Re: KDE4 - way to add to k menu for *all* users?
So, no one has any ideas/info on this? Am I the only Debian user who doesn't use GNOME? :-) David Guntner grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Hi, all. I could have sworn that once upon a time, running kmenuedit as root would let you set the menu items for all users on the system. Now, unfortunately, it only seems to edit the menu for the root user. Is there a way under KDE4 to edit the menu entries, and then have it save the new/changed entries so that they appear for all users on the system? --Dave signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: KDE4 - way to add to k menu for *all* users?
From: David Guntner dav...@akamail.net To: Linux Debian Mailing List debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Monday, December 3, 2012 8:51 AM Subject: Re: KDE4 - way to add to k menu for *all* users? So, no one has any ideas/info on this? Am I the only Debian user who doesn't use GNOME? :-) David Guntner grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Hi, all. I could have sworn that once upon a time, running kmenuedit as root would let you set the menu items for all users on the system. Now, unfortunately, it only seems to edit the menu for the root user. Is there a way under KDE4 to edit the menu entries, and then have it save the new/changed entries so that they appear for all users on the system? --Dave No, you are hardly the only KDE4 user. It looks like nobody has an answer for you yet, though. I surely don't. Sorry about that. It is a good question. Have you asked on the KDE lists? Jay -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1354543524.9958.yahoomail...@web111715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
Re: KDE4 - way to add to k menu for *all* users?
On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 05:51:01 -0800 David Guntner dav...@akamail.net wrote: Hello David, So, no one has any ideas/info on this? Am I the only Debian user who I've never tried what to do what you're asking. It may be that it was possible under KDE3, and never has been in v4, and you're memory has let you down. That's a possibility, as well as it did work as you say, and now doesn't. I really have no idea. doesn't use GNOME? :-) No. I use KDE4 myself. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Bet you thought you knew what I was about Problem - Sex Pistols signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: KDE4 - way to add to k menu for *all* users?
Brad Rogers grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 05:51:01 -0800 David Guntner dav...@akamail.net wrote: Hello David, So, no one has any ideas/info on this? Am I the only Debian user who I've never tried what to do what you're asking. It may be that it was possible under KDE3, and never has been in v4, and you're memory has let you down. That's a possibility, as well as it did work as you say, and now doesn't. I really have no idea. Yea, I wasn't completely clear about that. It was under KDE3 where I had been able to do that, back on my old Mandriva setup. It would really suck if they've taken that functionality out. I can't believe that, though - when I install a package via aptitude or apt-get (or even those rare occasions where I use dpkg), I see it saying something about processing triggers for menu and so on as it does its thing - and then that new program shows up in the KDE menu. So there *has* to be a method for getting something into the K menu system-wide for all users. I just wish I knew what it is :-) --Dave signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: KDE4 - way to add to k menu for *all* users?
Jay DeKing grabbed a keyboard and wrote: David Guntner grabbed a keyboard and wrote: I could have sworn that once upon a time, running kmenuedit as root would let you set the menu items for all users on the system. Now, unfortunately, it only seems to edit the menu for the root user. Is there a way under KDE4 to edit the menu entries, and then have it save the new/changed entries so that they appear for all users on the system? No, you are hardly the only KDE4 user. It looks like nobody has an answer for you yet, though. I surely don't. Sorry about that. It is a good question. Have you asked on the KDE lists? Guess I may have to go find one and join it just long enough to see if anyone there knows the way to do it. I know I've Googled like crazy, figuring it would have turned up in a web forum or mailing list archive somewhere (I can't believe I'm the only person who's tried to do this and had problems with it :-) ), but I guess my Google Fu in this case just isn't strong enough - either really no one has discussed this before or I'm just not coming up with the right search terms. (The latter being the most likely. grin) So I guess I'll go find a KDE list and join long enough to ask the question. :-) Thanks. --Dave signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: KDE4 - way to add to k menu for *all* users?
On 03/12/12 14:04, Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 05:51:01 -0800 David Guntner dav...@akamail.net wrote: Hello David, So, no one has any ideas/info on this? Am I the only Debian user who I've never tried what to do what you're asking. It may be that it was possible under KDE3, and never has been in v4, and you're memory has let you down. That's a possibility, as well as it did work as you say, and now doesn't. I really have no idea. doesn't use GNOME? :-) No. I use KDE4 myself. +1 There is no easy way to do this. The best you can do is amend the root user's menu, and then copy that to the global menu file. However, as soon as individual users start modifying their menus, they are stuck with their settings, and nothing you do with the global file will have any effect. It's crap design... I'm not sure whether you may be able to edit the root user's menu, which will be reflected in a *virgin* user's menu. Try http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/howtos/kde-menus.htm, for some hints. -- Tony van der Hoff| mailto:t...@vanderhoff.org Buckinghamshire, England | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50bcb656.3060...@vanderhoff.org
Re: KDE4 - way to add to k menu for *all* users?
