Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:47:35 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [... snip ...] No, one external window for mail content. Most mail I filter according to subject and sender (a lot of mail lists and spam which get deleted, I read about 30 out of about 500 mails a day). Oh, ok. Doesn't, though, *every* GUI MUA have that feature? no. I use sylpheed-claws-gtk2 (the gtk2 version of sylpheed claws). It enables me to set the message window to floating mode (it opens one window only for reading messages upon request detached from the mail directory/mailbox window). In that mode I can press next in the message window and it moves to the next message in the mailbox. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGAqUXS9HxQb37XmcRAnZhAJ464jyrHYeqKCgZY3nL/1X2lw0PRwCggtzq ig/BRtGvuQSngHlP6fosxN0= =gJUz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:30:47 -0400 Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:35:39 +0200 Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Why not? other MUAs do it just fine (sylpheed for example). I have a 14 screen so for proper use of screen real estate I open the messages in a new window, I then want to be able to just press next to go through all the messages in the thread without having to close and open windows each time. I use Sylpheed and I can't figure out how to do that; I really wish I could. Pointer? I see no 'Next' button or menu option anywhere in the new window Sylpheed opens. Are you using old Sylpheed or Claws? I use sylpheed-claws-gtk2 (I need gtk2 for hebrew support). The button just appears there and pressing 'n' also works. I set the messages window to floating mode for it to open in a separate window. To change the tool bar you can go to configuration-preferences and then down to customize toolbars-Message Window Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 13:14:26 +0200 Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:30:47 -0400 Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:35:39 +0200 Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Why not? other MUAs do it just fine (sylpheed for example). I have a 14 screen so for proper use of screen real estate I open the messages in a new window, I then want to be able to just press next to go through all the messages in the thread without having to close and open windows each time. I use Sylpheed and I can't figure out how to do that; I really wish I could. Pointer? I see no 'Next' button or menu option anywhere in the new window Sylpheed opens. Are you using old Sylpheed or Claws? I use sylpheed-claws-gtk2 (I need gtk2 for hebrew support). The button just appears there and pressing 'n' also works. I set the messages window to floating mode for it to open in a separate window. To change the tool bar you can go to configuration-preferences and then down to customize toolbars-Message Window Thanks; I'm going to try out claws. Sjoerd has pointed out that I can do something similar even in regular Sylpheed, though. Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:04:05 + Brad Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:32:05 -0400 Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Celejar, Thanks. Perhaps I'm just slow today, but neither under 'Conf/Common Prefs' nor under 'Conf/Prefs for current account' can I find 'Customize Toolbars/Msg window'. Another hint? I'm using regular Sylpheed, not Claws. Sorry. I use Claws, and have done for many a year and can no longer remember what the differences are. In Claws, it's Preferences... and I would have thought that it would be Common Prefs in Sylpheed. time passes I dl'd Sylpheed and compiled it to see what was what. It seems that, sadly, you can't do what you want in Sylpheed. In regular Sylpheed you can, however, have a separate message window: View Separate message view Adjust the message window to any size you want, and use n or p to move to the next or previous message, or hit Delete to remove the message and move to the next one. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:04:05 + Brad Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:32:05 -0400 Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Celejar, Thanks. Perhaps I'm just slow today, but neither under 'Conf/Common Prefs' nor under 'Conf/Prefs for current account' can I find 'Customize Toolbars/Msg window'. Another hint? I'm using regular Sylpheed, not Claws. Sorry. I use Claws, and have done for many a year and can no longer remember what the differences are. In Claws, it's Preferences... and I would have thought that it would be Common Prefs in Sylpheed. time passes I dl'd Sylpheed and compiled it to see what was what. It seems that, sadly, you can't do what you want in Sylpheed. I guess it's finally time to make the jump. I'd been wondering what exactly I was missing by staying with plain Sylpheed. Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:45:56 +0100 Sjoerd Hiemstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:04:05 + Brad Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:32:05 -0400 Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Celejar, Thanks. Perhaps I'm just slow today, but neither under 'Conf/Common Prefs' nor under 'Conf/Prefs for current account' can I find 'Customize Toolbars/Msg window'. Another hint? I'm using regular Sylpheed, not Claws. Sorry. I use Claws, and have done for many a year and can no longer remember what the differences are. In Claws, it's Preferences... and I would have thought that it would be Common Prefs in Sylpheed. time passes I dl'd Sylpheed and compiled it to see what was what. It seems that, sadly, you can't do what you want in Sylpheed. In regular Sylpheed you can, however, have a separate message window: View Separate message view Adjust the message window to any size you want, and use n or p to move to the next or previous message, or hit Delete to remove the message and move to the next one. Thanks! This is quite helpful. Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:33:22 -0400 Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Celejar, I guess it's finally time to make the jump. I'd been wondering what exactly I was missing by staying with plain Sylpheed. You won't regret it, I'm sure. Claws-Mail (as it's now called) ceased being the bleeding edge branch of Sylpheed some time ago. There's nothing at all wrong with Sylpheed; I just much, much prefer Claws. If memory serves, on first start up, Claws will ask if you want to import all your old Sylpheed settings, filters accounts, etc. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Your father was a megalomaniac, you've got an insane brother Pure Mania - The Vibrators signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:42:39 + Brad Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:33:22 -0400 Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Celejar, I guess it's finally time to make the jump. I'd been wondering what exactly I was missing by staying with plain Sylpheed. You won't regret it, I'm sure. Claws-Mail (as it's now called) ceased being the bleeding edge branch of Sylpheed some time ago. There's nothing at all wrong with Sylpheed; I just much, much prefer Claws. If memory serves, on first start up, Claws will ask if you want to import all your old Sylpheed settings, filters accounts, etc. Thanks; I'm going to check it out (although Sjoerd's suggestion was also quite helpful). Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/23/07 14:47, Celejar wrote: On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:45:56 +0100 Sjoerd Hiemstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:04:05 + Brad Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:32:05 -0400 Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Celejar, Thanks. Perhaps I'm just slow today, but neither under 'Conf/Common Prefs' nor under 'Conf/Prefs for current account' can I find 'Customize Toolbars/Msg window'. Another hint? I'm using regular Sylpheed, not Claws. Sorry. I use Claws, and have done for many a year and can no longer remember what the differences are. In Claws, it's Preferences... and I would have thought that it would be Common Prefs in Sylpheed. time passes I dl'd Sylpheed and compiled it to see what was what. It seems that, sadly, you can't do what you want in Sylpheed. In regular Sylpheed you can, however, have a separate message window: View Separate message view Adjust the message window to any size you want, and use n or p to move to the next or previous message, or hit Delete to remove the message and move to the next one. Thanks! This is quite helpful. There's my problem: I thought everyone (who uses Sylph) knew about that. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGBFCCS9HxQb37XmcRAiG9AKDTBBbO+zrpGkE0O2zkVPDQSe64HwCfXUDO PMJKNAcFCGleR2bBqbc4f8M= =jWaz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:58:50 -0400 Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Celejar, Thanks; I'm going to check it out (although Sjoerd's suggestion was also quite helpful). Yes, so I read. Just so you know; The Claws binary is called claws-mail now, so won't overwrite your sylpheed installation. Although it should import your settings from Sylpheed (if you want it to) it won't overwrite them. Claws stores user settings in ~/.claws-mail whereas Sylpheed uses ~./sylpheed-2.0 Occasionally, people claim to have lost their Sylpheed settings in the process of transferring to Claws. To avoid this problem, I suggest a backup of ~/.sylpheed-2.0 to somewhere safe first. Apologies if I'm teaching grandma to suck eggs, as we say over here. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent You only see me for the clothes that I wear Public Image - Public Image Ltd signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:35:39 +0200 Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Why not? other MUAs do it just fine (sylpheed for example). I have a 14 screen so for proper use of screen real estate I open the messages in a new window, I then want to be able to just press next to go through all the messages in the thread without having to close and open windows each time. I use Sylpheed and I can't figure out how to do that; I really wish I could. Pointer? I see no 'Next' button or menu option anywhere in the new window Sylpheed opens. Are you using old Sylpheed or Claws? Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
on Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 08:36:41PM -0400 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: Yeah, but it lacks a decent text editor. * ducks * Old, old... but still funny... Ciao, Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:30:47 -0400 Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Celejar, I use Sylpheed and I can't figure out how to do that; I really wish I could. Pointer? I see no 'Next' button or menu option anywhere in the new window Sylpheed opens. Are you using old Sylpheed or Claws? Go to Configuration/Preferences... then Customise Toolbars/Message Window. Here you can add any buttons you wish. Select the action you want, the icon you desire and the text to be added, and then add the lost to the Toolbar. Any keyboard shortcut you have set will also be assigned. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent You're only 29 got a lot to learn Seventeen - Sex Pistols signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:23:14 + Brad Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:30:47 -0400 Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Celejar, I use Sylpheed and I can't figure out how to do that; I really wish I could. Pointer? I see no 'Next' button or menu option anywhere in the new window Sylpheed opens. Are you using old Sylpheed or Claws? Go to Configuration/Preferences... then Customise Toolbars/Message Window. Here you can add any buttons you wish. Select the action you want, the icon you desire and the text to be added, and then add the lost to the Toolbar. Any keyboard shortcut you have set will also be assigned. Thanks. Perhaps I'm just slow today, but neither under 'Conf/Common Prefs' nor under 'Conf/Prefs for current account' can I find 'Customize Toolbars/Msg window'. Another hint? I'm using regular Sylpheed, not Claws. Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:32:05 -0400 Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Celejar, Thanks. Perhaps I'm just slow today, but neither under 'Conf/Common Prefs' nor under 'Conf/Prefs for current account' can I find 'Customize Toolbars/Msg window'. Another hint? I'm using regular Sylpheed, not Claws. Sorry. I use Claws, and have done for many a year and can no longer remember what the differences are. In Claws, it's Preferences... and I would have thought that it would be Common Prefs in Sylpheed. time passes I dl'd Sylpheed and compiled it to see what was what. It seems that, sadly, you can't do what you want in Sylpheed. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent You're only 29 got a lot to learn Seventeen - Sex Pistols signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 06:30:32 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/20/07 09:02, Micha Feigin wrote: On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:03:18 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? An IMAP server gives you total MUA independence. And an overhead of another server program running in the courier-imap with 4 threads uses 14MB RAM. and my laptop has 256 MB, it comes up with about 30MB used (I worked very hard on that), and I use whatever is left to the brink background on an already over stressed computer. Add more RAM? It's pretty cheap. Actually, laptop ram is rather expensive plus it's a 4 year old laptop so actually finding compatible ram is almost impossible and not worth the investment. I have another 2GB machine and I use the memory to the fullest (and beyond) on that one also. Also, I don't think that a crippled MUA is a proper excuse to have another server running on my machine just to overcome it's limitations when there are non-crippled ones around. [snip] Plus, kmail doesn't know how to move to the next message when opening then in a different window which is really annoying If that means what I think it means, then I'm not surprised. Why not? other MUAs do it just fine (sylpheed for example). I have a 14 screen so for proper use of screen real estate I open the messages in a new window, I then want to be able to just press next to go through all the messages in the thread without having to close and open windows each time. It also has an issue with jumping to the end of the mailbox (or more annoyingly, marking to the end of the mail box to delete all the remaining messages) In short, the only thing that it had going for it over sylpheed which was the ability to delete a whole thread has been fixed in sylpheed which leaves no reason to use kmail. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGARdYS9HxQb37XmcRAuzkAJ40DMux3Rf4oRGY8bPEhPunUhJClwCfU8uq /T1RCg6hz84o3u8ZMCUcRgA= =/xMP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
Andrew Sackville-West: On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 07:06:31AM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: So in short; Does anyone know of any good calender applications that dock into a system tray? I use orage a little and its okay. Don't know if it works outside xfce though... Yes it does. I don't know how exactly it behaves in Xfce, but I have been running it (without using it much) under IceWM and with a few tweaks in ~/.icewm/winoptions it displayed just fine in the systray. Left-clicking opens the calendar, right-clicking opens the menu for adding appointments etc. J. -- I can tell a Whopper[tm] from a BigMac[tm] and Coke[tm] from Pepsi[tm]. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/22/07 04:35, Micha Feigin wrote: [snip] Why not? other MUAs do it just fine (sylpheed for example). I have a 14 screen so for proper use of screen real estate I open the messages in a new window, I then want to be able to just press next to go through all the messages in the thread without having to close and open windows each time. ??? So if you're reading d-u with 80 new mails, it opens 80 separate windows? It also has an issue with jumping to the end of the mailbox (or more annoyingly, marking to the end of the mail box to delete all the remaining messages) In short, the only thing that it had going for it over sylpheed which was the ability to delete a whole thread has been fixed in sylpheed which leaves no reason to use kmail. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGAoMaS9HxQb37XmcRAigwAJ958C6QZesFW5YIlgN5ipgIzdK1IACfefg1 hZWY6L8hlIy9FSFhQFhGQEA= =fxSP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:22:34 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/22/07 04:35, Micha Feigin wrote: [snip] Why not? other MUAs do it just fine (sylpheed for example). I have a 14 screen so for proper use of screen real estate I open the messages in a new window, I then want to be able to just press next to go through all the messages in the thread without having to close and open windows each time. ??? So if you're reading d-u with 80 new mails, it opens 80 separate windows? No, one external window for mail content. Most mail I filter according to subject and sender (a lot of mail lists and spam which get deleted, I read about 30 out of about 500 mails a day). It also has an issue with jumping to the end of the mailbox (or more annoyingly, marking to the end of the mail box to delete all the remaining messages) In short, the only thing that it had going for it over sylpheed which was the ability to delete a whole thread has been fixed in sylpheed which leaves no reason to use kmail. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGAoMaS9HxQb37XmcRAigwAJ958C6QZesFW5YIlgN5ipgIzdK1IACfefg1 hZWY6L8hlIy9FSFhQFhGQEA= =fxSP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/22/07 10:32, Micha Feigin wrote: On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:22:34 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/22/07 04:35, Micha Feigin wrote: [snip] Why not? other MUAs do it just fine (sylpheed for example). I have a 14 screen so for proper use of screen real estate I open the messages in a new window, I then want to be able to just press next to go through all the messages in the thread without having to close and open windows each time. ??? So if you're reading d-u with 80 new mails, it opens 80 separate windows? No, one external window for mail content. Most mail I filter according to subject and sender (a lot of mail lists and spam which get deleted, I read about 30 out of about 500 mails a day). Oh, ok. Doesn't, though, *every* GUI MUA have that feature? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGAqUXS9HxQb37XmcRAnZhAJ464jyrHYeqKCgZY3nL/1X2lw0PRwCggtzq ig/BRtGvuQSngHlP6fosxN0= =gJUz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:03:18 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/19/07 18:56, Micha Feigin wrote: [snip] I don't like kmail as it takes the microsoft approach and won't play nicely with other programs touching it's mail directories unless you setup a local imap server and access everything over imap (a bad solution IMHO) Why? An IMAP server gives you total MUA independence. And an overhead of another server program running in the background on an already over stressed computer. I stick with programs that are willing to share the same folder format (maildir) without another layer in the middle. Plus, kmail doesn't know how to move to the next message when opening then in a different window which is really annoying -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF/0DmS9HxQb37XmcRAmz6AJ9e/y2rIjBlWp7YYgIF9LhD8Pr/UgCeJV7y 5emIVydogrgLLLa943Wjdxw= =5zpK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
I don't mean to topic steal here, but this is kind of on topic. I'm wondering if anyone knows of any good calender applications for a system tray? I'm running Window Maker and wmsystray, so I can still use gnome-power-manager, nm-applet, and update-notifier (I need these because I'm on a laptop, otherwise I'd be using Ion). wmsystray can hold 4 applications, and I've been trying to find a good dockable calender program in the repositories. So in short; Does anyone know of any good calender applications that dock into a system tray? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/20/07 09:02, Micha Feigin wrote: On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:03:18 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? An IMAP server gives you total MUA independence. And an overhead of another server program running in the courier-imap with 4 threads uses 14MB RAM. background on an already over stressed computer. Add more RAM? It's pretty cheap. [snip] Plus, kmail doesn't know how to move to the next message when opening then in a different window which is really annoying If that means what I think it means, then I'm not surprised. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGARdYS9HxQb37XmcRAuzkAJ40DMux3Rf4oRGY8bPEhPunUhJClwCfU8uq /T1RCg6hz84o3u8ZMCUcRgA= =/xMP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 07:06:31AM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: [...] So in short; Does anyone know of any good calender applications that dock into a system tray? I use orage a little and its okay. Don't know if it works outside xfce though... A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 10:30:08AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 07:06:31AM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: [...] So in short; Does anyone know of any good calender applications that dock into a system tray? I use orage a little and its okay. Don't know if it works outside xfce though... Nope, it's Xfce only. It's a panel application, not a docked application. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 01:46 -0400, Celejar wrote: On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 01:12:55 -0400 Matthew K Poer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Well, clearly from my email address, I do use Gmail. I like evolution Not so clear; look at my email address, but I almost never use the Gmail interface. Gmail offers SMTP / POP3 access. Same here, I was just referring to the free serrvice. better than any web mail though, even gmail. For whatever reason, I just like desktop apps better than web apps. I think the javascripts needed to make a web app functional just turn me off. There are many reasons: they can be slow, they can't be used offline, they can't be customized to the extent that one's own apps can be, and one doesn't have the range of choice one has on the desktop. Exactly. Celejar -- ssuds.sourceforge.net - Home of Ssuds and Ssudg, a Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- Matthew K Poer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:55:38 -0400 Matthew K Poer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 01:46 -0400, Celejar wrote: On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 01:12:55 -0400 Matthew K Poer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Well, clearly from my email address, I do use Gmail. I like evolution Not so clear; look at my email address, but I almost never use the Gmail interface. Gmail offers SMTP / POP3 access. Same here, I was just referring to the free serrvice. Gmail's SMTP and POP3 are free! Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 15:13 -0400, Celejar wrote: On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:55:38 -0400 Matthew K Poer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 01:46 -0400, Celejar wrote: On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 01:12:55 -0400 Matthew K Poer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Well, clearly from my email address, I do use Gmail. I like evolution Not so clear; look at my email address, but I almost never use the Gmail interface. Gmail offers SMTP / POP3 access. Same here, I was just referring to the free serrvice. Gmail's SMTP and POP3 are free! Celejar Rarely do I express myself so poorly. I do use Evolution to access my Gmail. I'm not exactly sure why I used the adjective 'free,' I suppose I was just tired. -- Matthew K Poer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
Matthew K Poer writes: are there others? Emacs. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
You mean GNUS? I love Emacs, but I eventually gave up on Gnus. I just couldn't grok it. I'm on Sylpheed now. Haven't tried Claws. I don't use any calendar. On 3/19/07, John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew K Poer writes: are there others? Emacs. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Software is like sex: it is better when it is free.
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
I think that the kde solution is the most mature at the moment and leaner than evolution although it drags along a whole host of libraries when you fire it up (so does evolution though) I don't like kmail as it takes the microsoft approach and won't play nicely with other programs touching it's mail directories unless you setup a local imap server and access everything over imap (a bad solution IMHO) There are a few leaner ones, mainly text based, but they all seem to be rather limited and nothing that doesn't use gtk or qt seems to work with hebrew. For a mail reader I like sylpheed (should become claws mail soon with a few nice upgrades), not too lite on the memory but rather lean and certainly better than evolution, kmail may have been better if it didn't have the whole library and directory issues. Sylpheed has a plugin to support rss. It also has a plugin for vcalendar but I didn't like the results (no calendar, handles them like mail) On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:25:22 -0400 Matthew K Poer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need an email client. I need a calender/task scheduling program. I know of these combo, PIM applications: IceApe IceDove w/ (Sunbird?) calender extension Evolution Kontact (Kmail/Kalendar/aKregator/K Address Book) Sylpheed w/ iCal plug-in are there others? I am extremely unorganized and need a good quality calender program. I am currently using Evolution in Fluxbox. I would like something a bit leaner, since I am using an old laptop. However I'd wait an extra few seconds if it meant superior functionality. Also, it would be nice to have my RSS feeds in the same program, something Evolution currently does not do. Do the others? So, anyone who feels strongly for or against one of the above PIM applications, I'd love to hear what you have to say. I'll be using the Etch version of whatever I end up with, and will be migrating my current calenders and email from Evolution after I upgrade from Sarge to Etch (if I decide to do so) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:25:22 -0400 Matthew K Poer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need an email client. I need a calender/task scheduling program. I know of these combo, PIM applications: IceApe IceDove w/ (Sunbird?) calender extension Evolution Kontact (Kmail/Kalendar/aKregator/K Address Book) Sylpheed w/ iCal plug-in I am extremely unorganized and need a good quality calender program. I am currently using Evolution in Fluxbox. I would like something a bit leaner, since