Re: Number of systems running user Debian? ; gre
Andrei Popescu writes: [...] > Also popcon needs a working MTA setup to submit the data, which is not > really common these days and was known to rely on 'atime'[2], while it > is not uncommon to mount file systems with 'noatime'. [...] > [2] not sure if this is still the case ,[ /usr/share/doc/popularity-contest/FAQ | Q) /usr is mounted with 'noatime'. | | A) popularity-contest relies on atime to know what packages were used during |the last month. This means you will only report the list of packages |installed without usage information. ` Memnon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ei3dn4u1@mean.albasani.net
Re: Number of systems running user Debian? ; gre
On Ma, 31 mai 11, 01:01:05, giovanni_re wrote: > What numeric info is available about the # of systems running Debian for > users (desktop, laptop, notebook, not server)? > > Any breakdown by country? > > What #'s are there for # of daily apt-get update requests? > > Thanks :) > > > http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/05/12/the-top-20-strongholds-for-desktop-linux The only "official" Debian survey I know of is 'popularity-contest' (popcon). While it's mostly intended to monitor package use[1] it does have total numbers of submissions. However, since Debian values user privacy there is a special question during the installation (defaulting to "No") to ask for user's consent about gathering the data and submitting it (anonymously, of course). Also popcon needs a working MTA setup to submit the data, which is not really common these days and was known to rely on 'atime'[2], while it is not uncommon to mount file systems with 'noatime'. Because of all these reasons popcon data is far from being accurate to try to guess absolute numbers (ex. total numbers of users), but it is good for comparisons (package A is x times more popular than package B). [1] one less known feature of popcon is 'popcon-largest-unused' [2] not sure if this is still the case Not really helpful, but I thought you might want to know :) Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Number of systems running user Debian? ; gre
On Tue, 31 May 2011 01:01:05 -0700, giovanni_re wrote: > What numeric info is available about the # of systems running Debian for > users (desktop, laptop, notebook, not server)? > > Any breakdown by country? > > What #'s are there for # of daily apt-get update requests? > > Thanks :) Good question. Does Debian make online surveys to their users and computer usage? It should be nice for having a better understanding about Debian's community and their needs, goals, expectations, user involvement in projects, etc... > http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/05/12/the-top-20-strongholds-for-desktop-linux I don't know where are those numbers coming from but it sounds realistic to me. We all know that poll results can be misleading or biased but sometimes they're better than nothing. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.05.31.16.16...@gmail.com
