Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-11 Thread Richard Hector

On 9/03/22 04:06, David Wright wrote:

On Tue 08 Mar 2022 at 07:00:08 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 01:54:11PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:

[...]

> Just to solve the infinite recursion problem:
> 
> richard@zircon:~$ apt-file search bin/apt-file

> apt-file: /usr/bin/apt-file
> 
> so install the apt-file package :-)


Oh, a recursive fishing rod :-)


Sorry to disappoint, but I think we're dealing with
repetition here, rather than recursion:


Perhaps both.

Cheers,
Richard



Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-08 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 09:06:45AM -0600, David Wright wrote:

[...]

> Sorry to disappoint, but I think we're dealing with
> repetition here, rather than recursion:
> 
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/10/msg00589.html

Fans of classical functional languages repeat through recursion,
anyway ;-D

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Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-08 Thread David Wright
On Tue 08 Mar 2022 at 07:00:08 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 01:54:11PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > Just to solve the infinite recursion problem:
> > 
> > richard@zircon:~$ apt-file search bin/apt-file
> > apt-file: /usr/bin/apt-file
> > 
> > so install the apt-file package :-)
> 
> Oh, a recursive fishing rod :-)

Sorry to disappoint, but I think we're dealing with
repetition here, rather than recursion:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/10/msg00589.html

Cheers,
David.



Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-07 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 01:54:11PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:

[...]

> Just to solve the infinite recursion problem:
> 
> richard@zircon:~$ apt-file search bin/apt-file
> apt-file: /usr/bin/apt-file
> 
> so install the apt-file package :-)

Oh, a recursive fishing rod :-)

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Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-07 Thread Richard Hector

On 6/03/22 22:20, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

On Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 09:34:36AM +0100, Christian Britz wrote:



On 2022-03-06 09:30 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote:

>> apt-get --no-install-recommends install mate-desktop-environment
> When I attempted to run startx I received the message
>> startx: command not found

Hi Richard,

I can't tell you anything about the dependencies but you could try to
install xinit package. This contains the startx command.


(Thanks, Christian, for the fish. Now I'll try to sell the rod ;-)

Reminder (paste this on a sticky note on your workshop wall :)

   apt-file search startx


Just to solve the infinite recursion problem:

richard@zircon:~$ apt-file search bin/apt-file
apt-file: /usr/bin/apt-file

so install the apt-file package :-)

Cheers,
Richard



Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-06 Thread tomas
On Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 03:47:25AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 03/06/2022 03:20 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

[...]

> > (Thanks, Christian, for the fish. Now I'll try to sell the rod ;-)
> 
> I guess the reel and line are up to me ;}

This is due to the irremediable kit & tinkerer mentality around here.

Sorry for the inconvenience ;-)

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Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-06 Thread Richard Owlett

On 03/06/2022 03:20 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

On Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 09:34:36AM +0100, Christian Britz wrote:



On 2022-03-06 09:30 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote:


apt-get --no-install-recommends install mate-desktop-environment

When I attempted to run startx I received the message

startx: command not found


Hi Richard,

I can't tell you anything about the dependencies but you could try to
install xinit package. This contains the startx command.


(Thanks, Christian, for the fish. Now I'll try to sell the rod ;-)


I guess the reel and line are up to me ;}



Reminder (paste this on a sticky note on your workshop wall :)

   apt-file search startx

(or, if you want more specific results):

   apt-file search /usr/bin/startx

A partial path, like bin/startx will do, too (so if you don't know whether
the thing lives in /bin/foo, /sbin/foo, /usr/bin/foo, /usr/sbin/foo you
can match against "bin/foo".

Enjoy Debian :)


Been enjoying it since days of Squeeze. I just use it strangely.
Thanks.



Cheers






Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-06 Thread Richard Owlett

On 03/06/2022 03:00 AM, Christian Britz wrote:



On 2022-03-06 09:49 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote:

Thanks. I'll try that. At the moment I'm having some hardware problems
connecting the test machine to the internet. I use a Alcatel Linkzone
4GLTE Hotspot from T-Mobile. Intermittently Debian doesn't recognize it.
Yesterday it was fine ;{


If you have an Android phone (probably with iPhone too),


I don't have any smartphone. Due to elderly eyes, a laptop screen is 
barely large enough. Normally I use a 17" monitor.




you could try
to put the sim card into the phone and connect it via USB. USB tethering
works out of the box for me on Debian stable.


I connect the Linkzone via USB. I have disabled its WiFi as I've not 
spent the time to understand how to have secure WiFi and in any case I 
only use one machine at a time.


After doing power off/on on both the laptop and Linkzone everything 
worked. I now have the desired minimal MATE DE.


For anyone reading this thread, my request for suggested reading stands.

Thanks.






Regards,
Christian






Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-06 Thread tomas
On Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 09:34:36AM +0100, Christian Britz wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2022-03-06 09:30 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote:
> 
> >> apt-get --no-install-recommends install mate-desktop-environment
> > When I attempted to run startx I received the message
> >> startx: command not found
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> I can't tell you anything about the dependencies but you could try to
> install xinit package. This contains the startx command.

(Thanks, Christian, for the fish. Now I'll try to sell the rod ;-)

Reminder (paste this on a sticky note on your workshop wall :)

  apt-file search startx

(or, if you want more specific results):

  apt-file search /usr/bin/startx

A partial path, like bin/startx will do, too (so if you don't know whether
the thing lives in /bin/foo, /sbin/foo, /usr/bin/foo, /usr/sbin/foo you
can match against "bin/foo".

Enjoy Debian :)

Cheers
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Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-06 Thread Christian Britz



On 2022-03-06 09:49 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote:
> Thanks. I'll try that. At the moment I'm having some hardware problems 
> connecting the test machine to the internet. I use a Alcatel Linkzone 
> 4GLTE Hotspot from T-Mobile. Intermittently Debian doesn't recognize it. 
> Yesterday it was fine ;{

If you have an Android phone (probably with iPhone too), you could try
to put the sim card into the phone and connect it via USB. USB tethering
works out of the box for me on Debian stable.

Regards,
Christian

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Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-06 Thread Richard Owlett

On 03/06/2022 02:34 AM, Christian Britz wrote:



On 2022-03-06 09:30 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote:


apt-get --no-install-recommends install mate-desktop-environment

When I attempted to run startx I received the message

startx: command not found


Hi Richard,

I can't tell you anything about the dependencies but you could try to
install xinit package. This contains the startx command.

Regards,
Christian



Thanks. I'll try that. At the moment I'm having some hardware problems 
connecting the test machine to the internet. I use a Alcatel Linkzone 
4GLTE Hotspot from T-Mobile. Intermittently Debian doesn't recognize it. 
Yesterday it was fine ;{






Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-06 Thread Christian Britz



On 2022-03-06 09:30 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote:

>> apt-get --no-install-recommends install mate-desktop-environment
> When I attempted to run startx I received the message
>> startx: command not found

Hi Richard,

I can't tell you anything about the dependencies but you could try to
install xinit package. This contains the startx command.

Regards,
Christian

-- 
http://www.cb-fraggle.de