Re: How to use Mutt?
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 02:57:47AM +, Stephen Allen wrote: On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 07:37:22PM -0500, Allan Wind wrote: On 2008-01-23T13:33:57+1300, Chris Bannister wrote: Can you tell it to use any editor, say vim, or does it still use pico? $ mutt F1 /editorenter I think the question was regarding Alpine. Yeah I meant alpine. I remember being lectured to about the dangers of getting used to pico as an editor[1] and being advised (to learn) to use vi for sanities sake. [1] Many of the students would use pico as their general editor and would wonder why this would render their code unpassable sometimes. -- Chris. == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:20:21 +0100, Dan H wrote: Hmmm... I tried that, hoping that this would get me nearer the infamous mutt. Hey, great, there's even an IMAP section! You can put in everything... username, password, authentication methods... except an IMAP server. I mean, c'mon. From mine ... once I've found an editor that works today set folder=imaps://server/ set imap_user=username set imap_pass=password # set which mailboxes to check for new mail (and list on startup with # -y) mailboxes =INBOX -- Stephen Patterson :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: http://patter.mine.nu/ GPG: B416F0DE :: Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't be silly, Minnie. Who'd be walking round these cliffs with a gas oven? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 16:37, Pantor wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/19/08 09:32, Michael D. Norwick wrote: Pantor wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/19/08 13:04, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: [snip] Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all? I hope not ... Especially for those times when you are rudely reminded why Sid is Unstable, and you are not able use your favorite GUI MUA. (That is, of course, if your email is stored in a non-MUA specific subdirectory. I like imap, since it lets me access my email from any MUA on any machine in the house...) Right, .muttrc is ready. What's now? $ sudo shutdown -r now wait for windows to boot and double click outlook.exe :) Sometimes some things are just too hard to explain. More kindly, some things you just have to start yourself, and come to the group with specific questions. Directly to OP: there are many excellent GUI MUAs, so why do you want to use Mutt? Really old machine? Shell account? Want to be a geek? Yes, that's true - wanna be a geek, wanna to know something what is cool. Icedove is not bad, but contacts window does not fit to screen and that make me stress. Nothing wrong with that... - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I hate vegetables! unknown -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHkouWS9HxQb37XmcRAsosAJsEOa7Axu3RR0CHk0II2twgxH8hgwCeKAVz k0qAqUcS7NExvLcPBdrzi28= =A6e4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- It is correct. Because Mutt is written not for humans. To configure Mutt for use it is the same as configure mechanical typing machine through USB connection for use instead for a keyboard. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 11:41:38AM +, Pantor wrote: It is correct. Because Mutt is written not for humans. To configure Mutt for use it is the same as configure mechanical typing machine through USB connection for use instead for a keyboard. Oh it's not that bad! For the OP: I use and love mutt and agree that all MUAs suck, but mutt sucks least. I started out using Pine at uni. Pine is ok as far as an MUA goes, but after a while you start to come across its limitations and you can't make it do *exactly* what you want. So my suggestion is to try Pine first (maybe look at Alpine which is the next generation Pine. This is in sid and lenny. If you're running Etch, there is prolly a backport or you can install pine-tracker (I think that's what it's called) which provides an easy way to install Pine on Etch. Once you have used Pine for a bit and tweaked it to do as much as it can for you, then try the leap to mutt. You could keep using pico to edit in mutt until you are ready to move onto something tastier. (Vim of course, not Emacs.) cheers dc -- David Purton [EMAIL PROTECTED] For the eyes of the LORD range throughout the earth to strengthen those whose hearts are fully committed to him. 2 Chronicles 16:9a signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to use Mutt?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/22/08 05:41, Pantor wrote: [snip] It is correct. Because Mutt is written not for humans. To configure Mutt for use it is the same as configure mechanical typing machine through USB connection for use instead for a keyboard. That's why I only use Mutt when X is horked. