Re: SSH Obsolete?

2000-09-03 Thread Daniel Whelan
  This is OpenSSH (from non-us.debian.org).  Is there an OpenSSH2
  package?  If so, it's not showing up in dselect.  In fact, other than this
  package (which is marked obsolete) no other ssh packages show up: except
  qmtpssh, which is not what I'm looking for.
 
 If you're interested in OpenSSH 2.1.something, you can fetch the Woody
 packages, you need ssh, ssh-askpass(-gnome) and libssl095 AFAIR.

Isn't the currently debianized ssh2 package the official ssh2 (i.e.
non-free, sucky licensed one) as opposed to the OpenSSH 2 version? Are
there debian packages of the latter hiding someplace?

Daniel

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Re: SSH Obsolete?

2000-09-01 Thread kmself
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 01:29:25AM -0500, Matt Stegman wrote:
 
 Today I thought it would be a good idea to check for package updates, as
 the last time I updated anything, Potato was labeled unstable. So, I log
 into the system, run apt-get update, and check out dselect (I'm new to
 the apt system, and don't know all the handy commands yet.  Dselect is
 nicer to my brain).
 
 What's this?  I have 4 obsolete packages (all in non-US):
 ircii
 libssl09
 ssh
 ssh-askpass

These are probably old (non-free) ssh packages.

OpenSSH is the replacement package for SSH, you'll want to add a non-US
archive site to your /etc/apt/sources file.

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Re: SSH Obsolete?

2000-09-01 Thread Matt Stegman

On Fri, 1 Sep 2000 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
 These are probably old (non-free) ssh packages.
 
 OpenSSH is the replacement package for SSH, you'll want to add a non-US
 archive site to your /etc/apt/sources file.

Package: ssh 
Status: install ok installed 
Priority: optional 
Section: non-US 
Installed-Size: 502 
Maintainer: Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Source: openssh 
Version: 1:1.2.3-9

This is OpenSSH (from non-us.debian.org).  Is there an OpenSSH2
package?  If so, it's not showing up in dselect.  In fact, other than this
package (which is marked obsolete) no other ssh packages show up: except
qmtpssh, which is not what I'm looking for.

In /etc/apt/sources.list, I have 

deb ftp://ftp.eecs.umich.edu/debian/ potato main non-free contrib 
deb-src ftp://ftp.eecs.umich.edu/debian/ potato main non-free contrib 

deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ potato main non-free contrib 
deb-src ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ potato main non-free contrib 

deb ftp://ftp.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/debian/ potato main non-free 
contrib 
deb-src ftp://ftp.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/debian/ potato main
non-free contrib 

deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib
non-free 
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib
non-free


-Matt Stegman [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: SSH Obsolete?

2000-09-01 Thread Gregory T. Norris
Does /etc/apt/sources.list contain an entry for non-US (something like
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US/main)? 
Anything which isn't currently found in one of your defined mirrors
will be listed as obsolete.

Also, did you run Update from dselect's menu?  I've found that
dselect may not sync with apt until that occurs (make sure you set the
access method to apt first).

On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 01:29:25AM -0500, Matt Stegman wrote:
 
 Today I thought it would be a good idea to check for package updates,
 as the last time I updated anything, Potato was labeled unstable. So,
 I log into the system, run apt-get update, and check out dselect
 (I'm new to the apt system, and don't know all the handy commands
 yet.  Dselect is nicer to my brain).
 
 What's this?  I have 4 obsolete packages (all in non-US):
 ircii
 libssl09
 ssh
 ssh-askpass
 
 It suggests that I remove them.  I look around, and there's no other
 ssh package listed.  I don't see ssh2 in the list, nor a new
 version of ssh.  Why does dselect (or rather, apt) think ssh and irc
 are obsolete?  What's going on?


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Re: SSH Obsolete?

2000-09-01 Thread Matt Stegman


On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Gregory T. Norris wrote:
...
 Anything which isn't currently found in one of your defined mirrors
 will be listed as obsolete.

Ah, I see.  Thanks, I was wondering what obsolete meant.

 Also, did you run Update from dselect's menu?  I've found that
 dselect may not sync with apt until that occurs (make sure you set the
 access method to apt first).

Dselect is already set to apt.  But, after running Update from dselect,
dselect now shows no obsolete packages.  Dselect keeps a separate package
database from apt?  I suppose it has to do with supporting 4 different
access methods...

Thanks a lot!

-Matt Stegman
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Re: SSH Obsolete?

2000-09-01 Thread Morten Liebach
On  1, sep, 2000 at 04:26:39 -0500, Matt Stegman wrote:
 
 On Fri, 1 Sep 2000 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
  These are probably old (non-free) ssh packages.
  
  OpenSSH is the replacement package for SSH, you'll want to add a non-US
  archive site to your /etc/apt/sources file.
 
 Package: ssh 
 Status: install ok installed 
 Priority: optional 
 Section: non-US 
 Installed-Size: 502 
 Maintainer: Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Source: openssh 
 Version: 1:1.2.3-9
 
 This is OpenSSH (from non-us.debian.org).  Is there an OpenSSH2
 package?  If so, it's not showing up in dselect.  In fact, other than this
 package (which is marked obsolete) no other ssh packages show up: except
 qmtpssh, which is not what I'm looking for.

If you're interested in OpenSSH 2.1.something, you can fetch the Woody
packages, you need ssh, ssh-askpass(-gnome) and libssl095 AFAIR.

Download them to a dir, and do `dpkg -i *.deb' there.

HTH
Morten

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Re: SSH Obsolete?

2000-09-01 Thread John L . Fjellstad
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 01:29:25AM -0500, Matt Stegman wrote:
 
 It suggests that I remove them.  I look around, and there's no other ssh
 package listed.  I don't see ssh2 in the list, nor a new version of ssh.  
 Why does dselect (or rather, apt) think ssh and irc are obsolete?  What's
 going on?

Some of the other people has helped you out, so...  Note that ssh and
ssh2 is not the same package with different versions, even though the
names might indicate it.  The package ssh contains OpenSSH, while
ssh2 contains ssh, the non-free one.

If you use the package from woody, you will see both ssh and ssh2, which
is at the same functionality level.

To update, point your sources.list to woody non-us.
Do apt-get update. Then apt-get install ssh.  It fixes dependencies and
installs the program. Very nice.

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