experimenting with each format once, I've never done it again.

>--- mvephoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi. Generally speaking, pretty good. However, I tend to move away
>> from the
>> issue of having a digital camera "work" with my computer(s), and use
>> a
>> card-reader instead. This is a] usually faster, b] saves on battery
>> life of
>> the camera and c] a cardreader is most likely "plug and play" and
>> will be
>> recognized by your Linux system very much like a Windows system
>> would.

WRT battery life, I polished up the battery case contacts to remove some 
oxidation, and have now been using the same batteries for about 6 
months.  It was about 6 pictures before I did that.  YMMV of course, 
but if you have a gold colored contact, it may not be gold, but this 
oxidation.  Look it over very carefully with a good glass, shiney, its 
gold, dull, its oxidation.
>> Other than that, Google is your friend :o)
>>
>> On January 7, 2006 06:31 pm, Robert Thompson wrote:
>> > Hello All,
>> >I also have a digital camera that I love. It is a Sony that
>> > uses
>>
>> a USB
>>
>> > to connect to the computer. Question is: How does digital cameras
>>
>> work with
>>
>> > Debian?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Eric
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Re: Digital Camera

[Kenward Vaughan]

On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 06:29:23AM -0800, Z F wrote:
> 
> The only problem with using camera in linux is often there is no way
> to access raw images from the camera, only jpeg or tiff.

Try typing 

apt-cache show dcraw ufraw

for answers to this.


Kenward

> --- mvephoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi. Generally speaking, pretty good. However, I tend to move away
> > from the issue of having a digital camera "work" with my
> > computer(s), and use a card-reader instead. This is a] usually
> > faster, b] saves on battery life of the camera and c] a cardreader
> > is most likely "plug and play" and will be recognized by your Linux
> > system very much like a Windows system would.
> > 
> > Other than that, Google is your friend :o)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On January 7, 2006 06:31 pm, Robert Thompson wrote:
> > > Hello All,

> > > I also have a digital camera that I love. It is a Sony that uses
> > > a USB to connect to the computer. Question is: How does digital
> > > cameras work with Debian?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Eric

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Re: Digital Camera - "RAW"

[Marcel]

Uuhh.. not quite. http://www.cybercom.net/~dcoffin/dcraw/ and read all about 
how without the fantastic effort of open source even PhotoShop would still be 
far behind in the RAW sector.

I have used the RAW plug-in in GIMP, as well as from command line, and it 
works. There are samples online showing the reader the difference between 
Canon's RAW utility and dcraw results.

But... we're straying far from a specific DEBIAN topic here, and I don't want 
to hijack a Debian forum to elaborate on this topic.


On January 8, 2006 09:29 am, Z F wrote:
> The only problem with using camera in linux is often there is no way
> to access raw images from the camera, only jpeg or tiff.
>
> --- mvephoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi. Generally speaking, pretty good. However, I tend to move away
> > from the
> > issue of having a digital camera "work" with my computer(s), and use
> > a
> > card-reader instead. This is a] usually faster, b] saves on battery
> > life of
> > the camera and c] a cardreader is most likely "plug and play" and
> > will be
> > recognized by your Linux system very much like a Windows system
> > would.
> >
> > Other than that, Google is your friend :o)
> >
> > On January 7, 2006 06:31 pm, Robert Thompson wrote:
> > > Hello All,
> > >I also have a digital camera that I love. It is a Sony that uses
> >
> > a USB
> >
> > > to connect to the computer. Question is: How does digital cameras
> >
> > work with
> >
> > > Debian?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Eric
> >
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Re: Digital Camera

[Z F]

The only problem with using camera in linux is often there is no way
to access raw images from the camera, only jpeg or tiff.

--- mvephoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi. Generally speaking, pretty good. However, I tend to move away
> from the 
> issue of having a digital camera "work" with my computer(s), and use
> a 
> card-reader instead. This is a] usually faster, b] saves on battery
> life of 
> the camera and c] a cardreader is most likely "plug and play" and
> will be 
> recognized by your Linux system very much like a Windows system
> would.
> 
> Other than that, Google is your friend :o)
> 
> 
> 
> On January 7, 2006 06:31 pm, Robert Thompson wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >I also have a digital camera that I love. It is a Sony that uses
> a USB
> > to connect to the computer. Question is: How does digital cameras
> work with
> > Debian?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Eric
> 
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Re: Digital Camera

[Roman Makurin]

В сообщении от Воскресенье 08 января 2006 03:31 Robert Thompson написал(a):
> Hello All,
>I also have a digital camera that I love. It is a Sony that uses a USB
> to connect to the computer. Question is: How does digital cameras work with
> Debian?
>

Try digikam if you are kde user :) otherwise gtkam

> Thanks
> Eric

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Re: Digital Camera

[ML]

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 11:31 am, Robert Thompson wrote:
> Hello All,
>I also have a digital camera that I love. It is a Sony that uses a
 USB to > connect to the computer. Question is: How does digital cameras
 work with > Debian?
>
> Thanks
> Eric
>

I have one, an Olympus FE110 digital camera.

It works a treat. I just mount it as a USB device and copy the files onto the 
hard drive, then unplug it. It creates the pictures as .jpg files and the 
movies as .mov files. Very civilised of it I think.

I've never used it in windows, though there is a CD that loads a program for 
loading onto windows. I prefer to use the Gimp for graphics anyway.

I have made a mount point  for it in /etc/fstab and I have just 
one complaint, or two really, that I have not yet found a way to unmount it, 
with different umount commands. 

Also have been unable to delete the files off it. But I think that might be a 
configuration issue, because just writing this I remember that I set it as a 
read only instead of read write permission in fstab. So will have to try that 
next time. Now that I have just changed it.

It is great fun..

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Re: Digital Camera

[David Berg]

> On January 7, 2006 06:31 pm, Robert Thompson wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >I also have a digital camera that I love. It is a Sony that uses a USB
> > to connect to the computer. Question is: How does digital cameras work with
> > Debian?

I have a Sony DSC P8 and it is just a mass storage device.  Add the
proper modules to the kernel (if they're not already there), plug it
in, run

mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /camera

Then copy where you want.  I would assume their other cameras also are
mass storage devices, but you know what happens when you assume so I
won't.

Dave


> >
> > Thanks
> > Eric
>
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Re: Digital Camera

[mvephoto]

Hi. Generally speaking, pretty good. However, I tend to move away from the 
issue of having a digital camera "work" with my computer(s), and use a 
card-reader instead. This is a] usually faster, b] saves on battery life of 
the camera and c] a cardreader is most likely "plug and play" and will be 
recognized by your Linux system very much like a Windows system would.

Other than that, Google is your friend :o)



On January 7, 2006 06:31 pm, Robert Thompson wrote:
> Hello All,
>I also have a digital camera that I love. It is a Sony that uses a USB
> to connect to the computer. Question is: How does digital cameras work with
> Debian?
>
> Thanks
> Eric


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Re: digital camera software

[gothicdoom]

Hi.
This may depend on your camera type.

Mine is a kodak, and I made it work with ptpcam
( http://libptp.sourceforge.net/ )

Hope this helps

Bayrouni wrote:


Hello all,

I need nice software for my digcameraital .
But I have'nt any idea which software is fine for accessng, reading, 
... all enabled info and data on the camera.


Thank you.
Bayrouni





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Re: digital camera software

[Antonio Rodriguez]

On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 08:47:13PM -0300, Romulo Sousa wrote:

> Can one of these software make "slides" w/ pics? You know...select
> some pics, playing a song on the background and then burn a dvd to
> watch the animation? Sorry, but i have no idea how these softwares are
> called.
> 
> Thanks a lot,
> 
> Romulo Sousa

At the computer, from the xterminal: 

music123 directoryofsongs/*ogg &
qiv -m -f -s -d 5 directoryofjpgs/*jpg

To burn a show like this, kino will do it, but you have to read the
manual, I'm not very familiar with it.