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I hate vegetables! unknown -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHleqaS9HxQb37XmcRAutZAKDiCVDnCmsUf/r5O644GhC1aTOtYgCgpTWO 9b2hMjZTXUF7Donb+Pg9N70= =LVhJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:10:21 +0100, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/22/08 05:41, Pantor wrote: [snip] It is correct. Because Mutt is written not for humans. To configure Mutt for use it is the same as configure mechanical typing machine through USB connection for use instead for a keyboard. That's why I only use Mutt when X is horked. Oh mutt's good, you can just configure it to do everything under the sun so a muttrc builder such as http://www.muttrcbuilder.org/ can put a lot of good setting in to start from. I've been using mutt for years, and most of my config evolved in the first few months of usage (currently 272 lines including comments blanks). -- Stephen Patterson :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: http://patter.mine.nu/ GPG: B416F0DE :: Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't be silly, Minnie. Who'd be walking round these cliffs with a gas oven? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
On 2008-01-22 11:41:38 +, Pantor wrote: It is correct. Because Mutt is written not for humans. To configure Mutt for use it is the same as configure mechanical typing machine through USB connection for use instead for a keyboard. Mutt's configuration is not that bad: very powerful and easily reusable on my various accounts. The only thing I find awful is its quoting mechanism. For instance, here's one of my macros: macro index y limit~y\( |\\\`)( |\\\')\leftleftleftleftleftleftleftleftleft limit to some label See the number of consecutive backslashes! -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.org/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arenaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:41:21 + Patter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh mutt's good, you can just configure it to do everything under the sun so a muttrc builder such as http://www.muttrcbuilder.org/ can put a lot of good setting in to start from. Hmmm... I tried that, hoping that this would get me nearer the infamous mutt. Hey, great, there's even an IMAP section! You can put in everything... username, password, authentication methods... except an IMAP server. I mean, c'mon. OK I'm sure this can be resolved by some heavy RTFM, but still... --D. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 07:09:55PM +0100, Dan H wrote: On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:41:21 + Patter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh mutt's good, you can just configure it to do everything under the sun so a muttrc builder such as http://www.muttrcbuilder.org/ can put a lot of good setting in to start from. Hmmm... I tried that, hoping that this would get me nearer the infamous mutt. Hey, great, there's even an IMAP section! You can put in everything... username, password, authentication methods... except an IMAP server. I mean, c'mon. OK I'm sure this can be resolved by some heavy RTFM, but still... Put there password=yeah_like_i_am_gonna_tell_you and later replace that in the generated file. Anyway, who needs passwords? account-hook imap://pear/ 'set tunnel=ssh pear /usr/local/bin/imap-local' -- Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:24:54 + Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Put there password=yeah_like_i_am_gonna_tell_you and later replace that in the generated file. Anyway, who needs passwords? Yeah, that's what I'd have done, but still I don't know where to enter my IMAP server. In general I'm a big fan of programs that can only configured through read-only dotfiles but I think mutt is clearly over my head here. As much as I'd prefer a console email client (but I didn't like pine much). --D. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 19:09:55 +0100, Dan H wrote: On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:41:21 + Patter wrote: Oh mutt's good, you can just configure it to do everything under the sun so a muttrc builder such as http://www.muttrcbuilder.org/ can put a lot of good setting in to start from. Hmmm... I tried that, hoping that this would get me nearer the infamous mutt. Hey, great, there's even an IMAP section! You can put in everything... username, password, authentication methods... except an IMAP server. I mean, c'mon. OK I'm sure this can be resolved by some heavy RTFM, but still... Here are some snippets from my ~/.muttrc to get you started: #--- set spoolfile=imaps://your.imap.server.tld/ mailboxes !INBOX # subscribe to the inbox mailboxes !sent-mail !Trash # more folders on the server (optional) mailboxes /var/mail/your_local_username # your local mail (optional) set imap_user=your_imap_username # you will be prompted for these if set imap_pass=your_imap_password # you do not put them in the file #--- Details are here: file:///usr/share/doc/mutt/html/optionalfeatures.html#imap file:///usr/share/doc/mutt/html/optionalfeatures.html#url-syntax file:///usr/share/doc/mutt/html/configuration.html#mailboxes file:///usr/share/doc/mutt/html/reference.html#spoolfile -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
