Re: NSA into Debian distribution!
On Mi, 12 feb 14, 19:41:00, Erick Ocrospoma wrote: Don't really understand your email, nothing makes sense. This must be considered spam. You shouldn't reply to spam ;) Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: NSA into Debian distribution!
On 13/02/14 20:20, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 12 feb 14, 19:41:00, Erick Ocrospoma wrote: Don't really understand your email, nothing makes sense. This must be considered spam. You shouldn't reply to spam ;) Spam? NSA backdoors, chemical contrails, fluoride pharmacological conspiracies, EVIL, corporate manipulation of Debian, gang stalking, anal probing by aliens of the socially alienated, EVIL, attention seeking 14-year old system administrators fishing for l0lz, you're being too kind. Oh wait... irony. :) Kind regards, Andrei Kind regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52fc90a2.6080...@gmail.com
Re: NSA into Debian distribution!
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 10:58:48AM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 13/02/14 10:24, lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: Hello List I was very alert for almost 14 years, snipped Great, but I think you're posting to the wrong list. Try trollsrus.org or witlingfools.org https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/02/msg00480.html SCNR -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140213104841.GF8890@tal
Re: NSA into Debian distribution!
On 02/12/2014 06:58 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 13/02/14 10:24, lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: Hello List I was very alert for almost 14 years, snipped Great, but I think you're posting to the wrong list. Try trollsrus.org or witlingfools.org HTH Kind regards Makes me think of an article I saw yesterday: It's a scientific FACT: Online comment trolls are SADISTS • The Register http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/12/study_shoes_that_online_comment_trolls_are_sadists/ -- --- Dave Woyciesjes --- ICQ# 905818 --- CompTIA A+ Certified IT Tech - http://certification.comptia.org/ --- HDI Certified Support Center Analyst - http://www.ThinkHDI.com/ Registered Linux user number 464583 Computers have lots of memory but no imagination. The problem with troubleshooting is that trouble shoots back. - from some guy on the internet. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52fcedb8.6020...@sbcglobal.net
Re: NSA into Debian distribution!
On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 11:07 -0500, Dave Woyciesjes wrote: On 02/12/2014 06:58 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 13/02/14 10:24, lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: Hello List I was very alert for almost 14 years, snipped Great, but I think you're posting to the wrong list. Try trollsrus.org or witlingfools.org HTH Kind regards Makes me think of an article I saw yesterday: It's a scientific FACT: Online comment trolls are SADISTS • The Register http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/12/study_shoes_that_online_comment_trolls_are_sadists/ Bullshit! This is much more spam than the OPs message is spam! Please folks stop posting irrelevant crap, at least mark your mails as OT or send them to the OT mailing list. Seriously! There is no argument that makes this statistic serious! There is no differential diagnosis, such as e.g. autoaggression which would lead to differential diagnosis to such as Narcissism, e.g. a bipolar disorder or just accentuation, an emotional intensity disorder/accentuation etc. pp.. On lists with people from different languages even a misunderstanding is more likely than a psychological disorder. trollsrus.org is a funny joke. Your link isn't funny anymore. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1392312004.678.126.camel@archlinux
Re: NSA into Debian distribution!
I seem to have an issue as well and my cdn error Scottrocc roccVegas ent.Inc On Feb 13, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Dave Woyciesjes woycies...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On 02/12/2014 06:58 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 13/02/14 10:24, lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: Hello List I was very alert for almost 14 years, snipped Great, but I think you're posting to the wrong list. Try trollsrus.org or witlingfools.org HTH Kind regards Makes me think of an article I saw yesterday: It's a scientific FACT: Online comment trolls are SADISTS • The Register http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/12/study_shoes_that_online_comment_trolls_are_sadists/ -- --- Dave Woyciesjes --- ICQ# 905818 --- CompTIA A+ Certified IT Tech - http://certification.comptia.org/ --- HDI Certified Support Center Analyst - http://www.ThinkHDI.com/ Registered Linux user number 464583 Computers have lots of memory but no imagination. The problem with troubleshooting is that trouble shoots back. - from some guy on the internet. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52fcedb8.6020...@sbcglobal.net
Re: NSA into Debian distribution!
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Seriously! There is no argument that makes this statistic serious! There is no differential diagnosis Please do not throw around psychological/medical terms of art (differential diagnosis) in that fashion. It's embarrassing, as one doesn't know how to respond in a caring manner. Thank you. NEVER FORGET THAT IN THE THOROUGHLY ADDLED SOCIETY ONLY THE LUNATIC IS SANE. -- No matter how big the problem is, you can always run away from it. Dom Irrera -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/Pine.LNX.4.64.1402140035480.8418@gebyyobl.ybpnyqbznva
Re: NSA into Debian distribution!
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Seriously! There is no argument that makes this statistic serious! There is no differential diagnosis... Rather than just post a snotty remark and leave it at that, (as I appear to have done) here is something you ought to be able to sink your fangs into. One of the classics in the field: http://users.rider.edu/~suler/psycyber/holland.html Yes, Holland is a literature guy, but _iirc_ he put a lot of energy into learning psychoanalysis while teaching at MIT. -- IMPORTANT: This email is intended for the use of the individual addressee(s) named above and may contain information that is confidential, privileged or unsuitable for overly sensitive persons with low self-esteem, no sense of humour or irrational metaphysical beliefs. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/Pine.LNX.4.64.1402140058150.8418@gebyyobl.ybpnyqbznva
Re: NSA into Debian distribution!
On 13/02/14 10:24, lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: Hello List I was very alert for almost 14 years, snipped Great, but I think you're posting to the wrong list. Try trollsrus.org or witlingfools.org HTH Kind regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52fc0ab8.5000...@gmail.com
Re: NSA into Debian distribution!