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Re: digital camera software

[Romulo Sousa]

On 9/19/05, Antonio Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 10:12:47AM +0200, Bayrouni wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I need nice software for my digcameraital .
> > But I have'nt any idea which software is fine for accessng, reading, ...
> > all enabled info and data on the camera.
> >
> > Thank you.
> > Bayrouni
> 
> 

Can one of these software make "slides" w/ pics? You know...select
some pics, playing a song on the background and then burn a dvd to
watch the animation? Sorry, but i have no idea how these softwares are
called.

Thanks a lot,

Romulo Sousa

> apt-cache search digital | grep camera
> photopc - Interface to digital still cameras
> phototk - GUI interface for digital cameras
> pencam - Download images from STV0680B-001 chip based digital cameras
> fujiplay - Interface for Fuji digital cameras
> dcraw - decode raw digital camera images
> coriander - control IEEE1394 digital camera
> camera.app - GNUstep application for digital still cameras
> libdc1394-examples - high level programming interface for IEEE1394 digital 
> camera
> libdc1394-11-dev - high level programming interface for IEEE1394 digital 
> camera
> gphoto2 - The gphoto2 digital camera command-line client
> gtkam - GTK+ application for digital still cameras
> exiftran - transform digital camera jpeg images
> exiftags - Utility to read Exif tags from a digital camera JPEG file
> libgphoto2-2 - gphoto2 digital camera library
> libgphoto2-port0 - gphoto2 digital camera port library
> libgphoto2-2-dev - gphoto2 digital camera library (development files)
> metacam - extract EXIF information from digital camera files
> libdc1394-11 - high level programming interface for IEEE1394 digital camera
> kamera - digital camera io_slave for Konquerer
> 
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Re: digital camera software

[Kjetil Kjernsmo]

On mandag 19 september 2005, 10:12, Bayrouni wrote:
> I need nice software for my digcameraital .
> But I have'nt any idea which software is fine for accessng, reading,
> ... all enabled info and data on the camera.

If you use KDE, I can recommend digikam. Even though there are many 
features on my wishlist for it, I still find it usable and rather cool.

Cheers,

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Re: digital camera software

[Antonio Rodriguez]

On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 10:12:47AM +0200, Bayrouni wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I need nice software for my digcameraital .
> But I have'nt any idea which software is fine for accessng, reading, ... 
> all enabled info and data on the camera.
> 
> Thank you.
> Bayrouni


apt-cache search digital | grep camera
photopc - Interface to digital still cameras
phototk - GUI interface for digital cameras
pencam - Download images from STV0680B-001 chip based digital cameras
fujiplay - Interface for Fuji digital cameras
dcraw - decode raw digital camera images
coriander - control IEEE1394 digital camera
camera.app - GNUstep application for digital still cameras
libdc1394-examples - high level programming interface for IEEE1394 digital 
camera
libdc1394-11-dev - high level programming interface for IEEE1394 digital camera
gphoto2 - The gphoto2 digital camera command-line client
gtkam - GTK+ application for digital still cameras
exiftran - transform digital camera jpeg images
exiftags - Utility to read Exif tags from a digital camera JPEG file
libgphoto2-2 - gphoto2 digital camera library
libgphoto2-port0 - gphoto2 digital camera port library
libgphoto2-2-dev - gphoto2 digital camera library (development files)
metacam - extract EXIF information from digital camera files
libdc1394-11 - high level programming interface for IEEE1394 digital camera
kamera - digital camera io_slave for Konquerer


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Re: digital camera (100 - 200 USD price range)

[Frederik Dannemare]

On Sunday 02 January 2005 02:32, David Mandelberg wrote:
> My sister is looking to get a digital camera, and I'm trying to find
> one that is compatible with ubuntu or another easy to use debian
> derivative (or debian itself if sarge/etch is user friendly enough).
>
> Any suggestions appreciated.

