Re: gnome 0.20

1998-08-05 Thread Richard L. Alhama
On Tue, 4 Aug 1998, Mike Nachlinger wrote:

 
 Hi,
 
 Where would I find libgnome0 and libgtkxmhtml0 for gnome 0.20
 Not shown in Contents-i386 and have scrambled up  down the tree.

GNOME 0.20 is on slink.

it's somewhere in
debian/dists/slink/x11 I think 

 tia,
 Mike
 
 

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Re: GNOME 0.20

1998-08-04 Thread Geoffrey L. Brimhall
If you go digging through the v0.20 directions on the gnome website,
you'll  be shown to add the following statement's to your xwindow's
startup file.

Here's how I've modified my /etc/X11/Xsession:

# the following lines are added to startup GNOME:
background-properties --init 
keyboard-properties --init 
mouse-properties --init 
panel 

# the following is at the very end of Xsession - unmodified !
if [ -x $startup ]  grep -q
^allow-user-xsession /etc/X11/config; then
  exec $startup
else
  xterm -ls 
  if [ -e /etc/X11/window-managers ]; then
for i in `sed 's/#.*//' /etc/X11/window-managers`; do
  if [ -x $i ]; then
exec $i
  fi
done
  fi
  exec twm
fi

On 02-Aug-98 Richard L. Alhama wrote:
 On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Steve Lamb wrote:
 
 On Sun, 2 Aug 1998 23:34:06 +0800 (PHT), Richard L. Alhama wrote:
 
 How can I make GNOME 0.20 working?  I installed all the necessary
 packages.  Now what file do I need to edit?  /etc/X11/window-managers or
 my $HOME/.xinitrc?
 
 The apps are working fine (e.g. Eeyes, gnome-help-browser)
 
 Then it is working.  Gnome isn't a window manager or anything of the
 sort.  Consider it more like a library that other things are built upon.  So
 if you want Gnome features you need to get Gnome aware applications, window
 managers, etc.
 
 Yup I know that's window-manager independent.  But what I was trying to
 ask was I can't get the cute taskbar to appear on my desktop.  Is that a
 taskbar?  It's my 1st time running gnome.  
 
 Please excuse me if I asked incorrectly.  I can't write english
 efficiently.
 
 
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Re: GNOME 0.20

1998-08-03 Thread Daniel Mashao
On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Havoc Pennington wrote:

 
 On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Richard L. Alhama wrote:
  How can I make GNOME 0.20 working?  I installed all the necessary
  packages.  Now what file do I need to edit?  /etc/X11/window-managers or
  my $HOME/.xinitrc?
  
  The apps are working fine (e.g. Eeyes, gnome-help-browser)
How did you get gnome to even run? I cannot even install it. 
dpkg -i  gnome-core_0.20-1.deb

fails by saying:

Reading database ... 21987 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking gnome-core (from gnome-core_0.20-1.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing gnome-core_0.20-1.deb (--install):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/share/pixmaps/mailcheck/email.xpm', which is
also in package gnome
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Errors were encountered while processing:
 gnome-core_0.20-1.deb

The interesting thinh is that  do not even have
'/usr/share/pixmaps/mailcheck/email.xpm' file in my system.


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Re: GNOME 0.20

1998-08-03 Thread Richard Alhama
On Mon, 3 Aug 1998, Daniel Mashao wrote:

 On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Havoc Pennington wrote:
 
  
  On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Richard L. Alhama wrote:
   How can I make GNOME 0.20 working?  I installed all the necessary
   packages.  Now what file do I need to edit?  /etc/X11/window-managers or
   my $HOME/.xinitrc?
   
