Re: KDEDIR and Debian packages
On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Navindra Umanee wrote: [ snip ] : Probably not. Debian is lame. [ snip ] : But in potato there is: : ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/x11/wmaker-kde_0.51.0-3.deb : : I am not sure what else you'll need from unstable. : : I'm impressed. :) Hmm, that must mean that you too are lame :) -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
Re: KDEDIR and Debian packages
Excellent stuff. Now all we need is a deb with --enable-kde, --enable-gnome and --disable-redundantstuff (root menus etc). Is making such a deb as simple as downloading source.deb, compiling with the options and repacking? (Oh yeah, would it compile from source on 2.0?) It won't on Suse 5.3 without a new libtool. Can anyone tell me howto make such a package windowmaker-desktop.X.XX.deb? TIA George Russell -- One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the Darkness bind them, In the Land of Mordor where the shadows lie.
Re: KDEDIR and Debian packages
Montreal Thu Feb 18 07:43:30 1999 MacKenzie, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is my understanding that on Debian, the KDEDIR variable does not have to be set. I could be wrong but I think I read that somewhere. I just installed KDE1.1 Debs from KDE.org and unless dpkg modified my .bashrc, the KDEDIR is not set and all works fine. Personally, I recommend that you don't use the .debs because you won't find debs for any of the many other KDE applications available. I think it is better that you keep KDE separate in /opt/kde or /usr/local/kde and use a program such as Smart Install to keep track of KDE packages. You might also steal /etc/menu-methods/kde from the .debs before you get rid of them (and edit it to use a proper directory). -N. -- These download files are in Microsoft Word 6.0 format. After unzipping, these files can be viewed in any text editor, including all versions of Microsoft Word, WordPad, and Microsoft Word Viewer. [Microsoft website] http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~navindra/editors/
Re: KDEDIR and Debian packages
Navindra Umanee wrote: Personally, I recommend that you don't use the .debs because you won't find debs for any of the many other KDE applications available. I think it is better that you keep KDE separate in /opt/kde or /usr/local/kde and use a program such as Smart Install to keep track of KDE packages. You might also steal /etc/menu-methods/kde from the .debs before you get rid of them (and edit it to use a proper directory). Could you expand on how to do this? I installed from the same source tarballs as on Suse, and the configure script didn't detect it was being installed on debian. So I have no debian menus in kpanel :-( Short of installing binary debs, can I do this? How do debian users setup local printers? I see no front end like Redhat control panel or YasT. The /etc files are rather intimidating and I can't find the relevant documentation. (I have the Debian 2 official binary CD for 1386) Does Debian 2.1 come with a Window Maker deb compiled with --enable-kde? TIA George Russell
Re: KDEDIR and Debian packages
Montreal Thu Feb 18 17:21:22 1999 George Richard Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Navindra Umanee wrote: Personally, I recommend that you don't use the .debs because you won't find debs for any of the many other KDE applications available. I think it is better that you keep KDE separate in /opt/kde or /usr/local/kde and use a program such as Smart Install to keep track of KDE packages. You might also steal /etc/menu-methods/kde from the .debs before you get rid of them (and edit it to use a proper directory). Could you expand on how to do this? I installed from the same source tarballs as on Suse, and the configure script didn't detect it was being installed on debian. So I have no debian menus in kpanel :-( You probably need a configure option (--debian or --enable-debian or --with-debian?). Dunno. Short of installing binary debs, can I do this? Okay. (1) Copy kdebase/debian/menu-method to /etc/menu-methods/kde (2) Edit it to use the proper directory. Here's mine: --- menu-method Tue Mar 31 07:46:39 1998 +++ /etc/menu-methods/kde Wed Feb 10 05:09:39 1999 @@ -24,7 +24,7 @@ endmenu= #submenutitle= rootsection= -rootprefix=/var/spool/kdeapplnk +rootprefix=/opt/kde/share/applnk/Debian userprefix=/Personal/Debian prerun=test -n \prefix()\ rm -rf prefix() /* #treewalk=c() (3) The first time, run update-menus to generate Debian menus for KDE. How do debian users setup local printers? I see no front end like Redhat control panel or YasT. The /etc files are rather intimidating and I can't find the relevant documentation. (I have the Debian 2 official binary CD for 1386) IIRC, I installed magicfilter and followed the instructions (magicfilterconfig). It generated the appropriate entry for /etc/printcap. I may have had to tweak this file manually. Does Debian 2.1 come with a Window Maker deb compiled with --enable-kde? Probably not. Debian is lame. -N.
Re: KDEDIR and Debian packages
Navindra Umanee wrote: Does Debian 2.1 come with a Window Maker deb compiled with --enable-kde? Probably not. Debian is lame. 2.1, No. That's because the WindowMaker version in 2.1 is 0.20, which didn't yet support KDE. Presumably, the support was added after the 2.1 freeze. But in potato there is: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/x11/wmaker-kde_0.51.0-3.deb I am not sure what else you'll need from unstable. Kirk
Re: KDEDIR and Debian packages
Montreal Thu Feb 18 18:30:36 1999 Kirk Hogenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Navindra Umanee wrote: Does Debian 2.1 come with a Window Maker deb compiled with --enable-kde? Probably not. Debian is lame. 2.1, No. That's because the WindowMaker version in 2.1 is 0.20, which didn't yet support KDE. Presumably, the support was added after the 2.1 freeze. But in potato there is: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/x11/wmaker-kde_0.51.0-3.deb I am not sure what else you'll need from unstable. I'm impressed. :) -N.