Bought a Kodak CX7300[1] for my girlfriend this Christmas. It doesn't 
have optical zoom, but is otherwise a very fine camera in the USD 100 
price-range. She's happily using it with digikam on sarge.

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Re: digital camera (100 - 200 USD price range)

[Han Lin]

> http://www.dcresource.com/ which is recommended by gphoto.org, is an
> awesome site

or http://www.dpreview.com :-) it's a great website for digital photography.

regards,
Han Lin



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Re: digital camera (100 - 200 USD price range)

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On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:32:47 -0500, David Mandelberg wrote:

> My sister is looking to get a digital camera, and I'm trying to find one
> that is compatible with ubuntu or another easy to use debian derivative
> (or debian itself if sarge/etch is user friendly enough).
> 
> Any suggestions appreciated.
>
http://gphoto.org/

my Canon Powershot A75 works great w/Debian, Ubuntu, Mandrake,
Knoppix, Wind^H^H^H^H using gtkam as a gui frontend for direct connect, or
by plugging the compactflash card into a usb card reader (a Sandisk in my
case). It was highly recommended on a couple of review sites, and cost ~
$220 at CompUSA w/ an extra compactflash card as a bonus- two days later,
I saw it at Walmart for $175 , so I coulda gotten camera and much
heftier memory card for less...

http://www.dcresource.com/ which is recommended by gphoto.org, is an
awesome site



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Re: digital camera question

[Brad Sims]

On Thursday 15 April 2004 6:18 pm, Mike Chandler wrote:
> I wonder if I have to add stuff to fstab,-- I can access the camera as 'root' 
> now, but not as a user.

That screams permissions problem check the ownership of the devices and 
act accordingly 
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Re: digital camera question

[Wayne Topa]

Mike Chandler([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> On Thursday 15 April 2004 08:33 am, steef wrote:
> > H. S. wrote:
> > > Apparently, _Mike Chandler_, on 04/15/04 10:09,typed:
[-Big Snip-] 
> Thanks for that, I tried to apt-get usbmgr, but it wanted to uninstall 
> hotplug.
> I'm not sure thats what I want to do, do I?
> Here's what I have: 
> gphoto2
> libgphoto2
> gtkam
> digikam
> 
> Now, using digikam I can access the camera as root, but that's it.
> gtkam won't access it at all.
> Weird.


I did this a few months back so can't remember (Old Age) where I read
it.  You have to edit /etc/hotplug/usb/usbcam to get users priviliges.

Change USER=root to the user you want to run as.

:-) HTH, YMMV, HAND :-)

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Re: digital camera question

[steef]

Mike Chandler wrote:

On Thursday 15 April 2004 08:33 am, steef wrote:
 

H. S. wrote:
   

Apparently, _Mike Chandler_, on 04/15/04 10:09,typed:
 

Now, using Debian testing, with kernel 2.4.25-1-386, have installed
gphoto, (and the front end gtkam).
So I run gtkam and it will detect my camera, however there is an error:
Could not initialize camera.

If I try and use kde control center >peripherals >digital camera:

Unable to initialize camera. Check your port settings and camera
connectivity and try again.
My USB printer/scanner and USB mouse work fine.
I have searched, and searched, and the best I can come up with is USB
permissions, or needing SCSI emulation.
I know this can work, because it works in Mandrake.
Any ideas are appreciated.
Thanks.
   

I am running testing too (2.4.24-1-868), but I have gphoto2, not
gphoto, and I can grab pictures from a Canon A300 quite easily:
$> dpkg -l gphoto2 gtkam
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err:
uppercase=bad)

||/ Name   Version Description

+++-=-=-=
=
ii  gphoto2   2.1.4-2   The gphoto2 digital camera command-line client
ii  gtk   0.1.2-2   GTK+ application for digital still cameras
So I guess you should try installing gphoto2 and try again. Should work.