On 2008-01-22T20:15:55+0100, Dan H wrote: In general I'm a big fan of programs that can only configured through read-only dotfiles but I think mutt is clearly over my head here. As much as I'd prefer a console email client (but I didn't like pine much). $ mutt F1 /imapserverenter 4th hit on google when I searched for: mutt imap server gives example configuration. /Allan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
On 2008-01-23T13:33:57+1300, Chris Bannister wrote: Can you tell it to use any editor, say vim, or does it still use pico? $ mutt F1 /editorenter /Allan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 04:43:22AM -0500, Justin Piszcz wrote: I tried swtching over to Mutt, yet having used (pine) for more than a decade, I cannot find myself to migrate, now that pine is dead, I have switched to alpine and cannot get enough of it! Can you tell it to use any editor, say vim, or does it still use pico? -- Chris. == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
On Jan 22, 2008 3:41 AM, Pantor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To configure Mutt for use it is the same as configure mechanical typing machine through USB connection for use instead for a keyboard. Hyperbole much? /etc/termcap is a regular pain to get things set up right; mutt is practically a no-brainer by comparison. -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 09:10:05PM +, Pantor wrote: Right, .muttrc is ready. What's now? Is it? Then what is the trouble. Are you getting your mail from an ISP? What are you using for that? AIUI icedove has all this built-in when you click get mail. Mutt does not[1]. You need to use either fetchmail, or getmail for that. Then there is the filtering into different mailboxes, where procmail, maildrop, or even in the MTA itself. [1] Well OK, it has to a certain degree, but it seems the general consensus is to use 3rd party apps. Also [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a better list to discuss mutt issues. I also recommend starting at http://www.mutt.org/ Then look at abook, urlview, muttprint, lbdb ... P.S. Stick with it, mutt is a great program and allows for powerful macros/hooks. -- Chris. == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 07:37:22PM -0500, Allan Wind wrote: On 2008-01-23T13:33:57+1300, Chris Bannister wrote: Can you tell it to use any editor, say vim, or does it still use pico? $ mutt F1 /editorenter I think the question was regarding Alpine. -- Regards, S.D.Allen - Toronto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:33:57 +1300 Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you tell it to use any editor, say vim, or does it still use pico? Any editor. --D. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 03:54:32PM -0800, Roger B.A. Klorese wrote: Pantor wrote: ---Mutt: (no mailbox) [Msgs:0]---(date/date)-%gt;-(all)--- No mailbox is open. Why it is? Because you have it configured to look for mail in a different place from where you have your MTA configured to put incoming mail. Fix it. Or because nothing or nobody has sent him mail so /var/mail does not exist yet. It doesn't get created by adduser, but by the MTA when it delivers the first piece. Does mutt exit when it tells you that no mailbox is open? If not (I would hope not), just mail yourself something. Hit 'm', enter your own user name (login name) on the box, give a subject, e.g. 'test', then write yourself a love letter. exit the editor, hit 'y' to send it. Hit 'q' to exit mutt. Restart mutt and it should tell you that you have one piece of mail. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] I tried swtching over to Mutt, yet having used (pine) for more than a decade, I cannot find myself to migrate, now that pine is dead, I have switched to alpine and cannot get enough of it! Justin. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
