Re: How can I emulate Debian for PowerPC on Intel processor?

2010-07-31 Thread Christian Simo
Alright!

Thank you for your help!

Cheers

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net
 wrote:

 Christian Simo wrote:

  I currently virtualize with vmware,
  Please how can I  run Debian for PPC on Intel or How can I emulate Intel
 to
  support PPC OS

 and then,

  I got two Unix OS: Debian for PPC and AIX IBM for PPC.

 My computer CPU is a Intel with Host OS Windows XP.

 So, I don't know how to emulate this CPU to run these OS.

  This may be a silly question, but WHY are you trying to do this?  AIX
 only runs on PPC (unless you're running AIX v1 or v2) but Debian certainly
 runs on Intel.  It might be simpler to build a new VM based on Debian for
 Intel - it would certainly perform a lot better than emulating a PPC.

 Now, if you were asking about emulating PPC so you could run AIX under
 VMware, you might start by looking here:

 http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/pa-emulation.html?ca=dgr-lnxw07EmulatePow

 Miles Fidelman

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Re: How can I emulate Debian for PowerPC on Intel processor?

2010-07-30 Thread Dirk Neumann
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:56:32 -0700
Christian Simo csim...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Team!
 
 I currently virtualize with vmware,
 Please how can I  run Debian for PPC on Intel or How can I emulate Intel to
 support PPC OS

A first thought:
qemu (contains qemu-system-ppc).

Dirk.


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Re: How can I emulate Debian for PowerPC on Intel processor?

2010-07-30 Thread Rick Thomas


On Jul 30, 2010, at 6:56 AM, Christian Simo wrote:


Dear Team!

I currently virtualize with vmware,
Please how can I  run Debian for PPC on Intel or How can I emulate  
Intel to support PPC OS


Thanks in advance



The interesting question is what flavor of PowerPC?  There are  
NewWorld Macs, OldWorld Macs, and a few flavors of IBM and embedded  
powerPC, each with their own boot firmware interface.


I've never used qemu, but I'm told it provides an emulated PPC VM.   
But I have no idea of which boot firmware it emulates, if any.
Anybody know?


Rick

PS: I've cross-posted to the debian-powerpc in hopes they might have  
some light to shed...



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Re: How can I emulate Debian for PowerPC on Intel processor?

2010-07-30 Thread Christian Simo
Thank you for your response!

I got two Unix OS: Debian for PPC and AIX IBM for PPC.

My computer CPU is a Intel with Host OS Windows XP.

So, I don't know how to emulate this CPU to run these OS.

I'm new on PPC precesssor.

Thank you in advance!

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Dirk Neumann neu...@yahoo.de wrote:

 On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:56:32 -0700
 Christian Simo csim...@gmail.com wrote:

  Dear Team!
 
  I currently virtualize with vmware,
  Please how can I  run Debian for PPC on Intel or How can I emulate Intel
 to
  support PPC OS

 A first thought:
 qemu (contains qemu-system-ppc).

 Dirk.


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Re: How can I emulate Debian for PowerPC on Intel processor?

2010-07-30 Thread Burton Samograd
Christian Simo csim...@gmail.com writes:

 Thank you for your response!

 I got two Unix OS: Debian for PPC and AIX IBM for PPC.

 My computer CPU is a Intel with Host OS Windows XP.

Since you're running Windows XP, try Qemu Manager:

http://www.davereyn.co.uk/download.htm

It's easy to install and includes a gui to setup virtual machines.
After that you can boot from an iso image for the architecture of your
choice.

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Re: How can I emulate Debian for PowerPC on Intel processor?

2010-07-30 Thread brian m. carlson
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 10:03:55AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
 The interesting question is what flavor of PowerPC?  There are
 NewWorld Macs, OldWorld Macs, and a few flavors of IBM and embedded
 powerPC, each with their own boot firmware interface.
 
 I've never used qemu, but I'm told it provides an emulated PPC VM.
 But I have no idea of which boot firmware it emulates, if any.
 Anybody know?

It actually emulates several different types of PPCs:

  lakeview ok % qemu-system-ppc -M '?'
  Supported machines are:
  mpc8544ds  mpc8544ds
  bamboo bamboo
  ref405ep   ref405ep
  taihu  taihu
  mac99  Mac99 based PowerMAC
  g3beigeHeathrow based PowerMAC (default)
  prep   PowerPC PREP platform

As far as actual firmware, I believe it's Open Firmware, either through
openbios-ppc or openhackware.  A long time ago, I tried to install Mac
OS X 10.1 but was unsuccessful.

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Re: How can I emulate Debian for PowerPC on Intel processor?

2010-07-30 Thread Miles Fidelman

Christian Simo wrote:

 I currently virtualize with vmware,
 Please how can I  run Debian for PPC on Intel or How can I emulate 
Intel to

 support PPC OS

and then,

I got two Unix OS: Debian for PPC and AIX IBM for PPC.

My computer CPU is a Intel with Host OS Windows XP.

So, I don't know how to emulate this CPU to run these OS.

This may be a silly question, but WHY are you trying to do this?  AIX 
only runs on PPC (unless you're running AIX v1 or v2) but Debian 
certainly runs on Intel.  It might be simpler to build a new VM based on 
Debian for Intel - it would certainly perform a lot better than 
emulating a PPC.


Now, if you were asking about emulating PPC so you could run AIX under 
VMware, you might start by looking here:

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/pa-emulation.html?ca=dgr-lnxw07EmulatePow

Miles Fidelman

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