GL,
->HS
 

try usbmgr and usbview (debian) a try and the gphoto2 lib's

maybe it works it did with me.

you never know you never can tell...

g.l.

steef
   

Thanks for that, I tried to apt-get usbmgr, but it wanted to uninstall 
hotplug.
I'm not sure thats what I want to do, do I?
Here's what I have: 
gphoto2
libgphoto2
gtkam
digikam

Now, using digikam I can access the camera as root, but that's it.
gtkam won't access it at all.
Weird.
 

yep. that is exactly why i do not work with gtkam. i do not know 'why' 
but gtkam does not recognize my canon eos 300D. it talks: 'no camera'.

funny that usbmgr tries to uninstall hotplug.  after receipt of this 
message i did <$ cat /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug. my machine talked than:  
/sbin/hotplug
so hotplug  plus usbmgr seem to be both on my machine (sarge) without 
biting each other.

being of the adventurous type i should just let usbmgr let uninstall 
hotplug and see what happens. seeing with   as  $ and using 
usbmgr as # . 

i gonna install digikam. gonna see what is does. if it does something at 
all: i 'll let you know.

by the way: in my constellation i can too only as root download pictures 
from my wife's  eos 300D.

cheers,

steef

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Re: digital camera question

[steef]

Mike Chandler wrote:

On Thursday 15 April 2004 04:20 pm, Christophe Barbe wrote:
 

Le jeu 15/04/2004 à 19:10, Mike Chandler a écrit :
   

Thanks Christophe!
Where exactly can I find the README.Debian file?
Please.
 

/usr/share/doc/libgphoto2-2/README.Debian

Christophe
   

Man, thanks a lot!
That README file had in it what I needed:
Currently on a Debian system, the best way to allow normal users to use
gphoto2 is to add these users to the usb group and set the correct
permission in your /etc/fstab file with the following line:
none  /proc/bus/usb  usbdevfs devuid=0,devgid=102,devmode=0660 0 0

where 102 is the ID for example the usb group ID.
Then add your trusted users in this group:
	adduser user usb

 

thanks mike and christophe. i'll do that too.

steef

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Re: digital camera question

[Mike Chandler]

On Thursday 15 April 2004 04:20 pm, Christophe Barbe wrote:
> Le jeu 15/04/2004 à 19:10, Mike Chandler a écrit :
> > Thanks Christophe!
> > Where exactly can I find the README.Debian file?
> > Please.
>
> /usr/share/doc/libgphoto2-2/README.Debian
>
> Christophe

Man, thanks a lot!
That README file had in it what I needed:

Currently on a Debian system, the best way to allow normal users to use
gphoto2 is to add these users to the usb group and set the correct
permission in your /etc/fstab file with the following line:

none  /proc/bus/usb  usbdevfs devuid=0,devgid=102,devmode=0660 0 0

where 102 is the ID for example the usb group ID.
Then add your trusted users in this group:

adduser user usb

Re: digital camera question

[Mike Chandler]

On Thursday 15 April 2004 03:22 pm, Brad Sims wrote:
> On Thursday 15 April 2004 9:09 am, Mike Chandler wrote:
> > Unable to initialize camera. Check your port settings and camera
> > connectivity and try again.
>
> First give this a read...
> 
> Steps two and three sound like what you are looking for...
>
> Or you can do what I did (I have multiple cameras, one shows as a
> USB hd), I just got a six-in-one usb card reader, made a mountpoint
> named /flash (symlinked to /dev/sdc1)  and just mount it when needed.
> This to me is a lot more flexable than just gtkam/gphoto2.
>
> Mine is a Sandisk ImageMate 6 in 1 reader and I just needed to add
> the usbstorage module, and added the following to my /etc/fstab:
>
> # 6 in 1 Removable USB Card Reader
> # The sd_1 entries match up to the types of media read
> #
> #/dev/sda1   /fixme  vfat ro,noauto,user 0   0
> #/dev/sdb1   /fixme  vfat ro,noauto,user 0   0
> #
> # This one I know is for SmartMedia.
> # I removed the ro so that I could delete the files using
> # disk management tools like Konq, MC or good old rm
> #
> /dev/sdc1   /flash  vfat noauto,user 0   0
> #/dev/sdd1   /fixme  vfat ro,noauto,user 0   0
>
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> -- Chinese proveb

Thanks Brad,
I wonder if I have to add stuff to fstab,-- I can access the camera as 'root' 
now, but not as a user.
If I try as user:
An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'): Could 
not claim interface 0 (Operation not permitted). Make sure no other program 
or kernel module (e.g. dc2xx or stv680) is using the device and you have 
read/write access to the device.