On 04:43 Sun 20 Jan , Justin Piszcz wrote: I tried swtching over to Mutt, yet having used (pine) for more than a decade, I cannot find myself to migrate, now that pine is dead, I have switched to alpine and cannot get enough of it! Justin. I used GUI MUAs for years; Eudora, Claws etc. but they would never do exactly what I wanted. Started using Mutt about six months ago and am still learning but already I have it configured closer to my ideal than all the others put together. Well worth the effort. -- Regards, Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 12:47, Pantor wrote: Lads, would you be able to advice, please, how to use idiotcal program Mutt? For example, how to configure mail account settings? Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all? Before we answer, tell us how much you've searched Google for Mutt tutorials and .muttrc examples. Then we know what else you need to learn. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I hate vegetables! unknown -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHkkewS9HxQb37XmcRAttRAJ0Z3McS+mVC+HmWdBRzrs80itY8ggCg00pZ jSw3rj1wtnHCevq3yAnUH8c= =wRXj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 12:47, Pantor wrote: Lads, would you be able to advice, please, how to use idiotcal program Mutt? For example, how to configure mail account settings? Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all? Before we answer, tell us how much you've searched Google for Mutt tutorials and .muttrc examples. Then we know what else you need to learn. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I hate vegetables! unknown -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHkkewS9HxQb37XmcRAttRAJ0Z3McS+mVC+HmWdBRzrs80itY8ggCg00pZ jSw3rj1wtnHCevq3yAnUH8c= =wRXj -END PGP SIGNATURE- Yesterday I spend about one and half hour in reading newbie manual. Nothing clear was found. Only plain theology with some philosophical aspects about mailing system as it is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: From: Pantor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian user list debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: How to use Mutt? X-Spam-Virus: No X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on liszt.debian.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.9 required=4.0 tests=AWL,LDOSUBSCRIBER, LDO_WHITELIST autolearn=failed version=3.2.3 Lads, would you be able to advice, please, how to use idiotcal program Mutt? For example, how to configure mail account settings? Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all? Mutt is an excellent MUA. (Mail User Agent) If mutt is installed on your box go to: /usr/share/doc/mutt/exemples to see examples of files .muttrc (the file of configuration of mutt) To get your mails you need fetchmail. (man fetchmail) To split up your mails use procmail. (man procmail) and follow the advice of R. J. http://wiki.mutt.org/?MuttWiki hth. -- Gérard
Re: How to use Mutt?
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: Lads, would you be able to advice, please, how to use idiotcal program Mutt? I do not know if you are serious. See man mutt and man muttrc as starter. Read http://www.mutt.org/ For example, how to configure mail account settings? vim ~/.muttrc Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all? I hope not ... Good luck. Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 13:03, Pantor wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/19/08 12:47, Pantor wrote: Lads, would you be able to advice, please, how to use idiotcal program Mutt? For example, how to configure mail account settings? Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all? Before we answer, tell us how much you've searched Google for Mutt tutorials and .muttrc examples. Then we know what else you need to learn. Yesterday I spend about one and half hour in reading newbie manual. Nothing clear was found. Only plain theology with some philosophical aspects about mailing system as it is. Nah. Boring stuff. Have you created a .muttrc file yet? http://www.muttrcbuilder.org/ - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I hate vegetables! unknown -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHkkydS9HxQb37XmcRAqn1AJ0aC+XgLlnb6JmpUg5sCCHyIrqtdwCg0k53 FJ9EV1OllTSVh5HibmLxa5A= =ni89 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Will try to do now. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 13:04, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: [snip] Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all? I hope not ... Especially for those times when you are rudely reminded why Sid is Unstable, and you are not able use your favorite GUI MUA. (That is, of course, if your email is stored in a non-MUA specific subdirectory. I like imap, since it lets me access my email from any MUA on any machine in the house...) - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I hate vegetables! unknown -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHklykS9HxQb37XmcRAorQAJ90K4heusHepdRwCPMTPtXdN16xWQCdH8T+ 6sto1UTzNl/3vdnAHfF+jes= =dZUt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 13:04, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: [snip] Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all? I hope not ... Especially for those times when you are rudely reminded why Sid is Unstable, and you are not able use your favorite GUI MUA. (That is, of course, if your email is stored in a non-MUA specific subdirectory. I like imap, since it lets me access my email from any MUA on any machine in the house...) - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I hate vegetables! unknown -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHklykS9HxQb37XmcRAorQAJ90K4heusHepdRwCPMTPtXdN16xWQCdH8T+ 6sto1UTzNl/3vdnAHfF+jes= =dZUt -END PGP SIGNATURE- Right, .muttrc is ready. What's now? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
