Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

[Fred]

On 08/21/2018 01:08 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 08/21/2018 02:35 PM, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 12:29 PM Richard Owlett  
wrote:


I also stated I wished to avoid Amazon and Ebay.
  From when they both first opened I couldn't figure what there role is
in a transaction like this.


I would think that "profiteering-middleman" fits Amazon and Ebay here.
Apparently they don't make your life sufficiently easier to justify
the pound of flesh nearest
your heart (I mean, the profit margin...) as they do for most others.
All the hippies would
be around your age now, right? FYI that wasn't a value judgement


I be of that generation, but not of them 
My problem with their model is I don't know whom I dealing with.
Locally we have brick-n-mortar dens renting space o entrepreneur.
If you see something you pay landlord. WHO is responsible for customer 
satisfaction and/or import licenses etc.


If you wish to use a device in USA, it at minimum must meet UL and FCC 
regs. I was on the supplier end of that chain and doubt things have 
become less onerous ;/ Also who is responsible for meeting import regs 
and fees.


I have additional concerns. But covers High points.


Hi,
You won't have any problem ordering from amazon.co.uk.  I have ordered 
from them many times.  You don't have to worry about UL and FCC regs.  
European safety regs. are likely more stringent than US regs.  Import 
licenses apparently don't apply.

Try it.  You'll like it!
Best regards,
Fred

Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

[Nicholas Geovanis]

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 3:09 PM Richard Owlett  wrote:
>
> I be of that generation, but not of them 

Nonsense. The right-wing result was inherent in hippieness too.
Look at America.

> If you wish to use a device in USA, it at minimum must meet UL and FCC
> regs. I was on the supplier end of that chain and doubt things have
> become less onerous ;/ Also who is responsible for meeting import regs
> and fees.

I worked next door to UL Labs north of Chicago. I'm glad they do what they do.
We have only the insurance companies to protect us (hah) from
defective products.
We won't need regulations when all businessmen are angels :-D

Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

[Richard Owlett]

On 08/21/2018 02:35 PM, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:

On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 12:29 PM Richard Owlett  wrote:


I also stated I wished to avoid Amazon and Ebay.
  From when they both first opened I couldn't figure what there role is
in a transaction like this.


I would think that "profiteering-middleman" fits Amazon and Ebay here.
Apparently they don't make your life sufficiently easier to justify
the pound of flesh nearest
your heart (I mean, the profit margin...) as they do for most others.
All the hippies would
be around your age now, right? FYI that wasn't a value judgement


I be of that generation, but not of them 
My problem with their model is I don't know whom I dealing with.
Locally we have brick-n-mortar dens renting space o entrepreneur.
If you see something you pay landlord. WHO is responsible for customer 
satisfaction and/or import licenses etc.


If you wish to use a device in USA, it at minimum must meet UL and FCC 
regs. I was on the supplier end of that chain and doubt things have 
become less onerous ;/ Also who is responsible for meeting import regs 
and fees.


I have additional concerns. But covers High points.

Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

[Nicholas Geovanis]

On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 12:29 PM Richard Owlett  wrote:
>
> I also stated I wished to avoid Amazon and Ebay.
>  From when they both first opened I couldn't figure what there role is
> in a transaction like this.

I would think that "profiteering-middleman" fits Amazon and Ebay here.
Apparently they don't make your life sufficiently easier to justify
the pound of flesh nearest
your heart (I mean, the profit margin...) as they do for most others.
All the hippies would
be around your age now, right? FYI that wasn't a value judgement

Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

[Eric S Fraga]

On Monday, 20 Aug 2018 at 15:16, Glenn English wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 1:35 PM Eric S Fraga  wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, 16 Aug 2018 at 14:28, Glenn English wrote:
>
>> > It's all over Amazon (search: planet gemini pda computer), but, as
>> > best I can tell, there's no computer.
>>
>> I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "there's no computer."  The
>> Gemini is not vapourware.  It exists.
>
> When I looked the other day, there were lots of books and such, but no
> hardware. Gemini was there, but their computer wasn't.

Fine, if you are referring solely to Amazon.  I just wanted to clarify
in case others were misled into thinking this computer does not exist!

For those not being bothered about buying from outside the US, the site
for purchasing directly from the UK is:

https://store.planetcom.co.uk/

where I purchased mine 2+ months ago now.