What device?
Thanks...



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Re: digital camera question

[Christophe Barbe]

Le jeu 15/04/2004 à 19:10, Mike Chandler a écrit :
> Thanks Christophe!
> Where exactly can I find the README.Debian file?
> Please.

/usr/share/doc/libgphoto2-2/README.Debian

Christophe

Re: digital camera question

[Mike Chandler]

On Thursday 15 April 2004 01:14 pm, christophe barbe wrote:
> Looks like a permission problem.
> Install gphoto2
>apt-get install gphoto2
> then try as root
>gphoto2 --autodetect -L
> If you get a list of pictures in the cam, try the same as a normal user.
> If it works as root and not as a normal user, read the README.Debian
> file.
>
> Christophe
>
Thanks Christophe!
Where exactly can I find the README.Debian file?
Please.

> On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 07:09:33AM -0700, Mike Chandler wrote:
> > Now, using Debian testing, with kernel 2.4.25-1-386, have installed
> > gphoto, (and the front end gtkam).
> > So I run gtkam and it will detect my camera, however there is an error:
> >
> > Could not initialize camera.
> >
> > If I try and use kde control center >peripherals >digital camera:
> >
> > Unable to initialize camera. Check your port settings and camera
> > connectivity and try again.
> >
> > My USB printer/scanner and USB mouse work fine.
> > I have searched, and searched, and the best I can come up with is USB
> > permissions, or needing SCSI emulation.
> >
> > I know this can work, because it works in Mandrake.
> > Any ideas are appreciated.
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
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Re: digital camera question

[Mike Chandler]

On Thursday 15 April 2004 08:33 am, steef wrote:
> H. S. wrote:
> > Apparently, _Mike Chandler_, on 04/15/04 10:09,typed:
> >> Now, using Debian testing, with kernel 2.4.25-1-386, have installed
> >> gphoto, (and the front end gtkam).
> >> So I run gtkam and it will detect my camera, however there is an error:
> >>
> >> Could not initialize camera.
> >>
> >> If I try and use kde control center >peripherals >digital camera:
> >>
> >> Unable to initialize camera. Check your port settings and camera
> >> connectivity and try again.
> >>
> >> My USB printer/scanner and USB mouse work fine.
> >> I have searched, and searched, and the best I can come up with is USB
> >> permissions, or needing SCSI emulation.
> >>
> >> I know this can work, because it works in Mandrake.
> >> Any ideas are appreciated.
> >> Thanks.
> >
> > I am running testing too (2.4.24-1-868), but I have gphoto2, not
> > gphoto, and I can grab pictures from a Canon A300 quite easily:
> > $> dpkg -l gphoto2 gtkam
> > Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
> >
> > | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
> > |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err:
> >
> > uppercase=bad)
> >
> > ||/ Name   Version Description
> >
> > +++-=-=-=
> >=
> >
> > ii  gphoto2   2.1.4-2   The gphoto2 digital camera command-line client
> > ii  gtk   0.1.2-2   GTK+ application for digital still cameras
> >
> >
> > So I guess you should try installing gphoto2 and try again. Should work.
> >
> > GL,
> > ->HS
>
> try usbmgr and usbview (debian) a try and the gphoto2 lib's
>
> maybe it works it did with me.
>
> you never know you never can tell...
>
> g.l.
>
> steef

Thanks for that, I tried to apt-get usbmgr, but it wanted to uninstall 
hotplug.
I'm not sure thats what I want to do, do I?
Here's what I have: 
gphoto2
libgphoto2
gtkam
digikam

Now, using digikam I can access the camera as root, but that's it.
gtkam won't access it at all.
Weird.


