Re: Upstart inclusion in Debian
On Fri 09 Oct 2015 at 20:15:57 +0530, Himanshu Shekhar wrote: > Hey guys! > Do anybody have any idea about upstart to replace systemV in sid: the next > release. systemd is the standard on Jessie. There is no systemv to replace. The question has little meaning. Do you want to reframe it? > If it is not so, how can one manually have systemd or whatever replaced by > upstart, without trouble. apt-get install upstart.
Re: Upstart inclusion in Debian
On 09/10/15 11:03 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: On Fri, Oct 09, 2015 at 08:15:57PM +0530, Himanshu Shekhar wrote: Hey guys! Do anybody have any idea about upstart to replace systemV in sid: the next release. By default? Probably not going to happen. Upstart lost out to systemd in the tech-ctte vote. If it is not so, how can one manually have systemd or whatever replaced by upstart, without trouble. While upstart lost out to systemd in the vote, it did so by only one vote which implies that upstart is (or was) a well respected init system. You should be able to install upstart (which is one of the providers^Wdependencies of the "init" metapackage) and have it supplant systemd. You should probably be aware, though, that sysv (lowest common denominator) and systemd (new default) will probably have more init scripts than upstart. If you find a package that won't start because it has a systemd service, but neither a sysv script nor an upstart job, then that's probably worthy of a bug report. Regards -- Himanshu Shekhar IIIT-Allahabad IRM2015006 Yes but even Ubuntu is dropping upstart now. SysV init is just not good enough anymore which is why it's being replaced. While some distros will undoubtedly continue with it for a while, its a dead end. I recognize that there are some legitimate theoretical concerns about SystemD but the long and the short of it is that SystemD is here and is the default for most distros. Adapt.
Re: Upstart inclusion in Debian
On Fri, Oct 09, 2015 at 08:15:57PM +0530, Himanshu Shekhar wrote: > Hey guys! > Do anybody have any idea about upstart to replace systemV in sid: the next > release. By default? Probably not going to happen. Upstart lost out to systemd in the tech-ctte vote. > > If it is not so, how can one manually have systemd or whatever replaced by > upstart, without trouble. While upstart lost out to systemd in the vote, it did so by only one vote which implies that upstart is (or was) a well respected init system. You should be able to install upstart (which is one of the providers^Wdependencies of the "init" metapackage) and have it supplant systemd. You should probably be aware, though, that sysv (lowest common denominator) and systemd (new default) will probably have more init scripts than upstart. If you find a package that won't start because it has a systemd service, but neither a sysv script nor an upstart job, then that's probably worthy of a bug report. > > > Regards > -- > Himanshu Shekhar > IIIT-Allahabad > IRM2015006 -- For more information, please reread. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