-- 
Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50 & org 9.1.13 on Debian buster/sid

Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

[Richard Owlett]

On 08/20/2018 12:01 PM, Anders Andersson wrote:

On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 5:47 PM, Tony van der Hoff  wrote:

On 20/08/18 16:16, Glenn English wrote:

On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 1:35 PM Eric S Fraga  wrote:

On Thursday, 16 Aug 2018 at 14:28, Glenn English wrote:

It's all over Amazon (search: planet gemini pda computer), but, as
best I can tell, there's no computer.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "there's no computer."  The
Gemini is not vapourware.  It exists.

When I looked the other day, there were lots of books and such, but no
hardware. Gemini was there, but their computer wasn't.


Try Here:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gemini-4G-WiFi-Space-Grey/dp/B07DNG5YMG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1534779869=8-1=gemini+pda


OP stated in the initial email and a follow-up to the first person who
answered, that he is looking for a US distributor. That's what people
have been talking about. If you can find it on amazon.com, please
share the link, because I can't find the actual computer.



I also stated I wished to avoid Amazon and Ebay.
From when they both first opened I couldn't figure what there role is 
in a transaction like this.
As to requiring a US distributor, it would essentially guarantee that 
the units have FCC type acceptance. That can be a pain - decades ago 
that was part of my job.
That the hardware is hard to find on Amazon causes me to suspect they 
haven't received that yet.

Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

[Anders Andersson]

On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 5:47 PM, Tony van der Hoff  wrote:
> On 20/08/18 16:16, Glenn English wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 1:35 PM Eric S Fraga  wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 16 Aug 2018 at 14:28, Glenn English wrote:
 It's all over Amazon (search: planet gemini pda computer), but, as
 best I can tell, there's no computer.
>>> I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "there's no computer."  The
>>> Gemini is not vapourware.  It exists.
>> When I looked the other day, there were lots of books and such, but no
>> hardware. Gemini was there, but their computer wasn't.
>>
> Try Here:
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gemini-4G-WiFi-Space-Grey/dp/B07DNG5YMG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1534779869=8-1=gemini+pda

OP stated in the initial email and a follow-up to the first person who
answered, that he is looking for a US distributor. That's what people
have been talking about. If you can find it on amazon.com, please
share the link, because I can't find the actual computer.

Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

[Tony van der Hoff]

On 20/08/18 16:16, Glenn English wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 1:35 PM Eric S Fraga  wrote:
>> On Thursday, 16 Aug 2018 at 14:28, Glenn English wrote:
>>> It's all over Amazon (search: planet gemini pda computer), but, as
>>> best I can tell, there's no computer.
>> I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "there's no computer."  The
>> Gemini is not vapourware.  It exists.
> When I looked the other day, there were lots of books and such, but no
> hardware. Gemini was there, but their computer wasn't.
>
Try Here:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gemini-4G-WiFi-Space-Grey/dp/B07DNG5YMG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1534779869=8-1=gemini+pda


-- 
Tony van der Hoff| mailto:t...@vanderhoff.org
Buckinghamshire, England |

Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

[Glenn English]

On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 1:35 PM Eric S Fraga  wrote:
>
> On Thursday, 16 Aug 2018 at 14:28, Glenn English wrote:
> > It's all over Amazon (search: planet gemini pda computer), but, as
> > best I can tell, there's no computer.
>
> I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "there's no computer."  The
> Gemini is not vapourware.  It exists.

When I looked the other day, there were lots of books and such, but no
hardware. Gemini was there, but their computer wasn't.

-- 
Glenn English

Re: Literal postings, was Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 01:30:42PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> This list has a completely different philosophy, see:
> https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/
> It's unmoderated

A blatantly salacious assertion to entrap rebellious 12 year olds
masquerading as adults [absolutely NO similarity to myself of course]
into boundary testing the CoC-mods limits of this feindishly
deceptive and overloaded yet sultrily beckoning hope‼

Alas buried deep in yonder lists, the ever lurking fear for eternal
torment upon pain of free expression doth the said mods mod, burying
the light of shame and dusty cocwebs unswept.

'Tis a pithy…

;)


> and the postings are not tweaked into some sort of
> conformity. A huge history of the Debian project has built up with
> archives stretching back over two decades.
> 
> Cheers,
> David.
> 

Re: Literal postings, was Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

[David Wright]

On Sun 19 Aug 2018 at 08:30:40 (+0200), Anders Andersson wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 6:42 PM, David Wright  
> wrote:
> >
> > . A lot of OPs provide very little background information. Sometimes
> > this may be because they don't know what *is* relevant, but often a
> > thread turns into an episode of "Twenty Questions" because of what
> > seems like a reluctance to reveal any facts about their system.
> >
> > . Following this, when the OP apparently "disappears" after making
> > their first post, people are left little option but to make guesses
> > about what their problem might be caused by.
> 
> In my opinion, the *proper* course of action is then to ask for more
> information instead of guessing. If OP then does not reply, then
> there's no need to keep going.