Pantor wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 13:04, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: [snip] Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all? I hope not ... Especially for those times when you are rudely reminded why Sid is Unstable, and you are not able use your favorite GUI MUA. (That is, of course, if your email is stored in a non-MUA specific subdirectory. I like imap, since it lets me access my email from any MUA on any machine in the house...) - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I hate vegetables! unknown -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHklykS9HxQb37XmcRAorQAJ90K4heusHepdRwCPMTPtXdN16xWQCdH8T+ 6sto1UTzNl/3vdnAHfF+jes= =dZUt -END PGP SIGNATURE- Right, .muttrc is ready. What's now? $ sudo shutdown -r now wait for windows to boot and double click outlook.exe :) Sometimes some things are just too hard to explain. Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:32:21 + Michael D. Norwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pantor wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 13:04, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: [snip] Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all? I hope not ... Especially for those times when you are rudely reminded why Sid is Unstable, and you are not able use your favorite GUI MUA. (That is, of course, if your email is stored in a non-MUA specific subdirectory. I like imap, since it lets me access my email from any MUA on any machine in the house...) - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I hate vegetables! unknown -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHklykS9HxQb37XmcRAorQAJ90K4heusHepdRwCPMTPtXdN16xWQCdH8T+ 6sto1UTzNl/3vdnAHfF+jes= =dZUt -END PGP SIGNATURE- Right, .muttrc is ready. What's now? $ sudo shutdown -r now wait for windows to boot and double click outlook.exe :) Sometimes some things are just too hard to explain. Michael Haha! Touche' !!! There are some users that really should not use anything but Windows. -- Best regards, Chris OK, so ten out of ten for style, but minus several million for good thinking, yeah? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 09:32, Michael D. Norwick wrote: Pantor wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/19/08 13:04, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: [snip] Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all? I hope not ... Especially for those times when you are rudely reminded why Sid is Unstable, and you are not able use your favorite GUI MUA. (That is, of course, if your email is stored in a non-MUA specific subdirectory. I like imap, since it lets me access my email from any MUA on any machine in the house...) Right, .muttrc is ready. What's now? $ sudo shutdown -r now wait for windows to boot and double click outlook.exe :) Sometimes some things are just too hard to explain. More kindly, some things you just have to start yourself, and come to the group with specific questions. Directly to OP: there are many excellent GUI MUAs, so why do you want to use Mutt? Really old machine? Shell account? Want to be a geek? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I hate vegetables! unknown -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHknaOS9HxQb37XmcRAhxRAJ4+tKArVWCuEGMFDuLGt4lx+z2KnQCgy0RA zVKhpEeCkSNLtpX4WybQJVU= =6Mqs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 09:32, Michael D. Norwick wrote: Pantor wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/19/08 13:04, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: [snip] Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all? I hope not ... Especially for those times when you are rudely reminded why Sid is Unstable, and you are not able use your favorite GUI MUA. (That is, of course, if your email is stored in a non-MUA specific subdirectory. I like imap, since it lets me access my email from any MUA on any machine in the house...) Right, .muttrc is ready. What's now? $ sudo shutdown -r now wait for windows to boot and double click outlook.exe :) Sometimes some things are just too hard to explain. More kindly, some things you just have to start yourself, and come to the group with specific questions. Directly to OP: there are many excellent GUI MUAs, so why do you want to use Mutt? Really old machine? Shell account? Want to be a geek? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I hate vegetables! unknown -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHknaOS9HxQb37XmcRAhxRAJ4+tKArVWCuEGMFDuLGt4lx+z2KnQCgy0RA zVKhpEeCkSNLtpX4WybQJVU= =6Mqs -END PGP SIGNATURE- Yes, that's true - wanna be a geek, wanna to know something what is cool. Icedove is not bad, but contacts window does not fit to screen and that make me stress. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