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Re: digital camera question

[Brad Sims]

On Thursday 15 April 2004 9:09 am, Mike Chandler wrote:
> Unable to initialize camera. Check your port settings and camera connectivity 
> and try again.

First give this a read...

Steps two and three sound like what you are looking for...

Or you can do what I did (I have multiple cameras, one shows as a
USB hd), I just got a six-in-one usb card reader, made a mountpoint
named /flash (symlinked to /dev/sdc1)  and just mount it when needed. 
This to me is a lot more flexable than just gtkam/gphoto2.

Mine is a Sandisk ImageMate 6 in 1 reader and I just needed to add
the usbstorage module, and added the following to my /etc/fstab:

# 6 in 1 Removable USB Card Reader
# The sd_1 entries match up to the types of media read
#
#/dev/sda1   /fixme  vfat ro,noauto,user 0   0
#/dev/sdb1   /fixme  vfat ro,noauto,user 0   0
#
# This one I know is for SmartMedia.
# I removed the ro so that I could delete the files using 
# disk management tools like Konq, MC or good old rm
#
/dev/sdc1   /flash  vfat noauto,user 0   0
#/dev/sdd1   /fixme  vfat ro,noauto,user 0   0

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Re: digital camera question

[christophe barbe]

Looks like a permission problem. 
Install gphoto2
   apt-get install gphoto2
then try as root 
   gphoto2 --autodetect -L
If you get a list of pictures in the cam, try the same as a normal user.
If it works as root and not as a normal user, read the README.Debian
file.

Christophe

On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 07:09:33AM -0700, Mike Chandler wrote:
> Now, using Debian testing, with kernel 2.4.25-1-386, have installed gphoto, 
> (and the front end gtkam).
> So I run gtkam and it will detect my camera, however there is an error:
> 
> Could not initialize camera.
> 
> If I try and use kde control center >peripherals >digital camera:
> 
> Unable to initialize camera. Check your port settings and camera connectivity 
> and try again.
> 
> My USB printer/scanner and USB mouse work fine.
> I have searched, and searched, and the best I can come up with is USB 
> permissions, or needing SCSI emulation.
> 
> I know this can work, because it works in Mandrake.
> Any ideas are appreciated.
> Thanks.
> 
> 
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Re: digital camera question

[s. keeling]

Incoming from GodMode:
> hey guys
> i added deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.2/Debian/ stable main

Are you sure it exists in stable?  Maybe you need backports?

> did an apt-get update
> and apt-get upgrade ( which upgraded a few kde packages)
> but now i'm trying a
> apt-get install kde3
> apt-get install kde3.2
> apt-get install kde=3

I see a kdelibs3 (and friends) but I've no idea if they're related; I
avoid kde.


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Re: digital camera question

[GodMode]

hey guys
i added deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.2/Debian/ stable main

did an apt-get update
and apt-get upgrade ( which upgraded a few kde packages)
but now i'm trying a
apt-get install kde3
apt-get install kde3.2
apt-get install kde=3


i dont know what command to use to get kde3 using apt-get after putting
those two lines in the /etc/apt/sources.list file


Can someone give me the command.

Thanks
GodMode.


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Re: digital camera question

[steef]

H. S. wrote:

Apparently, _Mike Chandler_, on 04/15/04 10:09,typed:

Now, using Debian testing, with kernel 2.4.25-1-386, have installed 
gphoto, (and the front end gtkam).
So I run gtkam and it will detect my camera, however there is an error:

Could not initialize camera.

If I try and use kde control center >peripherals >digital camera:

Unable to initialize camera. Check your port settings and camera 
connectivity and try again.

My USB printer/scanner and USB mouse work fine.
I have searched, and searched, and the best I can come up with is USB 
permissions, or needing SCSI emulation.