Many people make the assumption that if one person has a problem,
others are quite likely to, so the question may still be worth
pursuing. If you don't want to partake in it, that's fine.
(Brian has covered the situation where people think they have
some sort of proprietorial control over the direction threads drift.)

> I believe that my views on this have changed after the Stack Exchange
> network of websites sprung up. It makes such a huge difference in
> clarity when bad questions are forcibly closed until corrected.

Then head over there. I just checked: they have 2,625 questions
awaiting their first answer. But it's a different animal, run by a
company with hundreds of employees and tens of millions of dollars.
I use it all the time via google. Why try to duplicate it here?

This list has a completely different philosophy, see:
https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/
It's unmoderated and the postings are not tweaked into some sort of
conformity. A huge history of the Debian project has built up with
archives stretching back over two decades.

Cheers,
David.

Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

[Eric S Fraga]

On Thursday, 16 Aug 2018 at 14:28, Glenn English wrote:
> It's all over Amazon (search: planet gemini pda computer), but, as
> best I can tell, there's no computer. 

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "there's no computer."  The
Gemini is not vapourware.  It exists.  

I bought mine retail from planetcom.co.uk in June and have been using it
for 2 months.  Installed Debian (stretch) and am loving it.  I don't use
it as a mobile phone but as a small laptop.  It has some rough edges
without doubt but perfectly usable (for my use case); YMMV, of course.

-- 
Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50 & org 9.1.13 on Debian buster/sid

Re: Literal postings, was Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

[Anders Andersson]

On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 6:42 PM, David Wright  wrote:
>
> . A lot of OPs provide very little background information. Sometimes
> this may be because they don't know what *is* relevant, but often a
> thread turns into an episode of "Twenty Questions" because of what
> seems like a reluctance to reveal any facts about their system.
>
> . Following this, when the OP apparently "disappears" after making
> their first post, people are left little option but to make guesses
> about what their problem might be caused by.

In my opinion, the *proper* course of action is then to ask for more
information instead of guessing. If OP then does not reply, then
there's no need to keep going.

I believe that my views on this have changed after the Stack Exchange
network of websites sprung up. It makes such a huge difference in
clarity when bad questions are forcibly closed until corrected.


> . Some OPs provide facts which, when people start investigating, are
> found to be incorrect, so the thread bifurcates into those accepting
> the factoid and others disputing it.

This is of course unfortunate but something even I have to admit that
we have to accept. :)

Re: Literal postings, was Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

[Brian]

On Sat 18 Aug 2018 at 12:31:38 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

> On 08/18/2018 11:42 AM, David Wright wrote:
> > On Sat 18 Aug 2018 at 10:02:39 (+0200), Anders Andersson wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 7:47 PM, Richard Owlett  
> > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > P.S. I wish my initial posts be taken literally. 
> > > 
> > > I wish this for every question on the mailing list but sadly that
> > > rarely happens, leading to a lot of pointless traffic to wade through.
> > > On every question there's always the "helpful" people who just wants
> > > to share their 2 cents worth of opinion and derail the question in the
> > > process.
> > > 
> > > I guess that's partially because a lot of people don't know how to ask
> > > a question[,] so everyone assumes that it is not to be taken literally.
> > > 
> > > Maybe I'm not a hundred years old like you guys, but on the inside I'm
> > > just as grumpy, err, I mean "opinionated"!
> > 
> > . A lot of OPs provide very little background information. Sometimes
> > this may be because they don't know what *is* relevant, but often a
> > thread turns into an episode of "Twenty Questions" because of what
> > seems like a reluctance to reveal any facts about their system.
> > 
> > . Following this, when the OP apparently "disappears" after making
> > their first post, people are left little option but to make guesses
> > about what their problem might be caused by. One cannot but suspect
> > that many OPs are helped by these discussions (the bits where the
> > guess was correct), fix their system and then say nothing or,
> > occasionally, post "Thanks. Period." Whereupon one of the helpers
> > might ask them to be more helpful and reveal which solution fixed
> > which problem so that others might benefit.
> > 
> > . Some OPs provide facts which, when people start investigating, are
> > found to be incorrect, so the thread bifurcates into those accepting
> > the factoid and others disputing it.
> > 
> > . Some OPs post what they want to do without realising their
> > assumptions already made nor the implications of those assumptions
> > which might lead to undesirable consequences they hadn't foreseen.
> > 
> > . Many OPs are not writing in their native language, so it would
> > be unkind to only take their words literally.
> > 
> > All that said, "Careful what you wish for". A stilted overdefined
> > conversation will probably not be as helpful to people. In a
> > troubleshooting environment you want your thinking to be lateral:
> > only the code itself is literal.
> > 
> 
>  In a way I've been on the other side of this topic.
> I spent decades in what might be termed customer support, field service, or
> engineering support. My background with milli-volt low frequency signals got
> me a job in construction inspection where I ended up rejecting large
> stainless steel pipes (welds rusted) and grade beams (out of square).
> 
> I admit I have an atypical world view and wish constraints others don't see
> as relevant. On another list I was asking questions about sources for some
> odd equipment. I explicitly said certain characteristics were explicitly
> unacceptable. I got replies telling me where I could square the unacceptable
> product. 