Gerard Robin wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: From: Pantor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian user list debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: How to use Mutt? X-Spam-Virus: No X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on liszt.debian.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.9 required=4.0 tests=AWL,LDOSUBSCRIBER, LDO_WHITELIST autolearn=failed version=3.2.3 Lads, would you be able to advice, please, how to use idiotcal program Mutt? For example, how to configure mail account settings? Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all? Mutt is an excellent MUA. (Mail User Agent) If mutt is installed on your box go to: /usr/share/doc/mutt/exemples to see examples of files .muttrc (the file of configuration of mutt) To get your mails you need fetchmail. (man fetchmail) To split up your mails use procmail. (man procmail) http://wiki.mutt.org/?MuttWiki hth. ---Mutt: (no mailbox) [Msgs:0]---(date/date)-%gt;-(all)--- No mailbox is open. Why it is? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 16:37, Pantor wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/19/08 09:32, Michael D. Norwick wrote: Pantor wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/19/08 13:04, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: [snip] Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all? I hope not ... Especially for those times when you are rudely reminded why Sid is Unstable, and you are not able use your favorite GUI MUA. (That is, of course, if your email is stored in a non-MUA specific subdirectory. I like imap, since it lets me access my email from any MUA on any machine in the house...) Right, .muttrc is ready. What's now? $ sudo shutdown -r now wait for windows to boot and double click outlook.exe :) Sometimes some things are just too hard to explain. More kindly, some things you just have to start yourself, and come to the group with specific questions. Directly to OP: there are many excellent GUI MUAs, so why do you want to use Mutt? Really old machine? Shell account? Want to be a geek? Yes, that's true - wanna be a geek, wanna to know something what is cool. Icedove is not bad, but contacts window does not fit to screen and that make me stress. Nothing wrong with that... - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I hate vegetables! unknown -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHkouWS9HxQb37XmcRAsosAJsEOa7Axu3RR0CHk0II2twgxH8hgwCeKAVz k0qAqUcS7NExvLcPBdrzi28= =A6e4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 17:25, Pantor wrote: Gerard Robin wrote: [snip] Mutt is an excellent MUA. (Mail User Agent) If mutt is installed on your box go to: /usr/share/doc/mutt/exemples to see examples of files .muttrc (the file of configuration of mutt) To get your mails you need fetchmail. (man fetchmail) To split up your mails use procmail. (man procmail) http://wiki.mutt.org/?MuttWiki hth. ---Mutt: (no mailbox) [Msgs:0]---(date/date)-%gt;-(all)--- No mailbox is open. Why it is? Because it doesn't know where your email is. You need to tell it. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I hate vegetables! unknown -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHkoviS9HxQb37XmcRAmtgAKCtybBRAjackQ2bjKN3LSO47fHrtgCg6hqS gNir3qP54+Zu0qGJ6+yvVrY= =cnVj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
Pantor wrote: ---Mutt: (no mailbox) [Msgs:0]---(date/date)-%gt;-(all)--- No mailbox is open. Why it is? Because you have it configured to look for mail in a different place from where you have your MTA configured to put incoming mail. Fix it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 17:25, Pantor wrote: Gerard Robin wrote: [snip] Mutt is an excellent MUA. (Mail User Agent) If mutt is installed on your box go to: /usr/share/doc/mutt/exemples to see examples of files .muttrc (the file of configuration of mutt) To get your mails you need fetchmail. (man fetchmail) To split up your mails use procmail. (man procmail) http://wiki.mutt.org/?MuttWiki hth. ---Mutt: (no mailbox) [Msgs:0]---(date/date)-%gt;-(all)--- No mailbox is open. Why it is? Because it doesn't know where your email is. You need to tell it. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I hate vegetables! unknown -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHkoviS9HxQb37XmcRAmtgAKCtybBRAjackQ2bjKN3LSO47fHrtgCg6hqS gNir3qP54+Zu0qGJ6+yvVrY= =cnVj -END PGP SIGNATURE- And how to do that? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:56:57 + Pantor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 17:25, Pantor wrote: Gerard Robin wrote: [snip] Mutt is an excellent MUA. (Mail User Agent) If mutt is installed on your box go to: /usr/share/doc/mutt/exemples to see examples of files .muttrc (the file of configuration of mutt) To get your mails you need fetchmail. (man fetchmail) To split up your mails use procmail. (man procmail) http://wiki.mutt.org/?MuttWiki hth. ---Mutt: (no mailbox) [Msgs:0]---(date/date)-%gt;-(all)--- No mailbox is open. Why it is? Because it doesn't know where your email is. You need to tell it. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I hate vegetables! unknown -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHkoviS9HxQb37XmcRAmtgAKCtybBRAjackQ2bjKN3LSO47fHrtgCg6hqS gNir3qP54+Zu0qGJ6+yvVrY= =cnVj -END PGP SIGNATURE- And how to do that? Did you by chance have someone install the OS for you? Sorta sounds like you did - if so, have them configure Mutt for you. -- Best regards, Chris Budget cuts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
Chris wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:56:57 + Pantor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 17:25, Pantor wrote: Gerard Robin wrote: [snip] Mutt is an excellent MUA. (Mail User Agent) If mutt is installed on your box go to: /usr/share/doc/mutt/exemples to see examples of files .muttrc (the file of configuration of mutt) To get your mails you need fetchmail. (man fetchmail) To split up your mails use procmail. (man procmail) http://wiki.mutt.org/?MuttWiki hth. ---Mutt: (no mailbox) [Msgs:0]---(date/date)-%gt;-(all)--- No mailbox is open. Why it is? Because it doesn't know where your email is. You need to tell it. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I hate vegetables! unknown -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHkoviS9HxQb37XmcRAmtgAKCtybBRAjackQ2bjKN3LSO47fHrtgCg6hqS gNir3qP54+Zu0qGJ6+yvVrY= =cnVj -END PGP SIGNATURE- And how to do that? Did you by chance have someone install the OS for you? Sorta sounds like you did - if so, have them configure Mutt for you. No, I installed myself quite easy through network. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
On 2008-01-19 23:56:57 +, Pantor wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Because it doesn't know where your email is. You need to tell it. And how to do that? 3.274. spoolfile Type: path Default: If your spool mailbox is in a non-default place where Mutt cannot find it, you can specify its location with this variable. Mutt will automatically set this variable to the value of the environment variable $MAIL if it is not set. If you don't know where your spool mailbox is, you can look in /var/mail or $HOME/Mail. Once you've found it, either set your MAIL environment variable (best solution, as other software may benefit from it) or set $spoolfile in your .muttrc. If you have several incoming mailboxes, e.g. for mailing-lists, you can use the mailboxes command. -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.org/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arenaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
On Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 15:32:21 +, Michael D. Norwick wrote: Sometimes some things are just too hard to explain. Such as the correct way to trim extraneous content from mails before replying? Yes I agree. Steve -- # Commercial Debian GNU/Linux Support http://www.linux-administration.org/ pgp87ERLCNtwq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to use Mutt?
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 03:54:32PM -0800, Roger B.A. Klorese wrote: Pantor wrote: ---Mutt: (no mailbox) [Msgs:0]---(date/date)-%gt;-(all)--- No mailbox is open. Why it is? Because you have it configured to look for mail in a different place from where you have your MTA configured to put incoming mail. Fix it. Or because nothing or nobody has sent him mail so /var/mail does not exist yet. It doesn't get created by adduser, but by the MTA when it delivers the first piece. Does mutt exit when it tells you that no mailbox is open? If not (I would hope not), just mail yourself something. Hit 'm', enter your own user name (login name) on the box, give a subject, e.g. 'test', then write yourself a love letter. exit the editor, hit 'y' to send it. Hit 'q' to exit mutt. Restart mutt and it should tell you that you have one piece of mail. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
Steve Kemp wrote: On Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 15:32:21 +, Michael D. Norwick wrote: Sometimes some things are just too hard to explain. Such as the correct way to trim extraneous content from mails before replying? Yes I agree. Steve Ouch! Wasn't there just some long drawn out thread on 'top posting'? Didn't think I needed advice on newsgroup mail formatting but thanks anyway. Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