On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 06:15:01 -0800 David Guntner dav...@akamail.net wrote: Hello David, Yea, I wasn't completely clear about that. It was under KDE3 where I had been able to do that, back on my old Mandriva setup. It would I missed that part, then. really suck if they've taken that functionality out. I can't believe that, though - when I install a package via aptitude or apt-get (or even I can; There's a few things that were available under KDE3, and are no longer doable in v4, more's the pity. :-( -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent It's got nothing to do with the need to impress Titanic (My Over) Reaction - 999 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: KDE4 - way to add to k menu for *all* users?
On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 06:18:49 -0800 David Guntner dav...@akamail.net wrote: Hello David, So I guess I'll go find a KDE list and join long enough to ask the question. :-) How about debian-...@lists.debian.org? -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent No guarantee the stimuli must be perceived the same... Gary Gilmore's Eyes - The Adverts signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: KDE4 - way to add to k menu for *all* users?
On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:25:26 + Tony van der Hoff t...@vanderhoff.org wrote: Hello Tony, I'm not sure whether you may be able to edit the root user's menu, which will be reflected in a *virgin* user's menu. You saying that has reminded me, that there's somewhere you can store default settings for just this use case. I don't recall where it is, but I'm sure a google will locate it. Whether it'll work for the menus, IDK. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Where will you be when the bodies burn? The Gasman Cometh - Crass signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: KDE4 - way to add to k menu for *all* users?
Brad Rogers grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 06:18:49 -0800
David Guntner dav...@akamail.net wrote:
Hello David,
So I guess I'll go find a KDE list and join long enough to ask the
question. :-)
How about debian-...@lists.debian.org?
Oh! Ok, I didn't know there was one of those. :-) I figured I'd have
to join a {something}@kde list or something like that. Thanks!
--Dave
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Re: KDE4 - way to add to k menu for *all* users?
Brad Rogers grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 06:15:01 -0800 David Guntner dav...@akamail.net wrote: Hello David, Yea, I wasn't completely clear about that. It was under KDE3 where I had been able to do that, back on my old Mandriva setup. It would I missed that part, then. Naw, you didn't miss it. I just hadn't mentioned it - thus my I wasn't completely clear about that. :-) really suck if they've taken that functionality out. I can't believe that, though - when I install a package via aptitude or apt-get (or even I can; There's a few things that were available under KDE3, and are no longer doable in v4, more's the pity. :-( I hear what you're saying. I'm just wondering about it due to the fact that when I install a package via one of the regular methods (dpkg/apt/aptitude), it does update the K menu for everybody and that new items shows up. So a method *has* to be there; otherwise, how is the package manager doing it? --Dave signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: KDE4 - way to add to k menu for *all* users?
On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 10:03:16 -0800
David Guntner dav...@akamail.net wrote:
Hello David,
Oh! Ok, I didn't know there was one of those. :-) I figured I'd have
to join a {something}@kde list or something like that. Thanks!
YW, David.
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Re: KDE4 - way to add to k menu for *all* users?
On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 10:05:58 -0800 David Guntner dav...@akamail.net wrote: Hello David, Naw, you didn't miss it. I just hadn't mentioned it - thus my I wasn't completely clear about that. :-) Which I misread as I *was* completely... (my emphasis). Ah well (dpkg/apt/aptitude), it does update the K menu for everybody and that new items shows up. So a method *has* to be there; otherwise, how is the package manager doing it? Good point. I'd not considered that. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Two sides to every story Public Image - Public Image Ltd signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: KDE4 - way to add to k menu for *all* users?
David Guntner dav...@akamail.net writes: So, no one has any ideas/info on this? Am I the only Debian user who doesn't use GNOME? :-) David Guntner grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Hi, all. I could have sworn that once upon a time, running kmenuedit as root would let you set the menu items for all users on the system. Now, unfortunately, it only seems to edit the menu for the root user. Is there a way under KDE4 to edit the menu entries, and then have it save the new/changed entries so that they appear for all users on the system? Try creating a .desktop file in /usr/local/share/applications. Use one of the files in /usr/share/applications as a starting point. -- regards, kushal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50bd91cf.2581440a.04b8.2...@mx.google.com