A user on -user who takes on the task of answering a query or any mails
which follow up cannot dictate the course or form of the responses. It's
par for the course. Sometimes you win; sometimes you don't. But it's a
risk the user takes. He makes the choice to respond and, in doing so,
cannot direct the nature of the answer. The rough is taken with the
smooth. It's part of the fun.

The questioner who posts? Same rules apply. He does not have to respond
because his whims are not obeyed or quality control regulations are not
being followed. Take the rough with the smooth.

That keeps everyone happy and rubbing along.

-- 
Brian.

Re: Literal postings, was Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

[Richard Owlett]

On 08/18/2018 11:42 AM, David Wright wrote:

On Sat 18 Aug 2018 at 10:02:39 (+0200), Anders Andersson wrote:

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 7:47 PM, Richard Owlett  wrote:


P.S. I wish my initial posts be taken literally. 


I wish this for every question on the mailing list but sadly that
rarely happens, leading to a lot of pointless traffic to wade through.
On every question there's always the "helpful" people who just wants
to share their 2 cents worth of opinion and derail the question in the
process.

I guess that's partially because a lot of people don't know how to ask
a question[,] so everyone assumes that it is not to be taken literally.

Maybe I'm not a hundred years old like you guys, but on the inside I'm
just as grumpy, err, I mean "opinionated"!


. A lot of OPs provide very little background information. Sometimes
this may be because they don't know what *is* relevant, but often a
thread turns into an episode of "Twenty Questions" because of what
seems like a reluctance to reveal any facts about their system.

. Following this, when the OP apparently "disappears" after making
their first post, people are left little option but to make guesses
about what their problem might be caused by. One cannot but suspect
that many OPs are helped by these discussions (the bits where the
guess was correct), fix their system and then say nothing or,
occasionally, post "Thanks. Period." Whereupon one of the helpers
might ask them to be more helpful and reveal which solution fixed
which problem so that others might benefit.

. Some OPs provide facts which, when people start investigating, are
found to be incorrect, so the thread bifurcates into those accepting
the factoid and others disputing it.

. Some OPs post what they want to do without realising their
assumptions already made nor the implications of those assumptions
which might lead to undesirable consequences they hadn't foreseen.

. Many OPs are not writing in their native language, so it would
be unkind to only take their words literally.

All that said, "Careful what you wish for". A stilted overdefined
conversation will probably not be as helpful to people. In a
troubleshooting environment you want your thinking to be lateral:
only the code itself is literal.



 In a way I've been on the other side of this topic.
I spent decades in what might be termed customer support, field service, 
or engineering support. My background with milli-volt low frequency 
signals got me a job in construction inspection where I ended up 
rejecting large stainless steel pipes (welds rusted) and grade beams 
(out of square).


I admit I have an atypical world view and wish constraints others don't 
see as relevant. On another list I was asking questions about sources 
for some odd equipment. I explicitly said certain characteristics were 
explicitly unacceptable. I got replies telling me where I could square 
the unacceptable product. 

Literal postings, was Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

[David Wright]

On Sat 18 Aug 2018 at 10:02:39 (+0200), Anders Andersson wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 7:47 PM, Richard Owlett  wrote:
> >
> > P.S. I wish my initial posts be taken literally. 
> 
> I wish this for every question on the mailing list but sadly that
> rarely happens, leading to a lot of pointless traffic to wade through.
> On every question there's always the "helpful" people who just wants
> to share their 2 cents worth of opinion and derail the question in the
> process.
> 
> I guess that's partially because a lot of people don't know how to ask
> a question[,] so everyone assumes that it is not to be taken literally.
> 
> Maybe I'm not a hundred years old like you guys, but on the inside I'm
> just as grumpy, err, I mean "opinionated"!