I know this can work, because it works in Mandrake.
Any ideas are appreciated.
Thanks.



I am running testing too (2.4.24-1-868), but I have gphoto2, not 
gphoto, and I can grab pictures from a Canon A300 quite easily:
$> dpkg -l gphoto2 gtkam
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: 
uppercase=bad)
||/ Name   Version Description
+++-=-=-== 

ii  gphoto2   2.1.4-2   The gphoto2 digital camera command-line client
ii  gtk   0.1.2-2   GTK+ application for digital still cameras
So I guess you should try installing gphoto2 and try again. Should work.

GL,
->HS
try usbmgr and usbview (debian) a try and the gphoto2 lib's

maybe it works it did with me.

you never know you never can tell...

g.l.

steef

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Re: digital camera question

[H. S.]

Apparently, _Mike Chandler_, on 04/15/04 10:09,typed:
Now, using Debian testing, with kernel 2.4.25-1-386, have installed gphoto, 
(and the front end gtkam).
So I run gtkam and it will detect my camera, however there is an error:

Could not initialize camera.

If I try and use kde control center >peripherals >digital camera:

Unable to initialize camera. Check your port settings and camera connectivity 
and try again.

My USB printer/scanner and USB mouse work fine.
I have searched, and searched, and the best I can come up with is USB 
permissions, or needing SCSI emulation.

I know this can work, because it works in Mandrake.
Any ideas are appreciated.
Thanks.



I am running testing too (2.4.24-1-868), but I have gphoto2, not gphoto, 
and I can grab pictures from a Canon A300 quite easily:
$> dpkg -l gphoto2 gtkam
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: 
uppercase=bad)
||/ Name   Version Description
+++-=-=-==
ii  gphoto2   2.1.4-2   The gphoto2 digital camera command-line client
ii  gtk   0.1.2-2   GTK+ application for digital still cameras

So I guess you should try installing gphoto2 and try again. Should work.

GL,
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Re: Digital camera corrupted images

[Alexis Huxley]

> I have debian unstable up-to-date and a kodak dx3500
> I download images and they get corrupted, while I see them fine on the 
> camera.
> moreover, I had an onld memory card with pictures (I previously 
> downloaded) and when downloading them now
> they are corrupt (images haf gray, bad colors).

Youi *HAVE* to provide more information if you want other people's
help.

What version of Debian? Which software are you using to transfer
the pictures out of the camera? What software are you using to
view the pictures? Ideally cut and paste some of the command
session you did so we can see first hand what happened. Maybe
even put one of these corrupt pics somewhere on the web; maybe
the corruptness itself will make the problem readily identifiable.

> please cc me since I'm not currently on the list

Sheesh! If you want help, then make an effort to make it as easy
as possible for people to help you, or they won't bother.

Alexis


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Re: digital camera recommendation?

[Arthur H. Johnson II]

I would recomend something with a Sandisk or Compact Flash.  I had a
camera and all I had to buy for Linux support was a 25 dollar dongle that
plugged into the USB.  The carts that went into the Camera acted like a
scsi hdd once I modprobed usb-storage.

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On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Patrick M wrote:

> Means you cant take pictures of moving objects.
> Spec sheets indicate 1/8 to 1/1218 seconds of shutter speed.
> http://www.kodak.com/global/plugins/acrobat/en/digital/easyShare/dx3500Spec_en.pdf
>
> I'm no camera expert, but having tried it, i can tell you this delay
> range is too long. Then again, 320 $CA (200 $US ?) is a very good
> price. Depends on your needs / budget.
>
> PM, 22
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 01:54:51PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 21:53, Patrick M. wrote:
> > > If you're interested in a cheaper model, the Kodak dx-3500 ($CA 325)
> > > is a good choice. Kodak quality. Jphoto supports it.
> > >
> > > But you get what you pay for: no optimcal zoom (3x digital), no action
> > > shot.
> >
> > What's "action shot"?
> >
> > > It's still a good buy IMHO.
> > [snip]
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