Re: List packages from non-default repositories
Thanks for the detailed inspection. I'll have a closer look into the apt abilities. Regards, Jörg.
Re: List packages from non-default repositories
On 04/10/2023 15:42, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: $ apt list '~i' | grep -v '/testing' and $ apt-show-versions | grep -v '/testing ' show the same packages, correctly, but $ apt list '~i!~Atesting' is missing some packages. It is the reason why I added '?narrow'. Try apt list '?any-version(~i!~A^testing)' For me it is not intuitive that the outer '?any-version()' modifies result of the inner '?and()'. Actually the expression gives *some* upgradable packages in addition, but not all of them. For the stable release installed libc6 version is available from bookworm/main, but thunderbird-102 has been wiped from bookworm-security, so apt list '?narrow(~i, ~n"^(thunderbird|libc6)$", !~A^stable)' Listing... Done thunderbird/stable-security 1:115.3.1-1~deb12u1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1:102.15.1-1~deb12u1] N: There are 3 additional versions. Please use the '-a' switch to see them. skips libc6 however it can be upgraded apt list '~U~n"^(thunderbird|libc6)$"' Listing... Done libc6/stable-security 2.36-9+deb12u3 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.36-9+deb12u1] thunderbird/stable-security 1:115.3.1-1~deb12u1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1:102.15.1-1~deb12u1] It took some time for me to figure out what is the difference. apt policy libc6 thunderbird libc6: Installed: 2.36-9+deb12u1 Candidate: 2.36-9+deb12u3 Version table: 2.37-10 100 100 http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages 2.36-9+deb12u3 500 500 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security/main amd64 Packages *** 2.36-9+deb12u1 500 500 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status thunderbird: Installed: 1:102.15.1-1~deb12u1 Candidate: 1:115.3.1-1~deb12u1 Version table: 1:115.3.1-1~deb12u1 500 500 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security/main amd64 Packages 1:115.2.2-1 100 100 http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages *** 1:102.15.1-1~deb12u1 100 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 1:102.13.0-1~deb12u1 500 500 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm/main amd64 Packages So either ", !~U" should be added inside "?narrow()" or "| ~U" outside of it, depending on desired result in respect to upgradable packages.
Re: List packages from non-default repositories
Max Nikulin wrote on 04/10/2023 04:22: On 04/10/2023 01:29, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: Max Nikulin wrote on 03/10/2023 12:11: apt list '?narrow(~i, !~Astable|~Astable-backports|!~O^Debian$|~o|~c)' In my experience the only tool that gives correct answers, is apt-show-versions in the package of the same name: $ apt-show-versions | grep -v '/stable ' Thanks. Do you have an example of a case when apt-show-versions works better when the following command? apt list '~i' | grep -Ev '[/,]stable(-updates|-security)?,' I have to add that I'm working on a system from the testing archive with unstable and experimental archives also available. Indeed the commands $ apt list '~i' | grep -v '/testing' and $ apt-show-versions | grep -v '/testing ' show the same packages, correctly, but $ apt list '~i!~Atesting' is missing some packages. Regards, Jörg.
Re: List packages from non-default repositories
On 04/10/2023 11:58, David Wright wrote: Explanations for these hits: linux-image is the previous kernel, xtoolwait is from squeeze, youtube-dl is the last I found before I started using yt-dlp, and I don't have backports in my sources.list. Besides youtube-dl, these packages should be reported by apt list '~o' In my cases '~o' was inapplicable since packages are available from configured repositories. At certain moment (after reinstalling libstdc++6 and removing gcc-13-base) my list was elpa-org/testing,now 9.6.9+dfsg-1 all [installed] libnss3/testing,now 2:3.92-1 amd64 [installed,automatic] libx11-6/testing,now 2:1.8.6-1 amd64 [installed,automatic] libx11-xcb1/testing,now 2:1.8.6-1 amd64 [installed,automatic] linux-image-6.4.0-0.deb12.2-amd64/stable-backports,now 6.4.4-3~bpo12+1 amd64 [installed,automatic] I have realized that in my original command '~o' may be omitted, '~c' was added at a wrong place. In comparison to "apt list '~i'" or apt-show-versions + grep it had additional feature (or bug). It listed upgradable packages. So my current pattern to get package candidates for clean-up is (for oldstable) apt list '?narrow(~i, !~A^oldstable|~A^oldstable-backports|!~O^Debian$, !~U) | ~c | ~b'
Re: List packages from non-default repositories
On Wed 04 Oct 2023 at 09:22:06 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 04/10/2023 01:29, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > > Max Nikulin wrote on 03/10/2023 12:11: > > > apt list '?narrow(~i, !~Astable|~Astable-backports|!~O^Debian$|~o|~c)' > > > > In my experience the only tool that gives correct answers, is > > apt-show-versions in the package of the same name: > > > > $ apt-show-versions | grep -v '/stable ' > > Thanks. > > Do you have an example of a case when apt-show-versions works better > when the following command? > > apt list '~i' | grep -Ev '[/,]stable(-updates|-security)?,' > > OK, it issues a warning > > WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in > scripts. > > In my case apt list + grep gives the same packages as "apt list" with > the pattern I posted. $ apt-show-versions | grep -v '/bullseye' linux-image-5.10.0-24-amd64:amd64 5.10.179-5 installed: No available version in archive xtoolwait:amd64 1.3-6.2 installed: No available version in archive youtube-dl:all 2021.12.17-1~bpo11+1 newer than version in archive yt-dlp:all 2023.07.06-1~bpo12+1 installed: No available version in archive $ apt list '~i' | grep -Ev '[/,]oldstable(-updates|-security)?,' WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts. Listing... linux-image-5.10.0-24-amd64/now 5.10.179-5 amd64 [installed,local] xtoolwait/now 1.3-6.2 amd64 [installed,local] youtube-dl/now 2021.12.17-1~bpo11+1 all [installed,local] yt-dlp/now 2023.07.06-1~bpo12+1 all [installed,local] $ So just a little more information in the first. Explanations for these hits: linux-image is the previous kernel, xtoolwait is from squeeze, youtube-dl is the last I found before I started using yt-dlp, and I don't have backports in my sources.list. Cheers, David.
Re: List packages from non-default repositories
On 04/10/2023 01:29, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: Max Nikulin wrote on 03/10/2023 12:11: apt list '?narrow(~i, !~Astable|~Astable-backports|!~O^Debian$|~o|~c)' In my experience the only tool that gives correct answers, is apt-show-versions in the package of the same name: $ apt-show-versions | grep -v '/stable ' Thanks. Do you have an example of a case when apt-show-versions works better when the following command? apt list '~i' | grep -Ev '[/,]stable(-updates|-security)?,' OK, it issues a warning WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts. In my case apt list + grep gives the same packages as "apt list" with the pattern I posted.
Re: List packages from non-default repositories
Max Nikulin wrote on 03/10/2023 12:11: apt list '?narrow(~i, !~Astable|~Astable-backports|!~O^Debian$|~o|~c)' In my experience the only tool that gives correct answers, is apt-show-versions in the package of the same name: $ apt-show-versions | grep -v '/stable ' Beware, that it works with a database which should be updated before asking something. Regards, Jörg.