. A lot of OPs provide very little background information. Sometimes
this may be because they don't know what *is* relevant, but often a
thread turns into an episode of "Twenty Questions" because of what
seems like a reluctance to reveal any facts about their system.

. Following this, when the OP apparently "disappears" after making
their first post, people are left little option but to make guesses
about what their problem might be caused by. One cannot but suspect
that many OPs are helped by these discussions (the bits where the
guess was correct), fix their system and then say nothing or,
occasionally, post "Thanks. Period." Whereupon one of the helpers
might ask them to be more helpful and reveal which solution fixed
which problem so that others might benefit.

. Some OPs provide facts which, when people start investigating, are
found to be incorrect, so the thread bifurcates into those accepting
the factoid and others disputing it.

. Some OPs post what they want to do without realising their
assumptions already made nor the implications of those assumptions
which might lead to undesirable consequences they hadn't foreseen.

. Many OPs are not writing in their native language, so it would
be unkind to only take their words literally.

All that said, "Careful what you wish for". A stilted overdefined
conversation will probably not be as helpful to people. In a
troubleshooting environment you want your thinking to be lateral:
only the code itself is literal.

Cheers,
David.

Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

[Joe]

On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 10:02:39 +0200
Anders Andersson  wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 7:47 PM, Richard Owlett 
> wrote:
> >
> > P.S. I wish my initial posts be taken literally.   
> 
> I wish this for every question on the mailing list but sadly that
> rarely happens, leading to a lot of pointless traffic to wade through.
> On every question there's always the "helpful" people who just wants
> to share their 2 cents worth of opinion and derail the question in the
> process.
> 

Is this a paid-for consultancy service?

> I guess that's partially because a lot of people don't know how to ask
> a question so everyone assumes that it is not to be taken literally.
> 

And we all do things differently. Sometimes the question indicates that
someone is taking an unnecessarily difficult path. Sometimes nobody
knows the answer, and rather than just ignore the questioner, we chip
in experiences as near to the subject as possible. Our friend Richard
spends his life doing things that nobody else has done, and then gets
ratty because nobody can answer his questions.

> Maybe I'm not a hundred years old like you guys, but on the inside I'm
> just as grumpy, err, I mean "opinionated"!
> 

It is perfectly possible to be grumpy before you have even learned to
speak.

-- 
Joe

Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

[Anders Andersson]

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 7:47 PM, Richard Owlett  wrote:
>
> P.S. I wish my initial posts be taken literally. 

I wish this for every question on the mailing list but sadly that
rarely happens, leading to a lot of pointless traffic to wade through.
On every question there's always the "helpful" people who just wants
to share their 2 cents worth of opinion and derail the question in the
process.

I guess that's partially because a lot of people don't know how to ask
a question so everyone assumes that it is not to be taken literally.

Maybe I'm not a hundred years old like you guys, but on the inside I'm
just as grumpy, err, I mean "opinionated"!

Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 16 August 2018 13:47:52 Richard Owlett wrote:

> On 08/16/2018 10:03 AM, Dominic Knight wrote:
> > On Thu, 2018-08-16 at 07:41 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> >> I've been looking for one for about a year.
> >> I've just discovered that the Gemini PDA [
> >> https://www.planetcom.co.uk/]
> >> has come to market. A key feature is "WiFi only models are
> >> available".
> >>
> >> The site doesn't say anything about a US distributor. Is there one?
> >>
> >> Does anyone know of a similar product with a US distributor?
> >>
> >> TIA
> >
> > Changing the question to fit my answer ;)
> > Any reason not to buy direct from the UK?
>
> YES! *ROFL* 
> There are several ;}
>
> I don't want to be bothered with any import regulations or fees.
> I WILL NOT consider any international financial transaction,
> I am not sure if the EU has any better consumer protection than US,
> but I'm familiar with doing transactions on this side of The Pond.
> I'm a septuagenarian much more familiar with brick-n-mortar.
> P.S. that eliminates Amazon & Ebay
> I want to stay away from the POTUS debacle "du jour". (POTUS==PITA)?
>
> Who? ME? OPINIONATED?
Get in line Richard. ;0)

> P.S. I wish my initial posts be taken literally. 



