Re: Etch display problem

2007-02-03 Thread Default User
s. keeling wrote:

Default User [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  

 I just installed Etch Testing using the Netinst CD.  Upon bootup, the
 GDM dialog box appears, X starts with a rapidly vibrating image, as
 though trying to focus between two presentations of the same image,
 about an inch apart.  Since I have seen this behavior previously in
 Linux From Scratch on the same machine, I knew the quick fix is to do
 (Alt) + (Ctrl) + (-) .  That seems to change (for the moment) the
 resolution/refresh rate (but with a HUGE GDM login dialog box).  Then I
 log in, the image is clear, with no vibration at (my) default 1024 x
 768, 60 Hz.  FWIW, the machine is a semi-off brand '586, with ATI
 graphics built into the main system board, and an off-brand S VGA monitor.



As root:

   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

Select the resolution(s) you want, perhaps fiddle with bits per pixel
(bpp) values, try again.


  


Running

dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

as root (apparently) solved the problem.  What I had to do was replace
the autoselected ATI video driver with the VESA driver.  I also chose
yes to frame buffering.  Changing the resolution did not seen to solve
the problem. 

Note:  In the GNOME desktop, when choosing the Screen Resolution menu
option, the resolutions available are

1024x768
800x600
640x480

I have chose 1024x768 as the default resolution.  Fine.  But the only
menu option available for any resolution is

85 Hz

which works, but I don't like driving the video hardware that hard.  I
prefer running at 72 Hz or even 60 Hz.  I would like to know how to
reset the refresh rate. 

Anyway, thanks to all who responded to my query. 



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Re: Etch display problem

2007-02-03 Thread del
On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 12:54:24 -0600
Default User [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 s. keeling wrote:
 
 Default User [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
 
  I just installed Etch Testing using the Netinst CD.  Upon bootup,

[SNIP}

 Note:  In the GNOME desktop, when choosing the Screen Resolution menu
 option, the resolutions available are
 
 1024x768
 800x600
 640x480
 
 I have chose 1024x768 as the default resolution.  Fine.  But the only
 menu option available for any resolution is
 
 85 Hz
 
 which works, but I don't like driving the video hardware that hard.  I
 prefer running at 72 Hz or even 60 Hz.  I would like to know how to
 reset the refresh rate. 

Hi there,

If the hardware is designed to operate at that refresh rate
then why not?

From my own experience, running my monitor at 60Hz is impossible,
making me feel physically sick.

Years ago, this effect prevented me getting anywhere with early attempts
to install RedHat because I couldn't actually read on-screen for long
enough to read what to do to fix the problem.

So, for my eye comfort, I usually run at the fastest refresh rate the
card and monitor combination allows, finding from experience that
nothing starts at all if anything is set too high, or you will know by
the fuzzy noisy screen.

So, having confirmed the specification of the monitor and card, see
if it is better for you at a higher rate, working up from 60Hz in small
increments. Perhaps this may save you eye problems in later life.

And if by any chance my information may have possible ill effects for
hardware or humans, someone will correct me.

HTH

del

 
 Anyway, thanks to all who responded to my query. 
 
 
 
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Re: Etch display problem

2007-01-26 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Kent West wrote:

Default User wrote:

I just installed Etch Testing using the Netinst CD.  Upon bootup, the
GDM dialog box appears, X starts with a rapidly vibrating image
  

snip

Obviously, this is annoying, but here's what I really worry about:  the
computer is running while I'm away (maybe all day), and an all too
frequent temporary electrical power outage occurs.  When the power comes
back on, the computer dutifully reboots, stalling at the GDM log in
point.  It then spends hours frying the monitor and/or graphics card . .
.  or worse.  Much worse.

Is there a solution?
  


I don't know the real solution (other than tinkering with
/etc/X11/xorg.conf until the real problem is fixed), but a work-around
is simply to de-activate the automatic startup of X. Uninstall [xwgk]dm.
Then just run startx when you want to start X.



or just change /etc/init.d/gdm by putting an 'exit 0' at the beginning 
and take it out when you are there to play with it.



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Re: Etch display problem

2007-01-26 Thread Jasper
Op do, 25-01-2007 te 20:50 -0600, schreef Default User:
 I just installed Etch Testing using the Netinst CD.  Upon bootup, the
 GDM dialog box appears, X starts with a rapidly vibrating image, as
 though trying to focus between two presentations of the same image,
 about an inch apart.  Since I have seen this behavior previously in
 Linux From Scratch on the same machine, I knew the quick fix is to do
 (Alt) + (Ctrl) + (-) .  That seems to change (for the moment) the
 resolution/refresh rate (but with a HUGE GDM login dialog box).  Then I
 log in, the image is clear, with no vibration at (my) default 1024 x
 768, 60 Hz.  FWIW, the machine is a semi-off brand '586, with ATI
 graphics built into the main system board, and an off-brand S VGA monitor.
 
 Obviously, this is annoying, but here's what I really worry about:  the
 computer is running while I'm away (maybe all day), and an all too
 frequent temporary electrical power outage occurs.  When the power comes
 back on, the computer dutifully reboots, stalling at the GDM log in
 point.  It then spends hours frying the monitor and/or graphics card . .
 .  or worse.  Much worse.
 
 Is there a solution?  I'd hate to go back to using another distribution,
 if I don't have to.
 
 
Could it be that the monitor is 'non-ddc' ?
( ddc stands for 'Display Data Channel', a way for monitors to give
information about their capabilities. )
Then take a look here:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/12/msg02289.html
// Jasper.


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Re: Etch display problem

2007-01-25 Thread Kent West
Default User wrote:
 I just installed Etch Testing using the Netinst CD.  Upon bootup, the
 GDM dialog box appears, X starts with a rapidly vibrating image
   
snip
 Obviously, this is annoying, but here's what I really worry about:  the
 computer is running while I'm away (maybe all day), and an all too
 frequent temporary electrical power outage occurs.  When the power comes
 back on, the computer dutifully reboots, stalling at the GDM log in
 point.  It then spends hours frying the monitor and/or graphics card . .
 .  or worse.  Much worse.

 Is there a solution?
   

I don't know the real solution (other than tinkering with
/etc/X11/xorg.conf until the real problem is fixed), but a work-around
is simply to de-activate the automatic startup of X. Uninstall [xwgk]dm.
Then just run startx when you want to start X.

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Re: Etch display problem

2007-01-25 Thread s. keeling
Default User [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I just installed Etch Testing using the Netinst CD.  Upon bootup, the
  GDM dialog box appears, X starts with a rapidly vibrating image, as
  though trying to focus between two presentations of the same image,
  about an inch apart.  Since I have seen this behavior previously in
  Linux From Scratch on the same machine, I knew the quick fix is to do
  (Alt) + (Ctrl) + (-) .  That seems to change (for the moment) the
  resolution/refresh rate (but with a HUGE GDM login dialog box).  Then I
  log in, the image is clear, with no vibration at (my) default 1024 x
  768, 60 Hz.  FWIW, the machine is a semi-off brand '586, with ATI
  graphics built into the main system board, and an off-brand S VGA monitor.

As root:

   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

Select the resolution(s) you want, perhaps fiddle with bits per pixel
(bpp) values, try again.


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