I am using an old laptop. However I'd wait an extra few seconds if it meant superior functionality. Also, it would be nice to have my RSS feeds in the same program, something Evolution currently does not do. Do the others? So, anyone who feels strongly for or against one of the above PIM applications, I'd love to hear what you have to say. I'll be using the Etch version of whatever I end up with, and will be migrating my current calenders and email from Evolution after I upgrade from Sarge to Etch (if I decide to do so) Personally, for PIM, I use my Palm. Even if you don't have a palm, you could use one of the palm syncers, like gnome-pilot and never sync... Before that, I used Remind or a postgresql/python cobble when my main box was my 486 (now its an Athlon). Before that, I just used a plain text file that I wrote in a consistant format so I could use sort on it. For email, I use mutt. What is the advantage of having a PIM integrated with email? That's what VCs are for. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 20:26 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:25:22 -0400 Personally, for PIM, I use my Palm. Even if you don't have a palm, you could use one of the palm syncers, like gnome-pilot and never sync... Before that, I used Remind or a postgresql/python cobble when my main box was my 486 (now its an Athlon). Before that, I just used a plain text file that I wrote in a consistant format so I could use sort on it. For email, I use mutt. What is the advantage of having a PIM integrated with email? That's what VCs are for. Doug. Well, I'd like a graphical application. I know Mutt exists... but I'd rather something a bit more user-friendly. I'm pretty comfortable with package management with aptitude, but I'd like my mail to be a little prettier. Also, I get Dilbert comics in my email, which I doubt Mutt would display. Same for calender program. I want a GUI. They do not necessarily need to be integrated. It's nice to have an all-in-one program, but if there were separate components, that would be alright with me. As long as I find something somewhat lean, and very functional, I'll be happy. (i'd also not have to install KDE just for Kontact... but if it's just the most functional thing around, I might do it) -- Matthew K Poer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 05:49:44PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Matthew K Poer writes: are there others? Emacs. Yeah, but it lacks a decent text editor. * ducks * Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
Matthew K Poer wrote: Kontact (Kmail/Kalendar/aKregator/K Address Book) I use korganizer, kmail, knode, kontact etc., to read mailing lists, newsgroups. Basically whatever KDE throws at me. I am quite satisfied with it. However not all your friends/colleagues might use KDE or Linux. So if you want to organize/coordinate meetings with these people consider something like calendar.google.com . For address book, personal mail, I like using google's gmail. YMMV raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/19/07 18:56, Micha Feigin wrote: [snip] I don't like kmail as it takes the microsoft approach and won't play nicely with other programs touching it's mail directories unless you setup a local imap server and access everything over imap (a bad solution IMHO) Why? An IMAP server gives you total MUA independence. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF/0DmS9HxQb37XmcRAmz6AJ9e/y2rIjBlWp7YYgIF9LhD8Pr/UgCeJV7y 5emIVydogrgLLLa943Wjdxw= =5zpK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 21:22 -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Matthew K Poer wrote: Kontact (Kmail/Kalendar/aKregator/K Address Book) I use korganizer, kmail, knode, kontact etc., to read mailing lists, newsgroups. Basically whatever KDE throws at me. I am quite satisfied with it. However not all your friends/colleagues might use KDE or Linux. So if you want to organize/coordinate meetings with these people consider something like calendar.google.com . For address book, personal mail, I like using google's gmail. YMMV raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ Well, clearly from my email address, I do use Gmail. I like evolution better than any web mail though, even gmail. For whatever reason, I just like desktop apps better than web apps. I think the javascripts needed to make a web app functional just turn me off. Anyway, I'm playing with Mozilla's Sunbird, from mozilla.com, not the experimental package. It looks promising. Are there advantages/disadvantages from Sunbird to the Lightning extension for SeaMonkey(IceApe)/Thunderbird(IceDove)? -- Matthew K Poer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 01:12:55 -0400 Matthew K Poer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Well, clearly from my email address, I do use Gmail. I like evolution Not so clear; look at my email address, but I almost never use the Gmail interface. Gmail offers SMTP / POP3 access. better than any web mail though, even gmail. For whatever reason, I just like desktop apps better than web apps. I think the javascripts needed to make a web app functional just turn me off. There are many reasons: they can be slow, they can't be used offline, they can't be customized to the extent that one's own apps can be, and one doesn't have the range of choice one has on the desktop. Celejar -- ssuds.sourceforge.net - Home of Ssuds and Ssudg, a Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