-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

[Richard Owlett]

On 08/16/2018 10:03 AM, Dominic Knight wrote:

On Thu, 2018-08-16 at 07:41 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

I've been looking for one for about a year.
I've just discovered that the Gemini PDA [
https://www.planetcom.co.uk/]
has come to market. A key feature is "WiFi only models are
available".

The site doesn't say anything about a US distributor. Is there one?

Does anyone know of a similar product with a US distributor?

TIA



Changing the question to fit my answer ;)
Any reason not to buy direct from the UK?



YES! *ROFL* 
There are several ;}

I don't want to be bothered with any import regulations or fees.
I WILL NOT consider any international financial transaction,
I am not sure if the EU has any better consumer protection than US,
   but I'm familiar with doing transactions on this side of The Pond.
I'm a septuagenarian much more familiar with brick-n-mortar.
   P.S. that eliminates Amazon & Ebay
I want to stay away from the POTUS debacle "du jour". (POTUS==PITA)?

Who? ME? OPINIONATED?

P.S. I wish my initial posts be taken literally. 

Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

[Dominic Knight]

On Thu, 2018-08-16 at 07:41 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I've been looking for one for about a year.
> I've just discovered that the Gemini PDA [
> https://www.planetcom.co.uk/] 
> has come to market. A key feature is "WiFi only models are
> available".
> 
> The site doesn't say anything about a US distributor. Is there one?
> 
> Does anyone know of a similar product with a US distributor?
> 
> TIA
> 
> 
Changing the question to fit my answer ;)
Any reason not to buy direct from the UK?

Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 02:26:13PM +, Curt wrote:
> On 2018-08-16, Richard Owlett  wrote:
> > I've been looking for one for about a year.
> > I've just discovered that the Gemini PDA [https://www.planetcom.co.uk/] 
> > has come to market. A key feature is "WiFi only models are available".
> >
> > The site doesn't say anything about a US distributor. Is there one?
> 
> They say they deliver to the US (with a US Keyboard with US Power Plug
> option), but knowing you you'll probably tell me very severely my X
> answer doesn't fit your Y question (or vice versa, or something).

Did you choose your name "Curt"?  It's very appropriate.  Come to
think of it, I should probably change my name to Must Lose The OCD or
something similar ;)


> https://store.planetcom.co.uk/pages/delivery
> 
> The customs implications of the matter, if any, are beyond the scope of
> this article.
> 
> > Does anyone know of a similar product with a US distributor?
> >
> > TIA

Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

[Richard Owlett]

On 08/16/2018 09:26 AM, Curt wrote:

On 2018-08-16, Richard Owlett  wrote:

I've been looking for one for about a year.
I've just discovered that the Gemini PDA [https://www.planetcom.co.uk/]
has come to market. A key feature is "WiFi only models are available".

The site doesn't say anything about a US distributor. Is there one?


They say they deliver to the US (with a US Keyboard with US Power Plug
option), but knowing you you'll probably tell me very severely my X
answer doesn't fit your Y question (or vice versa, or something).

https://store.planetcom.co.uk/pages/delivery

The customs implications of the matter, if any, are beyond the scope of
this article.


ROFL - That is one of the reasons I stated "...  US distributor. Is 
there one?"





Does anyone know of a similar product with a US distributor?

TIA

Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

[Glenn English]

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 12:41 PM, Richard Owlett  wrote:

> I've been looking for one for about a year.
> I've just discovered that the Gemini PDA [https://www.planetcom.co.uk/] has
> come to market. A key feature is "WiFi only models are available".
>
> The site doesn't say anything about a US distributor. Is there one?

It's all over Amazon (search: planet gemini pda computer), but, as
best I can tell, there's no computer. They've been pretty receptive to
email, in my experience. Or you could just wait a bit longer and watch
their website...

-- 
Glenn English

Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

[Curt]

On 2018-08-16, Richard Owlett  wrote:
> I've been looking for one for about a year.
> I've just discovered that the Gemini PDA [https://www.planetcom.co.uk/] 
> has come to market. A key feature is "WiFi only models are available".
>
> The site doesn't say anything about a US distributor. Is there one?

They say they deliver to the US (with a US Keyboard with US Power Plug
option), but knowing you you'll probably tell me very severely my X
answer doesn't fit your Y question (or vice versa, or something).

https://store.planetcom.co.uk/pages/delivery

The customs implications of the matter, if any, are beyond the scope of
this article.

> Does anyone know of a similar product with a US distributor?
>
> TIA
>
>
>


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