Re: How to remove oowriter delay on opening document?
Kevin Ross wrote: From: Sthu Deus [mailto:sthu.d...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:31 AM In the case of KDE, since no programs are using GTK, OOo would have to load the GTK libraries fresh, which slows things down. ... AFAIK: that 's fairly to the point (since staroffice?). reg., steef -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bd2899a.40...@home.nl
Re: How to remove oowriter delay on opening document?
On 04/22/2010 12:31 PM, Sthu Deus wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Ron: I run Sid. Aha! - I run testing OO - even not whole my system. Note also that OOo depends on Gtk, which might need also to be loaded by KDE, but not by GNOME or XFce. Could You please extend this Your phrase: how I/KDE can load the Gtk? *You* don't. The OS loads libraries for you. -- Dissent is patriotic, remember? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bd22b4e.3060...@cox.net
RE: How to remove oowriter delay on opening document?
From: Sthu Deus [mailto:sthu.d...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:31 AM Thank You for Your time and answer, Ron: I run Sid. Aha! - I run testing OO - even not whole my system. Note also that OOo depends on Gtk, which might need also to be loaded by KDE, but not by GNOME or XFce. Could You please extend this Your phrase: how I/KDE can load the Gtk? I think what he means is, KDE apps don't in general use the GTK libraries, they use Qt. Gnome apps in general use the GTK libraries, not Qt. So in the case of Gnome, as soon as any program loads the GTK libraries, they will usually be shared by all programs that use them. So when you go to launch OOo, the GTK libraries are already loaded and ready to go. In the case of KDE, since no programs are using GTK, OOo would have to load the GTK libraries fresh, which slows things down. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/005b01cae33e$22146580$663d30...@net
Re: How to remove oowriter delay on opening document?
Thank You for Your time and answer, Ron: I run Sid. Aha! - I run testing OO - even not whole my system. Note also that OOo depends on Gtk, which might need also to be loaded by KDE, but not by GNOME or XFce. Could You please extend this Your phrase: how I/KDE can load the Gtk? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bd0880e.0d1abc0a.66c2.0...@mx.google.com
Re: How to remove oowriter delay on opening document?
Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón: Life is hard :-) And I know what makes it harder! ;) If OOo does not offer such feature anymore, you can get preload¹ which is... humm, a preloader daemon ;-) Thank You again. Do I need to wait for some period when it will gather its statistics? OpenOffice saves the user settings under ~/.openoffice.org2 (or a similar path). Just try by renaming the current folder and start OOo (it will recreate an empty and new one) to check if you note any speed improvement. Now have tried - same effect. So I have installed preloader. Wait for any changes... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bcf03d6.02135e0a.4616.4...@mx.google.com
Re: How to remove oowriter delay on opening document?
Thank You for Your time and answer, Ron: For me, that version performs much better than an other than the old 1.x ones. Then, something else You have that I do not (libs?) that prevent me from running the testing repo OO... There was a feature where GNOME or KDE would pre-load OOo at DE startup. That way, it *appears* that OOo loads much faster, even though it was really just shifted. So, do You know how I can activate it in KDE 3.5 ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bcf04a8.1438560a.7f1a.c...@mx.google.com
Re: How to remove oowriter delay on opening document?
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:55:17 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón: Life is hard :-) And I know what makes it harder! ;) If OOo does not offer such feature anymore, you can get preload¹ which is... humm, a preloader daemon ;-) Thank You again. Do I need to wait for some period when it will gather its statistics? Dunno, I've never used it :-? There is a good explanation about the daemon features here: *** Drastically Speed up your Linux System with Preload http://techthrob.com/2009/03/02/drastically-speed-up-your-linux-system-with-preload/ *** It seems you can tweak some values but the defaults should be fine. Also, as per the article, you can take a look into what is currently monitoring by reading /var/lib/preload/preload.state file. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.04.21.14.58...@gmail.com
Re: How to remove oowriter delay on opening document?
On 2010-04-21 08:58, Sthu Deus wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Ron: For me, that version performs much better than an other than the old 1.x ones. Then, something else You have that I do not (libs?) that prevent me from running the testing repo OO... I run Sid. There was a feature where GNOME or KDE would pre-load OOo at DE startup. That way, it *appears* that OOo loads much faster, even though it was really just shifted. So, do You know how I can activate it in KDE 3.5 ? Nope. xfce is my preferred DE. Note also that OOo depends on Gtk, which might need also to be loaded by KDE, but not by GNOME or XFce. -- Dissent is patriotic, remember? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bcf41a3.3000...@cox.net
Re: How to remove oowriter delay on opening document?
Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net : So, do You know how I can activate it in KDE 3.5 ? Nope. xfce is my preferred DE. Just for information, it's mine too. -- Architecte Informatique chez Blueline/Gulfsat: Administration Systeme, Recherche Developpement +261 34 29 155 34 / +261 33 11 207 36 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100422084258.65c2f...@pbmiha.malagasy.com
Re: How to remove oowriter delay on opening document?
Thank You for Your time and answer, Ron: What version is that? v3.2 from Sid opens much faster than any other version I've seen. 3.2.0-4 Hang has a specific meaning. Do you mean seemingly does nothing? Correct, just hangs for a while (no any responses) then opens the document. Upgrade to v3.2; add more RAM; buy a faster CPU; learn C++ and join the OOo development team. Thank You for the wisdom - so I will do. There use to be a preloader, but I don't see it anymore. ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bcc9cf8.0d67f10a.33b0.4...@mx.google.com
Re: How to remove oowriter delay on opening document?
Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón: As Ron already said, review your system specs. OOo needs a lot of ram the first time it opens, and keeps consuming a good quantity of your system resources as long as is loaded. Wow! What a product! In OOo 2.4 there is a quick launch option that preloads OOo at startup, not sure if that is available on newer releases. How I can use the 2.4 version in the future releases?! - Compile myself? Or there are some repos for Debian that make peoples life not as bad as MS' ?! Or how I can make w/o C++ programming save the 2.4 version for ever? Please do not suppose I'm foolish - just want still comfortable working for years... Another thing you can try is launching OOo with an empty profile folder (just rename the current one) to start it from scratch and check if the delay still continues. Sorry, I do not understand empty profile folder... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bcc9e06.0e67f10a.47f2.4...@mx.google.com
Re: How to remove oowriter delay on opening document?
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 01:16:23 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón: As Ron already said, review your system specs. OOo needs a lot of ram the first time it opens, and keeps consuming a good quantity of your system resources as long as is loaded. Wow! What a product! Life is hard :-) In OOo 2.4 there is a quick launch option that preloads OOo at startup, not sure if that is available on newer releases. How I can use the 2.4 version in the future releases?! - Compile myself? Or there are some repos for Debian that make peoples life not as bad as MS' ?! Or how I can make w/o C++ programming save the 2.4 version for ever? Please do not suppose I'm foolish - just want still comfortable working for years... If OOo does not offer such feature anymore, you can get preload¹ which is... humm, a preloader daemon ;-) Another thing you can try is launching OOo with an empty profile folder (just rename the current one) to start it from scratch and check if the delay still continues. Sorry, I do not understand empty profile folder... OpenOffice saves the user settings under ~/.openoffice.org2 (or a similar path). Just try by renaming the current folder and start OOo (it will recreate an empty and new one) to check if you note any speed improvement. ¹ http://packages.debian.org/stable/misc/preload Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.04.19.18.58...@gmail.com
Re: How to remove oowriter delay on opening document?
On 2010-04-19 13:11, Sthu Deus wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Ron: What version is that? v3.2 from Sid opens much faster than any other version I've seen. 3.2.0-4 For me, that version performs much better than an other than the old 1.x ones. Hang has a specific meaning. Do you mean seemingly does nothing? Correct, just hangs for a while (no any responses) then opens the document. Upgrade to v3.2; add more RAM; buy a faster CPU; learn C++ and join the OOo development team. Thank You for the wisdom - so I will do. Also, run top(1) sorting by (M)emory. You'll almost definitely see OOo grind up CPU and RAM. There use to be a preloader, but I don't see it anymore. ? There was a feature where GNOME or KDE would pre-load OOo at DE startup. That way, it *appears* that OOo loads much faster, even though it was really just shifted. -- Dissent is patriotic, remember? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bccab01.6050...@cox.net
Re: How to remove oowriter delay on opening document?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: There use to be a preloader, but I don't see it anymore. There was a feature where GNOME or KDE would pre-load OOo at DE startup. That way, it *appears* that OOo loads much faster, even though it was really just shifted. There's still the preload package. It preloads whatever is needed most, hence presumably also OOo if that is what's run often. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkvMy40ACgkQ+VSRxYk440+4KgCeICkxgv7RQocTznsCZOfFg2lo sCcAoIEJAAV5yO4axm+y96NGpvlVPQoI =jDBy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bcccb8d.6010...@web.de
Re: How to remove oowriter delay on opening document?
On 2010-04-19 16:30, Clive McBarton wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: There use to be a preloader, but I don't see it anymore. There was a feature where GNOME or KDE would pre-load OOo at DE startup. That way, it *appears* that OOo loads much faster, even though it was really just shifted. There's still the preload package. It preloads whatever is needed most, hence presumably also OOo if that is what's run often. Which is not the specific-to-OOo package I referred to. -- Dissent is patriotic, remember? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bfe.6030...@cox.net
Re: How to remove oowriter delay on opening document?
On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 02:25:38 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: I have oowriter from testing repo installed w/ all the necessary dependencies. Now at opening of the first document it hangs for about 40 seconds - all other documents it opens quickly - the same is for oocalc. Is there anything I can do to remove this delays? As Ron already said, review your system specs. OOo needs a lot of ram the first time it opens, and keeps consuming a good quantity of your system resources as long as is loaded. In OOo 2.4 there is a quick launch option that preloads OOo at startup, not sure if that is available on newer releases. Another thing you can try is launching OOo with an empty profile folder (just rename the current one) to start it from scratch and check if the delay still continues. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.04.18.13.30...@gmail.com
Re: How to remove oowriter delay on opening document?
On 2010-04-13 23:24, Sthu Deus wrote: Good day. I have oowriter from testing repo installed w/ all the necessary What version is that? v3.2 from Sid opens much faster than any other version I've seen. dependencies. Now at opening of the first document it hangs for Hang has a specific meaning. Do you mean seemingly does nothing? about 40 seconds - all other documents it opens quickly - the same is for oocalc. Is there anything I can do to remove this delays? Upgrade to v3.2; add more RAM; buy a faster CPU; learn C++ and join the OOo development team. There use to be a preloader, but I don't see it anymore. -- Dissent is patriotic, remember? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bc5c591.3000...@cox.net