   The apps are working fine (e.g. Eeyes, gnome-help-browser)
 How did you get gnome to even run? I cannot even install it. 
 dpkg -i  gnome-core_0.20-1.deb
 
 fails by saying:
 
 Reading database ... 21987 files and directories currently installed.)
 Unpacking gnome-core (from gnome-core_0.20-1.deb) ...
 dpkg: error processing gnome-core_0.20-1.deb (--install):
  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/pixmaps/mailcheck/email.xpm', which is
 also in package gnome
 dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  gnome-core_0.20-1.deb

I installed libgnome first =8) 

 The interesting thinh is that  do not even have
 '/usr/share/pixmaps/mailcheck/email.xpm' file in my system.
 
 
 

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Re: GNOME 0.20

1998-08-02 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, 2 Aug 1998 23:34:06 +0800 (PHT), Richard L. Alhama wrote:

How can I make GNOME 0.20 working?  I installed all the necessary
packages.  Now what file do I need to edit?  /etc/X11/window-managers or
my $HOME/.xinitrc?

The apps are working fine (e.g. Eeyes, gnome-help-browser)

Then it is working.  Gnome isn't a window manager or anything of the
sort.  Consider it more like a library that other things are built upon.  So
if you want Gnome features you need to get Gnome aware applications, window
managers, etc.


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Re: GNOME 0.20

1998-08-02 Thread Richard L. Alhama
On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Steve Lamb wrote:

 On Sun, 2 Aug 1998 23:34:06 +0800 (PHT), Richard L. Alhama wrote:
 
 How can I make GNOME 0.20 working?  I installed all the necessary
 packages.  Now what file do I need to edit?  /etc/X11/window-managers or
 my $HOME/.xinitrc?
 
 The apps are working fine (e.g. Eeyes, gnome-help-browser)
 
 Then it is working.  Gnome isn't a window manager or anything of the
 sort.  Consider it more like a library that other things are built upon.  So
 if you want Gnome features you need to get Gnome aware applications, window
 managers, etc.

Yup I know that's window-manager independent.  But what I was trying to
ask was I can't get the cute taskbar to appear on my desktop.  Is that a
taskbar?  It's my 1st time running gnome.  

Please excuse me if I asked incorrectly.  I can't write english
efficiently.


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Re: GNOME 0.20

1998-08-02 Thread Havoc Pennington

On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Richard L. Alhama wrote:
 How can I make GNOME 0.20 working?  I installed all the necessary
 packages.  Now what file do I need to edit?  /etc/X11/window-managers or
 my $HOME/.xinitrc?
 
 The apps are working fine (e.g. Eeyes, gnome-help-browser)
 
 Thanks in advance.
 

You can run gnome-session, which will automatically launch some programs.
You can then save your X session with the save-session command; but it
will only work on child processes of gnome-session that are session aware.

Try:
windowmanager 
exec gnome-session

in you .Xsession.

You can also run 'panel' on its own if you want. I don't know if the Gnome
Debian packages have 'gmc'. There is also an intro to Gnome document
that may be installed - try loading the help browser.

There will be a new Gnome release next week, I don't know how long it will
take to get Debian-packaged. It should have a lot of enhancements and
bugfixes.

Havoc


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Re: GNOME 0.20

1998-08-02 Thread Havoc Pennington

On Mon, 3 Aug 1998, Richard L. Alhama wrote:
 
 Yup I know that's window-manager independent.  But what I was trying to
 ask was I can't get the cute taskbar to appear on my desktop.  Is that a
 taskbar?  It's my 1st time running gnome.  
 

It's not a taskbar, but it's everything else! :-) Someday maybe it will be
a taskbar. Right now it is basically a launcher to run programs. You can
use it in either start-menu style (a menu of stuff to launch) or
icon-style (icons you single-click to launch programs). Or both. It also
swallows applications and has applets that do various little things. For
example there's a CPU load applet, and a desktop pager applet if your
window manager supports it, and some fun applets like Wanda the fish and a
sliding tiles game.

The latest version to be released this week has several different modes,
one spans the whole screen, one shrinks to fit the contained applets. You
can have as many panels as you want and you can have panels that fold into
other panels (drawers). You can end up with a panel full of panels that
themselves contain panels etc. until you run out of screen space -
compeletely useless, but pretty fun.

Havoc






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