On 12 February 2014 18:24, lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: Hello List I was very alert for almost 14 years, thinking that someone could come into Debian distributions, to install some kind of backdoor; but i could not imagine that the backdoor has been installed little by little into the Debian people, please see, from https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd: === Why Debian should default to systemd Fedora, OpenSuSE, Arch and Mageia have already made the choice to use systemd, and it is getting excellent upstream support for a growing number of packages --- So well, debianites must do what masses do! We can not think by our selves anymore. == Community Systemd is a lively project with dozens of developers from various companies, including Red Hat, Samsung and Intel. It integrates contributions from even more individual contributors: to this date, 438 authors, with 63 having at least 10 commits. It can also be noted that two of the Debian maintainers have commit permissions. The companies are more important than developers, good taste; the money is more important than people! great thinking! Welcome Evil! == What is really happening into Debian Organization? Has it been taken by Companies? Do people who are looking for freedom should left Debian? Debian has been the single GNU/Linux trusted distribution for many years! Don't really understand your email, nothing makes sense. This must be considered spam. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/91a73a0e2c79cf1abe06003d2d5aad2c.squir...@mail.vcn.bc.ca -- ~ Happy install ! Erick. --- Cellphone : +51 950307809 IRC : zerick About : http://about.me/zerick Linux User ID : 549567 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CADOnD37cP_L+5LAgQf7TMR=lqo4jnomshtoxgqthz8vyo4l...@mail.gmail.com
Re: NSA into Debian distribution!
On 12 February 2014 18:24, lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: Hello List I was very alert for almost 14 years, thinking that someone could come into Debian distributions, to install some kind of backdoor; but i could not imagine that the backdoor has been installed little by little into the Debian people, please see, from https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd: === Why Debian should default to systemd Fedora, OpenSuSE, Arch and Mageia have already made the choice to use systemd, and it is getting excellent upstream support for a growing number of packages --- So well, debianites must do what masses do! We can not think by our selves anymore. == Community Systemd is a lively project with dozens of developers from various companies, including Red Hat, Samsung and Intel. It integrates contributions from even more individual contributors: to this date, 438 authors, with 63 having at least 10 commits. It can also be noted that two of the Debian maintainers have commit permissions. The companies are more important than developers, good taste; the money is more important than people! great thinking! Welcome Evil! == What is really happening into Debian Organization? Has it been taken by Companies? Do people who are looking for freedom should left Debian? Debian has been the single GNU/Linux trusted distribution for many years! Don't really understand your email, nothing makes sense. This must be considered spam. Erick. What worry me, is that usually the decisions are taken with choices, and this time there is no choice. I administer 2 Debian servers, and what could happen using systemd by default? I am looking for a simple system that can be administered by hand. Obviously i am not an expert. The decision seems to be taken because companies are using it, but not for simplicity. Normally in Debian, users have a choice. It is why i am asking if some things have changed in Debian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/3aa567100856cb9bea447cb35586a52a.squir...@mail.vcn.bc.ca
Re: NSA into Debian distribution!
On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 10:58 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: Try trollsrus.org :D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1392259005.678.7.camel@archlinux
Re: NSA into Debian distribution!
On 2/13/14, lati...@vcn.bc.ca lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: On 12 February 2014 18:24, lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: Don't really understand your email, nothing makes sense. This must be considered spam. Erick. What worry me, is that usually the decisions are taken with choices, and this time there is no choice. You are trolling because you evidently do not understand what just happened, and have not spent enough effort to try to understand... This is evident from what you are saying. I administer 2 Debian servers, So you must have a basic ability to read? and what could happen using systemd by default? I am looking for a simple system that can be administered by hand. Obviously i am not an expert. You can install Debian however you want. Your existing install does not change. Since you are an admin of 2 Debian server you ought to know these things! The decision seems to be taken because companies are using it, but not for simplicity. Your postulation (seems) is unfounded, untrue, without substantiating facts of any sort, is an opinion (as all seemings are) and is, as said above, evidently uninformed. Suggest you read the Debian constitution, and make at least a little effort to understand what just happened in the TC vote. Genuine misunderstandings are not uncommon, but a genuine lack of willingness to make discovery, at the same time as spreading your uninformed opinions, is close to the definition of trolling. Normally in Debian, users have a choice. True statement, but leads the uninformed reader of your statement to wonder oh, so now there's no more choice! dang, what dastardly deeds is debian doing?!!! - so more trollishness here. It is why i am asking if some things have changed in Debian. More of the same. Inform yourself. Stop trolling. Please. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOsGNSQ+ZhHD45VBGMzQ_nKFmn5f84wacJQ5=qupda8lc1u...@mail.gmail.com
Re: NSA into Debian distribution!
2014-02-13 0:24 GMT+01:00 lati...@vcn.bc.ca: Hello List I was very alert for almost 14 years, thinking that someone could come into Debian distributions, to install some kind of backdoor; but i could not imagine that the backdoor has been installed little by little into the Debian people, please see, from https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd: === Why Debian should default to systemd Fedora, OpenSuSE, Arch and Mageia have already made the choice to use systemd, and it is getting excellent upstream support for a growing number of packages --- So well, debianites must do what masses do! We can not think by our selves anymore. == Community Systemd is a lively project with dozens of developers from various companies, including Red Hat, Samsung and Intel. It integrates contributions from even more individual contributors: to this date, 438 authors, with 63 having at least 10 commits. It can also be noted that two of the Debian maintainers have commit permissions. The companies are more important than developers, good taste; the money is more important than people! great thinking! Welcome Evil! == What is really happening into Debian Organization? Has it been taken by Companies? Do people who are looking for freedom should left Debian? Debian has been the single GNU/Linux trusted distribution for many years! :0 * ^From: lati...@vcn.bc.ca /dev/null