Re: KDEDIR and Debian packages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sun, 14 Feb 1999, Pollywog wrote: What does one do about KDEDIR after installing the Debian KDE packages? I want to install kxicq (from source) but it complains about not finding KDE. I can even find KDE with the 'locate' command, and it is working. There is a kde binary but no kde/bin. It should be set to /usr/ I believe, or /usr/X11R6. Basically, if the binary (executable) file are in /usr/X11R6/bin, then you'd want KDEDIR to be /usr/X11R6, so when it looks for $KDEDIR/bin/kwm or whatever, it finds it. noah PGP public key available at http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/home/httpd/n/nmeyerha/mail.html or by 'finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]' This message was composed in a 100% Microsoft free environment. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNsrXhodCcpBjGWoFAQFW0wP8CoLdbq4BjFCdO+n5aCfb+iNFw80RXNx9 ZUq1pThyTePv8LGYeCPAzzsrHx+5OivUvA2fXU9pU4ETEQ/yLdlAcQ6kh4mMhu/E 80FEM2ihLz/MDSoZwRj63hq/iTMMVZF410m5OpK94xFQhxWzngFdln9RZRHGGRbw nYCnuRQjNd0= =yqKG -END PGP SIGNATURE-
RE: KDEDIR and Debian packages
It is my understanding that on Debian, the KDEDIR variable does not have to be set. I could be wrong but I think I read that somewhere. I just installed KDE1.1 Debs from KDE.org and unless dpkg modified my .bashrc, the KDEDIR is not set and all works fine. Tough to check because I read this list from work on a WinNT box. Andrew MacKenzie On Sun, 14 Feb 1999, Pollywog wrote: What does one do about KDEDIR after installing the Debian KDE packages? I want to install kxicq (from source) but it complains about not finding KDE. I can even find KDE with the 'locate' command, and it is working. There is a kde binary but no kde/bin. It should be set to /usr/ I believe, or /usr/X11R6. Basically, if the binary (executable) file are in /usr/X11R6/bin, then you'd want KDEDIR to be /usr/X11R6, so when it looks for $KDEDIR/bin/kwm or whatever, it finds it. noah PGP public key available at http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/home/httpd/n/nmeyerha/mail.html or by 'finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]' This message was composed in a 100% Microsoft free environment. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNsrXhodCcpBjGWoFAQFW0wP8CoLdbq4BjFCdO+n5aCfb+iNFw80RXNx9 ZUq1pThyTePv8LGYeCPAzzsrHx+5OivUvA2fXU9pU4ETEQ/yLdlAcQ6kh4mMhu/E 80FEM2ihLz/MDSoZwRj63hq/iTMMVZF410m5OpK94xFQhxWzngFdln9RZRHGGRbw nYCnuRQjNd0= =yqKG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
RE: KDEDIR and Debian packages
On 17-Feb-99 MacKenzie, Andrew wrote: It is my understanding that on Debian, the KDEDIR variable does not have to be set. I could be wrong but I think I read that somewhere. I have been told that by another person, but this was after I fixed the problem. He told me that with Debian, I don't have to worry about these things. I don't know if that applies when one installs something from source, as I did when I had the problem, or if perhaps I only had a problem because I gave a *wrong* variable as opposed to no variable at all. thanks -- Andrew
Re: KDEDIR and Debian packages
Forgive me if I am wrong, as it has been 2 years since I ran KDE. But I remember back on Slackware when I had to compile it. That it requires the KDEDIR environment variable which points to the KDE installed location. Is this what it could be complaining about. Maybe you should put export KDEDIR=/path/to/kde/installed/dir in /etc/profile or something. -Original Message- From: Pollywog [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org; KDE User List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, 15 February 1999 16:28 Subject: KDEDIR and Debian packages What does one do about KDEDIR after installing the Debian KDE packages? I want to install kxicq (from source) but it complains about not finding KDE. I can even find KDE with the 'locate' command, and it is working. There is a kde binary but no kde/bin. thanks -- Andrew -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: KDEDIR and Debian packages
On 15-Feb-99 debian wrote: Forgive me if I am wrong, as it has been 2 years since I ran KDE. But I remember back on Slackware when I had to compile it. That it requires the KDEDIR environment variable which points to the KDE installed location. Is this what it could be complaining about. Maybe you should put export KDEDIR=/path/to/kde/installed/dir in /etc/profile or something. I know that, but what I was trying to say is that after installing Debian packages of KDE, it is not possible for me to determine the path I need to set in my profile. Not a problem if I install KDE from source. -- Andrew
